quote:

---

> Hi all,
>
> I'm not an architect but due to professional reasons I had to start
> learning
> some of the architecture basics. Now I need to use a 3D software which
> allows me to create a building and walk around it, seeing all the internal
> and external details.
>
> I've tried the 3D Home Architect Deluxe 6 but the "walk around" tool is
> not
> working good for me, since the navigation is done with the mouse. Could
> someone here please tell me what's the best software available for this
> purpose? The me is being able to create any kind of building and being
> able
> to walk all around it in 3D.
>
> I'd also ask you people to point some sites where I could learn more about
> those 3D softwares and the architecture basics. I'm a complete newbie.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> John Silva
>
>

quote:

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> See the FAQ's... they'll likely be posted as soon as the "keeper of the
> faq's" logs onto his PC ;-)
>
> "John Silva" <shredman2004@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:d37m1q$pd2$1@domitilla.aioe.org...
>

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> He's 3 hours behind us.
> But they get up early out there on mon's, wed's, and fri's.
> And they sleep in on tues, thurs and sat's.
>
>
> "Pierre Levesque, AIA" <pierrelevesque@connarch.com> wrote in message
> news:abP5e.6554$Xm3.537@trndny01...
>
>

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> What happens on sun's?
>
> "Don" <one-if-by-land@concord.com> wrote in message
> news:MzP5e.6162$44.1515@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>

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> They go to church, then come home and eat fried chicken and watermelon and
> wash the whole mess down with 1/2 & 1/2, burp, then head for the porch
> swing for some quiet reflection while the kiddies play on the nicely
> manicured lawn and grandma lightly bows her Ukelin and passes gas, again.
>
> "Pierre Levesque, AIA" <pierrelevesque@connarch.com> wrote in message
> news:TCP5e.3365$Fm5.1843@trndny09...
>
>

quote:

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> They go to church, then come home and eat fried chicken and watermelon and
> wash the whole mess down with 1/2 & 1/2, burp, then head for the porch swing
> for some quiet reflection while the kiddies play on the nicely manicured
> lawn and grandma lightly bows her Ukelin and passes gas, again.

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> Yeah...well...um... Slept in. Sorry I'm late.

quote:

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> "3D Peruna""> wrote
>
>
> ^^^^^
>
> Uh-huh. <wink wink>
>

quote:

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> Yeah...well...um... Slept in. Sorry I'm late.
>
> (Big breath) Here goes!
>
> alt.architecture FAQ
> ====================
>
> 1. What architecture school should I go to? [Common Variant: How good
> is the university of 'X'?]
> 2. Can someone help me with my homework?
> 3. Where can I find free plans/design work/engineering calcs on the
> internet?
> 4. What CAD program is best/should I buy?
> 5. Is architecture a good career choice?
> 6. Am I being overcharged by my architect?
> 7. What does everyone think of this famous architect's work?
> 8. Why should I hire an architect when I can draw the plans with
> [insert name of extremely cheap drafting software here] on my own
> computer?
> 9. Where can I find 'X'?
> 10. What's a good gift for a teenager who wants to be an architect?
> 11. Please go to my website.
> 12. Why are architects so incompetent?
> 13. May I advertise in alt.architecture?
>
> Frequently Offered Answers on alt.architecture:
>
> 1. What architecture school should I go to? [Common Variant: How good is
> the university of 'X'?]
>
> It's up to you. [Variant: "LOL!!!!"]
>
> 2. Can someone help me with my homework?
>
> Nah. See question/answer #9 and stop asking others to do your work.
>
> 3. Where can I find free plans/design work/engineering calcs on the
> internet?
>
> http://www.alltheplansintheworld.co...itect/egan.html
> http://www.freearchitecture.com/
> http://www.allthefreecadsoftware.com/instantplans/
>
> 4. What CAD program is best/should I buy?
>
> Try the alt.cad newsgroup. We're pretentious artistes at
> alt.architecture.
>
> 5. Is architecture a good career choice?
>
> LOL! We can only hope so.
>
> 6. Am I being overcharged by my architect?
>
> LOL! We can only hope so.
>
> 7. What does everyone think of this famous architect's work?
>
> AUGH!
>
> 8. Why should I hire an architect when I can draw the plans with
> [insert name of extremely cheap drafting software here] on my own
> computer?
>
> You get what you pay for [or don't pay for--RE: Congressman James
> Trafficant's self-defense].
>
> 9. Where can I find 'X'?
>
> Leave us alone. Try http://www.google.com instead.
>
> 10. What's a good gift for a teenager who wants to be an architect?
>
> Space.
>
> 11. Please go to my website.
>
> That's not a question.
>
> 12. Why are architects so incompetent?
>
> Only in Hong Kong. They're all good everywhere else.
>
> 13. May I advertise in alt.architecture?
>
> Only if your first name is not Ralph or Anthony. Otherwise, feel
> free.

