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| Don Lee 2006-01-27, 9:21 pm |
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I have owned several non-stick Teflon frying pans and had always taken care
not to scratch them or use the dishwasher on them. However, they all
eventually stick after a year or so. The pans are otherwise in good shape.
Does anyone know of anyway to revitalize the non-stick property of the
Teflon coating.
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| robson@nf.sympatico.ca 2006-01-27, 10:21 pm |
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Don Lee wrote:
> I have owned several non-stick Teflon frying pans and had always taken care
> not to scratch them or use the dishwasher on them. However, they all
> eventually stick after a year or so. The pans are otherwise in good shape.
> Does anyone know of anyway to revitalize the non-stick property of the
> Teflon coating.
> --
> Later 'gator
>
> NOSPAMddlee10@hotmail.com
> remove NOSPAM for email
The chemical Zonyl can rub off the liner and get into food. it enters
your blood stream. It's in all of us by now and stays in you for up to
4 years. It will soon be labled as a heath risk by the fda. stick with
the cast iron skillets.
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| robson@nf.sympatico.ca 2006-01-27, 10:21 pm |
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Don Lee wrote:
> I have owned several non-stick Teflon frying pans and had always taken care
> not to scratch them or use the dishwasher on them. However, they all
> eventually stick after a year or so. The pans are otherwise in good shape.
> Does anyone know of anyway to revitalize the non-stick property of the
> Teflon coating.
> --
> Later 'gator
>
> NOSPAMddlee10@hotmail.com
> remove NOSPAM for email
The chemical Zonyl can rub off the liner and get into food. it enters
your blood stream. It's in all of us by now and stays in you for up to
4 years. It will soon be labled as a heath risk by the fda. stick with
the cast iron skillets.
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| Joseph Meehan 2006-01-27, 10:21 pm |
| Don Lee wrote:
> I have owned several non-stick Teflon frying pans and had always
> taken care not to scratch them or use the dishwasher on them.
> However, they all eventually stick after a year or so. The pans are
> otherwise in good shape. Does anyone know of anyway to revitalize the
> non-stick property of the Teflon coating.
Depending on how much and how you are using them, they may just need a
good cleaning. If the surface is worn, which happens with Teflon, then
there is nothing you can do to make it good.
--
Joseph Meehan
Dia duit
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| Tony Hwang 2006-01-27, 10:21 pm |
| Joseph Meehan wrote:
> Don Lee wrote:
>
>
>
> Depending on how much and how you are using them, they may just need a
> good cleaning. If the surface is worn, which happens with Teflon, then
> there is nothing you can do to make it good.
>
Hi,
Good name brand seems to last longer. Anyhow there is health concern
on Teflon.
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| hallerb@aol.com 2006-01-27, 10:21 pm |
| yeah teflon is about to be called a safety hazard by the FDA, old pans
may have to go to hazardous waste dumps..........
dont laugh its happened to other products before like benzene and
asbestos.
both USED to be common household products
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| Stop using them. The Teflon contains a perfluorinated acid known as PFOA
which causes cancer. This week, the EPA called for a voluntary halt to it's
use. In 4 years, Teflon will be made using another chemical.
http://www.mcall.com/news/nationwor...0,2391783.story
"Don Lee" <NOSPAMddlee10@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> I have owned several non-stick Teflon frying pans and had always taken
care
> not to scratch them or use the dishwasher on them. However, they all
> eventually stick after a year or so. The pans are otherwise in good
shape.
> Does anyone know of anyway to revitalize the non-stick property of the
> Teflon coating.
> --
> Later 'gator
>
> NOSPAMddlee10@hotmail.com
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"Don Lee" <NOSPAMddlee10@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I have owned several non-stick Teflon frying pans and had always taken
> care
> not to scratch them or use the dishwasher on them. However, they all
> eventually stick after a year or so. The pans are otherwise in good
> shape.
> Does anyone know of anyway to revitalize the non-stick property of the
> Teflon coating.
> --
> Later 'gator
The only thing you need teflon for maybe is frying eggs. A cheap pan will
do and you can dispose of it every few years. Even if you fry with
nonstick, a little butter or oil will still help. Otherwise, just get
dtainless steel. Lasts "forever" and is non-reactive with foods. Clean it
with Bon Ami or Barkeepers Friend.
