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Author Blow torch, propane torch
mm

2006-03-20, 1:21 am

Does it bother anyone here that so many people refer to a propane
torch as a blow torch, and that so few people seem to know what a blow
torch is?
Robert Allison

2006-03-20, 1:21 am

mm wrote:
> Does it bother anyone here that so many people refer to a propane
> torch as a blow torch, and that so few people seem to know what a blow
> torch is?


Yes, but it is one of those things that you are never going to
correct. I feel the same way about people that use the term
"hot water heater".

--
Robert Allison
Rimshot, Inc.
Georgetown, TX
Toller

2006-03-20, 2:21 am


"mm" <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> Does it bother anyone here that so many people refer to a propane
> torch as a blow torch, and that so few people seem to know what a blow
> torch is?


Not in the least. Everyone knows what is meant, so what difference does it
make?

I saw a blow torch at an auction and was going to buy just to see what it
did, but somebody thought it was a collectible. Oh well.


George E. Cawthon

2006-03-20, 3:21 am

mm wrote:
> Does it bother anyone here that so many people refer to a propane
> torch as a blow torch, and that so few people seem to know what a blow
> torch is?


No, because they do the same thing. However, most
people probably couldn't figure out how to start a
blow torch without some help and wold consider
them extremely dangerous.
annie.ryder@gmail.com

2006-03-20, 7:21 am


There is'nt much diference...just figurative.

annie.ryder@gmail.com

George E. Cawthon wrote:
> mm wrote:
>
> No, because they do the same thing. However, most
> people probably couldn't figure out how to start a
> blow torch without some help and wold consider
> them extremely dangerous.


annie.ryder@gmail.com

2006-03-20, 7:21 am


There is'nt much diference...just figurative.

annie.ryder@gmail.com

George E. Cawthon wrote:
> mm wrote:
>
> No, because they do the same thing. However, most
> people probably couldn't figure out how to start a
> blow torch without some help and wold consider
> them extremely dangerous.


Edwin Pawlowski

2006-03-20, 8:21 am


<annie.ryder@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> There is'nt much diference...just figurative.
>


No, there is a huge difference. The old blow torch is nothing at all like
the propane torches. Have you ever used a blow torch? Different fuel,
different configuration, fillable versus throw away tanks, different flame
patterns.

Apples and oranges are both fruit, therefore there isn't much difference,
just figurative.


Edwin Pawlowski

2006-03-20, 8:21 am


"George E. Cawthon" <GeorgeC-Boise@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> mm wrote:
>
> No, because they do the same thing. However, most people probably
> couldn't figure out how to start a blow torch without some help and wold
> consider them extremely dangerous.



George, you surprise me. Given your usual exactedness I figured it would
bug you as much as me. I realize we cannot change the world's use of
language, but I just can't lump together anything that has a flame with blow
torches. Picky, I am.


trader4@optonline.net

2006-03-20, 8:21 am


Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> "George E. Cawthon" <GeorgeC-Boise@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>
>
> George, you surprise me. Given your usual exactedness I figured it would
> bug you as much as me. I realize we cannot change the world's use of
> language, but I just can't lump together anything that has a flame with blow
> torches. Picky, I am.


Of course key to this discussion and which no one has really addressed,
is what exactly is the correct definition of blow torch? I always
thought it referred to the antique devices that used gasoline in a like
a quart size container attaced to an upper part that was the torch.
Like this:
http://www.fotosearch.com/PHD248/os04018

In movies or the media, it's common to see that term used to refer to
an acetylene cutting torch, but I wouldn't call it that.

A quick websearch found this from Wikipedia:

A blowtorch has several meanings, which deal with tools that consume
fuel. It may mean a:-

Cutting torch, a handheld torch used for cutting metal.
Blowlamp, a torch using propane or butane; its predecessors used
gasoline or kerosene for fuel.
One of the G.I.Joe toys is named Blowtorch: he is usually shown with a
flamethrower.
See blowpipe

Also, look at these, which are current ads for propane torches which
are called blow torches, but many look remarkably similar to a
Bernzomatic and use the same fuel:

http://microtorches.ayay.com/BlowTorches.htm

http://www.plumbworld.co.uk/0-759


So, what are others opinions of the correct definition of blow torch?

hallerb@aol.com

2006-03-20, 8:21 am

I hope blowtorches are collectible! I will sell mine on e bay! I only
kinda used it once with my mom when I was a little kid helping strip
lead base paint from a porch

I am 49 safety was different back then!