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> #1 Penn State? Ohio State? Dunno. What's your selection in curricula?
> (And I dare one of you jerks to correct my Latin!)
> #2 NO
> #3 Lots of programs free (most are trials and need to register for fee for
> full options) - - - explore
> #4 Debatable. Depends on what is interactive with what you've got ... and
> for the price. Despite other messages, Auto-CADD is the accepted standard.
> Sorry for their luck in trying to sell something else. Some trials or
> lesser programs available for trial or lesser cost. Explore.
> #5 Last I checked it was the lowest paid and highest liability in all
> professional fields.
> #6 No. You're being overcharged by his employees, secretaries, suppliers of
> durables, expendables, and taxes, overhead, liabilities, cost of licensing,
> etc. .......
> #7 Dunno. Didn't get the name.
> #8 Professional Liabilities (if it falls, fails, or hurts someone; or causes
> them medical harm in their lifetime; kiss your savings and home goodbye!)
> However, not a bad start for professional refinement; better than the back
> of a napkin.
> # 9 No Response
> #10 A 5x3 adjustable table, stool, lamp, templates, pentels, compass set,
> protractor, adjustable triangle, 30/60 and 45/90 triangles (pref w/ beveled
> edge) and lots and lots of books
> #11 NO
> #12 It would be my belief that they are so caught up in artistry, prestige,
> and money, that they forget the basic responsibilities of quality, safety,
> cost, employees, public trust.......
> #13 They don't let me (and for good professional reason). Why should anyone
> else be any different?

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> Steve Kachaylo wrote:
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licensing,[vbcol=seagreen]
causes[vbcol=seagreen]
goodbye!)[vbcol=seagreen]
back[vbcol=seagreen]
set,[vbcol=seagreen]
beveled[vbcol=seagreen]
prestige,[vbcol=seagreen]
safety,[vbcol=seagreen]
anyone[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> So...you think you want to take over being keeper of the FAQ?

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> triangles (pref w/ beveled edge)

quote:

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> "Steve Kachaylo"> wrote
>
> pussy
>
>

quote:

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> Basic point.....
> If you can't draw on a board without etch-a-sketch help, you basically
> can't
> draw !!!
>
> "Don" <one-if-by-land@concord.com> wrote in message
> news:xP06e.6508$44.3328@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>
>

quote:

---

> Yeah...well...um... Slept in. Sorry I'm late.
>
> (Big breath) Here goes!
>
> alt.architecture FAQ
> ====================
>
> 1. What architecture school should I go to? [Common Variant: How good
> is the university of 'X'?]
> 2. Can someone help me with my homework?
> 3. Where can I find free plans/design work/engineering calcs on the
> internet?
> 4. What CAD program is best/should I buy?
> 5. Is architecture a good career choice?
> 6. Am I being overcharged by my architect?
> 7. What does everyone think of this famous architect's work?
> 8. Why should I hire an architect when I can draw the plans with
> [insert name of extremely cheap drafting software here] on my own
> computer?
> 9. Where can I find 'X'?
> 10. What's a good gift for a teenager who wants to be an architect?
> 11. Please go to my website.
> 12. Why are architects so incompetent?
> 13. May I advertise in alt.architecture?
>
> Frequently Offered Answers on alt.architecture:
>
> 1. What architecture school should I go to? [Common Variant: How good is
> the university of 'X'?]
>
> It's up to you. [Variant: "LOL!!!!"]
>
> 2. Can someone help me with my homework?
>
> Nah. See question/answer #9 and stop asking others to do your work.
>
> 3. Where can I find free plans/design work/engineering calcs on the
> internet?
>
> http://www.alltheplansintheworld.co...itect/egan.html
> http://www.freearchitecture.com/
> http://www.allthefreecadsoftware.com/instantplans/
>
> 4. What CAD program is best/should I buy?
>
> Try the alt.cad newsgroup. We're pretentious artistes at
> alt.architecture.
>
> 5. Is architecture a good career choice?
>
> LOL! We can only hope so.
>
> 6. Am I being overcharged by my architect?
>
> LOL! We can only hope so.
>
> 7. What does everyone think of this famous architect's work?
>
> AUGH!
>
> 8. Why should I hire an architect when I can draw the plans with
> [insert name of extremely cheap drafting software here] on my own
> computer?
>
> You get what you pay for [or don't pay for--RE: Congressman James
> Trafficant's self-defense].
>
> 9. Where can I find 'X'?
>
> Leave us alone. Try http://www.google.com instead.
>
> 10. What's a good gift for a teenager who wants to be an architect?
>
> Space.
>
> 11. Please go to my website.
>
> That's not a question.
>
> 12. Why are architects so incompetent?
>
> Only in Hong Kong. They're all good everywhere else.
>
> 13. May I advertise in alt.architecture?
>
> Only if your first name is not Ralph or Anthony. Otherwise, feel
> free.

quote:

---

> #1 Penn State? Ohio State? Dunno. What's your selection in curricula?
> (And I dare one of you jerks to correct my Latin!)
> #2 NO
> #3 Lots of programs free (most are trials and need to register for fee for
> full options) - - - explore
> #4 Debatable. Depends on what is interactive with what you've got ... and
> for the price. Despite other messages, Auto-CADD is the accepted
> standard.
> Sorry for their luck in trying to sell something else. Some trials or
> lesser programs available for trial or lesser cost. Explore.
> #5 Last I checked it was the lowest paid and highest liability in all
> professional fields.
> #6 No. You're being overcharged by his employees, secretaries, suppliers
> of
> durables, expendables, and taxes, overhead, liabilities, cost of
> licensing,
> etc. .......
> #7 Dunno. Didn't get the name.
> #8 Professional Liabilities (if it falls, fails, or hurts someone; or
> causes
> them medical harm in their lifetime; kiss your savings and home goodbye!)
> However, not a bad start for professional refinement; better than the back
> of a napkin.
> # 9 No Response
> #10 A 5x3 adjustable table, stool, lamp, templates, pentels, compass set,
> protractor, adjustable triangle, 30/60 and 45/90 triangles (pref w/
> beveled
> edge) and lots and lots of books
> #11 NO
> #12 It would be my belief that they are so caught up in artistry,
> prestige,
> and money, that they forget the basic responsibilities of quality, safety,
> cost, employees, public trust.......
> #13 They don't let me (and for good professional reason). Why should
> anyone
> else be any different?
>
>
> "3D Peruna" <""w\"@h%a@r%o@l%d@w&e@i&r@d&n@e&s@s&.@c7o4m"> wrote in
> message
> news:a5R5e.1313$_m3.840@fe06.lga...
>
>

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> No desire for that. Just want to set records straight. Are you out here for
> info? Maybe just to cut each others' throats?
> Someone asked a question. I gave an answer. I get it shoved down my
> throat.
> Go to:
> NCARB.org
> and ask for specifics for practicing or licensing; then ask your state Labor
> and Industry Board of Practicing Professionals.

quote:

---

>I was toying with you, Steve.
> Make no mistake in aligning the ability to push buttons on a keyboard and
> sliding a mouse around to the innate concepts of *drawing*.
> They are not even closely related.
>
> CADing is a whole nuther animal, created in the last 2 decades of the 20th
> century.
> CADing out marketed hand drawing in some respects.
>
> But it also created a market niche for hand drawing.
>
> Hand drawing is imperative to my line of work, I can't function fully
> without it.
> To not draw stuff by hand would seriously effect my bottom line.
>
> I'm talking (ballpoint) pen directly on paper, on the fly, as needed.
> I do it everyday, and have so since I was a child.
>
> Some of the best CADders cannot think on paper by hand.
> I cannot do otherwise.
>
> There is a direct mechanical link between your eyes, brain and hand when
> drawing by hand, that is missing in the CAD platform.
> That link is valuable, and increasingly rare.
>
> Along with that mechanical link is the ability to see *in your minds eye*
> that which you want your hand to show.
>
> It starts as an *idea* in your head, then it is transformed by way of your
> binocular lenses and hands into a tangible object, massaged and
> manipulated into perfection along the way.
>
> CAD, nor drawing boards, will never replace that.
>
> BTW: People that use(d) inking edge triangles were hourly employees that
> didn't really want to get a lot of stuff done.
> People that were paid for their performance quickly realized the benefit
> of non-ink edged triangles and the ability to hold a 42" parallel with one
> hand, above the surface of their *wet* work, while continuing to work, and
> the use of hair dryers when the entire sheet was saturated. We're talking
> about extremely accurate, high speed drafting here, on the order of
> 200-300 s.f. per hour.
>
>

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---

>
>
> "Steve Kachaylo" <steve@netspeeds.net> wrote in message
> news:ca6b8$4258a2e5$49bc45a$7368@DIALUPUSA.NET...
>
>

quote:

---

> #1 Penn State? Ohio State? Dunno. What's your selection in curricula?
> (And I dare one of you jerks to correct my Latin!)
> #2 NO
> #3 Lots of programs free (most are trials and need to register for fee for
> full options) - - - explore
> #4 Debatable. Depends on what is interactive with what you've got ... and
> for the price. Despite other messages, Auto-CADD is the accepted
> standard.
> Sorry for their luck in trying to sell something else. Some trials or
> lesser programs available for trial or lesser cost. Explore.
> #5 Last I checked it was the lowest paid and highest liability in all
> professional fields.
> #6 No. You're being overcharged by his employees, secretaries, suppliers
> of
> durables, expendables, and taxes, overhead, liabilities, cost of
> licensing,
> etc. .......
> #7 Dunno. Didn't get the name.
> #8 Professional Liabilities (if it falls, fails, or hurts someone; or
> causes
> them medical harm in their lifetime; kiss your savings and home goodbye!)
> However, not a bad start for professional refinement; better than the back
> of a napkin.
> # 9 No Response
> #10 A 5x3 adjustable table, stool, lamp, templates, pentels, compass set,
> protractor, adjustable triangle, 30/60 and 45/90 triangles (pref w/
> beveled
> edge) and lots and lots of books
> #11 NO
> #12 It would be my belief that they are so caught up in artistry,
> prestige,
> and money, that they forget the basic responsibilities of quality, safety,
> cost, employees, public trust.......
> #13 They don't let me (and for good professional reason). Why should
> anyone
> else be any different?

quote:

---

> I were to only one to show soem politeness here...

quote:

---

> Hi all,
>
> I'm not an architect but due to professional reasons I had to start learning
> some of the architecture basics. Now I need to use a 3D software which
> allows me to create a building and walk around it, seeing all the internal
> and external details.
>
> I've tried the 3D Home Architect Deluxe 6 but the "walk around" tool is not
> working good for me, since the navigation is done with the mouse. Could
> someone here please tell me what's the best software available for this
> purpose? The me is being able to create any kind of building and being able
> to walk all around it in 3D.
>
> I'd also ask you people to point some sites where I could learn more about
> those 3D softwares and the architecture basics. I'm a complete newbie.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> John Silva

quote:

---

> Hi all,
>
> I'm not an architect but due to professional reasons I had to start

quote:

---

> some of the architecture basics. Now I need to use a 3D software

quote:

---

> allows me to create a building and walk around it, seeing all the

quote:

---

> and external details.
>
> I've tried the 3D Home Architect Deluxe 6 but the "walk around" tool

quote:

---

> working good for me, since the navigation is done with the mouse.

quote:

---

> someone here please tell me what's the best software available for

quote:

---

> purpose? The me is being able to create any kind of building and

quote:

---

> to walk all around it in 3D.
>
> I'd also ask you people to point some sites where I could learn more

quote:

---

> those 3D softwares and the architecture basics. I'm a complete

quote:

---

>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> John Silva

quote:

---

> Can you inform me about the difference between architectural
> software and regular 3D software? It seems to me that once
> you got the blueprint scanned in and extruded the walls and
> made sure the dimensions were accurate that unless you need
> a materials list or stress statistics or something engineering about
> which I am also ignorant, that a good 3D package for around
> $500 would work. I find Bryce to be great for landscaping.

quote:

---

> Hi all,
>
> I'm not an architect but due to professional reasons I had to start learning
> some of the architecture basics. Now I need to use a 3D software which
> allows me to create a building and walk around it, seeing all the internal
> and external details.
>
> I've tried the 3D Home Architect Deluxe 6 but the "walk around" tool is not
> working good for me, since the navigation is done with the mouse. Could
> someone here please tell me what's the best software available for this
> purpose? The me is being able to create any kind of building and being able
> to walk all around it in 3D.
>
> I'd also ask you people to point some sites where I could learn more about
> those 3D softwares and the architecture basics. I'm a complete newbie.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> John Silva
>
>

quote:

---

> John Silva wrote:
> You're asking for something that doesn't exist. It takes quite some time
> to learn the "basics" and then it takes some time to learn the software.
>
> Are you looking to create "pretty pictures" or "building information
> models?" They're related, but very different in how they're approached.
> And for either of them, you're looking at investing considerable time and
> money. The decent software starts at about $1K (and I don't think that
> stuff is all that good -- to get anything worthwhile for 3D work, look to
> spend at least $3K). And the learning curve is steep--because you're not
> only learning the software, but how to represent a building.
>
> Lastly...as for "best" software. You're asking for a religious
> discussion. There are many programs out there. Those who use them all
> have their reasons for doing so and think that their software is the best
> for their purposes. The industry standard is based on Autodesk's AutoCAD
> products...but that doesn't mean they're the best, or what you should use
> (because you don't have a clue as to what you're getting into).
>
> Why not just hire an architecture firm to do what you need to do?

quote:

---

> There's a competition in the World Memory Championships called Speed Cards
> where you have to memorize an entire pack of playing cards (52 cards) as
> fast as you can.

quote:

---

> 3D Peruna,
>
> Sorry about the delay to answer your question, but I had some problems with
> my computer and only fixed it today. Well, I'm training for the WMC (World
> Memory Championships) and my idea is to use CAD programs to build places for
> a Journey System (or "Loci System", "Memory Palace", etc). You can find more
> about this at http://www.ludism.org/mentat/MemoryPalace . I didn't explain
> it earlier because nobody knows it and soulds a little crazy, but really
> works and exists.
>
> This technique is based in associating images (or pieces of information) to
> places. So, when you want to remember something you just have to walk trough
> the place you used to "keep" your information and you'll remember it as you
> see the places. I need that because the number of locations that I can
> remember perfectly is pretty limited, and sometimes I use all the places I
> know to keep information, which makes me need a new one. It gives me some
> work because when I need to memorize a new place I have to walk through to
> city to find new ones... My idea with this CAD stuff is creating places to
> fit my own needs.
>
> There's a competition in the World Memory Championships called Speed Cards
> where you have to memorize an entire pack of playing cards (52 cards) as
> fast as you can. The standards are something like 3 minutes, and the
> technique used for it consists of associating each card to a location. Then
> you'll need a place with 52 locations (or a building with 52 rooms, a course
> with 52 landmarks, whatever) to do it. Finding a place like this and
> memorizing it is not easy... With CAD I could imagine and create a place
> from my own. Do you know what I mean? That's it! So my answer to your
> question is "creating funny pictures", but I need to be able to walk though
> those funny pictures seing every single detail of its structure.
>

