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GE Front Loading Washer - Detergent still present after cycle
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| Saucer Man 2008-02-10, 8:25 pm |
| After a wash cycle, I still have soap in the washer. I have to run several
rinses or a couple washs with no detergent to get rid of it. I am using
extremely little detergent. Much less then what is called for.
So far I checked the screens in the hose lines to see if they were clogged.
They were clean. I ran some powdered Cascade thru the washer. I was told
this trick removes the detergent build-up inside. It didn't help. The
service man want about $80 just to look at it.
Has anyone ever had this problem or does anyone know what is actually
causing this so I can attempt to fix it myself?
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| On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 19:17:07 -0500, "Saucer Man"
<saucerman@nospam.net> wrote:
>After a wash cycle, I still have soap in the washer. I have to run several
>rinses or a couple washs with no detergent to get rid of it. I am using
>extremely little detergent. Much less then what is called for.
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>So far I checked the screens in the hose lines to see if they were clogged.
>They were clean. I ran some powdered Cascade thru the washer. I was told
>this trick removes the detergent build-up inside. It didn't help. The
>service man want about $80 just to look at it.
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>Has anyone ever had this problem or does anyone know what is actually
>causing this so I can attempt to fix it myself?
Stop using powder products, best I can tell.
Oren
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| Rick Blaine 2008-02-10, 8:25 pm |
| "Saucer Man" <saucerman@nospam.net> wrote:
>After a wash cycle, I still have soap in the washer. I have to run several
>rinses or a couple washs with no detergent to get rid of it. I am using
>extremely little detergent. Much less then what is called for.
Front loader or recent top loader? You almost certainly have not been using a
low sudsing detergent (branded these days with the "he" logo or the words "high
efficiency"). Using less of a standard detergent is _not_ a good solution. It
won't clear the washer (as you discovered) and it does not remove the soil from
clothing.
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| "Saucer Man" <saucerman@nospam.net> wrote in
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Are you using "HE" Detergent? I suppose probably not. I don't use it,
but use the "Ultra" detergents which are supposed to be almost the same
(low sudsing). Even so, a front load like that is VERY sensitive to
detergent amounts, especially for really small amounts. I bet that even
though you are using very little, that it's still too much, or maybe you
are just using regular detergent, and that it's still too much. I've
never tried using Regular detergent, and you aren't supposed to, nor are
you really supposed to use "Ultra" detergent. If you are using regular
detergent, try Ultra, or better yet "HE" detergent. If you are already
using "Ultra", try using less. If you are using "HE" then I don't know,
because I've run very little of that and don't know how it behaves.
I hope this helps,
Danny
> After a wash cycle, I still have soap in the washer. I have to run
> several rinses or a couple washs with no detergent to get rid of it.
> I am using extremely little detergent. Much less then what is called
> for.
>
> So far I checked the screens in the hose lines to see if they were
> clogged. They were clean. I ran some powdered Cascade thru the
> washer. I was told this trick removes the detergent build-up inside.
> It didn't help. The service man want about $80 just to look at it.
>
> Has anyone ever had this problem or does anyone know what is actually
> causing this so I can attempt to fix it myself?
>
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| Rick Blaine 2008-02-10, 8:25 pm |
| Danny <nm_courseREMOVE@yahoo.com> wrote:
>"Ultra" detergents which are supposed to be almost the same
>(low sudsing).
Not that I've seen. The ultra detergents just have less water in them making
them more concentrated. Being ultra does not make them low sudsing, which is
what you need for the newer washers.
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| Rick Blaine <dont@bother.com> wrote in
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> Danny <nm_courseREMOVE@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Not that I've seen. The ultra detergents just have less water in them
> making them more concentrated. Being ultra does not make them low
> sudsing, which is what you need for the newer washers.
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Rick,
I think you have a point. For a while now, before you had pointed this
out, I had wondered if I saw some bad information on the internet. I
had read some postings that "Ultra" was supposed to be low sudsing, but
actual use does not seem to bear this out, and I'm going to switch to
"HE" like you are supposed to use, I just haven't been able to because
the bargain grocery store that I shop at never has the HE Detergents,
and there was a medical problem in the family now for a while that has
kept me from looking elsewhere due to time. I'll look this week for some
of the HE,and I'm sure I'll notice a difference. I would bet that the
orignal poster is using Ultra or Regular detergents and I can tell you
that even using miniscule amounts of detergent can result in too much
suds. That can't have been allowing as much cleaning as I could have
gotten with the correct detergent. I'll be interested to see if the
poster will tell us what detergent that he's been using.
Danny
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| JoeSpareBedroom 2008-02-10, 8:25 pm |
| "Danny" <nm_courseREMOVE@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Rick Blaine <dont@bother.com> wrote in
> news:qbbvq3lqiju8fmu5pgvhrqjmf09r6roqds@4ax.com:
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> Rick,
> I think you have a point. For a while now, before you had pointed this
> out, I had wondered if I saw some bad information on the internet. I
> had read some postings that "Ultra" was supposed to be low sudsing, but
> actual use does not seem to bear this out......
Read the labels for the "ultra" products would've conveyed the correct
information. I wonder why you'd consult the internet rather than read the
labels.
