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Moles! Traps are banned :(

peter

2008-03-28, 5:25 pm

Mole traps are banned in my state (WA).

I tried mole baits, sulphur dioxide smoke bomb to no avail. What should I
try next?

Is there a way to detect where the mole is under the lawn?

bob kater

2008-03-28, 5:25 pm

I heard this and have been using it. Does it seem to work????? yes.
juicy fruit gum (spearamint) cut in to small pieces and inserted in the
burrows without human touch (I use a knife and tweezers untouched) works
They eat the gum but supposedly cannot digest it and die. If they smell a
human on the gum it does not work.
Or>>>>>>> spray the yard for grubs, and or spread diazinon to kill the
grubs. No food they move on. If you have pets etc the spray is best as it
soaks in after a rain. Problem is with the gum is that you have to outkill
the population explosion. and they do come back.
"peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:N%aHj.19$lV1.4@trndny06...
> Mole traps are banned in my state (WA).
>
> I tried mole baits, sulphur dioxide smoke bomb to no avail. What should I
> try next?
>
> Is there a way to detect where the mole is under the lawn?
>

gpsman

2008-03-28, 5:25 pm

On Mar 28, 2:43 pm, "peter" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
> Mole traps are banned in my state (WA).
>
> I tried mole baits, sulphur dioxide smoke bomb to no avail. What should I
> try next?

There are only two practical methods to get rid of moles: kill what
they eat, or get an animal that likes to hunt and kill them.

Period.

> Is there a way to detect where the mole is under the lawn?

You can often see the earth moving above them, and stab in a shovel
and flip them out. Ineffective for population control unless you have
only two, but entertaining, if you're easily entertained.
-----

- gpsman

Dave Bugg

2008-03-28, 5:25 pm

bob kater wrote:
> I heard this and have been using it. Does it seem to work????? yes.
> juicy fruit gum (spearamint) cut in to small pieces and inserted in
> the burrows without human touch (I use a knife and tweezers
> untouched) works They eat the gum but supposedly cannot digest it and
> die.

Gum doesn't work.
http://gardening.wsu.edu/library/lawn001/lawn001.htm

http://tomclothier.hort.net/page39.html

http://www.dumville.org/moles/charron.html "Chewing gum ingested by a mole
will not gunk up his internal works and cause him to explode, despite the
popular notion that it will. No mole in his right mind will eat chewing gum,
especially with the smorgasbord of delights (slugs, ants, grubs) routinely
spread before him. Moles eat insects and invertebrates. They do not eat
chewing gum, Alka-Seltzer, boric acid, soap powder, Drano, steel wool,
ground glass and the like. Moles are nearly blind but they are not stupid. "

http://www.molepro.com/support/comm.../products.htm#2 The idea
here is the mole will ingest the gum and choke to death as a result. Not
only have we never seen proof this method works, but one must have serious
doubts as to whether a carnivorous animal will be prone to eating gum. Not
one of the more plausible methods.

http://antiquemommy.typepad.com/ant...ofer_that_.html
The chewing gum didn’t work. The moles continue to destroy our yard, except
for now they are doing it with minty fresh breath.

http://extension.missouri.edu/explo...life/g09440.htm
Unfortunately, there are no "short cuts" or "magic wands" when controlling
moles. Some garden experts, frustrated by lack of knowledge about trapping,
recommend the use of chewing gum inserted in mole burrows. There is no proof
that this is effective and on a trial basis it has proven ineffective.

http://counties.cce.cornell.edu/suf...nimal/moles.htm One of
the most common of these surefire remedies has been to place chewing gum in
the burrow. Research has shown that doing so has no effect on moles even if
they eat it.

--
Dave
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."

Dave Bugg

2008-03-28, 5:25 pm

peter wrote:
> Mole traps are banned in my state (WA).

I use them here anyway.

--
Dave
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."

Robert Neville

2008-03-28, 5:25 pm

"peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

>Mole traps are banned in my state (WA).
>
>I tried mole baits, sulphur dioxide smoke bomb to no avail. What should I
>try next?

I think there were a couple of guys using a propane injector recently that
sounded really cool. You inject propane mixed with oxygen into the tunnel and
ignite it. The subsequent shockwave / flame wall apparently wipes the varmits
out.

Unfortunately, if you aren't really careful, the collateral damage can be a
problem.

Ah! Here you go: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/...toryId=89100065

HeyBub

2008-03-28, 5:25 pm

peter wrote:
> Mole traps are banned in my state (WA).
>
> I tried mole baits, sulphur dioxide smoke bomb to no avail. What
> should I try next?
>
> Is there a way to detect where the mole is under the lawn?

Can't you call them "rat traps" or "alien invader detection system"?

Calcium Carbide is an anti-molant. Throw some pebbles down the mole-hole.
Add water. This forms acetylene gas.

Wait.

Throw match down the mole-hole.

Instant Holy Moleys.

S. Barker

2008-03-28, 5:25 pm

Mole traps are banned!? Now just WHO is enforcing this in your backyard?

that's almost the most rediculous thing i've ever heard.

