| Oren Beck 2005-06-25, 6:25 pm |
| On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:17:46 +0100, "News" <Nospam@here.com> wrote:
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><ladasky@my-deja.com> wrote in message
>news:1118159555.549012.45560@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
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>Any advanced cleaner energy systems should be accompanied by energy saving
>methods: solar, cogen, very high efficiency appliances, better town planning
>to get people walking again, etc. It is a multi-facetted approach. There
>is no one solution panacea. BTW, PV arrays combined with de-salination can
>solve many local water problems.
Out of usual courtesy I rarely reply to anything crossposted beyone
the second group. Be that as it may - the quote above captures an
overview. It's *NOT "& a single bullet slays all energy demons" folks!
Integrating the whole range of energy management from creation to
usages and even disposal of waste heat. Or should there be considered
no such thing as permissible waste of any sort? ANY place there exists
an energy gradient we need to examine some exploitation of it .
Tidal forces have the seductive nature of wide distribution.
The game to me is return on investments.That gets complex.
Maybe there ARE energy flows to a sink too low returning of
investment for harvesting-NOW, but someday? Make them part of synergy
systems and then possible to use . Example of a synergy being the
seemingly abandoned thermoelectric units that would be placed over
domestic gas furnaces or water heaters. It would seem to me that over
the lifetime of an appliance somehow the costing of electrical power
etc would make some difference. If nothing else even a "minimal
operating mode" powered by thermoelectrics could be a literal life
saver. Or delaying a need for power until the tide coming in or out
powers a full speed operation. Dual power water heat gas fired when no
tidalpower is online cheaply-electric when tidal power peaks in supply
equalling a dip in cost.
Then engineering a systems interaction approach to our daily energy
management gets easy as we standardise hardware interfaces.
SCADA reaching into the individual appliance level offering a trade
for power NOW at price X or a short wait at a much cheaper price as
peak load shaving. So far we have most of these pieces.
The "cost" of appliances SHOULD be mandated as affected by their
energy impact. Energy tax credit as reward incentive is the best
method to me. And the finance generator for such credits may be the
bond profits on tidal power projects! Total bootstrapping with
interest .
Then as a closing proposal consider tidal for generating hydrogen to
be used in unmanned heavy lifters. Moving slow cargo cross country on
desolate routes over unpopulated areas like something from a Dean Ing
SciFi story. The avoided diesel thus divertable for fueling legacy oil
burning households could be a blessing for those in New England.
Oren Beck
www.campdownunder.com
"The average one of my campers uses 5-10 gallons of water per day,
the average older toilet flushed twice can do the same"
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