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> "John Silva"> wrote
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>
> I've seen this stuff before and wonder about the real world applications.
> In other words, other than parlor tricks, how can this benefit someone in
> their day to day activities, and can you provide some specific examples?
> Thanks.
>
>

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> i've used it for preliminary 3D designs with my customers, who cannot
> visualize what will take to their homes.

quote:

---

> "John Silva"> wrote
>
> I've seen this stuff before and wonder about the real world applications.
> In other words, other than parlor tricks, how can this benefit someone in
> their day to day activities, and can you provide some specific examples?
> Thanks.
>

quote:

---

> It will take longer to create the space, unless a simple textured
> rectangle will suffice, than it would to use more "traditional"
> techniques. The whole 3D walk-through stuff is very cool...but presently
> overrated.

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---

> Hi 3D Peruna,
>
> Well, I've tried 3D Home Architect Home Design Deluxe 6 a few days ago. The
> software itself is very good but the "walk trough" feature isn't. I need to
> move freely around the space, but I can't do it the way I want with the
> mouse.
> The kind of software I'm looking for would be as easy to use as 3D Home
> Architect but with a better "walk trough" feature. Is there such thing?
>
> Cheers,

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---

> : Depends on the level of detail you're looking for. Quite frankly, I'd
> : steer you towards the game engines...like Doom or Quake. There are
> : development tools for those types of games that have great
> : "walk-through" capabilities and might be more what you're looking for.
> : The stuff geared towards the architecture market isn't where you want to
> : go...trust me.
>
> That sounds so 'out of the mainstream' but that might be a good thing.
> Have you ever used gaming software to produce walkthroughs? It
> doesn't seem like that specialized of a thing would be available to the
> public not directly involved with the particular game. How do you
> find it? Thanks for the idea.
>

quote:

---

> Hi all,
>
> I'm not an architect but due to professional reasons I had to start
> learning some of the architecture basics. Now I need to use a 3D
> software which allows me to create a building and walk around it,
> seeing all the internal and external details.

quote:

---

> I've tried the 3D Home Architect Deluxe 6 but the "walk around" tool
> is not working good for me, since the navigation is done with the
> mouse. Could someone here please tell me what's the best software
> available for this purpose? The me is being able to create any kind of
> building and being able to walk all around it in 3D.
>
> I'd also ask you people to point some sites where I could learn more
> about those 3D softwares and the architecture basics. I'm a complete
> newbie.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> John Silva
>
>
>

quote:

---

> 3D Peruna,
>
> Sorry about the delay to answer your question, but I had some problems
> with my computer and only fixed it today. Well, I'm training for the
> WMC (World Memory Championships) and my idea is to use CAD programs to
> build places for a Journey System (or "Loci System", "Memory Palace",
> etc). You can find more about this at
> http://www.ludism.org/mentat/MemoryPalace . I didn't explain it
> earlier because nobody knows it and soulds a little crazy, but really
> works and exists.
>
> This technique is based in associating images (or pieces of
> information) to places. So, when you want to remember something you
> just have to walk trough the place you used to "keep" your information
> and you'll remember it as you see the places. I need that because the
> number of locations that I can remember perfectly is pretty limited,
> and sometimes I use all the places I know to keep information, which
> makes me need a new one. It gives me some work because when I need to
> memorize a new place I have to walk through to city to find new
> ones... My idea with this CAD stuff is creating places to fit my own
> needs.

quote:

---

> There's a competition in the World Memory Championships called Speed
> Cards where you have to memorize an entire pack of playing cards (52
> cards) as fast as you can. The standards are something like 3 minutes,
> and the technique used for it consists of associating each card to a
> location. Then you'll need a place with 52 locations (or a building
> with 52 rooms, a course with 52 landmarks, whatever) to do it. Finding
> a place like this and memorizing it is not easy... With CAD I could
> imagine and create a place from my own. Do you know what I mean?
> That's it! So my answer to your question is "creating funny pictures",
> but I need to be able to walk though those funny pictures seing every
> single detail of its structure.