E bay here I come...............

marson

2006-03-20, 9:21 am

now what about those people that call twist drills "drill bits". grrrr!

Frank Boettcher

2006-03-20, 10:21 am

On 20 Mar 2006 03:40:29 -0800, trader4@optonline.net wrote:

>
>Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>
>Of course key to this discussion and which no one has really addressed,
>is what exactly is the correct definition of blow torch? I always
>thought it referred to the antique devices that used gasoline in a like
>a quart size container attaced to an upper part that was the torch.
>Like this:
>http://www.fotosearch.com/PHD248/os04018
>
> In movies or the media, it's common to see that term used to refer to
>an acetylene cutting torch, but I wouldn't call it that.
>


That is oxy-fuel cutting torch to be correct. Acetylene is just one
of the potential fuels that can be used with that torch. Others
include natural gas, propane, MAP, and possibly others. Different
tips.

RobertM

2006-03-20, 11:21 am


"Joseph Meehan" <sligojoe_Spamno@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> mm wrote:
>
> No, why should it. It is almost always totally clear what they are
> talking about. From a legalistic view, consider that it is usage that
> determines what a word means not the dictionary. The dictionary only
> reflects usage. So based on that, blow torch now includes propane
> torches.
>
> --
> Joseph Meehan
>
> Dia duit

If this bothers someone they should never live in the South. We don't
mash potatoes, we mash the lights to turn them on and off. If you "don't
care to do something" it means you do want to do it. If someone understands
what I mean, then the words are correct. Let my prim and proper Boston
English teacher turn over in her grave.

Bob


John McGaw

2006-03-20, 12:21 pm

mm wrote:
> Does it bother anyone here that so many people refer to a propane
> torch as a blow torch, and that so few people seem to know what a blow
> torch is?


It bothers me about as much as someone referring to a "steam roller"
when clearly any steam rollers still existing are valuable collector's
items. And it bothers me far less than sleazy politicians (an oxymoron,
I know) and any number of other daily annoyances.

And I do know how to use and have used a blowtorch (oh so many years
ago) and given the choice I'd never trade one for my nice self-igniting
pushbutton propane torch, thank you very much.

--
John McGaw
[Knoxville, TN, USA]
http://johnmcgaw.com
GotBonus?

2006-03-20, 3:21 pm


<annie.ryder@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> There is'nt much diference...just figurative.



Aside from the seperate oxygen and acetylene tanks you mean?


> annie.ryder@gmail.com
>
> George E. Cawthon wrote:
>



mm

2006-03-20, 6:22 pm

On 20 Mar 2006 04:29:53 -0800, "marson" <briankontio@gmail.com> wrote:

>now what about those people that call twist drills "drill bits". grrrr!


I may be one of them, not sure. Set me straight, please. I don't
want to behave like those who don't know what a blow torch is.
mm

2006-03-20, 6:22 pm

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:08:04 -0500, John McGaw <nobody@nowh.ere>
wrote:

>
>And I do know how to use and have used a blowtorch (oh so many years
>ago) and given the choice I'd never trade one for my nice self-igniting
>pushbutton propane torch, thank you very much.


I didn't say a propane torch wasn't better, only that they are
different things.

But since you bring it up, aren't blow torches hotter? I'm not sure
why I think they are, except that they burn gasoline, which somehow
seems hotter to me than propane.
>
>--
>John McGaw


Edwin Pawlowski

2006-03-20, 6:22 pm


"Joseph Meehan" <sligojoe_Spamno@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> No, why should it. It is almost always totally clear what they are
> talking about. From a legalistic view, consider that it is usage that
> determines what a word means not the dictionary. The dictionary only
> reflects usage. So based on that, blow torch now includes propane
> torches.
>


Almost, but not always. If someone says "I used a blowtorch to solder the
fittings" chances are it makes no difference in context.

If, though, a person asks a question how do you know what the response
should be. Each of the following requires a different answer.

1. How do I light my blowtorch

2. How do I light my Oxy Acetylene torch

3. How do I troubleshoot may MAPP gas torch with push button start

4. How do I light my propane torch

Replace the type of torch in the last three questions with "blowtorch" and
you will not be able to give a proper answer. Precise use of the written
word is never wrong, but slang and sloppy use can be disastrous.

