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hallerb@aol.com

2008-02-02, 9:25 pm

call your homeowners insurance company see if they cover K&T wiring...
it might bring a visit by the company but thats better than finding
out after a fire
dpb

2008-02-03, 1:25 pm

hallerb@aol.com wrote:
> call your homeowners insurance company see if they cover K&T wiring...

....

If they wrote the policy, they cover it...quit the d---'d FUD crap.

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dpb

2008-02-04, 3:25 am

hallerb@aol.com wrote:
> On Feb 3, 12:32�pm, dpb <n...@non.net> wrote:
> today insurance companies go out of their way to not pay off, and some
> people dont inform their insurers of risks till a fire occurs, then
> insurance researches the owners activities, and occasionally doesnt pay


Unless the homeowner deliberately conceals a situation, there's no basis
for not paying the claim.

You've been afforded the opportunity to previously document a single
verifiable case of the above problem.

It is nothing but FUD.

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RBM

2008-02-04, 1:25 pm


"dpb" <none@non.net> wrote in message news:fo65u4$fd8$1@aioe.org...
> hallerb@aol.com wrote:
>
> Unless the homeowner deliberately conceals a situation, there's no basis
> for not paying the claim.
>
> You've been afforded the opportunity to previously document a single
> verifiable case of the above problem.
>
> It is nothing but FUD.
>
> --Of course, this is the same nonsense from a guy who compares an
> insulated copper wire to a car. " How old is your car" and other silliness



dpb

2008-02-04, 1:25 pm

hallerb@aol.com wrote:
....

> shall we discuss how insurance is supposed to cover storm damage, ...


No. (No bearing on previous FUD, but a different one.)

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dpb

2008-02-04, 1:25 pm

hallerb@aol.com wrote:
> On Feb 4, 9:36�am, dpb <n...@non.net> wrote:
>
> that did indeed make the news not long ago, today insurance does
> whatever it can to avoid paying claims.


Insurance pays for what is covered -- what isn't covered isn't paid for.
Some insurers are easier to work with than others--just as any other
area of human interaction.

> I noted you made no comment on all the other related issues i raised.


Because they had nothing to do w/ the initial complaint and are a common
tactic of the weak argument -- when no recourse on the subject at hand,
bring in another.

> why should K&T last forever while everything else in the home gets
> replaced on a regular basis?


Again, nothing to do w/ the question at hand...

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RBM

2008-02-04, 1:25 pm


"dpb" <none@non.net> wrote in message news:fo79nu$pmc$1@aioe.org...
> hallerb@aol.com wrote:
>
> Insurance pays for what is covered -- what isn't covered isn't paid for.
> Some insurers are easier to work with than others--just as any other area
> of human interaction.
>
>
> Because they had nothing to do w/ the initial complaint and are a common
> tactic of the weak argument -- when no recourse on the subject at hand,
> bring in another.
>
>
> Again, nothing to do w/ the question at hand...


Every time I read his rediculous posts, my computer plays Twilight Zone
music, I don't get it



>
> --



dpb

2008-02-04, 1:25 pm

RBM wrote:
....

> Every time I read his rediculous posts, my computer plays Twilight Zone
> music, I don't get it


Maybe you need a new roll of tin foil...

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S. Barker

2008-02-04, 9:25 pm

We balance tires, rotate tires, change oil, grease, tune up, replace tires,
replace brake pads, replace light bulbs, wax the exterior, vacuum the
carpet, replace wiper blades, replace the windshield when it gets broken or
pitted, change air filter, change oil filter, replenish wiper fluid, check
and change automatic trans fluid, and probably a hundred other things we do
to our automobiles.

But, i've never heard of re-wiring one just because it got old. It's not a
viable argument.


s


<hallerb@aol.com> wrote in message
news:bc0e6742-f061-4d6f-b90d-f988afb8dd5e@z17g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 4, 9:36?am, dpb <n...@non.net> wrote:
> hall...@aol.com wrote:
>
> ...
>
>
> No. ?(No bearing on previous FUD, but a different one.)
>
> --


that did indeed make the news not long ago, today insurance does
whatever it can to avoid paying claims.

I noted you made no comment on all the other related issues i raised.

why should K&T last forever while everything else in the home gets
replaced on a regular basis?


Nate Nagel

2008-02-05, 8:25 pm

S. Barker wrote:
> We balance tires, rotate tires, change oil, grease, tune up, replace tires,
> replace brake pads, replace light bulbs, wax the exterior, vacuum the
> carpet, replace wiper blades, replace the windshield when it gets broken or
> pitted, change air filter, change oil filter, replenish wiper fluid, check
> and change automatic trans fluid, and probably a hundred other things we do
> to our automobiles.
>
> But, i've never heard of re-wiring one just because it got old. It's not a
> viable argument.


Actually the automotive analogy is a good one *for* replacing K&T. Most
cloth covered auto wiring is no longer suitable for service and will
crumble if disturbed. Granted, that was being phased out by the
mid-50's but then again most K&T was installed prior to that. The only
thing making it not a perfect argument *for* replacing K&T is that an
automotive environment is much harsher on the insulation than is the
inside of a wall.

I'm not one to replace things for the sake of replacing them (I did
salvage the harness in my '55 STudebaker by judicious patching) but old
cloth covered auto harnesses are something to be concerned about. You
might find one that is still OK but I would bet that most that still
remain will not be so if one disturbs it significantly.

nate

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