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taxenqs@yahoo.com

2007-08-24, 5:25 pm

When a home air filter manufacturer recommends a filter change every
90 days, what duty cycle do they assume the filter wil be used?
1 hour per day?
10 hours per day?
24 hours per day?

I think they should list filter change recommendations in hours (e.g.
filter good for 300 hours of use).
(Some thermostats like my LUX have filter-life counters that show the
number of hours the filter was used since it was last changed).

.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com

2007-08-24, 5:25 pm

On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:41:03 -0700, taxenqs@yahoo.com wrote:

>When a home air filter manufacturer recommends a filter change every
>90 days, what duty cycle do they assume the filter wil be used?
>1 hour per day?
>10 hours per day?
>24 hours per day?
>
>I think they should list filter change recommendations in hours (e.g.
>filter good for 300 hours of use).
>(Some thermostats like my LUX have filter-life counters that show the
>number of hours the filter was used since it was last changed).


How's about 'change it when it's fucking dirty' ?

This will require FUCKING LOOKING AT IT once in a while, and
making a DECISION.


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shaun

2007-08-24, 5:25 pm

WHAT AN XXXXXXX

<.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:41:03 -0700, taxenqs@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
> How's about 'change it when it's fucking dirty' ?
>
> This will require FUCKING LOOKING AT IT once in a while, and
> making a DECISION.
>
>
> --
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>
> Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
> 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
> 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.'
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> Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/



Pete C.

2007-08-24, 5:25 pm

..p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
>
> On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:41:03 -0700, taxenqs@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
> How's about 'change it when it's fucking dirty' ?
>
> This will require FUCKING LOOKING AT IT once in a while, and
> making a DECISION.


Yes, looking at the filter periodically is a good idea. I've seen cheap
filters that failed and periodic inspection would catch that and limit
the damage.

Beyond that, there are a few air filter monitors available that monitor
airflow or pressure and indicate when a filter should be changed similar
to the indicators on most truck air filters these days.
.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com

2007-08-24, 5:25 pm


STOP TALKING ABOUT YOURSELF.



On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:27:37 -0400, "shaun" <nospam@nnn.com> wrote:

>WHAT AN XXXXXXX
>
><.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
>news:mbfuc3d4h6cduns3plfd10d2qrvr3hf2s9@4ax.com...
>


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2007-08-24, 5:25 pm


<taxenqs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> When a home air filter manufacturer recommends a filter change every
> 90 days, what duty cycle do they assume the filter wil be used?
> 1 hour per day?
> 10 hours per day?
> 24 hours per day?
>
> I think they should list filter change recommendations in hours (e.g.
> filter good for 300 hours of use).
> (Some thermostats like my LUX have filter-life counters that show the
> number of hours the filter was used since it was last changed).



What makes the run hours any different then days, it's still going to depend
on the environment.
(clean/dirty home, pets, return location, etc)


Mo Hoaner

2007-08-24, 5:25 pm


<taxenqs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187984463.184095.237980@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> When a home air filter manufacturer recommends a filter change every
> 90 days, what duty cycle do they assume the filter wil be used?
> 1 hour per day?
> 10 hours per day?
> 24 hours per day?


You need to change it every 90 days, unless it needs to be changed sooner,
or operating conditions result in you being able to change it less
frequently.

> I think they should list filter change recommendations in hours (e.g.
> filter good for 300 hours of use).
> (Some thermostats like my LUX have filter-life counters that show the
> number of hours the filter was used since it was last changed).


You should be able to call LUX and ask them how many hours you can go
between filter changes. After all, they put the hour meter in there, so they
should be able to tell you how to use it. But then, they don't make filters,
so their guess is as good as..... If they give any answer, and don't just
hang up on you. At least one of the manuals they have online gives their
theory as to how many hours = 90 days, and it's not any of the guesses that
you've made. So, my first answer is likely to be the most correct answer.

If you don't like these answers, you'll need a new thermostat.


2007-08-24, 5:25 pm


"Pete C." <aux3.DOH.4@snet.net> wrote in message
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> .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
>
> Yes, looking at the filter periodically is a good idea. I've seen cheap
> filters that failed and periodic inspection would catch that and limit
> the damage.
>
> Beyond that, there are a few air filter monitors available that monitor
> airflow or pressure and indicate when a filter should be changed similar
> to the indicators on most truck air filters these days.



I think everybody should install a Dwyer Magnehelic.

Then, they will not only know when it's time to change the filter, but
they'll know if they have a shitty duct system.



.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com

2007-08-24, 5:25 pm

On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:31:32 -0500, "Pete C." <aux3.DOH.4@snet.net>
wrote:

>.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
>
>Yes, looking at the filter periodically is a good idea. I've seen cheap
>filters that failed and periodic inspection would catch that and limit
>the damage.
>
>Beyond that, there are a few air filter monitors available that monitor
>airflow or pressure and indicate when a filter should be changed similar
>to the indicators on most truck air filters these days.