Want to be confused:
An airplane can be a plane, but a plane can never be an airplane.

Where I work, we make boxes. Sometimes customers want them in cartons.

I wore my heavy coat today because the temperature was 20. I'm packing a
suitcase for my trip with short sleeved shirts because it will be 20 degrees
when I arrive.


Goedjn

2006-03-20, 6:22 pm

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 16:20:36 -0500, mm <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com>
wrote:
[color=darkred]
>On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:08:04 -0500, John McGaw <nobody@nowh.ere>
>wrote:
>
>
>I didn't say a propane torch wasn't better, only that they are
>different things.
>
>But since you bring it up, aren't blow torches hotter? I'm not sure
>why I think they are, except that they burn gasoline, which somehow
>seems hotter to me than propane.

mm

2006-03-20, 8:21 pm

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:19:15 -0700, "GotBonus?" <gotbonus@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
><annie.ryder@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1142851709.636684.215780@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>Aside from the seperate oxygen and acetylene tanks you mean?


No. That's an acetylene torch, a third kind.

Blow torches run on gasoline, iiuc.

>


Marc

2006-03-20, 8:21 pm

John McGaw wrote:

> And it bothers me far less than sleazy politicians (an oxymoron,
> I know)


"Sleazy politician" is a redundancy, not an oxymoron :-)
--
--Marc

Ralph Mowery

2006-03-20, 8:21 pm


"Robert Allison" <robert272@spamless.net> wrote in message
news:oPqTf.2771$I7.22@trnddc03...
> mm wrote:
>
> Yes, but it is one of those things that you are never going to
> correct. I feel the same way about people that use the term
> "hot water heater".
>

It has to be a hot water heater... Who wants to heat the cold water, or
have cold hot water :-)




George E. Cawthon

2006-03-20, 9:21 pm

trader4@optonline.net wrote:
> Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>
>
>
> Of course key to this discussion and which no one has really addressed,
> is what exactly is the correct definition of blow torch? I always
> thought it referred to the antique devices that used gasoline in a like
> a quart size container attaced to an upper part that was the torch.
> Like this:
> http://www.fotosearch.com/PHD248/os04018
>
> In movies or the media, it's common to see that term used to refer to
> an acetylene cutting torch, but I wouldn't call it that.
>
> A quick websearch found this from Wikipedia:
>
> A blowtorch has several meanings, which deal with tools that consume
> fuel. It may mean a:-
>
> Cutting torch, a handheld torch used for cutting metal.
> Blowlamp, a torch using propane or butane; its predecessors used
> gasoline or kerosene for fuel.
> One of the G.I.Joe toys is named Blowtorch: he is usually shown with a
> flamethrower.
> See blowpipe
>
> Also, look at these, which are current ads for propane torches which
> are called blow torches, but many look remarkably similar to a
> Bernzomatic and use the same fuel:
>
> http://microtorches.ayay.com/BlowTorches.htm
>
> http://www.plumbworld.co.uk/0-759
>
>
> So, what are others opinions of the correct definition of blow torch?
>


The antique you showed is a blow torch. More
modern ones are a bit different. An acetylene
torch is just that, a propane torch is just that,
and a flame thrower is just that. However that
doesn't keep people from making up names or using
slang or the terms incorrectly. The blow refers
to requiring a pump to build pressure and blow the
flammable material out. Modern gas torches don't
have pumps, so they just spew. Should we call
them spew torches? A flame thrower could be a
blow something, it isn't a torch. Nothing that
shoots burning material 10's of feet can possibly
be called a torch unless one also thinks a bulb
type baster is also a medicine dropper.
George E. Cawthon

2006-03-20, 9:21 pm

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> "George E. Cawthon" <GeorgeC-Boise@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>
>
>
>
> George, you surprise me. Given your usual exactedness I figured it would
> bug you as much as me. I realize we cannot change the world's use of
> language, but I just can't lump together anything that has a flame with blow
> torches. Picky, I am.
>
>

I surprise myself sometimes. just too tolerant. I
can't stand to read or hear a person say "affect"
when they mean effect." But I have learned to
put up with "bullet" for "cartridge." But I see
little difference in function between the two
pieces of equipment, but I don't really believe
anyone uses a real blow torch. I don't think I
understood your last sentence, since both have
flames.
nanook

2006-03-21, 9:21 am

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:08:04 -0500, John McGaw <nobody@nowh.ere>
wrote:

>mm wrote:
>
>It bothers me about as much as someone referring to a "steam roller"
>when clearly any steam rollers still existing are valuable collector's
>items. And it bothers me far less than sleazy politicians (an oxymoron,
>I know) and any number of other daily annoyances.
>
>And I do know how to use and have used a blowtorch (oh so many years
>ago) and given the choice I'd never trade one for my nice self-igniting
>pushbutton propane torch, thank you very much.



my peeve is ATM Machine, or any other acronym where folks feel like
they have to say the last word of what they are talking about...why
not say, ATM and leave it at that? why do we feel compelled to say
"machine"?

an oxymoron is sometimes ironic and always contradicting...like honest
politician, deafening silence, military intelligence, calling a tall
man shorty, a fat man tiny, or a bald man curly.

sleazy politician is an editorial, an opinion, and unfortunately, a
bunch of the time true.

Mark Lloyd

2006-03-21, 1:21 pm

On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:46:12 GMT, nanook <clewis@mssblue.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:08:04 -0500, John McGaw <nobody@nowh.ere>
>wrote:
>
>
>
>my peeve is ATM Machine, or any other acronym where folks feel like
>they have to say the last word of what they are talking about...why
>not say, ATM and leave it at that? why do we feel compelled to say
>"machine"?
>


I hear "PIN Number" a lot.

>an oxymoron is sometimes ironic and always contradicting...like honest
>politician, deafening silence, military intelligence, calling a tall
>man shorty, a fat man tiny, or a bald man curly.
>
>sleazy politician is an editorial, an opinion, and unfortunately, a
>bunch of the time true.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb
contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin
No

2006-03-21, 2:21 pm

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"mm" <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> Does it bother anyone here that so many people refer to a propane
> torch as a blow torch, and that so few people seem to know what a blow
> torch is?


So I guess that the blow torch of yester year has evolved into the blow torn
of today aka the propane torch.

How many of us have several 'cressent wrenches"?


buffalobill

2006-03-22, 9:21 am

http://www.answers.com/blowtorch

Edwin Pawlowski

2006-03-22, 6:21 pm


"buffalobill" <wjohnston@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> http://www.answers.com/blowtorch
>


Simple definition, but not very detailed. It does not mix just oxygen in
true terms as the original blow torches used air. Oxy-Acetylene torches (as
well as a few others) use compressed oxygen combining the gasses at the tip.
..

Original design was a gasoline powered torch that blew air with the fuel. .


mm

2006-03-23, 12:21 am

On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:46:12 GMT, nanook <clewis@mssblue.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:08:04 -0500, John McGaw <nobody@nowh.ere>
>wrote:
>
>
>
>my peeve is ATM Machine, or any other acronym where folks feel like
>they have to say the last word of what they are talking about...why
>not say, ATM and leave it at that? why do we feel compelled to say
>"machine"?
>
>an oxymoron is sometimes ironic and always contradicting...like honest
>politician, deafening silence, military intelligence, calling a tall
>man shorty, a fat man tiny, or a bald man curly.


I think these last three have another name that is more specific than
oxymoron. One that pretty much only applies to examples like yours.
but I forget what it is called.
>
>sleazy politician is an editorial, an opinion, and unfortunately, a
>bunch of the time true.


mm

2006-03-23, 12:21 am

On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 11:10:12 -0600, Mark Lloyd <mlloyd@xmail.com10>
wrote:

>On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:46:12 GMT, nanook <clewis@mssblue.net> wrote:
>
>
>I hear "PIN Number" a lot.


I always call it a password and the people at the bank rarely know
what I'm talking about.

>

mm

2006-03-23, 12:21 am

On 21 Mar 2006 18:58:22 +0100, "No" <no@email.com> wrote:

>"mm" <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
>news:8rbs12dlquathc2n8on4pu3l6ip8flmgco@4ax.com...
>
>So I guess that the blow torch of yester year has evolved into the blow torn
>of today aka the propane torch.


Even that wouuldn't be so bad. But they were just called propane
torches for decades, and only in the last decade have some started
callihg them blow torches. If they got along without calling them
blow torches for decades, they could have managed forever.
>
>How many of us have several 'cressent wrenches"?


I do. I have several crescent wrenches. Not all by Crescent.

I have water pump pliers, too.