>
> NOSPAMddlee10@hotmail.com
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| Don Lee 2006-01-28, 1:21 am |
| I think you are mistaking PFOA and the end product. PFOA was used in making
the Teflon. Teflon itself is not toxic. PFOA in high dosage is bad in
animal testing. EPA is asking companies to not use PFOA because it might be
released into the environment.
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<robson@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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>
> Don Lee wrote:
care[color=darkred]
shape.[color=darkred]
>
> The chemical Zonyl can rub off the liner and get into food. it enters
> your blood stream. It's in all of us by now and stays in you for up to
> 4 years. It will soon be labled as a heath risk by the fda. stick with
> the cast iron skillets.
>
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| Toller 2006-01-28, 1:21 am |
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"Bob" <bobb25@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Stop using them. The Teflon contains a perfluorinated acid known as PFOA
> which causes cancer. This week, the EPA called for a voluntary halt to
> it's
> use. In 4 years, Teflon will be made using another chemical.
> http://www.mcall.com/news/nationwor...0,2391783.story
>
DIA, don't you even read your links?!
There is no PFOA in the product, it is pollutant associated with the
manufacture.
You must have used aluminum frying pans too often.
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| Ranieri 2006-01-28, 1:21 am |
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"Don Lee" <NOSPAMddlee10@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ywzCf.458598$ki.282216@pd7tw2no...
>
> I have owned several non-stick Teflon frying pans and had always taken
> care
> not to scratch them or use the dishwasher on them. However, they all
> eventually stick after a year or so. The pans are otherwise in good
> shape.
> Does anyone know of anyway to revitalize the non-stick property of the
> Teflon coating.
> --
Teflon has nothing on a well seasoned cast iron skillet.
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| Ether Jones 2006-01-28, 1:21 am |
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<<Teflon itself is not toxic>>
.... unless it gets too hot.
Don't ever let a Teflon frying pan overheat. Releases fumes that can
make you sick. Google the phrase "teflon flu". This is for real.
Also, read the warning labels on cans of spray lubricant that contain
Teflon. They tell you to wash your hands before smoking. Same reason.
EJ
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| PaPaPeng 2006-01-28, 7:21 am |
| On 27 Jan 2006 20:46:57 -0800, "Ether Jones" <EtherJones@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>Don't ever let a Teflon frying pan overheat. Releases fumes that can
>make you sick. Google the phrase "teflon flu". This is for real.
>
>Also, read the warning labels on cans of spray lubricant that contain
>Teflon. They tell you to wash your hands before smoking. Same reason.
>
Good advice. Do not use high heat on the pan. There was a NG thread
discussion that vapors from over heated teflon coated pans killed
their caged pet birds.
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| Joseph Meehan 2006-01-28, 9:21 am |
| Tony Hwang wrote:
> Joseph Meehan wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Good name brand seems to last longer. Anyhow there is health concern
> on Teflon.
True and true.
--
Joseph Meehan
Dia duit
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| Phisherman 2006-01-28, 9:21 am |
| On 27 Jan 2006 20:46:57 -0800, "Ether Jones" <EtherJones@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>
><<Teflon itself is not toxic>>
>
>... unless it gets too hot.
>
>Don't ever let a Teflon frying pan overheat. Releases fumes that can
>make you sick. Google the phrase "teflon flu". This is for real.
>
>Also, read the warning labels on cans of spray lubricant that contain
>Teflon. They tell you to wash your hands before smoking. Same reason.
>
>EJ
To add to this. Anyone who has a pet bird or keeps birds should not
have Teflon pans at all. Burning Teflon is very toxic to birds.
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| hallerb@aol.com 2006-01-28, 10:21 am |
| I wonder at what temperature teflon becomes hazardous?
I make my living fixing laminators that use a teflon coated heat shoe,
they run below 350 degrees most commonly under 300. if they are found
to be dangerous its time for a new job.
I used to fix machines that used methyl alcohol, that job ended when
the healt risks of methyl vapors was publicized. oddly enough its still
used today in windshield washer fluid.
but those oither machines all went to the landfill........
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| Edwin Pawlowski 2006-01-28, 11:21 am |
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<hallerb@aol.com> wrote in message
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>I wonder at what temperature teflon becomes hazardous?
>
> I make my living fixing laminators that use a teflon coated heat shoe,
> they run below 350 degrees most commonly under 300. if they are found
> to be dangerous its time for a new job.