That's FAR too long in an HVAC unit. No way should you wait
until it's having a measurable effect on static pressue drop.

If it looks dirty - change it.

If it's been in there for six months, but looks like you put
it in last week - leave it the hell alone.

Every unit, every house, etc, will be different. Times of
year may be different, for a given installation. The key is simple,
as I said - LOOK at the damned thing once in a while. It ain't rocket
sicence.


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willshak

2007-08-24, 5:25 pm

on 8/24/2007 3:41 PM taxenqs@yahoo.com said the following:
> When a home air filter manufacturer recommends a filter change every
> 90 days, what duty cycle do they assume the filter wil be used?
> 1 hour per day?
> 10 hours per day?
> 24 hours per day?
>
> I think they should list filter change recommendations in hours (e.g.
> filter good for 300 hours of use).
>


How would the manufacturer of the filter know if you have a dirty house
or a sanitary house, or whether you lived in the dry dusty deserts of
Nevada or in a tropical region, like Florida.

> (Some thermostats like my LUX have filter-life counters that show the
> number of hours the filter was used since it was last changed).



--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
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PrecisioNmachinisT

2007-08-24, 5:25 pm


"Pete C." <aux3.DOH.4@snet.net> wrote in message
news:46CF4024.30129786@snet.net...
> .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
>
> Beyond that, there are a few air filter monitors available that monitor
> airflow or pressure and indicate when a filter should be changed similar
> to the indicators on most truck air filters these days.
>


Airflow or pressure, which one?

--


Mo Hoaner

2007-08-24, 5:25 pm


"shaun" <nospam@nnn.com> wrote in message
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> WHAT AN XXXXXXX


Is that because PJM didn't phrase the question properly for you to be able
to understand it?

Here, try this, sook:

Hoser, this will require FUCKING LOOKING AT IT once in a while, and
making a DECISION, ya goof.

[color=darkred]
> <.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
> news:mbfuc3d4h6cduns3plfd10d2qrvr3hf2s9@4ax.com...
This will require FUCKING LOOKING AT IT once in a while, and
making a DECISION.[color=darkred]


.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com

2007-08-24, 5:25 pm

On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:41:32 -0400, "Mo Hoaner" <spam@uce.gov> wrote:

>
><taxenqs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:1187984463.184095.237980@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>
>You need to change it every 90 days, unless it needs to be changed sooner,
>or operating conditions result in you being able to change it less
>frequently.


Well put, you sly bastard :-)


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Pete C.

2007-08-24, 5:25 pm

"kjpro "@ mcse.ms wrote:
>
> "Pete C." <aux3.DOH.4@snet.net> wrote in message
> news:46CF4024.30129786@snet.net...
>
> I think everybody should install a Dwyer Magnehelic.
>
> Then, they will not only know when it's time to change the filter, but
> they'll know if they have a shitty duct system.


Can you get a second mortgage for that Magnahelic?
.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com

2007-08-24, 5:25 pm

Thank you for that clarification :-)

On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 17:04:25 -0400, "Mo Hoaner" <spam@uce.gov> wrote:

>
>"shaun" <nospam@nnn.com> wrote in message
>news:8cHzi.657$tx1.457@read1.cgocable.net...
>
>Is that because PJM didn't phrase the question properly for you to be able
>to understand it?
>
>Here, try this, sook:
>
>Hoser, this will require FUCKING LOOKING AT IT once in a while, and
>making a DECISION, ya goof.
>
>
>This will require FUCKING LOOKING AT IT once in a while, and
>making a DECISION.
>


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Moe Jones

2007-08-24, 5:25 pm

taxenqs@yahoo.com wrote:
> When a home air filter manufacturer recommends a filter change every
> 90 days, what duty cycle do they assume the filter wil be used?
> 1 hour per day?
> 10 hours per day?
> 24 hours per day?
>
> I think they should list filter change recommendations in hours (e.g.
> filter good for 300 hours of use).
> (Some thermostats like my LUX have filter-life counters that show the
> number of hours the filter was used since it was last changed).


Go to http://www.generalaire.com/accessories/

They have a Air Filter Gage that you can buy form your HVAC service company
and have install it or just do it yourself.

--
Moe Jones
HVAC Service Technician
Energy Equalizers Inc.
Houston, Texas
www.EnergyEqualizers.com


Pete C.