Goedjn

2006-03-23, 1:21 pm

On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 22:42:03 -0500, mm <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com>
wrote:

>On 21 Mar 2006 18:58:22 +0100, "No" <no@email.com> wrote:
>
>
>Even that wouuldn't be so bad. But they were just called propane
>torches for decades, and only in the last decade have some started
>callihg them blow torches. If they got along without calling them
>blow torches for decades, they could have managed forever.


When gasoline torches are the default type of blowtorch,
you call a propane torch something different to make the
distinction. SInce gasoline torches are now vanishingly
rare, it makes perfect sense to apply the generic term
"blowtorch" to the most common form in use: The propane
torch.

Edwin Pawlowski

2006-03-23, 7:21 pm


"Goedjn" <prose@mail.uri.edu> wrote in message
> When gasoline torches are the default type of blowtorch,
> you call a propane torch something different to make the
> distinction. SInce gasoline torches are now vanishingly
> rare, it makes perfect sense to apply the generic term
> "blowtorch" to the most common form in use: The propane
> torch.



Makes no sensr to me. If a propane torch becomes a blow torch, then it is
no longer a propane torch. Now that MAPP gass is becoming more popular,
that makies it even more confusing. George Forman aside, our parents
usually give our siblings different names so we know who they and who they
aren't.



mm

2006-03-23, 7:21 pm

On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 11:18:26 -0500, Goedjn <prose@mail.uri.edu> wrote:

>On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 22:42:03 -0500, mm <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com>
>wrote:
>
>
>When gasoline torches are the default type of blowtorch,
>you call a propane torch something different to make the
>distinction. SInce gasoline torches are now vanishingly
>rare, it makes perfect sense to apply the generic term


I see your argument but it reminds me of an occasion where the only
someone dies and people run in and take his stuff. The propane torch
had a name, a specific one**, and afaic the gasoline torch had a name
that bleonged to it, and should have been retired or assigned to
history,

>"blowtorch" to the most common form in use: The propane
>torch.


**I don't see the point of using a generic name, if that is what it
is***, when one could have continued to use the specific name, propane
torch.

***It seems to me that by the liberal^^ definition of blowtorch, the
only torch that isn't a blowtorch is the kind the villagers carried in
the first Frankenstein movie.

^^And I'm not against liberals or liberalism, except on an occasional
case-by-case basis.

<grin>
Goedjn

2006-03-23, 7:21 pm

On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 22:53:38 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net>
wrote:

>
>"Goedjn" <prose@mail.uri.edu> wrote in message
>
>
>Makes no sensr to me. If a propane torch becomes a blow torch, then it is
>no longer a propane torch. Now that MAPP gass is becoming more popular,
>that makies it even more confusing. George Forman aside, our parents
>usually give our siblings different names so we know who they and who they
>aren't.


Thats because you decided a-priori that "blowtorch" was a species
name, and not a genus name, when in fact
"Propane torch", "Gasoline torch", "Mapp Torch", and
"Oxy-Acetylene torch" are all species designations within
the genus "blowtorch".



>


Edwin Pawlowski

2006-03-23, 8:21 pm


"Goedjn" <prose@mail.uri.edu> wrote in message
> Thats because you decided a-priori that "blowtorch" was a species
> name, and not a genus name, when in fact
> "Propane torch", "Gasoline torch", "Mapp Torch", and
> "Oxy-Acetylene torch" are all species designations within
> the genus "blowtorch".


I didn't decide anything. The blowtorch was, and still is, a specific type
of torch. It existed and co-existed along with many other types of torches.
I was not the one that named it, but perhaps the inventor did. Genus name
is "torch", but there are specific types, not to be confused with others.

You post from an edu account. Perhaps you have been in the hall of ivy for
a long time rather than work in the trades. If you asked someone at a
jobsite to bring you a blowtorch, you got a blowtorch, not a propane, MAPP,
or other type. Go check with the old timers in the maintenance department.


