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| rred_@yahoo.com 2005-07-19, 11:25 pm |
| I've got a Murray lawn tractor with a Briggs and Stratton engine in it.
Being a dumbass, I managed to run it out of oil (I think what happened
was I filled it with high viscosity oil by accident and that burned up
much faster than the other stuff in this hot weather).
Anyway the engine seized and I managed to get it loosened by turning
the blades so that the flywheel now spins freely. However the dang
thing still won't start up. First, it started to spin on the start and
hit something (clang) and stopped. I fooled around with it a little
and now the flywheel spins with nothing blocking it. Only problem is
it still isn't catching. Should I try some starter fluid in the air
filter?
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| JohnR66 2005-07-19, 11:25 pm |
| <rred_@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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quote:
> I've got a Murray lawn tractor with a Briggs and Stratton engine in it.
> Being a dumbass, I managed to run it out of oil (I think what happened
> was I filled it with high viscosity oil by accident and that burned up
> much faster than the other stuff in this hot weather).
>
> Anyway the engine seized and I managed to get it loosened by turning
> the blades so that the flywheel now spins freely. However the dang
> thing still won't start up. First, it started to spin on the start and
> hit something (clang) and stopped. I fooled around with it a little
> and now the flywheel spins with nothing blocking it. Only problem is
> it still isn't catching. Should I try some starter fluid in the air
> filter?
>
Okay, I'll bite...
Don't try the starter fluid. Try a new engine.
John
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| Andy & Carol 2005-07-19, 11:25 pm |
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You might have sheared the soft wooddruff key on the crankshaft under the
flywheel.
That is supposed to happen if you hit sometime with the blade.....so you
don't snap the
the crank. If that is the problem,replacxe the key with the same type! If
the key is
seared, it throws the timing off,that is why it won't start.
<rred_@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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quote:
> I've got a Murray lawn tractor with a Briggs and Stratton engine in it.
> Being a dumbass, I managed to run it out of oil (I think what happened
> was I filled it with high viscosity oil by accident and that burned up
> much faster than the other stuff in this hot weather).
>
> Anyway the engine seized and I managed to get it loosened by turning
> the blades so that the flywheel now spins freely. However the dang
> thing still won't start up. First, it started to spin on the start and
> hit something (clang) and stopped. I fooled around with it a little
> and now the flywheel spins with nothing blocking it. Only problem is
> it still isn't catching. Should I try some starter fluid in the air
> filter?
>
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| Duane Bozarth 2005-07-19, 11:25 pm |
| rred_@yahoo.com wrote:
quote:
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> I've got a Murray lawn tractor with a Briggs and Stratton engine in it.
> Being a dumbass, I managed to run it out of oil (I think what happened
> was I filled it with high viscosity oil by accident and that burned up
> much faster than the other stuff in this hot weather).
That would be symptomatic of lower viscosity, not higher, but anyway...
quote:
> Anyway the engine seized ... it started to spin on the start and
> hit something (clang) and stopped. I fooled around with it a little
> and now the flywheel spins with nothing blocking it. Only problem is
> it still isn't catching. Should I try some starter fluid in the air
> filter?
That's a pretty big "only"... 
The "clang" was probably the connecting rod end being broken
off...you've hosed that baby, almost certainly...
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| ~^Johnny^~ 2005-07-24, 9:06 pm |
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>If
>the key is
>seared,
Must've really got hot, to sear the key!
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wide-open at throttle dot info
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| Stormin Mormon 2005-07-24, 9:06 pm |
| I had a chance to work on a siezed up engine, last year. Please share my
experience.
Remove the spark plug, and squirt a bunch (couple squirts) of two cycle "gas
mix" oil into the cylinder. Then leave the spark plug out, and spin the
starter for a second or two. This should re-oil the walls of the cylinder.
I didn't do this. The motor (10 HP Tecumseh on a generator) started right u
p, then it threw a piston rod. I turned a $500 generator into a $75 ebay
item in less than a second. I also said some bad words.
--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
www.mormons.com
<rred_@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1121809095.361633.36440@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
I've got a Murray lawn tractor with a Briggs and Stratton engine in it.
Being a dumbass, I managed to run it out of oil (I think what happened
was I filled it with high viscosity oil by accident and that burned up
much faster than the other stuff in this hot weather).
Anyway the engine seized and I managed to get it loosened by turning
the blades so that the flywheel now spins freely. However the dang
thing still won't start up. First, it started to spin on the start and
hit something (clang) and stopped. I fooled around with it a little
and now the flywheel spins with nothing blocking it. Only problem is
it still isn't catching. Should I try some starter fluid in the air
filter?
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| Duane Bozarth 2005-07-24, 9:07 pm |
| Stormin Mormon wrote:
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> I had a chance to work on a siezed up engine, last year. Please share my
> experience.
>
> Remove the spark plug, and squirt a bunch (couple squirts) of two cycle "gas
> mix" oil into the cylinder. Then leave the spark plug out, and spin the
> starter for a second or two. This should re-oil the walls of the cylinder.
>
> I didn't do this. The motor (10 HP Tecumseh on a generator) started right u
> p, then it threw a piston rod. I turned a $500 generator into a $75 ebay
> item in less than a second. I also said some bad words.
It probably wouldn't have mattered a whit if you had...the seizure more
than likely overstressed the connecting rod anyway and it was
inevitable.
As noted before, I'm wagering it was the end falling off after the
"clang" that freed it up for OP...
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| Stormin Mormon 2005-07-24, 9:07 pm |
| Ah, I do feel better. I'd spent most of a year berating myself for not
oiling the cylinder. But, if there was a different problem, maybe I couldn't
have saved it, in any case. Thank you.
--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
www.mormons.com
"Duane Bozarth" <dpbozarth@swko.dot.net> wrote in message
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Stormin Mormon wrote:
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> I had a chance to work on a siezed up engine, last year. Please share my
> experience.
It probably wouldn't have mattered a whit if you had...the seizure more
than likely overstressed the connecting rod anyway and it was
inevitable.
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