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Re: What is an emergency switch outside a utility room supposed to be for?
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| The Other Funk 2007-01-28, 8:25 pm |
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> The switch has a red plate with the words EMERGENCY SWITCH on it.
> There are 3 gas appliances in the room: a gas heater, a gas water
> heater, and a gas dryer.
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> Is the switch for a particular one of the appliances in the room, or
> is it for the whole room? Under what circumstances should the switch
> be used?
> Thanks.
It's to cut the electric power to the furnace and is required in NJ. In
fact, I once had trouble getting a CO because a tight assed inspector made
me change the "OIL BURNER EMERGENCY" switch to one that said GAS because it
was a gas furnace.
It does not cut off the gas or power to any thing else that I have ever seen
so I don't know what practical use it serves.
Bob
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| Think of a relay on the furnace jamming in the closed position and the
furnace just keeps blowing hot air, and won't stop running
"The Other Funk" <bobbie@moondoggie.com> wrote in message
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> Finding the keyboard operational
> mtco entered:
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> It's to cut the electric power to the furnace and is required in NJ. In
> fact, I once had trouble getting a CO because a tight assed inspector made
> me change the "OIL BURNER EMERGENCY" switch to one that said GAS because
> it was a gas furnace.
> It does not cut off the gas or power to any thing else that I have ever
> seen so I don't know what practical use it serves.
> Bob
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> Coffee worth staying up for - NY Times
> www.moondoggiecoffee.com
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| Edwin Pawlowski 2007-01-29, 3:25 am |
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"George E. Cawthon" <GeorgeC-Boise@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> So? Wouldn't the furnace be on breaker and you would just trip the
> breaker? Of Course tripping the electricity would (should) stop the
> release of gas from a electronically controlled appliance. Wouldn't work
> with my gas water heater since there isn't any electricity to it and glad
> of it. Power goes off, I've still got hot water.
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> Maybe NJ is just a bit too controlling-- make that "They are a bit
> paranoid."
In reality, how many people know where the breakers are, let alone which one
to flip? It may be that the breaker box is in close proximity to the
malfunctioning appliance too.
In my case, the emergency switch is on the upper level. No need to go near
an overheating oil burner, or one that is spewing smoke.
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| Nope, when a heating device like a boiler or furnace malfunctions, you want
something really obvious to turn it off. You don't need to be scrounging
around a breaker panel for the right one. Got nothing to do with paranoia,
just safety
"George E. Cawthon" <GeorgeC-Boise@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> RBM wrote:
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> So? Wouldn't the furnace be on breaker and you would just trip the
> breaker? Of Course tripping the electricity would (should) stop the
> release of gas from a electronically controlled appliance. Wouldn't work
> with my gas water heater since there isn't any electricity to it and glad
> of it. Power goes off, I've still got hot water.
>
> Maybe NJ is just a bit too controlling-- make that "They are a bit
> paranoid."
>
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| On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 03:09:36 GMT, "George E. Cawthon"
<GeorgeC-Boise@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
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>Maybe NJ is just a bit too controlling-- make that
> "They are a bit paranoid."
Maryland, or maybe it's Baltimore, is considering banning trans-fat at
restaurants. They are afraid that people will die from second-hand
fat.
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| The Other Funk 2007-01-29, 9:25 am |
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George E. Cawthon entered:
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> Maybe NJ is just a bit too controlling-- make that
> "They are a bit paranoid."
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You can not ump your own gaoline in NJ. It must be pumped by a "trained"
operator. That is to prevent all the fires that happen in all the other
states.
Bob
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| Jim Yanik 2007-01-29, 1:25 pm |
| "George E. Cawthon" <GeorgeC-Boise@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
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> RBM wrote:
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> So? Wouldn't the furnace be on breaker and you
> would just trip the breaker? Of Course tripping
> the electricity would (should) stop the release of
> gas from a electronically controlled appliance.
> Wouldn't work with my gas water heater since there
> isn't any electricity to it and glad of it. Power
> goes off, I've still got hot water.
>
> Maybe NJ is just a bit too controlling-- make that
> "They are a bit paranoid."
>
In our Tektronix field service center,we had an emergency power cutoff
button in case a person got across voltage where they could not let go.
Hit the button,and ALL the shop's power disconnects.
It's a safety feature.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
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kua.net
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| The Other Funk 2007-01-29, 1:25 pm |
| Finding the keyboard operational
Jim Yanik entered:
> "George E. Cawthon" <GeorgeC-Boise@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
> news:Qzdvh.479519$Fi1.324948@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
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> In our Tektronix field service center,we had an emergency power cutoff
> button in case a person got across voltage where they could not let
> go. Hit the button,and ALL the shop's power disconnects.
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> It's a safety feature.
I don't remember one in the Woodbridge NJ Tektronix service center but every
lab in Lucent (ex Bell Labs) had a electrical cutout. One time the
electricians used a standar light switch instead of the covered button they
were supposed to use. Made for a lot of lost work when someone turned off
the "lights".
It just goes to show how important correct labeling and equipment is.