2007-08-24, 5:25 pm

PrecisioNmachinisT wrote:
>
> "Pete C." <aux3.DOH.4@snet.net> wrote in message
> news:46CF4024.30129786@snet.net...
>
> Airflow or pressure, which one?
>
> --


Both types exist.
HeyBub

2007-08-24, 5:25 pm

kjpro @ mcse.ms wrote:
>
>
> I think everybody should install a Dwyer Magnehelic.
>
> Then, they will not only know when it's time to change the filter, but
> they'll know if they have a ****** duct system.


PLEASE refrain from the profanity. It's just not gentlemanly.


HeyBub

2007-08-24, 5:25 pm

..p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:41:03 -0700, taxenqs@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
> How's about 'change it when it's ******* dirty' ?
>
> This will require ******* LOOKING AT IT once in a while, and
> making a DECISION.


If you want to kiss me, you'll have to wash your mouth first. Preferably
with soap.


PrecisioNmachinisT

2007-08-24, 5:25 pm


"Pete C." <aux3.DOH.4@snet.net> wrote in message
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> PrecisioNmachinisT wrote:
monitor[color=darkred]
similar[color=darkred]
>
> Both types exist.


I call bullshit.

--


PrecisioNmachinisT

2007-08-24, 5:25 pm


"HeyBub" <heybubNOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> kjpro @ mcse.ms wrote:
>
> PLEASE refrain from the profanity. It's just not gentlemanly.
>


PLEASE shove it up your XXX, you fucking moron...

--




Pete C.

2007-08-24, 5:25 pm

PrecisioNmachinisT wrote:
>
> "Pete C." <aux3.DOH.4@snet.net> wrote in message
> news:46CF51FD.E62C8822@snet.net...
> monitor
> similar
>
> I call bullshit.
>
> --


You're apparently full of BS yourself then.

Here is a differential pressure type:
http://www.oxyclean.com/filter-sentry.html

Here is an airflow type: http://www.filtrometer.com/2023.html
.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com

2007-08-24, 8:25 pm

On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:49:50 -0500, "HeyBub" <heybubNOSPAM@gmail.com>
wrote:

>kjpro @ mcse.ms wrote:
>
>PLEASE refrain from the profanity. It's just not gentlemanly.
>


Fucking A right.


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.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com

2007-08-24, 8:25 pm

On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:50:34 -0500, "HeyBub" <heybubNOSPAM@gmail.com>
wrote:

>.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
>
>If you want to kiss me, you'll have to wash your mouth first. Preferably
>with soap.
>


Well, I gotta tell you- you weren't on my fucking list to
begin with.


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.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com

2007-08-24, 8:25 pm

On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:04:04 -0700, "PrecisioNmachinisT"
<precisionmachinist@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>"Pete C." <aux3.DOH.4@snet.net> wrote in message
>news:46CF51FD.E62C8822@snet.net...
>monitor
>similar
>
>I call bullshit.


Yeh, but you have his private number.

Everyone else just gets the voice mail.



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.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com

2007-08-24, 8:25 pm

On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:14:12 -0700, "PrecisioNmachinisT"
<precisionmachinist@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>"HeyBub" <heybubNOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:13cukiq4e8d6h90@news.supernews.com...
>
>PLEASE shove it up your XXX, you fucking moron...


MUCH fucking better.


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PrecisioNmachinisT

2007-08-24, 8:25 pm


"Pete C." <aux3.DOH.4@snet.net> wrote in message
news:46CF5A1B.E7DD24DB@snet.net...
> PrecisioNmachinisT wrote:
>
> You're apparently full of BS yourself then.
>
> Here is a differential pressure type:
> http://www.oxyclean.com/filter-sentry.html
>
> Here is an airflow type: http://www.filtrometer.com/2023.html


Calibration traceable to NBS standards, no doubt...

--




2007-08-24, 8:25 pm


"Pete C." <aux3.DOH.4@snet.net> wrote in message
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> "kjpro "@ mcse.ms wrote:
every[color=darkred]
(e.g.[color=darkred]
the[color=darkred]
cheap[color=darkred]
monitor[color=darkred]
similar[color=darkred]
>
> Can you get a second mortgage for that Magnahelic?



Just clarify to the loan officer how much money will be saved in operational
cost. That should get your loan approved. :-)



2007-08-24, 8:25 pm


"HeyBub" <heybubNOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> kjpro @ mcse.ms wrote:
>
> PLEASE refrain from the profanity. It's just not gentlemanly.



I'm so FUCKING sorry, please forgive me for my shitty typing.

On second thought, if you don't like it... get off the Internet...
Better yet, kill yourself, so you will never have to see or hear of those
shitty words, ever again.


U-Hate-Me

2007-08-24, 8:25 pm


"shaun" <nospam@nnn.com> wrote in message
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> WHAT AN XXXXXXX


Ya...But would you blow him?


Art

2007-08-24, 8:25 pm

By the way looking at it really doesn't tell you the condition if you have
an electrostatic filter. According to Filtrete the electronstatic fibers
loose their ability to atttrack the smallest particles before the filter is
otherwise dirty.


