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fireplace door glass
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| i am considering fabricating some doors and frame for my fireplace but i
am having a hard time finding just the glass..googeling for fireplace
door glass brings up complete doors..any help would be appreciated
cj
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| Goedjn 2007-02-01, 5:25 pm |
| On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 17:51:45 -0500, cj <changbah@charter.net> wrote:
>i am considering fabricating some doors and frame for my fireplace but i
>am having a hard time finding just the glass..googeling for fireplace
>door glass brings up complete doors..any help would be appreciated
Just look for a glass company in your phone book, and tell them
what you're after.
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| cj wrote:
> i am considering fabricating some doors and frame for my fireplace but i
> am having a hard time finding just the glass..googeling for fireplace
> door glass brings up complete doors..any help would be appreciated
> cj
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I believe the glass in a fireplace door is tempered. Did you realize
that? Using regular glass might break when exposed to the reflected heat.
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| TomCase@gmail.com 2007-02-01, 8:25 pm |
| On Feb 1, 6:47 pm, Ken <u...@domain.invalid> wrote:[color=darkred]
> cj wrote:
Try this place.
http://www.onedayglass.com/index.php
If you really want some glass that is virtually shatterproof for
fireplace doors, use the NeoCeram stuff they sell. I blew out two
sets of fireplace doors (two different places) and found out that
tempered glass doors are not supposed to be closed when there is a
fire (?). Seems a bit odd...
Anyway the NeoCeram stuff is nice, you can put ice on one side and a
blowtorch on the other side and it won't shatter. The down side is it
is pricey! (e.g. two pieces 22"x24" is about $300).
They also sell tempered glass if needed too. No idea on that price.
Good site, good people, they'll customize the glass any way you want
(e.g. holes drilled, finished edges, etc), fast too. I'm sure there
are other places that sell this stuff too.
Good luck!
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| Joseph Meehan 2007-02-01, 8:25 pm |
| cj wrote:
> i am considering fabricating some doors and frame for my fireplace
> but i am having a hard time finding just the glass..googeling for
> fireplace door glass brings up complete doors..any help would be
> appreciated cj
Do you know you must order the glass made to size. You can not cut it
once it is processed. A local glass company, likely one that works with the
local fire place shops should be able to take care of you.
--
Joseph Meehan
Dia 's Muire duit
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| jackson 2007-02-01, 8:25 pm |
| >i am considering fabricating some doors and frame for my fireplace but i am
>having a hard time finding just the glass..googeling for fireplace door
>glass brings up complete doors..any help would be appreciated
> cj
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Maybe try an inquiry at a woodstove shop?
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| Rick Brandt 2007-02-01, 8:25 pm |
| TomCase@gmail.com wrote:
> I blew out two
> sets of fireplace doors (two different places) and found out that
> tempered glass doors are not supposed to be closed when there is a
> fire (?). Seems a bit odd...
What possible use would fireglass doors serve if they couldn't be closed while
you have a fire? That is exactly when they should be closed. Possibly they
were sized wrong.
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| Jeff Wisnia 2007-02-02, 3:25 am |
| Rick Brandt wrote:
> TomCase@gmail.com wrote:
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> What possible use would fireglass doors serve if they couldn't be closed while
> you have a fire? That is exactly when they should be closed. Possibly they
> were sized wrong.
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I dunno all about this kind of stuff, but I remember when I bought a set
of fireplace doors and frame at HD a couple of years ago I was suprised
to find that same warning in the installation instructions.
And of course the photo on the carton label showed the glass doors
closed with a fire blazing behind them.
Go figger, but to play it safe, I've just closed the screened doors when
the fire's burning and closed the glass doors after it's died down.
Jeff
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Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.98*10^14 fathoms per fortnight.
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| On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 00:47:32 GMT, Ken <user@domain.invalid> wrote:
>cj wrote:
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> I believe the glass in a fireplace door is tempered. Did you realize
>that? Using regular glass might break when exposed to the reflected heat.
That's why he's looking for *fireplace* door glass. 
But you make a good point.
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| Rick Brandt 2007-02-02, 3:25 am |
| Jeff Wisnia wrote:
> I dunno all about this kind of stuff, but I remember when I bought a
> set of fireplace doors and frame at HD a couple of years ago I was
> suprised to find that same warning in the installation instructions.
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> And of course the photo on the carton label showed the glass doors
> closed with a fire blazing behind them.
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> Go figger, but to play it safe, I've just closed the screened doors
> when the fire's burning and closed the glass doors after it's died
> down.
But your fireplace already has a flue to close when there is no fire. If glass
doors are only closed when there is no fire then they are doing NOTHING. There
would be zero reason to even have them.
Common sense dictates that one uses glass (as opposed to something opaque)
because you want to SEE something on the other side. I don't know about you,
but I don't find a fireplace with no fire burning anything I want to
particularly look at. So again, only closed when there is no fire means that
the doors should just be made of steel. There would be no reason to use glass
at all.
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| Hi,,, er,, uh,,, is everyone on this site really touchy? Or is it
just me. DAMN! Y'all need a deep breath, and a valium!
Besides, fireplaces suck,,, the heat right out of your house don't
they? Glass or no? I'm making a wood stove out of an old water
heater tank, thought about glazing the front but figured it would blow
sooner or later.
Thanks for your thoughts,
calm or otherwise.