It is in excess of 500 degrees. You can get some specifics on the Dupont web
page about Teflon and birds. Normal cooking will not cause a problem, it is
often a pan left unattended and over heated. Even normal pans can cause ill
effects on birds as they have rather delicate respiratory systems.
http://www2.dupont.com/PFOA/en_US/p...ird_safety.html
Never preheat your cookware on high heat.
If accidentally overheated, non-stick cookware can emit fumes that may be
harmful to birds, as can any type of cookware preheated with cooking oil,
fats, margarine and butter. This is why you should always move your birds
out of the kitchen before cooking
You may also want to check out
http://www.teflon.com/NASApp/Teflon...tyconcerns.html
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| tinacci336@sbcglobal.net 2006-01-28, 11:21 am |
|
Ranieri wrote:
> "Don Lee" <NOSPAMddlee10@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ywzCf.458598$ki.282216@pd7tw2no...
>
> Teflon has nothing on a well seasoned cast iron skillet.
Well said! Good quality cast iron ware can not be beat for cooking. It
has qualities in cooking that no other type of kitchen ware can come
close to. It can also last for generations.
Jack
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| George 2006-01-28, 1:21 pm |
| hallerb@aol.com wrote:
> yeah teflon is about to be called a safety hazard by the FDA, old pans
> may have to go to hazardous waste dumps..........
>
Actually no, there is a specific chemical that is used during the
manufacturing process that will likely be banned.
> dont laugh its happened to other products before like benzene and
> asbestos.
>
> both USED to be common household products
>
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| Jim Yanik 2006-01-28, 1:21 pm |
| "Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in
news:%nLCf.4182$ur7.3017@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com:
>
><hallerb@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1138456880.345067.27920@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
> It is in excess of 500 degrees. You can get some specifics on the
> Dupont web page about Teflon and birds. Normal cooking will not cause
> a problem, it is often a pan left unattended and over heated. Even
> normal pans can cause ill effects on birds as they have rather
> delicate respiratory systems.
>
> http://www2.dupont.com/PFOA/en_US/p..._bird_safety.ht
> ml Never preheat your cookware on high heat.
>
> If accidentally overheated, non-stick cookware can emit fumes that may
> be harmful to birds, as can any type of cookware preheated with
> cooking oil, fats, margarine and butter. This is why you should always
> move your birds out of the kitchen before cooking
>
>
> You may also want to check out
> http://www.teflon.com/NASApp/Teflon...HC_gx_session_i
> d_=GXLiteSessionID-2890589694825990208&pageId=/consumer/na/eng/news/new
> s_detail.safetyconcerns.html
>
>
>
I suspect overheating many types of PLASTIC will generate unhealthy fumes.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
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| Edwin Pawlowski 2006-01-28, 4:21 pm |
|
"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
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> I suspect overheating many types of PLASTIC will generate unhealthy fumes.
>
> --
True. Many can be eaten and would just pass through your body in that form,
but when burned, can give severe side effects.
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| yellowbirddog@hotmail.com 2006-01-28, 5:21 pm |
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hallerb@aol.com wrote:
> I wonder at what temperature teflon becomes hazardous?
>
> I make my living fixing laminators that use a teflon coated heat shoe,
> they run below 350 degrees most commonly under 300. if they are found
> to be dangerous its time for a new job.
>
> I used to fix machines that used methyl alcohol, that job ended when
> the healt risks of methyl vapors was publicized. oddly enough its still
> used today in windshield washer fluid.
>
> but those oither machines all went to the landfill........
I can't verify this information, but here is a chart that describes
what happens to Teflon at various temperatures, FWIW:
http://www.ewg.org/reports/toxicteflon/tempgraphic.php
Keep in mind that when cooking, the "average temperature" of the pan is
not the highest temperature that is found at places in the pan where
food is absent.
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| George E. Cawthon 2006-01-28, 6:21 pm |
| hallerb@aol.com wrote:
> yeah teflon is about to be called a safety hazard by the FDA, old pans
> may have to go to hazardous waste dumps..........
>
> dont laugh its happened to other products before like benzene and
> asbestos.
>
> both USED to be common household products
>
Humbug, the problem is intermediate chemicals in
the production of Teflon. Once it is on the pan,
there are no problems.