<taxenqs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187984463.184095.237980@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> When a home air filter manufacturer recommends a filter change every
> 90 days, what duty cycle do they assume the filter wil be used?
> 1 hour per day?
> 10 hours per day?
> 24 hours per day?
>
> I think they should list filter change recommendations in hours (e.g.
> filter good for 300 hours of use).
> (Some thermostats like my LUX have filter-life counters that show the
> number of hours the filter was used since it was last changed).
>



Telstra

2007-08-24, 8:25 pm

Based on EU-2 rated filter media with an area of 01121 square meter
and a face velocity of 2 m/s a pressure drop across the filter of 25 Pa
would indicate a clean filter.

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<taxenqs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187984463.184095.237980@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> When a home air filter manufacturer recommends a filter change every
> 90 days, what duty cycle do they assume the filter wil be used?
> 1 hour per day?
> 10 hours per day?
> 24 hours per day?
>
> I think they should list filter change recommendations in hours (e.g.
> filter good for 300 hours of use).
> (Some thermostats like my LUX have filter-life counters that show the
> number of hours the filter was used since it was last changed).
>



Pete C.

2007-08-24, 8:25 pm

PrecisioNmachinisT wrote:
>
> "Pete C." <aux3.DOH.4@snet.net> wrote in message
> news:46CF5A1B.E7DD24DB@snet.net...
>
> Calibration traceable to NBS standards, no doubt...
>
> --


NBS is history, it's NIST these days.
taxenqs@yahoo.com

2007-08-24, 8:25 pm

On Aug 24, 1:20 pm, .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:41:03 -0700, taxe...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
> How's about 'change it when it's fucking dirty' ?


No Air Filter manufacturer says that in their info sheet

.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com

2007-08-24, 9:25 pm

On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 20:16:52 -0500, "Pete C." <aux3.DOH.4@snet.net>
wrote:

>PrecisioNmachinisT wrote:
>
>NBS is history, it's NIST these days.


Just so I get it straight - is that a Socialist plot, or a
Neocon plot ? I like to know which side is doing what ....


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.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com

2007-08-24, 9:25 pm

On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 18:19:14 -0700, taxenqs@yahoo.com wrote:

>On Aug 24, 1:20 pm, .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
>
>No Air Filter manufacturer says that in their info sheet


You mean the one that says 'Change it weekly' ? :-)


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pRECISIONmachinisT

2007-08-25, 3:25 am


<.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 20:16:52 -0500, "Pete C." <aux3.DOH.4@snet.net>
> wrote:
>
that[color=darkred]
changed[color=darkred]
>
> Just so I get it straight - is that a Socialist plot, or a
> Neocon plot ? I like to know which side is doing what ....
>



What I'd like to know is whether or not fish can vomit....

( Ping Pete C.--still got your googler handy ) ???

--


Pete C.

2007-08-25, 3:25 am

pRECISIONmachinisT wrote:
>
> <.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
> news:n71vc3pgjn4un8thsa51is2iau6s9ka374@4ax.com...
> that
> changed
>
> What I'd like to know is whether or not fish can vomit....
>
> ( Ping Pete C.--still got your googler handy ) ???
>
> --


I don't "google", I Altavista.
pRECISIONmachinisT

2007-08-25, 3:25 am


"Pete C." <aux3.DOH.4@snet.net> wrote in message
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> pRECISIONmachinisT wrote:
available[color=darkred]
>
> I don't "google", I Altavista.


Okay then I'm glad that's settled...so now could you please at least give it
up already about them fucking fishes ?

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2007-08-25, 3:25 am

On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 21:57:26 -0500, "Pete C." <aux3.DOH.4@snet.net>
wrote:

>pRECISIONmachinisT wrote:
>
>I don't "google", I Altavista.


Socialist lackey.


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HeyBub

2007-08-25, 9:25 am

kjpro @ mcse.ms wrote:

>
>
> I'm so FUCKING sorry, please forgive me for my shitty typing.
>
> On second thought, if you don't like it... get off the Internet...
> Better yet, kill yourself, so you will never have to see or hear of
> those shitty words, ever again.


I am going to pray to baby Jesus for your soul.


Noon-Air

2007-08-25, 1:25 pm


<bunch 'o crap snipped>

>
> You mean the one that says 'Change it weekly' ? :-)
>


I normally recommend MERV 11 pleated filters, and change them once a month.
Ust your power bill as a reminder to change the filter. Clean filter =
better efficiency = lower bills

oh hell..... never mind, that makes too much sense


.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com

2007-08-25, 1:25 pm

On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 10:16:04 -0500, "Noon-Air" <Noon-Air@comcast.net>
wrote:

>
><bunch 'o crap snipped>
>
>
>I normally recommend MERV 11 pleated filters, and change them once a month.
>Ust your power bill as a reminder to change the filter. Clean filter =
>better efficiency = lower bills
>
>oh hell..... never mind, that makes too much sense


Check, yes, that's fine. But change whether it needs it or
not ? Waste of money.