Bob
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| Edwin Pawlowski 2007-01-29, 1:25 pm |
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"The Other Funk" <bobbie@moondoggie.com> wrote in message
> You can not ump your own gaoline in NJ. It must be pumped by a "trained"
> operator. That is to prevent all the fires that happen in all the other
> states.
> Bob
Don't think you'll get it any cheaper if you pump it yourself. The self
serve is a rip off. I work in MA. Each town decides if its citizens are
capable of pumping their own gas. The full serve is the same price as the
self serve in the next town. No reason to freeze my XXX off.
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| Goedjn 2007-01-29, 1:25 pm |
| On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 22:30:14 -0500, "Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net>
wrote:
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>"George E. Cawthon" <GeorgeC-Boise@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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>In reality, how many people know where the breakers are, let alone which one
>to flip? It may be that the breaker box is in close proximity to the
>malfunctioning appliance too.
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>In my case, the emergency switch is on the upper level. No need to go near
>an overheating oil burner, or one that is spewing smoke.
I think the rule for the emergency shutoff is that it has to
be easily accessible, not that it has to be far from
the furnace. Mine is mounted on a 3' hunk of conduit bolted
to the furnace itself, but that's because the furnace is in
the livingroom.
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| Jim Yanik 2007-01-29, 8:25 pm |
| "The Other Funk" <bobbie@moondoggie.com> wrote in
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> Finding the keyboard operational
> Jim Yanik entered:
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> I don't remember one in the Woodbridge NJ Tektronix service center but
> every lab in Lucent (ex Bell Labs) had a electrical cutout. One time
> the electricians used a standar light switch instead of the covered
> button they were supposed to use. Made for a lot of lost work when
> someone turned off the "lights".
> It just goes to show how important correct labeling and equipment is.
> Bob
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> Coffee worth staying up for - NY Times
> www.moondoggiecoffee.com
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Wayne H. and Joe V. were friends of mine. Did you know them?
They were the last two techs at Woodbridge up to the final closing of all
the Field Offices except for DCFO.(in 1999)
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Jim Yanik
jyanik
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| Jim Yanik 2007-01-29, 8:25 pm |
| "Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in
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> "The Other Funk" <bobbie@moondoggie.com> wrote in message
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> Don't think you'll get it any cheaper if you pump it yourself. The
> self serve is a rip off. I work in MA. Each town decides if its
> citizens are capable of pumping their own gas. The full serve is the
> same price as the self serve in the next town. No reason to freeze my
> XXX off.
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It's ironic that the Nation's birthplace is now a socialist hell.
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Jim Yanik
jyanik
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| Jim Yanik 2007-01-29, 8:25 pm |
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Goedjn <prose@mail.uri.edu> wrote in
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> On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 22:30:14 -0500, "Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net>
> wrote:
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> I think the rule for the emergency shutoff is that it has to
> be easily accessible, not that it has to be far from
> the furnace. Mine is mounted on a 3' hunk of conduit bolted
> to the furnace itself,
> but that's because the furnace is in
> the livingroom.
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that must be a lovely sight..... ;-}
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| Stephen King 2007-01-29, 8:25 pm |
| It's used to turn off Frankenstein's monster if the lightening charges up
too much.
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| Goedjn 2007-01-30, 1:25 pm |
| On 30 Jan 2007 01:10:04 GMT, Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:
>Goedjn <prose@mail.uri.edu> wrote in
>news:60bsr2918dval82isn1q03flu7qupcu41g@4ax.com:
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>that must be a lovely sight..... ;-}
Well, I wanted cubage more than I wanted "nice looking", so
I bought a 150 year old Masonic temple, and am converting
it. About the time I'm too old to climb the stairs,
it will be really nice. My heirs will be
delighted, bemused, or both.
--Goedjn
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| The Other Funk 2007-01-30, 8:25 pm |
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"Doug Miller" <spambait@milmac.com> wrote in message
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> In article <g0yvh.483091$Fi1.472626@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> "George E. Cawthon" <GeorgeC-Boise@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
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> The NJ law has nothing to do with preventing fires; it's all about
> protecting
> jobs.
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> Regards,
> Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
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> It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.
NJ laws never have anything to do with what law makers say they are about.
Bob
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| Edwin Pawlowski 2007-01-31, 3:25 am |
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<trader4@optonline.net> wrote in message
> The typical letter you see in the paper is along the lines "When
> I was driving on my trip to FL, NJ was the lowest gas price I saw, so
> it proves self service isn't a factor with gas prices." Of course,
> what these dummies don't understand is that NJ gas is among the lowest
> because the NJ state tax on gasoline is one of the lowest in the
> country and we are close to a number of refineries.
While what you say about taxes is true, other states, like Massachusetts
have a mix of self and full service as each town fire marshal makes the law
for pumping. The full service stations sell at the same price as the self
serve stations across the street or around the block. I'll be damned if I'm
going to stand out in the cold when I can pay the same price and have it
pumped for me. The only difference it is consistently about 30¢ higher
than NJ.
I live in CT. Some of the stations offer both, but they artificially raise
the full serve about 35¢ to 50¢ over the self serve. They really don't want
to pump it but if you make them, they will be well paid for the service. In
any case, they are about 6¢ over MA due to our very high gas taxes. I think
we are second highest in the country.
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