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advice needed to fixing this ceiling
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| Professor 2006-10-27, 1:25 pm |
| Here are some images so you can see what I'm talking about
http://mysite.verizon.net/iunknown/Ceiling/index.htm
This is an old house and I'm not even sure how they made the ceiling because
I don't see any screws or nails holding it up. It looks like some plaster
was applied to the lattice and then sheetrock was stuck to it but it's
probably screwed in and I'm not seeing the screws.
I'm guessing to fix this I would cut out a square that encompasses the
entire hole then screw in large piece of sheet rock and use mud to cover and
smooth it out and sand it.
does that sound right ? Any recommendations on materials needed?
Thanks alot !!!
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| Grandpa 2006-10-27, 1:25 pm |
| Professor wrote:
> Here are some images so you can see what I'm talking about
>
> http://mysite.verizon.net/iunknown/Ceiling/index.htm
>
> This is an old house and I'm not even sure how they made the ceiling because
> I don't see any screws or nails holding it up. It looks like some plaster
> was applied to the lattice and then sheetrock was stuck to it but it's
> probably screwed in and I'm not seeing the screws.
>
> I'm guessing to fix this I would cut out a square that encompasses the
> entire hole then screw in large piece of sheet rock and use mud to cover and
> smooth it out and sand it.
>
> does that sound right ? Any recommendations on materials needed?
>
> Thanks alot !!!
Wow, I've just helped my son fix something just like that. Its a double
layered plaster ceiling, there is no drywall. If the wood is sound, and
it looks it, then your best bet is to remove all the ceiling plaster to
the walls. Get some 3/8 thick drywall and screw it up to the slats.
Tape, mud and sand then texture it if you wish or just prime and paint
it with a good ceiling paint. I wouldn't even try to replaster that.
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Grandpa
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| Professor 2006-10-27, 5:25 pm |
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"Grandpa" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message news:O6s0h.26$Wy6.11@trnddc01...
> Professor wrote:
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> Wow, I've just helped my son fix something just like that. Its a double
> layered plaster ceiling, there is no drywall. If the wood is sound, and
> it looks it, then your best bet is to remove all the ceiling plaster to
> the walls. Get some 3/8 thick drywall and screw it up to the slats.
> Tape, mud and sand then texture it if you wish or just prime and paint
> it with a good ceiling paint. I wouldn't even try to replaster that.
>
> --
> Grandpa
Thanks for the advice Grandpa !!!
That's sort of what I was thinking of doing but just only over that area.
The long term plan it to rip it down and make cathedral ceilings but that's
a couple years out.
I appreciate your wisdom !!
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| trbo20 2006-10-27, 5:25 pm |
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Professor wrote:
> Here are some images so you can see what I'm talking about
>
> http://mysite.verizon.net/iunknown/Ceiling/index.htm
>
> This is an old house and I'm not even sure how they made the ceiling because
> I don't see any screws or nails holding it up. It looks like some plaster
> was applied to the lattice and then sheetrock was stuck to it but it's
> probably screwed in and I'm not seeing the screws.
>
> I'm guessing to fix this I would cut out a square that encompasses the
> entire hole then screw in large piece of sheet rock and use mud to cover and
> smooth it out and sand it.
>
> does that sound right ? Any recommendations on materials needed?
>
> Thanks alot !!!
Yeah, this could have easily been my home a few years ago. Don't try
to repair the paster. The keys (pieces of plaster that smoosh up
between the lath and hold it all together) are long gone.
Proper way:
Do what grandpa said
Improper way:
Screw 1 x 3's directly through the plaster into the ceiling joists
and attach the drywall to that.
Whatever else you do, make sure the source of that leak is fixed.
BTW, clever Verizon user name. Everything implements iunknown.
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| Grandpa 2006-10-27, 5:25 pm |
| Professor wrote:
> "Grandpa" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message news:O6s0h.26$Wy6.11@trnddc01...
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> Thanks for the advice Grandpa !!!