IMO, any filter change based on arbitrary time schedules is a
waste. I've done more than my share of them ( where it wasn'y my call
as to change or not ), and I've seen plenty that needed changing
months earlier than scheduled, and plenty that the 'old' ones I took
out were indistinguishable from the new ones I put in.

'How many days has it been since the last change' is
irrelevant. The condition of the filter, which is a result of useage,
environment, etc, should be what dictates whether the CHECK results in
a CHANGE or not. There's just no sense in changing filters that look
like you took them out of the box last week, any more than leaving
cruddy ones in place because some schedule says they're good for
another month or three.


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ftwhd

2007-08-25, 1:25 pm

On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:41:03 -0700, taxenqs@yahoo.com wrote:

Fascinating filter change thread. LMAO

2007-08-25, 1:25 pm


"HeyBub" <heybubNOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:13d0c5jke7vuv05@news.supernews.com...
> kjpro @ mcse.ms wrote:
>
>
> I am going to pray to baby Jesus for your soul.



Again, I'm so sorry.

I can't believe I used words like shitty in my post.
I will try hard, not to fucking do it again, dammit!

Have a nice, wonderful, fucking day!


.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com

2007-08-25, 1:25 pm

On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 11:51:20 -0500, <kjpro @ mcse.ms> wrote:

>
>"HeyBub" <heybubNOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:13d0c5jke7vuv05@news.supernews.com...
>
>
>Again, I'm so sorry.
>
>I can't believe I used words like shitty in my post.
>I will try hard, not to fucking do it again, dammit!
>
>Have a nice, wonderful, fucking day!
>


And watch your fucking grammar.

That's 'Have a fucking wonderful nice day'. You need to watch
your fucking adverbs and your fucking adjectives.

The way you said it, it implies that he's out there someplace
fucking, and that's just not fucking right.

Also, your excessive use of fucking punctuation is fucking
shitty.


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Noon-Air

2007-08-25, 1:25 pm


<.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
news:i1q0d315bet299qvc1kbmqnjfhobnhc7u2@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 11:51:20 -0500, <kjpro @ mcse.ms> wrote:
>
>
> And watch your fucking grammar.
>
> That's 'Have a fucking wonderful nice day'. You need to watch
> your fucking adverbs and your fucking adjectives.
>
> The way you said it, it implies that he's out there someplace
> fucking, and that's just not fucking right.
>
> Also, your excessive use of fucking punctuation is fucking
> shitty.


Shit, thats some kind of fucked up


Noon-Air

2007-08-25, 1:25 pm


<.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
news:tei0d39oj6fuqp17ped00uemq97m1719ga@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 10:16:04 -0500, "Noon-Air" <Noon-Air@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> Check, yes, that's fine. But change whether it needs it or
> not ? Waste of money.
>
> IMO, any filter change based on arbitrary time schedules is a
> waste. I've done more than my share of them ( where it wasn'y my call
> as to change or not ), and I've seen plenty that needed changing
> months earlier than scheduled, and plenty that the 'old' ones I took
> out were indistinguishable from the new ones I put in.
>
> 'How many days has it been since the last change' is
> irrelevant. The condition of the filter, which is a result of useage,
> environment, etc, should be what dictates whether the CHECK results in
> a CHANGE or not. There's just no sense in changing filters that look
> like you took them out of the box last week, any more than leaving
> cruddy ones in place because some schedule says they're good for
> another month or three.


A MERV 11 filter is going to pick up a lot more dirt, dust, animal dander,
and even some mold spores, as opposed to the K-mart 3 for a dollar
fiberglass specials that *might* stop larger critters and rocks.
Even in homes that look immaculately clean, there is a lot of stuff that
gets picked up in the pleats. If you want to use the fiberglass ones, and
wait till they are stopped up, thats fine, you can do that. You can breathe
all the stuff that passes through. Personally, I change mine every month.
BTW, I have a lot of customers who have had all kinds of
respiratory/asthmatic problems for years until they started using pleated
filters and changing them every month. Once they changed to pleats, their
symptoms went away. Thats good enough for me.


.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com

2007-08-25, 5:25 pm

On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 12:54:04 -0500, "Noon-Air" <Noon-Air@comcast.net>
wrote:

>
><.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
>news:i1q0d315bet299qvc1kbmqnjfhobnhc7u2@4ax.com...
>
>Shit, thats some kind of fucked up
>


Well, I'm about as sorry as I can fucking be.