But as far as the moles are concerned, get rid of the grub worms and the
moles will move on. Treat the lawn for grubs.

s

"peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:N%aHj.19$lV1.4@trndny06...
> Mole traps are banned in my state (WA).
>
> I tried mole baits, sulphur dioxide smoke bomb to no avail. What should I
> try next?
>
> Is there a way to detect where the mole is under the lawn?
>

Dave Bugg

2008-03-28, 5:25 pm

S. Barker wrote:
> Mole traps are banned!? Now just WHO is enforcing this in your
> backyard?
> that's almost the most rediculous thing i've ever heard.

Washington State's Puget Sound Metropolitan Area: "Giving San Francisco a
run for the title of 'LeftTard Capital of the West Coast' since 1968".

--
Dave
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."

Oren

2008-03-28, 8:25 pm

On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:43:57 GMT, "peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

>Mole traps are banned in my state (WA).
>
>I tried mole baits, sulphur dioxide smoke bomb to no avail. What should I
>try next?
>
>Is there a way to detect where the mole is under the lawn?
>

Okay, Peter. When you see small mounds of dirt snaking across the lawn
- you may have a mole.

Piss in the yard to collapse the tunnel.

If you are nervous about being seen; collect urine samples, and then
apply liberally.

The mole will move next door.

Oren

2008-03-28, 9:25 pm

On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 22:01:49 GMT, "Dave Bugg" <davebugg2@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>S. Barker wrote:
>
>Washington State's Puget Sound Metropolitan Area: "Giving San Francisco a
>run for the title of 'LeftTard Capital of the West Coast' since 1968".

9th Circus of Appeals?!

San Francisco got first vote and San Diego ended up with all the
lawyers.

peter

2008-04-03, 3:25 am

Anyone tried passing electric current into the soil via metal rods? I wonder
how much current I can pass into the soil before the grass starts to die.

RobertPatrick

2008-04-03, 3:25 am

"peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in news:yTYIj.12951$Eq.5791@trnddc05:

> Anyone tried passing electric current into the soil via metal rods? I
> wonder how much current I can pass into the soil before the grass
> starts to die.
>
>
>

I got a catalog in the mail the other day. I imagine other places have it
for sale, too.

http://www.drpower.com

Windmill Mole Chaser

Eliminate moles without chemicals or traps

Moles will move out fast once they hear the ground-penetrating noise
created by this windmill-like fan. Although silent above ground, the
windmill creates a vibration underground that moles can’t stand. Made of
rust proof, zinc-plated steel. Requires 8 feet of galvanized pipe (not
included). 18"l x 20"w.

Slim61

2008-04-03, 3:25 am

On Mar 28, 2:43=A0pm, "peter" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
> Mole traps are banned in my state (WA).
>
> I tried mole baits, sulphur dioxide smoke bomb to no avail. What should I
> try next?
>
> Is there a way to detect where the mole is under the lawn?

Go to Northern Tool dot com and type in "Solar Moler." I have 3 in my
yard & have not had moles in a year. Read the reviews caretully as
some people did not have any luck. For me they are great!

Smitty Two

2008-04-03, 9:25 am

In article <014bc05b$0$8654$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>,
RobertPatrick <rp@nospammingg.com> wrote:

> "peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in news:yTYIj.12951$Eq.5791@trnddc05:
>
>
> I got a catalog in the mail the other day. I imagine other con men have it
> for sale, too.

>
> Snakeoil Mole Chaser
>
> Eliminate money from your wallet without chemicals or traps
>
> Moles will not give a rat's XXX about the ground-penetrating noise
> created by this windmill-like fan. Although silent above ground, the
> windmill creates a vibration underground that reminds moles of being
> rocked in the cradle.
> Made of recycled Shlitz cans. About as useful as shoving 8 feet of
> galvanized pipe up your XXX.

..

ds549@webtv.net

2008-04-03, 1:26 pm

if traps are banned,i guess youll have to live with the moles.my
neighbor runs an engine exhuast into the tunnells and runs for hours, i
just trap them.... what happened in wa to get traps banned, ??? a love
of the moles or a terrible human tragedy caused by mole trap??

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letterman@invalid.com

2008-04-03, 5:25 pm

On 03 Apr 2008 06:09:11 GMT, RobertPatrick <rp@nospammingg.com> wrote:

>"peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in news:yTYIj.12951$Eq.5791@trnddc05:
>
>
>I got a catalog in the mail the other day. I imagine other places have it
>for sale, too.
>
>http://www.drpower.com
>
>Windmill Mole Chaser
>
>Eliminate moles without chemicals or traps
>
>Moles will move out fast once they hear the ground-penetrating noise
>created by this windmill-like fan. Although silent above ground, the
>windmill creates a vibration underground that moles can’t stand. Made of
>rust proof, zinc-plated steel. Requires 8 feet of galvanized pipe (not
>included). 18"l x 20"w.

Someone told me to put LYE in their hole, and it will kill them. I
have not tried it yet, but plan to give it a try. I'm not sure where
to buy the lye yet.

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