KGB
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| Rick Brandt 2007-02-02, 9:25 am |
| KGB wrote:
> Hi,,, er,, uh,,, is everyone on this site really touchy? Or is it
> just me. DAMN! Y'all need a deep breath, and a valium!
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> Besides, fireplaces suck,,, the heat right out of your house don't
> they? Glass or no? I'm making a wood stove out of an old water
> heater tank, thought about glazing the front but figured it would blow
> sooner or later.
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> Thanks for your thoughts,
> calm or otherwise.
> KGB
Don't use usenet much huh?
You think this was a heated exchange? There is a total of three exclamation
marks in the thread (two of them from you) and exactly one expletive (yours).
If you're going to view a little emphasis as "being touchy" then you're going to
have a rather skewed opinion of many things you read on newsnet.
My "enthusiasm" for the fireplace door issue has been honed by numerous
conversations with my significant other who is unable to see the clarity of my
argument. If that made my post seem harsh I apologise profusely. I have a
similar enthusiasm when my mother insists that going outdoors in cold weather is
the reason you catch colds.
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| Zephyr 2007-02-02, 9:25 am |
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"cj" <changbah@charter.net> wrote in message
news:8auwh.1262$833.785@newsfe05.lga...
>i am considering fabricating some doors and frame for my fireplace but i am
>having a hard time finding just the glass..googeling for fireplace door
>glass brings up complete doors..any help would be appreciated
> cj
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CJ, if you are looking to save the heat in your house (and any produced by
the fire) from going straight up the chimney the glass doors may help a
tiny bit. But if you are really looking to cut down on the lost heat I
would really suggest looking at a new wood stove. Plus, most stoves have
an air wash system that will keep that new glass from turning black after 2
fires and prevent you from seeing anything anyway.
Dave
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| Jeff Wisnia 2007-02-02, 1:25 pm |
| Rick Brandt wrote:
> Jeff Wisnia wrote:
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> But your fireplace already has a flue to close when there is no fire. If glass
> doors are only closed when there is no fire then they are doing NOTHING. There
> would be zero reason to even have them.
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> Common sense dictates that one uses glass (as opposed to something opaque)
> because you want to SEE something on the other side. I don't know about you,
> but I don't find a fireplace with no fire burning anything I want to
> particularly look at. So again, only closed when there is no fire means that
> the doors should just be made of steel. There would be no reason to use glass
> at all.
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Yeahbut..... Those closed glass doors, just like the ones on our china
cabinet, help keep what's inside of the fireplace from getting all
dusty, don't they? <G>
Jeff
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Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.8*10^12 furlongs per fortnight.
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| Goedjn 2007-02-02, 1:25 pm |
| On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 09:12:53 -0500, "Zephyr" <Someguy@an email
address.com> wrote:
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>"cj" <changbah@charter.net> wrote in message
>news:8auwh.1262$833.785@newsfe05.lga...
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>CJ, if you are looking to save the heat in your house (and any produced by
>the fire) from going straight up the chimney the glass doors may help a
>tiny bit. But if you are really looking to cut down on the lost heat I
>would really suggest looking at a new wood stove. Plus, most stoves have
>an air wash system that will keep that new glass from turning black after 2
>fires and prevent you from seeing anything anyway.
>
>Dave
If you have both solid glass doors, and and external combustion-air
supply, a fireplace should be able to get to nearly 1/3d as
efficient as a stove.
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| German Jerry 2007-02-03, 5:25 pm |
| My kids accidentally broke the glass on my fireplace glass door and I
looked around at glass shops for a replacement. I didnt realize how
bad my damper was untill those doors were out. I ended up going a less
expensive route and getting a chimney balloon to plug the fireplace
chimney flue. This solved the bad damper and as for the glass doors I
just removed them and put a candelabra in the hearth.
I never used the fireplace much anyway, it made my home feel colder
when I used it anyway. The only comfy spot was right in front of it.
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| The Shower Door Store 2007-02-03, 5:25 pm |
| On Feb 1, 5:51 pm, cj <chang...@charter.net> wrote:
> i am considering fabricating some doors and frame for my fireplace but i
> am having a hard time finding just theglass..googeling for fireplace
> doorglassbrings up complete doors..any help would be appreciated
> cj
If you are looking for glass for a fireplace, it needs to be a special
type of temperd glass that is heat resistant and able to withstand
high temps. If you are interested, we can order you some and cut it
to your sizes however, I must warn you that it is pretty expensive. I
believe it's somewhere in the $400 price range for a standard opening.
Jeff Salmeto
The Shower Door Store
Quality Shower Enclosures For Your Home
www.theshowerdoorstore.com
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| On 3 Feb 2007 12:08:16 -0800, "German Jerry" <jason@jasonshelly.com>
wrote:
>My kids accidentally broke the glass on my fireplace glass door and I
>looked around at glass shops for a replacement. I didnt realize how
>bad my damper was untill those doors were out. I ended up going a less
>expensive route and getting a chimney balloon to plug the fireplace
>chimney flue. This solved the bad damper and as for the glass doors I
>just removed them and put a candelabra in the hearth.
>I never used the fireplace much anyway, it made my home feel colder
>when I used it anyway. The only comfy spot was right in front of it.
I think you're supposed to use it before you turn on the furnace in
the fall, and after you turn it off in the spring.
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