Mys Terry

2006-03-24, 8:21 am

On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 00:14:33 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote:

>
>"Goedjn" <prose@mail.uri.edu> wrote in message
>
>I didn't decide anything. The blowtorch was, and still is, a specific type
>of torch. It existed and co-existed along with many other types of torches.
>I was not the one that named it, but perhaps the inventor did. Genus name
>is "torch", but there are specific types, not to be confused with others.
>
>You post from an edu account. Perhaps you have been in the hall of ivy for
>a long time rather than work in the trades. If you asked someone at a
>jobsite to bring you a blowtorch, you got a blowtorch, not a propane, MAPP,
>or other type. Go check with the old timers in the maintenance department.
>


They are ALL blow torches and work on the exact same principle. Some you
pressurize by operating a hand pump, and some used pressurized gas. Lazy speak
has made a "propane blow torch" into a "propane 'torch". The pumping you do by
hand on an old style blowtorch is for the purpose of pressurizing the fuel. That
is not the air used to make the fuel burn hotter. The additional air for
combustion is added by use of the venturi effect and non pressurized air. An
oxy-acetelye blowtorch substitutes a source of pressurized oxygen for the
non-prssurized ambient air to achieve higher temps.

The term "blow torch" describes a device with a flame which is accelerated by
pressurized gas and can be directed. This is to distinguish it from a torch
which is not pressurized and does not "blow" the flame.


Don Klipstein

2006-03-27, 3:21 pm

In article <s2642297i9ndhrag0a5459unjb3h9m24o9@4ax.com>, mm wrote:

>Even that wouuldn't be so bad. But they were just called propane
>torches for decades, and only in the last decade have some started
>callihg them blow torches. If they got along without calling them
>blow torches for decades, they could have managed forever.


My mother called a propane torch a blowtorch 30 years ago.

- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
Oscar_Lives

2006-03-30, 10:21 am


"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message
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> "George E. Cawthon" <GeorgeC-Boise@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>
>
> George, you surprise me. Given your usual exactedness I figured it would
> bug you as much as me. I realize we cannot change the world's use of
> language, but I just can't lump together anything that has a flame with
> blow torches. Picky, I am.



Blowtorch
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A blowtorch has several meanings, which deal with tools that consume fuel.
It may mean a:-

a.. Cutting torch, a handheld torch used for cutting metal.
b.. Blowlamp, a torch using propane or butane; its predecessors used
gasoline or kerosene for fuel.
c.. One of the G.I.Joe toys is named Blowtorch: he is usually shown with a
flamethrower.
d.. See blowpipe.


Oscar_Lives

2006-03-30, 10:21 am


"mm" <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> On 20 Mar 2006 04:29:53 -0800, "marson" <briankontio@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I may be one of them, not sure. Set me straight, please. I don't
> want to behave like those who don't know what a blow torch is.



Drill bit
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Drill bits are cutting tools used to create cylindrical holes. Bits are held
in a tool called a drill, which rotates them and provides axial force to
create the hole.




Oscar_Lives

2006-03-30, 10:21 am


"John McGaw" <nobody@nowh.ere> wrote in message
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> mm wrote:
>
> It bothers me about as much as someone referring to a "steam roller" when
> clearly any steam rollers still existing are valuable collector's items.
> And it bothers me far less than sleazy politicians (an oxymoron, I know)
> and any number of other daily annoyances.
>
> And I do know how to use and have used a blowtorch (oh so many years ago)
> and given the choice I'd never trade one for my nice self-igniting
> pushbutton propane torch, thank you very much.
>
> --
> John McGaw
> [Knoxville, TN, USA]
> http://johnmcgaw.com




A steamroller is a type of heavy machinery which consists of a large tractor
and a heavy cylinder that sits in front of it and functions as the front
wheel. Steamrollers are generally used in paving roads, to flatten out the
surface.


George E. Cawthon

2006-03-30, 9:21 pm

Oscar_Lives wrote:
> "Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message
> news:PhwTf.22220$tb3.3294@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net...
>
>
>
>
> Blowtorch
> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
> (Redirected from Blow torch)
> Jump to: navigation, search
> A blowtorch has several meanings, which deal with tools that consume fuel.
> It may mean a:-
>
> a.. Cutting torch, a handheld torch used for cutting metal.
> b.. Blowlamp, a torch using propane or butane; its predecessors used
> gasoline or kerosene for fuel.
> c.. One of the G.I.Joe toys is named Blowtorch: he is usually shown with a
> flamethrower.
> d.. See blowpipe.
>
>

If you rely on Wikipedia you are severely limited
as there has been considerable criticism of this
"resource." Blowlamp, for example, is rather
uncommon in the USA (I have never heard it). I
doubt many people know what a "blowpipe" is, and
the item so called in geology, chemistry, and
mineral studies is nothing like a gasoline blowtorch.
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