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.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com

2007-08-25, 5:25 pm

On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 13:10:35 -0500, "Noon-Air" <Noon-Air@comcast.net>
wrote:

>
><.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
>news:tei0d39oj6fuqp17ped00uemq97m1719ga@4ax.com...
[color=darkred]
>
>A MERV 11 filter is going to pick up a lot more dirt, dust, animal dander,
>and even some mold spores, as opposed to the K-mart 3 for a dollar
>fiberglass specials that *might* stop larger critters and rocks.


Contrary to the sales pitch, they don't actually do very well
with rocks.

>Even in homes that look immaculately clean, there is a lot of stuff that
>gets picked up in the pleats. If you want to use the fiberglass ones, and
>wait till they are stopped up, thats fine, you can do that. You can breathe
>all the stuff that passes through. Personally, I change mine every month.
>BTW, I have a lot of customers who have had all kinds of
>respiratory/asthmatic problems for years until they started using pleated
>filters and changing them every month. Once they changed to pleats, their
>symptoms went away. Thats good enough for me.


Oh, I'm completely in agreement on the type of filter. I use
a fiberglass in front of a 2 " pleat, the fiberglass serving to keep
the larger critters out of the pleats.

Both should be CHECKED monthly, and changed AS NEEDED.


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2007-08-25, 5:25 pm


<.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
news:dkt0d3pj22k4tocal8jq4ipbtd2hhfga0b@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 12:54:04 -0500, "Noon-Air" <Noon-Air@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> Well, I'm about as sorry as I can fucking be.



I have to say, you two are a fucking shitty influence on a guy.



U-Hate-Me

2007-08-25, 5:25 pm


"HeyBub" <heybubNOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> I am going to pray to baby Jesus for your soul.


You are a reprobate.... Whatever the fuck THAT is.

PS- I just took a shit and it looks like the baby Jesus.
Do I get a prize?


.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com

2007-08-25, 5:25 pm

On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 15:20:34 -0500, "U-Hate-Me" <U-Hate-Me@home>
wrote:

>
>"HeyBub" <heybubNOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:13d0c5jke7vuv05@news.supernews.com...
>
>You are a reprobate.... Whatever the fuck THAT is.
>
>PS- I just took a shit and it looks like the baby Jesus.
>Do I get a prize?
>


No, but you can sell it on Ebay.


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.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com

2007-08-25, 5:25 pm

On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 15:29:38 -0400, .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com
wrote:

>On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 15:20:34 -0500, "U-Hate-Me" <U-Hate-Me@home>
>wrote:
>
>
> No, but you can sell it on Ebay.


Call it ' Holy Shit'.


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Bob F

2007-08-25, 5:25 pm


"PrecisioNmachinisT" <precisionmachinist@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:MImdnRc9K_QnxVLbnZ2dnUVZWhednZ2d@scnresearch.com...
>
> "HeyBub" <heybubNOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:13cukiq4e8d6h90@news.supernews.com...
>
> PLEASE shove it up your XXX, you fucking moron...


After this post, I finally figured to look to see that this was also posted to
alt.hvac. There are a few absolute losers that think they own that group, and
homeowner questions are not appreciated by them.

Bob


.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com

2007-08-25, 5:25 pm

On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 13:35:36 -0700, "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>"PrecisioNmachinisT" <precisionmachinist@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:MImdnRc9K_QnxVLbnZ2dnUVZWhednZ2d@scnresearch.com...
>
>After this post, I finally figured to look to see that this was also posted to
>alt.hvac. There are a few absolute losers that think they own that group, and
>homeowner questions are not appreciated by them.
>
>Bob
>


You catch on fucking quick.


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U-Hate-Me

2007-08-25, 5:25 pm


<.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
news01d3dggqssdi5uuc3gijoeg7jobteo06@4ax.com...
>
> No, but you can sell it on Ebay.


Are you making an offer? Pics and samples available.


U-Hate-Me

2007-08-25, 5:25 pm


<.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
news:aa11d3dhjkiqqmhaat0odgk3pbv8kdtasd@4ax.com...
>
> Call it ' Holy Shit'.


Hahahaha! LOL


HeyBub

2007-08-25, 5:25 pm

ftwhd wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:41:03 -0700, taxenqs@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> Fascinating filter change thread. LMAO


Yes, I can't tell the difference between the placebo effect and statistical
clustering. Better check Wikipedia.


ftwhd

2007-08-25, 8:25 pm

On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 17:16:31 -0500, "HeyBub" <heybubNOSPAM@gmail.com>
wrote:

>ftwhd wrote:
>
>Yes, I can't tell the difference between the placebo effect and statistical
>clustering. Better check Wikipedia.
>

Well thats what happens when you only have one person in the group
that knows about pressure drop. 40 plus brain dead posts on filter
changes.. l
Mo Hoaner

2007-08-25, 8:25 pm


"Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:HMadncF7CLyrCE3bnZ2dnUVZ_uSgnZ2d@comcast.com...

