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Kipor Silent Generators
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| FTAJeff@gmail.com 2005-10-20, 12:21 am |
| Try www.AuroraGenerators.com Half the price of Honda, same specs.
Kipor Silent Generators.
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| m Ransley 2005-10-20, 8:21 am |
| I wonder how long they last, and I saw no real specs on power quality.
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| Derek Broughton 2005-10-20, 10:21 am |
| FTAJeff@gmail.com wrote:
> Try www.AuroraGenerators.com Half the price of Honda, same specs.
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> Kipor Silent Generators.
Same specs? Same reputation?
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derek
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| Ulysses 2005-10-20, 4:21 pm |
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"m Ransley" <ransley@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> I wonder how long they last, and I saw no real specs on power quality.
>
I searched for reviews, read all the specs I could find, and bought another
Honda.
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<FTAJeff@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Try www.AuroraGenerators.com Half the price of Honda, same specs.
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> Kipor Silent Generators.
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So what's your point...? Are you a spammer for them?
PLONK
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| JoeSixPack 2005-10-21, 12:21 am |
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"Ulysses" <therealulysses@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "m Ransley" <ransley@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> I searched for reviews, read all the specs I could find, and bought
> another
> Honda.
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Honda has had a lot of warranty issues. Yamaha is a better bet.
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| Ulysses 2005-10-21, 12:21 pm |
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"JoeSixPack" <olegp@telus.net> wrote in message
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> "Ulysses" <therealulysses@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Honda has had a lot of warranty issues. Yamaha is a better bet.
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>
I never had any problems with Honda or their warranties. I considered
getting a Yamaha instead but there are no warranty repair places near me but
at least two for Honda. What problems have you heard of with Honda?
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| Robert Morein 2005-10-21, 1:21 pm |
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"Ulysses" <therealulysses@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "JoeSixPack" <olegp@telus.net> wrote in message
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quality.[color=darkred]
> I never had any problems with Honda or their warranties. I considered
> getting a Yamaha instead but there are no warranty repair places near me
but
> at least two for Honda. What problems have you heard of with Honda?
>
People have reported catastrophic inverter failures. They say the price of a
replacement inverter is prohibitive. Supposedly, Yamaha parts are
reasonable.
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| JoeSixPack 2005-10-21, 1:21 pm |
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"Ulysses" <therealulysses@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "JoeSixPack" <olegp@telus.net> wrote in message
> news:xFY5f.47332$ir4.35503@edtnps90...
> I never had any problems with Honda or their warranties. I considered
> getting a Yamaha instead but there are no warranty repair places near me
> but
> at least two for Honda. What problems have you heard of with Honda?
>
>
The original report that showed some teething problems for the new Honda
inverter generators, resulting in a large number of warranty issues has
disappeared since I first read it. Yamaha seems to have gotten it right so
far. I don't know much about the lesser-known brands like Kipor.
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| JoeSixPack 2005-10-21, 1:21 pm |
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"Robert Morein" <nowhere@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> People have reported catastrophic inverter failures. They say the price of
> a
> replacement inverter is prohibitive. Supposedly, Yamaha parts are
> reasonable.
>
>
I think some of those catastrophic failures are the result of trying to
attach 2 AC generators to the same circuit. This usually results in blown
fuses with a conventional generator, but inverters are intolerant of such a
practice and can catch fire from runaway thermal overload.
I once had to almost resort to force to prevent a camp foreman from splicing
two generators together at a worksite. He claimed to have successfully done
it before, but I suspect one of the generators had been knocked out in the
process, resulting in apparent power from the remaining one.
I believe all generators should post more visible warnings against this
practice, particularly with the new inverter-types. I wonder how much
additional circuitry it would require to detect such a hookup and shut down
the inverter, or automatically synchronize it to the other one.
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| In article <Zs86f.40623$S4.27411@edtnps84>,
"JoeSixPack" <olegp@telus.net> wrote:
> "Robert Morein" <nowhere@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:D6-dnQTyQY0slMTeRVn-2Q@giganews.com...
>
>
> I think some of those catastrophic failures are the result of trying to
> attach 2 AC generators to the same circuit. This usually results in blown
> fuses with a conventional generator, but inverters are intolerant of such a
> practice and can catch fire from runaway thermal overload.
>
> I once had to almost resort to force to prevent a camp foreman from splicing
> two generators together at a worksite. He claimed to have successfully done
> it before, but I suspect one of the generators had been knocked out in the
> process, resulting in apparent power from the remaining one.
>
> I believe all generators should post more visible warnings against this
> practice, particularly with the new inverter-types. I wonder how much
> additional circuitry it would require to detect such a hookup and shut down
> the inverter, or automatically synchronize it to the other one.
>
>
Actually both the Honda and Yamaha Inverter/Generators have Stacking Kits
aailable for them that allow multiple usnits to be wired in series for
240Vac or parallel for increased power. Basically the stacking kit,
connects the clocks for the inverter units to syncronize and produce
in phase power.