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> Cheers,
>
> John Silva
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> Can you inform me about the difference between architectural
> software and regular 3D software? It seems to me that once
> you got the blueprint scanned in and extruded the walls and
> made sure the dimensions were accurate that unless you need
> a materials list or stress statistics or something engineering about
> which I am also ignorant, that a good 3D package for around
> $500 would work. I find Bryce to be great for landscaping.

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> "John Silva" <shredman2004@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>: Hi all,
>:
>: I'm not an architect but due to professional reasons I had to start
> learning
>: some of the architecture basics. Now I need to use a 3D software
>: which allows me to create a building and walk around it, seeing all
>: the internal and external details.
>:
>: I've tried the 3D Home Architect Deluxe 6 but the "walk around" tool
>: is
> not
>: working good for me, since the navigation is done with the mouse.
>: Could someone here please tell me what's the best software available
>: for this purpose? The me is being able to create any kind of building
>: and being
> able
>: to walk all around it in 3D.
>:
>: I'd also ask you people to point some sites where I could learn more
>: about those 3D softwares and the architecture basics. I'm a complete
>: newbie.
>:
>: Thanks in advance,
>:
>: John Silva
>:
>:
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> "cat herder" <goodidea1950SPAM-SPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
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>
> As I understand it:
>
> CAD=precision, IOW, you can make precisely-scaled things that can be
> directly used where exact/precise dimensioning is required.
>
> 3D Modeler=just that, primary function is modeling and rendering. Fairly
> precise models can still be made using numerical input and dimensioning,
> but they have to be translated/formatted if you want, for example, to send
> them to a 3D printer or one of those resin-based-fabrication places. A

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> of people will argue that there is no such thing as a good 3D package for
> less than $1K. In fact, much of it depends upon what you want to do AND
> how talented you are at what you do.
>
>
> Also, the tools used by CAD and modelers tend to be quite different.
>
> One analogy might be, using straight precision-cut balsawood boards,

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> clay. Both useful but not necessarily interchangeable.
>
>
> Of course, the tools used by the different 3D modelers themselves can also
> be very different one from the other. Some are menu-based (like Lightwave
> and, I think, 3D Studio Max), some are icon-based (like Bryce and
> trueSpace), and so on. So it's important to know which you prefer, which
> you can use more intuitively. I tried Lightwave and I loathed it; but
> other people love it. It's a very individual thing.
>
>
> So:
>
> If you're an architectural professional who needs to be a able to directly
> turn 3D into blueprints and plans direclty useable by contractors and so
> on, you need AutoCAD or ArchiCAD, or whatever the standard is, because you
> have to meet regulations/requirements.
>
> If you work in the film industry, and are one of the people creating, for
> example, critters and/or sets for the next Star Wars movie, you'll want
> Maya or whatever is one of the industry standards, so that your work can

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> easily meshed in with the project.
>
> If you want to do a walk-through model of a stone-age village for a new

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> special, you can usually use pretty much whatever the heck you want; even
> if you need to collaborate and share the project, any 3D modeler worth
> anything will be able to export and import a number of file formats.
>
>
> Bryce isn't really a 3D modeler BTW...it's more of a world-building
> program.
>
>
> Try that cginetworks.com link to see some image galleries, to get a sense
> fo what 3D modeling programs can do. Also, try the trueSpace image
> galleries at www.caligari.com (to see what pro work is being done with a
> so-called "hobby" program). Those will show you some of the work that can
> be done with various 3D programs.
>
> Whether you go for CAD, or for 3D modeling, the first secret is:
> a tool is only as good as the hand that wields it.
> I've seen exceedingly expensive programs used to create crap, and
> relatively inexpensive programs used to create excellent work.
>
> The second secret is:
> Choose a program with an interface you can use intuitively.
> If you have to fight with the interface, things will take a lot longer thn
> they should. So try the demo programs!
>
> Also, CAD programs are good for precision but 3D programs are better for
> rendering quality and for ease of modeling and scene manipulation.
>
> For what you want to do, tho', FWIW, I wouldn't suggest a CAD program.
>
> - KMK
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> - Kris M. Krieger