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How to remove old black lino tile backing from pine floor before sanding?
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| bumblebee2560@gmail.com 2007-06-09, 8:25 pm |
| I've tried cold scraping, hot water....too messy, think it cools too
quickly,have to keep wiping up. hair dryer, last night tried steam
iron held just above pitchy stuff, sometimes it worked and I was able
to peel a liitle off down to floor boards but mostly some top layer
moved but then I'm left with lower layer still.
So far it looks unbeatable, then I thought maybe I'm not the only one,
so I'm hoping someone has already solved the problem in a manageable
way and can offer advice.
I understand the sanding man won't touch it as it gums up his brushes/
sander.
Hoping
Robyn
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<bumblebee2560@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1181437402.834139.249960@q19g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> I've tried cold scraping, hot water....too messy, think it cools too
> quickly,have to keep wiping up. hair dryer, last night tried steam
> iron held just above pitchy stuff, sometimes it worked and I was
> able
> to peel a liitle off down to floor boards but mostly some top layer
> moved but then I'm left with lower layer still.
> So far it looks unbeatable, then I thought maybe I'm not the only
> one,
> so I'm hoping someone has already solved the problem in a manageable
> way and can offer advice.
> I understand the sanding man won't touch it as it gums up his
> brushes/
> sander.
Heat gun? Like a hair dryer only hotter.
Ask the sanding man.
Bob
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| Steve Barker 2007-06-09, 9:25 pm |
| Get you a block of dry ice and lead the scraper with it.
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Steve Barker
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<bumblebee2560@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1181437402.834139.249960@q19g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> I've tried cold scraping, hot water....too messy, think it cools too
> quickly,have to keep wiping up. hair dryer, last night tried steam
> iron held just above pitchy stuff, sometimes it worked and I was able
> to peel a liitle off down to floor boards but mostly some top layer
> moved but then I'm left with lower layer still.
> So far it looks unbeatable, then I thought maybe I'm not the only one,
> so I'm hoping someone has already solved the problem in a manageable
> way and can offer advice.
> I understand the sanding man won't touch it as it gums up his brushes/
> sander.
> Hoping
> Robyn
>
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| On Jun 9, 9:03 pm, "bumblebee2...@gmail.com" <bumblebee2...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I've tried cold scraping, hot water....too messy, think it cools too
> quickly,have to keep wiping up. hair dryer, last night tried steam
> iron held just above pitchy stuff, sometimes it worked and I was able
> to peel a liitle off down to floor boards but mostly some top layer
> moved but then I'm left with lower layer still.
> So far it looks unbeatable, then I thought maybe I'm not the only one,
> so I'm hoping someone has already solved the problem in a manageable
> way and can offer advice.
> I understand the sanding man won't touch it as it gums up his brushes/
> sander.
> Hoping
> Robyn
To get up carpet glue on old wood floors, I use a rug shampoor. I set
the bristles all the way out, load the canister with hot water and
soap, and take my time. You can control the wetness eaily and you
have powered bristles so you don't kill yourself. Don't know if it
will work on your type of glue but it might be worth a try.
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| poison_1024@yahoo.com 2007-06-09, 9:25 pm |
| There are various products that will work on the backing but not sure
about the pine aspect. One product is available at many grocery
stores called "citra-solv" It's an orange cleaner that comes in a
very small bottle and can be quite expensive. This is not a normal
"orange cleaner." Another product that I've found is De-Solv-it.
About $7 for a spray bottle. I've used it all over concrete floors
but never on pine. I think if you worked it with a brush and then
sanded after it dries you'd be okay.
On Jun 9, 9:03 pm, "bumblebee2...@gmail.com" <bumblebee2...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I've tried cold scraping, hot water....too messy, think it cools too
> quickly,have to keep wiping up. hair dryer, last night tried steam
> iron held just above pitchy stuff, sometimes it worked and I was able
> to peel a liitle off down to floor boards but mostly some top layer
> moved but then I'm left with lower layer still.
> So far it looks unbeatable, then I thought maybe I'm not the only one,
> so I'm hoping someone has already solved the problem in a manageable
> way and can offer advice.