Yeah benzene is really good for you. I suggest
you wash your hands in some benzene once each day
and see how long your liver lasts. You can still
buy benzene, just not as a consumer product
because there are so many stupid people. It's in
the same class as not giving children aspirin when
they have high fevers.
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| Dorot29701@aol.com 2006-01-28, 6:21 pm |
| I cook with Teflon coated pans a lot and the expensive pans seem to end
up doing the same as inexpensive pans. Only thing I have found, is to
spray them with (Pam, store brand spray) what ever spray you
like....wipe them with paper towels and put them away. Then when you
want to use them again, take them out, wipe them off again and respray
before using. Use moderate heat.
It's not perfect, but if you are careful the food won't stick to them
too badly. Clean with sponge's that have the rough side to them and
soapy water....and dry them and spray before putting away.
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| Joseph Meehan 2006-01-28, 9:21 pm |
| Dorot29701@aol.com wrote:
>I cook with Teflon coated pans a lot and the expensive pans seem to end
> up doing the same as inexpensive pans. Only thing I have found, is to
> spray them with (Pam, store brand spray) what ever spray you
> like....wipe them with paper towels and put them away. Then when you
> want to use them again, take them out, wipe them off again and respray
> before using. Use moderate heat.
Or just use a good non-Teflon pan and Pam. :-)
>
> It's not perfect, but if you are careful the food won't stick to them
> too badly. Clean with sponge's that have the rough side to them and
> soapy water....and dry them and spray before putting away.
--
Joseph Meehan
Dia duit
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| Dan_Musicant 2006-01-28, 11:21 pm |
| On 27 Jan 2006 17:23:47 -0800, robson@nf.sympatico.ca wrote:
:
:Don Lee wrote:
:> I have owned several non-stick Teflon frying pans and had always taken care
:> not to scratch them or use the dishwasher on them. However, they all
:> eventually stick after a year or so. The pans are otherwise in good shape.
:> Does anyone know of anyway to revitalize the non-stick property of the
:> Teflon coating.
:> --
:> Later 'gator
:>
:> NOSPAMddlee10@hotmail.com
:> remove NOSPAM for email
:
:The chemical Zonyl can rub off the liner and get into food. it enters
:your blood stream. It's in all of us by now and stays in you for up to
:4 years. It will soon be labled as a heath risk by the fda. stick with
:the cast iron skillets.
I saw part of a TV story the other night on TV national news (ABC?) on
teflon and something that stays in your body indefinitely, maybe it was
the Zonyl noted above. Fact is I haven't bought a teflon pan for about 2
decades. I don't know the ins and outs but do cook in the oven on teflon
or similar and heat up tortillas on a teflon pan. For frying, I use cast
iron. The best things about cast iron are it's intrinsic non-sticking
properties (although I often use a little olive oil or even non-stick
spray for eggs, etc.), and it's heat inertia. By that I mean that a
dense layer of cast iron holds a lot of heat and so will not cool down
very quickly when you add food, and therefore you don't have to heat it
so very continuously to achieve an even cooking surface. The downside is
the heaviness, but I don't mind that. Also, they last and last and you
just don't have to give a hoot how they look.
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| stevie 2006-01-29, 1:21 pm |
| what would you recommend for a smooth-top range? wouldn't cast iron scratch
it??
"Ranieri" <nah> wrote in message news:YbudnbGt9PoUbEfeRVn-sw@comcast.com...
"Don Lee" <NOSPAMddlee10@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> I have owned several non-stick Teflon frying pans and had always taken
> care
> not to scratch them or use the dishwasher on them. However, they all
> eventually stick after a year or so. The pans are otherwise in good
> shape.
> Does anyone know of anyway to revitalize the non-stick property of the
> Teflon coating.
> --
Teflon has nothing on a well seasoned cast iron skillet.
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| WConner 2006-01-29, 1:21 pm |
| "> Does anyone know of anyway to revitalize the non-stick property of the
> Teflon coating.
From what I have been seeing and reading about Teflon, I'd suggest you
consider not using them, especially if the coating is damaged, at least
until more is known about the potential danger from Teflon coating.
Walt Conner
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| Joseph Meehan 2006-01-29, 1:21 pm |
| Don Lee wrote:
> I have owned several non-stick Teflon frying pans and had always
> taken care not to scratch them or use the dishwasher on them.