>
> After this post, I finally figured to look to see that this was also
> posted to alt.hvac. There are a few absolute losers that think they own
> that group, and homeowner questions are not appreciated by them.
>
> Bob
>

Hey, aren't you due for Mount St. Helens to completely plug your filter, and
other orifices?


2007-08-26, 3:25 am


"Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:HMadncF7CLyrCE3bnZ2dnUVZ_uSgnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
> "PrecisioNmachinisT" <precisionmachinist@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:MImdnRc9K_QnxVLbnZ2dnUVZWhednZ2d@scnresearch.com...
but[color=darkred]
>
> After this post, I finally figured to look to see that this was also

posted to
> alt.hvac. There are a few absolute losers that think they own that group,

and
> homeowner questions are not appreciated by them.



I guess you missed my first reply, where I answered the OP's question.

It was one of your groupies that bitched about me using the word shitty.
Ooops, I used it again.

I'm fucking sorry!


2007-08-26, 3:25 am


<.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
news01d3dggqssdi5uuc3gijoeg7jobteo06@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 15:20:34 -0500, "U-Hate-Me" <U-Hate-Me@home>
> wrote:
>
>
> No, but you can sell it on Ebay.



Isn't that the shitty truth.



pRECISIONmachinisT

2007-08-26, 3:25 am


"Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:HMadncF7CLyrCE3bnZ2dnUVZ_uSgnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
> "PrecisioNmachinisT" <precisionmachinist@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:MImdnRc9K_QnxVLbnZ2dnUVZWhednZ2d@scnresearch.com...
but[color=darkred]
>
> After this post, I finally figured to look to see that this was also

posted to
> alt.hvac. There are a few absolute losers that think they own that group,

and
> homeowner questions are not appreciated by them.
>
>


Not about that at all, ( you idiot ) ..

Rather, it's about self proclaimed usenet "language police"..

When someone dies and leaves "HeyBub" or anyone else in charge of usenet
then perhaps maybe there will be something more substantial to discuss on
the topic.

Until then appreciate go elsewhere and beat your fucking head against the
wall or something.

--



Bob Pietrangelo

2007-08-27, 5:25 pm

"HeyBub" <heybubNOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:13d0c5jke7vuv05@news.supernews.com...
> kjpro @ mcse.ms wrote:
>
>
> I am going to pray to baby Jesus for your soul.


Jesus is not a baby anymore!


Tekkie®

2007-08-28, 9:25 pm

taxenqs@yahoo.com wrote:
> When a home air filter manufacturer recommends a filter change every
> 90 days, what duty cycle do they assume the filter wil be used?
> 1 hour per day?
> 10 hours per day?
> 24 hours per day?
>
> I think they should list filter change recommendations in hours (e.g.
> filter good for 300 hours of use).
> (Some thermostats like my LUX have filter-life counters that show the
> number of hours the filter was used since it was last changed).
>

THe AFI recommends every 3000 miles.
Tekkie®

2007-08-28, 9:25 pm

Art wrote:
> By the way looking at it really doesn't tell you the condition if you have
> an electrostatic filter. According to Filtrete the electronstatic fibers
> loose their ability to atttrack the smallest particles before the filter is
> otherwise dirty.
>

Hey Farty it's LOSE their ability. The only thing loose is your
(implied) brain because it is rattling...
Tekkie®

2007-08-28, 9:25 pm

Noon-Air wrote:
> <bunch 'o crap snipped>
>
>
> I normally recommend MERV 11 pleated filters, and change them once a month.
> Ust your power bill as a reminder to change the filter. Clean filter =
> better efficiency = lower bills
>
> oh hell..... never mind, that makes too much sense
>
>

Is that MERV Griffin? He's went code-7, oos, snake eyes, rolled a seven..
Tekkie®

2007-08-28, 9:25 pm

Noon-Air wrote:
> <.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
> news:tei0d39oj6fuqp17ped00uemq97m1719ga@4ax.com...
>
> A MERV 11 filter is going to pick up a lot more dirt, dust, animal dander,
> and even some mold spores, as opposed to the K-mart 3 for a dollar
> fiberglass specials that *might* stop larger critters and rocks.
> Even in homes that look immaculately clean, there is a lot of stuff that
> gets picked up in the pleats. If you want to use the fiberglass ones, and
> wait till they are stopped up, thats fine, you can do that. You can breathe
> all the stuff that passes through. Personally, I change mine every month.
> BTW, I have a lot of customers who have had all kinds of
> respiratory/asthmatic problems for years until they started using pleated
> filters and changing them every month. Once they changed to pleats, their
> symptoms went away. Thats good enough for me.
>
>