> I understand the sanding man won't touch it as it gums up his brushes/
> sander.
> Hoping
> Robyn
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| Big_Jake 2007-06-10, 3:25 am |
| On Jun 9, 8:03 pm, "bumblebee2...@gmail.com" <bumblebee2...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I've tried cold scraping, hot water....too messy, think it cools too
> quickly,have to keep wiping up. hair dryer, last night tried steam
> iron held just above pitchy stuff, sometimes it worked and I was able
> to peel a liitle off down to floor boards but mostly some top layer
> moved but then I'm left with lower layer still.
> So far it looks unbeatable, then I thought maybe I'm not the only one,
> so I'm hoping someone has already solved the problem in a manageable
> way and can offer advice.
> I understand the sanding man won't touch it as it gums up his brushes/
> sander.
> Hoping
> Robyn
I did this several years ago with Adhesive Remover, bought by the
gallon at Menards. It was seriously nasty stuff, containing Toluene
and MEK, I believe. Did the trick, but probably causes cancer even in
states other than CA.
JK
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| hallerb@aol.com 2007-06-10, 9:25 am |
| old tile is likekly asbestos and adhesive asbetsos too
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| hallerb@aol.com 2007-06-11, 1:25 pm |
| On Jun 11, 8:58?am, BillGill <billne...@cox.net> wrote:
> hall...@aol.com wrote:
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> Actually it is probably the old asphalt tile, and does
> not have any asbestos in it. That was what they put
> down with the black tar.
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> Bill Gill
i know of old ashalt tile that had black tar adhesive tested positive
for asbestos
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| tksirius@gmail.com 2007-06-11, 1:25 pm |
| In the good old days, EVERYTHING was made of asbestos!!
Home Depot also carries a solvent to break up the old
black cutback glue. Works OK and smells like hell.
Its going to be a project that's for sure, just make sure to get it
all out before someone comes in there to sand down those pine floors.
Get those window fans going and wear that mask!
On Jun 11, 10:36 am, "hall...@aol.com" <hall...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Jun 11, 8:58?am, BillGill <billne...@cox.net> wrote:
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> i know of old ashalt tile that had black tar adhesive tested positive
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| hallerb@aol.com 2007-06-11, 1:25 pm |
| On Jun 11, 12:07?pm, tksir...@gmail.com wrote:
> In the good old days, EVERYTHING was made of asbestos!!
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> Home Depot also carries a solvent to break up the old
> black cutback glue. Works OK and smells like hell.
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> Its going to be a project that's for sure, just make sure to get it
> all out before someone comes in there to sand down those pine floors.
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> Get those window fans going and wear that mask!
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> On Jun 11, 10:36 am, "hall...@aol.com" <hall...@aol.com> wrote:
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have it tested for asbestos, if its asbestos the worst thing you can
do is sand it.......
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| poison_1024@yahoo.com 2007-06-11, 8:25 pm |
| On Jun 11, 8:58 am, BillGill <billne...@cox.net> wrote:
> hall...@aol.com wrote:
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> Actually it is probably the old asphalt tile, and does
> not have any asbestos in it. That was what they put
> down with the black tar.
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> Bill Gill
Both the tiles and cuttback adhesive probably are asbetsos based but
to be honest - so what? Do you know how much it would cost to have
someone come in and do the exact same thing that you are going to do?
With the stuff being wet - after you apply the solvent to it - it
ain't going anywhere.
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| bumblebee2560@gmail.com 2007-06-14, 9:25 am |
| On Jun 12, 9:59 am, poison_1...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Jun 11, 8:58 am, BillGill <billne...@cox.net> wrote:
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> Both the tiles and cuttback adhesive probably are asbetsos based but
> to be honest - so what? Do you know how much it would cost to have
> someone come in and do the exact same thing that you are going to do?
> With the stuff being wet - after you apply the solvent to it - it
> ain't going anywhere.
Thank you to everyone for their imput.
I've done about half now, bit each day.
I'm using a Bosch heat gun and it's softening it enough to scrape off.
So $59 aus at Bunnings hardware, money well spent.
What an interesting site
Cheers
Robyn
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