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Author Plugging toilet problems
Don

2006-02-13, 11:21 am

I have a new house which was built 9 years ago. I have had problems having
toilets plugging way too often. The toilets just don't have the flushing
action needed. This is happening to virtually evey toilet in the house. Is
this the result of cheap builder toilets or is there something I can do to
help the toilets flush better?

Thanks in advance


hallerb@aol.com

2006-02-13, 11:21 am

Do they flush well if you use a bucket of water? have they always been
a problem?

If so I have a likely solution cheap too

Don

2006-02-13, 12:21 pm

Have tried this with no help. When the toilets are flushed they flush with
no force. This has always been a problem. My 6 year old and 3 year old will
plus the toilet. And I know they are not flushing other things down the
toilet. I have a toilet in the basement which is VERY RARELY used with the
same result. Do I need to get better toilets?


<hallerb@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Do they flush well if you use a bucket of water? have they always been
> a problem?
>
> If so I have a likely solution cheap too
>



hallerb@aol.com

2006-02-13, 12:21 pm

So they still dont flush well even when using just a bucket of water?

Have they always been a problem?

Tony Hwang

2006-02-13, 1:21 pm

Don wrote:

> I have a new house which was built 9 years ago. I have had problems having
> toilets plugging way too often. The toilets just don't have the flushing
> action needed. This is happening to virtually evey toilet in the house. Is
> this the result of cheap builder toilets or is there something I can do to
> help the toilets flush better?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>

Hi,
Time to check vent stack? Maybe bird nest in there?
2 storey, bumgalow style house?
Guess time to make a trip to the roof.
Don

2006-02-13, 1:21 pm

Does not help using the water
<hallerb@aol.com> wrote in message
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> So they still dont flush well even when using just a bucket of water?
>
> Have they always been a problem?
>



Art

2006-02-13, 2:21 pm

Check the vent stack but probably lousy toilets. Also don't use the most
expensive Charmin..... it takes forever to dissolve.

If you decide to replace a toilet check Consumer Reports at the library.
They have rated them within the last year.




"Don" <NoSpam4Me@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I have a new house which was built 9 years ago. I have had problems having
>toilets plugging way too often. The toilets just don't have the flushing
>action needed. This is happening to virtually evey toilet in the house. Is
>this the result of cheap builder toilets or is there something I can do to
>help the toilets flush better?
>
> Thanks in advance
>



~^Johnny^~

2006-02-13, 6:21 pm

On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 10:39:57 -0600, "Don" <NoSpam4Me@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Does not help using the water


It does help, if done right.

Hold a half-filled 5 gal bucket above your head and pour into drain
hole. It'll provide triple the pressure of the water from the tank.

The there's the old-fashioned plunger - works well for me, too

If your turds are too big, beat 'em up with a stick before flushing,
and flush before wiping (adding paper).

><hallerb@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:1139844923.018720.305650@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>

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Steve Kulpa

2006-02-13, 6:21 pm

I recently moved into an almost new house and they have Toto toilets
through-out. while I had to order new flappers on-line because they are
bigger than standard flappers (i.e., not stocked at any local store) -
the bigger hole makes these johns flush like there's no tomorrow.
Could probably flush a hardball down 'em.

steve

tj

2006-02-13, 8:21 pm

Go get a super flush toilet! I bought a Vanity from American Standard. I was
getting tired of double flushing and plunging. The builder probably put a
$49 cheaply in. It was the best $$$ I ever spent. Kohler has one too that
can flush
21 golf balls at a time ( too bad it didn't compare Lincoln logs) !

"Steve Kulpa" <stevekulpa@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>I recently moved into an almost new house and they have Toto toilets
> through-out. while I had to order new flappers on-line because they are
> bigger than standard flappers (i.e., not stocked at any local store) -
> the bigger hole makes these johns flush like there's no tomorrow.
> Could probably flush a hardball down 'em.
>
> steve
>



Rick Shaw

2006-02-13, 9:21 pm

The early models of the "low flush toilets" were not well designed and
presented problems like you are experiencing.
You might be ahead of the game to install a new toilet and if that solves
the problem, you can replace the other toilets as you see fit.