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| Nexus7 2008-02-10, 9:25 pm |
| On Feb 10, 8:21 pm, Danny <nm_courseREM...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> orignal poster is using Ultra or Regular detergents and I can tell you
> that even using miniscule amounts of detergent can result in too much
> suds.
Now now, I don't think they are that sensitive. When I first got my FL
washer, I used detergent bought for my old TL washer on collars and
stained areas. I sprayed it on, but did that for almost every item (I
wanted to finish the regular detergent). I suppose my washer might
have sudsing and level control.
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| Nexus7 <ac25kV@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:01e6f30e-6acd-41f6-bf39-47831ffdaa23@i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
> On Feb 10, 8:21 pm, Danny <nm_courseREM...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Now now, I don't think they are that sensitive. When I first got my FL
> washer, I used detergent bought for my old TL washer on collars and
> stained areas. I sprayed it on, but did that for almost every item (I
> wanted to finish the regular detergent). I suppose my washer might
> have sudsing and level control.
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>
On mine, if I happen to have an emergency and have to throw in say, a
couple of shirts that I might need to go somewhere, what seems to me to
be about like about 1/2 teaspoon might make it pretty sudsy and do ok,
or possibly foam over, but I've never measured it, so I'm going by a
visual guestimate. I also have one of the small (normal sized for
Europe) front load models, which might make a difference in comparison
to those that are using something like a full size American Front Load
Model.
Danny
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| Rick Blaine 2008-02-11, 3:25 am |
| Danny <nm_courseREMOVE@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On mine, if I happen to have an emergency and have to throw in say, a
>couple of shirts that I might need to go somewhere, what seems to me to
>be about like about 1/2 teaspoon might make it pretty sudsy and do ok,
>or possibly foam over
The presence of suds in modern laundry detergent is a marketing device and not
an indication of how clean your clothes are getting. Putting a half teaspoon of
detergent in a washer is not doing much more than washing in plain water.
In fact, that was the basis of those magic "laundry balls" someone was selling a
few years ago. They were taking advantage of the residual detergent left in the
clothing after a standard washer cycle and made people believe they were getting
some magical cleaning action.
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| Rick Blaine 2008-02-11, 3:25 am |
| Rick Blaine <dont@bother.com> wrote:
>In fact, that was the basis of those magic "laundry balls" someone was selling a
>few years ago. They were taking advantage of the residual detergent left in the
>clothing after a standard washer cycle and made people believe they were getting
>some magical cleaning action.
Gak! A quick Google search shows that these things are still being marketed.
Barnum _was_ right....
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| JoeSpareBedroom 2008-02-11, 3:25 am |
| "Rick Blaine" <dont@bother.com> wrote in message
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> Rick Blaine <dont@bother.com> wrote:
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> Gak! A quick Google search shows that these things are still being
> marketed.
> Barnum _was_ right....
So are Beanie Babies, which were going to become INSTANT COLLECTOR'S
ITEMS!!!
Oh boy.
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| Rick Blaine <dont@bother.com> wrote in
news:dmjvq31shhlu1aglcc69oud7grq95flkak@4ax.com:
> The presence of suds in modern laundry detergent is a marketing device
> and not an indication of how clean your clothes are getting. Putting a
> half teaspoon of detergent in a washer is not doing much more than
> washing in plain water.
>
If I put more in and make it clean well, it foams over and out of the
machine, which would be a good indication of what I said before, that I
need to switch to "HE", which is what I should have been using before,
correct? 
Danny
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| Rick Blaine 2008-02-11, 9:25 am |
| Danny <nm_courseREMOVE@yahoo.com> wrote:
>If I put more in and make it clean well, it foams over and out of the
>machine, which would be a good indication of what I said before, that I
>need to switch to "HE", which is what I should have been using before,
>correct?
Correct!
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| Saucer Man 2008-02-11, 5:25 pm |
| Sorry for not mentioning this in the OP but I am using HE detergent. I am
using TIDE HE 2x Concentrate Liquid. I only put enough detergent in to
cover the plastic on the bottom of the detergent tray. Probably about 1/16"
deep.
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Thanks.
"Rick Blaine" <dont@bother.com> wrote in message
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> "Saucer Man" <saucerman@nospam.net> wrote:
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> Front loader or recent top loader? You almost certainly have not been
> using a
> low sudsing detergent (branded these days with the "he" logo or the words
> "high
> efficiency"). Using less of a standard detergent is _not_ a good solution.
> It
> won't clear the washer (as you discovered) and it does not remove the soil
> from
> clothing.
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| JoeSpareBedroom 2008-02-11, 5:25 pm |
| "Saucer Man" <saucerman@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> Sorry for not mentioning this in the OP but I am using HE detergent. I am
> using TIDE HE 2x Concentrate Liquid. I only put enough detergent in to
> cover the plastic on the bottom of the detergent tray. Probably about
> 1/16" deep.
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> Thanks.
Got a water softener?
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| Saucer Man 2008-02-11, 9:25 pm |
| No I don't. I have a well which I will be chlorinating soon.
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Thanks.
"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Saucer Man" <saucerman@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> Got a water softener?
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