I have to have pleats in my pants to provide a home for an overgrown
trouser snake.
Tekkie®

2007-08-28, 9:25 pm

Bob F wrote:
> "PrecisioNmachinisT" <precisionmachinist@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:MImdnRc9K_QnxVLbnZ2dnUVZWhednZ2d@scnresearch.com...
>
> After this post, I finally figured to look to see that this was also posted to
> alt.hvac. There are a few absolute losers that think they own that group, and
> homeowner questions are not appreciated by them.
>
> Bob
>
>

Took you a LOOOOOOONG time didn't it? Proves you aren't the brightest
buld in the chandelier especially during the brown out.
Tekkie®

2007-08-28, 9:25 pm

Mo Hoaner wrote:
> "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:HMadncF7CLyrCE3bnZ2dnUVZ_uSgnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
> Hey, aren't you due for Mount St. Helens to completely plug your filter, and
> other orifices?
>
>

heh heh heh there's that word again: orifices
SteveB

2007-08-29, 3:25 am


"Noon-Air" <Noon-Air@comcast.net> wrote

> I normally recommend MERV 11 pleated filters, and change them once a
> month. Ust your power bill as a reminder to change the filter. Clean
> filter = better efficiency = lower bills
>
> oh hell..... never mind, that makes too much sense


This is one of the discussions on usenet like, "What's the weather going to
be like tomorrow?"

Well, don't that depend on where you live?

I have friends North of San Diego who don't even have an AC system. A
million dollar house, and it sits on a small mountain near Bonsall, and it's
always nice temps there.

I live in the desert in Las Vegas. Only the homeless don't have AC units.

And even here, there's months when we hardly run the heat pump. Some times
we use the swam coolers.

So, do I need to change the AC filter once a month when I don't even kick it
on? I don't think so, Tim.

I LOOK at the filter. I know that is unacceptable for multitaskers and the
anal, but it works for me. If it needs changing, change it. But why waste
money on the decent pleated filters when you are taking out a clean one to
put a new one in?

This is a question that has only ONE logical answer.

Change it when it's dirty. If you can't remember to at least look at it
once a month, you need to slow your life down.

Multitasking - Being able to do more than one thing at a time, but not being
able to do at least one of them worth a flying fuck.

Steve


.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com

2007-08-29, 3:25 am

On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 20:46:10 -0600, "SteveB" <oldfart@flatulence.com>
wrote:

>
>"Noon-Air" <Noon-Air@comcast.net> wrote
>
>
>This is one of the discussions on usenet like, "What's the weather going to
>be like tomorrow?"
>
>Well, don't that depend on where you live?
>
>I have friends North of San Diego who don't even have an AC system. A
>million dollar house, and it sits on a small mountain near Bonsall, and it's
>always nice temps there.


In that location, at that price, it's 500 sq ft.


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kpg*

2007-08-29, 1:25 pm

taxenqs@yahoo.com wrote in news:1187984463.184095.237980
@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com:

> When a home air filter manufacturer recommends a filter change every
> 90 days, what duty cycle do they assume the filter wil be used?
> 1 hour per day?
> 10 hours per day?
> 24 hours per day?
>
> I think they should list filter change recommendations in hours (e.g.
> filter good for 300 hours of use).
> (Some thermostats like my LUX have filter-life counters that show the
> number of hours the filter was used since it was last changed).


These ratings are (I'm guessing) the result of internal standards
used by the manufacturer and are mainly designed to allow comparison
between their products and for advertising (you are more likely to
purchase a filter that needs changed less often, even if more
expensive).

In practice (as the owner of t dogs, 4 cats and 2 kids) I find that
every week the filter needs a good vacuuming and every month it
needs replacing - irregardless of what the package says. Point is
you need to determine what is normal for your situation and stick
to that.

I purchase the higher quality filters that claim to reduce allergens.
They are considerably more expensive (about 12 bucks) but do seem
to reduce dust in the house. Ironically the 'better' filters
would need changing more often.

Note that there are available reusable filters that you can hose
off once a month.



Stormin Mormon \(on backup computer\)

2007-08-29, 8:25 pm

You have to peek in to see.... if it's poopy, change it more often.

--

Christopher A. Young
(Using backup computer. In a couple
days I will be back on my regular
email adress.)
..
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<taxenqs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> When a home air filter manufacturer recommends a filter change every
> 90 days, what duty cycle do they assume the filter wil be used?
> 1 hour per day?
> 10 hours per day?
> 24 hours per day?
>
> I think they should list filter change recommendations in hours (e.g.
> filter good for 300 hours of use).
> (Some thermostats like my LUX have filter-life counters that show the
> number of hours the filter was used since it was last changed).
>



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