Here is information on the best makes and models available today.

file:///C:/Mystuff/HouseHints/BestLowFlushToilets.htm

MCG



"Don" <NoSpam4Me@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I have a new house which was built 9 years ago. I have had problems having
> toilets plugging way too often. The toilets just don't have the flushing
> action needed. This is happening to virtually evey toilet in the house. Is
> this the result of cheap builder toilets or is there something I can do to
> help the toilets flush better?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>
>




hallerb@aol.com

2006-02-13, 10:21 pm

The ORIGINAL low flush toilets tended to use all the same bopwls and
tanks but low level of flush water.

he might try raisining the water level in the tank to right below the
dip tube, and putting in a old style flaper

the website toiletology talks about this.

hallerb@aol.com

2006-02-13, 10:21 pm

http://www.toiletology.com/toc.shtml

if he used the blue or clear treatment things in tank that can cause
the trouble

Doug Warner

2006-02-13, 11:21 pm

"Don" <NoSpam4Me@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I have a new house which was built 9 years ago. I have had problems =

having=20
>toilets plugging way too often. The toilets just don't have the =

flushing=20
>action needed. This is happening to virtually evey toilet in the house. =

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>this the result of cheap builder toilets or is there something I can do =

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>help the toilets flush better?
>
>Thanks in advance=20
>



http://www.cwwa.ca/pdf_files/MaP%20...2010%202006.pdf

These folks have done some very thorough (and realistic) testing. =20
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hallerb@aol.com

2006-02-13, 11:21 pm

This link says they dont take into consideration NOISE

Excessive noise at nite is a major issue.

Frankly my NEXT toilet is coming from canada, 3 gallons or more

my current low flush toilet uses too much water when flushed 3 times
for one load of solids!

Art

2006-02-14, 12:21 am

The Gerber with sloan pressure valve are very quiet.


<hallerb@aol.com> wrote in message
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> This link says they dont take into consideration NOISE
>
> Excessive noise at nite is a major issue.
>
> Frankly my NEXT toilet is coming from canada, 3 gallons or more
>
> my current low flush toilet uses too much water when flushed 3 times
> for one load of solids!
>



Ted Mittelstaedt

2006-02-14, 6:21 am


"Rick Shaw" <mcg@qlink.ca> wrote in message
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> The early models of the "low flush toilets" were not well designed and
> presented problems like you are experiencing.


The later models aren't well designed either, they get around the problem by
a redesign of the flushing mechanism so that if you sit there holding the
flush handle
down the toilet flushes much more water than if you just give the toilet
handle
the typical jog. I guess that meets the letter of the law in locations that
require
the builders to use low flush toilets, while not meeting the spirit of it.

Fortunately in our area there's hardware stores that sell used toilets, and
putting a modern flushing mechanism into a 1950's era toilet gives you a
pretty damn good toilet.

Ted


Rick Shaw

2006-02-14, 2:21 pm

Interesting twist of events, huh? Will keep that in mind when I next
encounter a balky toilet.
Rick

"Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Rick Shaw" <mcg@qlink.ca> wrote in message
> news:962ee$43f12a8a$d111918a$3807@MDI.CA...
>
> The later models aren't well designed either, they get around the problem

by
> a redesign of the flushing mechanism so that if you sit there holding the
> flush handle
> down the toilet flushes much more water than if you just give the toilet
> handle
> the typical jog. I guess that meets the letter of the law in locations

that
> require
> the builders to use low flush toilets, while not meeting the spirit of it.
>
> Fortunately in our area there's hardware stores that sell used toilets,

and
> putting a modern flushing mechanism into a 1950's era toilet gives you a
> pretty damn good toilet.
>
> Ted
>
>
>




yellowbirddog@hotmail.com

2006-02-14, 2:21 pm


Doug Warner wrote:
> http://www.cwwa.ca/pdf_files/MaP%20...2010%202006.pdf
>
> These folks have done some very thorough (and realistic) testing.
> --


In addition to that, be sure to read owner comments of toilets on this
page before you buy one:

http://www.terrylove.com/crtoilet.htm

Some toilets that test good unfortunately have numerous other problems.


That page also has a good forum.

~^Johnny^~

2006-02-15, 5:21 am

On 14 Feb 2006 10:05:32 -0800, yellowbirddog@hotmail.com wrote:

>Some toilets that test good unfortunately have numerous other problems.
>


Ah, the perils of parking your fat XXX on the porcelain Pontiac.

You'll soon find yourself in deep shit.

Never by a toilet from a poker expert ... for he knows that
a full house and a straight flush are impossible, at the same time.

Sorry for my bad pun. It's a bunch of crap, anyway.


--
-john
wide-open at throttle dot info
SteveSch

2006-02-27, 9:21 pm

On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:56:16 -0800, Rick Shaw wrote:

<<snip>>

> file:///C:/Mystuff/HouseHints/BestLowFlushToilets.htm


This is a link to a local file on your computer.

Steve
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