> However, they all eventually stick after a year or so. The pans are
> otherwise in good shape. Does anyone know of anyway to revitalize the
> non-stick property of the Teflon coating.
On the morning news this AM the US government is recommending avoiding
Teflon pans as well as other exposure sources of the materials. They are
not saying there is a direct threat, but they are asking for a serious
decrease in the use of the material from which Teflon is made by the
manufacturers.
--
Joseph Meehan
Dia duit
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| Charles Spitzer 2006-01-30, 7:21 pm |
| hard anodized pans
"stevie" <sf@dum.org> wrote in message news:656Df.440$m83.186@fe03.lga...
> what would you recommend for a smooth-top range? wouldn't cast iron
> scratch
> it??
> "Ranieri" <nah> wrote in message
> news:YbudnbGt9PoUbEfeRVn-sw@comcast.com...
>
> "Don Lee" <NOSPAMddlee10@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ywzCf.458598$ki.282216@pd7tw2no...
>
> Teflon has nothing on a well seasoned cast iron skillet.
>
>
>
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| Larry Bud 2006-01-30, 8:21 pm |
|
Ether Jones wrote:
> <<Teflon itself is not toxic>>
>
> ... unless it gets too hot.
>
> Don't ever let a Teflon frying pan overheat. Releases fumes that can
> make you sick. Google the phrase "teflon flu". This is for real.
>
> Also, read the warning labels on cans of spray lubricant that contain
> Teflon. They tell you to wash your hands before smoking. Same reason.
Ridiculous. Handle any flammable material and they will state you
should wash your hands before smoking. A label like this is akin to
warnings of not using a hair dryer in the bath tub.
Teflon is the latest Alar and breast implant scare. Based on junk
science, which will destroy more jobs in this country, all in the name
of class action lawsuits.
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| dnoyeB 2006-01-30, 11:21 pm |
| Don Lee wrote:
> I have owned several non-stick Teflon frying pans and had always taken care
> not to scratch them or use the dishwasher on them. However, they all
> eventually stick after a year or so. The pans are otherwise in good shape.
> Does anyone know of anyway to revitalize the non-stick property of the
> Teflon coating.
My position is this. Fuck teflon. I don't need it one way or another.
Give me something without any fancy chemicals no matter how many
scientists say its ok. Who can you trust really?
Ill take cast iron. It can add trace amounts of iron to your food, but
thats actually a good thing. Also it can stop a bullet and if required,
take an intruder out in one swing. Try that with Teflon!
Teflon is nice on funky surfaces like grills and waffle irons. But its
just not needed.
--
Thank you,
"Then said I, Wisdom [is] better than strength: nevertheless the poor
man's wisdom [is] despised, and his words are not heard." Ecclesiastes 9:16
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| Don Lee 2006-01-31, 7:21 pm |
| Cast iron may not be as healthy as other people think either. The reason
for not sticking with cast iron is the carbon build-up (beside the addition
of oil). One would assume it is healthy, but if one is concerned with
safety in using Teflon, black carbon build-up in cast iron is probably more
a concern. No data on both.
--
Later 'gator
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"dnoyeB" <Fake@ThisOneIsFake.com> wrote in message
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> Don Lee wrote:
care[color=darkred]
shape.[color=darkred]
>
> My position is this. Fuck teflon. I don't need it one way or another.
> Give me something without any fancy chemicals no matter how many
> scientists say its ok. Who can you trust really?
>
> Ill take cast iron. It can add trace amounts of iron to your food, but
> thats actually a good thing. Also it can stop a bullet and if required,
> take an intruder out in one swing. Try that with Teflon!
>
> Teflon is nice on funky surfaces like grills and waffle irons. But its
> just not needed.
>
>
> --
> Thank you,
>
>
>
> "Then said I, Wisdom [is] better than strength: nevertheless the poor
> man's wisdom [is] despised, and his words are not heard." Ecclesiastes
9:16
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| Edwin Pawlowski 2006-01-31, 9:21 pm |
|
"Don Lee" <NOSPAMddlee10@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:U5SDf.293340$tl.245842@pd7tw3no...
> One would assume it is healthy, but if one is concerned with
> safety in using Teflon, black carbon build-up in cast iron is probably
> more
> a concern. No data on both.
I don't think it is carbon buildup but rather the oils being polymerized.
People have been using it for over a hundred years with no know problme
aside from an injured toe if you drop it on your foot.
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