>
> That's sort of what I was thinking of doing but just only over that area.
> The long term plan it to rip it down and make cathedral ceilings but that's
> a couple years out.
>
> I appreciate your wisdom !!
Practical experience. Our family does this all the time. You will have a
hard time seamlessly joining the drywall to the plaster, hence my
recommendation to go to the walls.
Don't get to hasty on the cathedral ceiling part. Those ceiling rafters
may be a structural member. Get some expert advice on that, and by that
I mean someone local who can inspect the construction.
By the way, you realize that your walls are probably constructed similar?
--
Grandpa
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| Mikepier 2006-10-28, 9:25 am |
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I would just like to add that while you have the entire ceiling down,
if you have an attic above this room, now might be the best time to add
insulation. You don't have to take down all of the wood lathes, just
some to get the insulation in there, although there is nothing wrong
taking down all of the wood lathes either.
Also if you wanted to add some hi-hats or other light fixtures, now is
the time to do it with the ceiling down.
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| Professor 2006-10-28, 1:25 pm |
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"Grandpa" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:bCs0h.137$d95.11@trnddc08...
> Professor wrote:
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> Practical experience. Our family does this all the time. You will have a
> hard time seamlessly joining the drywall to the plaster, hence my
> recommendation to go to the walls.
>
> Don't get to hasty on the cathedral ceiling part. Those ceiling rafters
> may be a structural member. Get some expert advice on that, and by that
> I mean someone local who can inspect the construction.
>
> By the way, you realize that your walls are probably constructed similar?
>
> --
> Grandpa
Yes we are definately going to get some help with the catherdral ceiling
part. I peeked into the attic and I saw the cross beams, they're nothing
fancy so I'll ask the a local expert if we can get away with removing them
or replacing them with something that looks nice. And then there's the spot
where we want the sunlight. Anyway, that's all going to be done by
professionals down the road.
And I understand some of the walls are the same, they're ok. If I had alot
of money I'd think about replacing them.
Thanks for your help
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| Professor 2006-10-28, 1:25 pm |
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"Mikepier" <mikepier@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:1162038743.656010.311790@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
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> I would just like to add that while you have the entire ceiling down,
> if you have an attic above this room, now might be the best time to add
> insulation. You don't have to take down all of the wood lathes, just
> some to get the insulation in there, although there is nothing wrong
> taking down all of the wood lathes either.
> Also if you wanted to add some hi-hats or other light fixtures, now is
> the time to do it with the ceiling down.
>
I can see insulation between the lathes so we're set there. There is an
attic so I could get up there if I needed.
Thanks
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| Professor 2006-10-28, 1:25 pm |
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"trbo20" <Boward@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1161974952.608577.246040@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
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> Professor wrote:
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> Yeah, this could have easily been my home a few years ago. Don't try
> to repair the paster. The keys (pieces of plaster that smoosh up
> between the lath and hold it all together) are long gone.
>
> Proper way:
> Do what grandpa said
>
> Improper way:
> Screw 1 x 3's directly through the plaster into the ceiling joists
> and attach the drywall to that.
>
> Whatever else you do, make sure the source of that leak is fixed.
>
> BTW, clever Verizon user name. Everything implements iunknown.
>
Our long long term plans are a catherdral ceiling so I might just patch it
for now. The roof of my house was replaced last year before I bought it so
there shouldn't be any leaks. Its pouring out today so I'll probably take a
look to make sure.
> BTW, clever Verizon user name. Everything implements iunknown.
>
Thanks, not many people understand it and think I'm trying to by anonymous.
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| trbo20 2006-10-30, 9:25 am |
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Professor wrote:
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> Our long long term plans are a catherdral ceiling so I might just patch it
> for now. The roof of my house was replaced last year before I bought it so
> there shouldn't be any leaks. Its pouring out today so I'll probably take a
> look to make sure.
>
>
> Thanks, not many people understand it and think I'm trying to by anonymous.
I used to do some consulting under my own company name, "Option
Explicit"
Most people didn't get it.
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