Me
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| Ulysses 2005-10-21, 5:21 pm |
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"JoeSixPack" <olegp@telus.net> wrote in message
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> "Robert Morein" <nowhere@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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of[color=darkred]
The price of engine rebuilding is also prohibitive and there is no
replacement engine or short block available unless someone can figure out
how to get a standard GX engine into one of them.
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>
> I think some of those catastrophic failures are the result of trying to
> attach 2 AC generators to the same circuit. This usually results in blown
> fuses with a conventional generator, but inverters are intolerant of such
a
> practice and can catch fire from runaway thermal overload.
>
> I once had to almost resort to force to prevent a camp foreman from
splicing
> two generators together at a worksite. He claimed to have successfully
done
> it before, but I suspect one of the generators had been knocked out in the
> process, resulting in apparent power from the remaining one.
>
> I believe all generators should post more visible warnings against this
> practice, particularly with the new inverter-types. I wonder how much
> additional circuitry it would require to detect such a hookup and shut
down
> the inverter, or automatically synchronize it to the other one.
>
>
The Honda inverter generators (eu series) are designed to be connected
together to produce twice the current output. They have jacks that are
specifically made for this purpose and sell a 30 amp (?) outlet package so a
typical RV plug will fit right into it. So, are you saying that the
inverter failures are do to this and Honda won't repair it under warranty?
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| Ulysses 2005-10-21, 5:21 pm |
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"Me" <Me@shadow.orgs> wrote in message
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> In article <Zs86f.40623$S4.27411@edtnps84>,
> "JoeSixPack" <olegp@telus.net> wrote:
>
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>
>
> Actually both the Honda and Yamaha Inverter/Generators have Stacking Kits
> aailable for them that allow multiple usnits to be wired in series for
> 240Vac or parallel for increased power. Basically the stacking kit,
> connects the clocks for the inverter units to syncronize and produce
> in phase power.
>
> Me
I was not aware that the Hondas could be connected in series for 240 volts.
That makes it even more appealing to me. Got a link that shows this?
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| Ulysses 2005-10-21, 6:21 pm |
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"JoeSixPack" <olegp@telus.net> wrote in message
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> "Ulysses" <therealulysses@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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quality.[color=darkred]
>
> The original report that showed some teething problems for the new Honda
> inverter generators, resulting in a large number of warranty issues has
> disappeared since I first read it. Yamaha seems to have gotten it right so
> far. I don't know much about the lesser-known brands like Kipor.
>
>
I could find no consumer reviews of the Kipor inverter generators, only one
for the Yamaha 2800, and about a zillion for the Hondas, especially the
eu2000. I have no doubt about the quality of the Yamahas but I'd rather let
someone else review the Kipors and let us know ;-)
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| The Honda models with "is" suffix in model number are
designed for paralleling, there is an accessory harness
that connects the two units together and one control unit
assumes control of both engines. I personally never tried
it as I only have one unit, but someone I know in Florida
used this sytem in a hurricane, but I never heard back how
the system performed.
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 16:13:45 GMT, "JoeSixPack" <olegp@telus.net>
wrote:
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>"Robert Morein" <nowhere@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>news:D6-dnQTyQY0slMTeRVn-2Q@giganews.com...
>
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>I think some of those catastrophic failures are the result of trying to
>attach 2 AC generators to the same circuit. This usually results in blown
>fuses with a conventional generator, but inverters are intolerant of such a
>practice and can catch fire from runaway thermal overload.
>
>I once had to almost resort to force to prevent a camp foreman from splicing
>two generators together at a worksite. He claimed to have successfully done
>it before, but I suspect one of the generators had been knocked out in the
>process, resulting in apparent power from the remaining one.
>
>I believe all generators should post more visible warnings against this
>practice, particularly with the new inverter-types. I wonder how much
>additional circuitry it would require to detect such a hookup and shut down
>the inverter, or automatically synchronize it to the other one.
>
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| Arnold Walker 2005-10-24, 5:21 pm |
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<FTAJeff@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Try www.AuroraGenerators.com Half the price of Honda, same specs.
>
> Kipor Silent Generators.
How silent is silent....do you mean like a steam piston engine?
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| JoeSixPack 2005-10-24, 9:21 pm |
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"Arnold Walker" <arnoldwalker@consolidated.net> wrote in message
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> <FTAJeff@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> How silent is silent....do you mean like a steam piston engine?
Silent as in 54-59 decibels instead of 75 I guess.
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| Derek Broughton 2005-10-25, 10:21 am |
| Arnold Walker wrote:
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> <FTAJeff@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> How silent is silent....do you mean like a steam piston engine?
Well he said "same specs", so I expect he means silent as a Honda generator.
Pretty quiet for a gasoline engine, but not quite like a steam engine :-)
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derek
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