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moving freezer to unheated area?
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| Robert Morein 2005-11-26, 7:21 pm |
| I saw this mentioned in "Consumption survey".
This is a fairly large top loading Kenmore freezer, currently in the
basement.
I'm near Philadelphia. We have 4 tons of A/C in use from about June 15 to
September 15.
What would the expected savings be by moving it from the heated basement to
an unheated/uncooled room?
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"Robert Morein" <nowhere@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> I saw this mentioned in "Consumption survey".
> This is a fairly large top loading Kenmore freezer, currently in the
> basement.
> I'm near Philadelphia. We have 4 tons of A/C in use from about June 15 to
> September 15.
> What would the expected savings be by moving it from the heated basement
to
> an unheated/uncooled room?
5-8% if your lucky unless you keep your basement at 90F
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| Solar Flare 2005-11-27, 1:21 am |
| None. It helps heat you basement in the cooler months.
"Robert Morein" <nowhere@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:_P2dncM91ZoneBXenZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@giganews.com...
> I saw this mentioned in "Consumption survey".
> This is a fairly large top loading Kenmore freezer,
currently in the
> basement.
> I'm near Philadelphia. We have 4 tons of A/C in use
from about June 15 to
> September 15.
> What would the expected savings be by moving it from
the heated basement to
> an unheated/uncooled room?
>
>
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| Derek Broughton 2005-11-28, 11:21 am |
| Solar Flare wrote:
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> None. It helps heat you basement in the cooler months.
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> "Robert Morein" <nowhere@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:_P2dncM91ZoneBXenZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@giganews.com...
I noted that same detail. My freezer lives in my (unheated) garage. It
might cost a tad more to run in Summer, because the garage probably heats
up more than the house, but it's not adding heat load to the house and I
had excess electricity all Summer this year (that's not always the case on
my foggy coast). Yes, if it was indoors it would add heat in Winter, but I
can't afford electric heat (because I don't have an excess of electricity -
it's not the $). I'm still not sure it's a really good idea -
manufacturers usually recommend against putting fridges & freezers in areas
where they'll freeze, but I don't know what risks there might be.
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derek
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| I'm still not sure it's a really good idea -
> manufacturers usually recommend against putting fridges & freezers in areas
> where they'll freeze, but I don't know what risks there might be.
> --
> derek
Compressor oil gets thicker as it gets colder so the compressor has
more difficulty starting. In other words, it's hard on the compressor
motor.
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| Derek Broughton 2005-11-28, 2:21 pm |
| Jake wrote:
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> Compressor oil gets thicker as it gets colder so the compressor has
> more difficulty starting. In other words, it's hard on the compressor
> motor.
Sure, but how cold is cold? Most of the winter, my freezer will be so cold
that it won't turn on at all. So what temperature range am I at risk?
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derek
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| Robert Morein 2005-11-28, 4:21 pm |
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"Derek Broughton" <news@pointerstop.ca> wrote in message
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> Jake wrote:
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> Sure, but how cold is cold? Most of the winter, my freezer will be so
> cold
> that it won't turn on at all. So what temperature range am I at risk?
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> derek
Any time the ambient is above the setpoint of the freezer. For mine, that
appears to be about 19F.
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| Derek Broughton 2005-11-29, 10:21 am |
| Robert Morein wrote:
> "Derek Broughton" <news@pointerstop.ca> wrote in message
> news:5uqr53-s5h.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca...
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> Any time the ambient is above the setpoint of the freezer. For mine, that
> appears to be about 19F.
That's the obvious _bottom_ end of the range - but how warm does it have to
be for the compressor oil not to be too thick?
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derek
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| Steve Spence 2005-11-30, 11:21 am |
| Derek Broughton wrote:
> Solar Flare wrote:
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> I noted that same detail. My freezer lives in my (unheated) garage. It
> might cost a tad more to run in Summer, because the garage probably heats
> up more than the house, but it's not adding heat load to the house and I
> had excess electricity all Summer this year (that's not always the case on
> my foggy coast). Yes, if it was indoors it would add heat in Winter, but I
> can't afford electric heat (because I don't have an excess of electricity -
> it's not the $). I'm still not sure it's a really good idea -
> manufacturers usually recommend against putting fridges & freezers in areas
> where they'll freeze, but I don't know what risks there might be.
We ran a big chest freezer on an unheated porch in Northern NY for over
20 years. -40 temps didn't bother it. Never checked watt consumption in
heated/unheated scenario.
--
Steve Spence
Dir., Green Trust, http://www.green-trust.org
Contributing Editor, http://www.off-grid.net
http://www.rebelwolf.com/essn.html
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| Derek Broughton 2005-11-30, 12:21 pm |
| Steve Spence wrote:
> We ran a big chest freezer on an unheated porch in Northern NY for over
> 20 years. -40 temps didn't bother it. Never checked watt consumption in
> heated/unheated scenario.
In which case I won't worry about it. Thanks
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derek
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