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| Steve Spence 2005-09-13, 2:25 pm |
| Did you know you can run your diesel on used fryer oil? Yes, that stuff
the restaurants throw away is actually fuel. Want to learn how to do it?
We will be giving a class on converting diesels to run this clean
burning renewable fuel on Oct. 2nd, in Falls Village , CT.
The class will be held Oct. 2nd at 9am. It's an all day class.
Participants will be able to get hands on conversion experience, and we
plan on having 3 different vehicles there for conversion. The cost is $50
Drop us an email for details on the class, or for your own wvo
conversion kit or biodiesel processor.
Directions to the class can be found at
http://www.isabellafreedman.org/mor...irections.shtml
--
Steve Spence
Dir., Green Trust, http://www.green-trust.org
Contributing Editor, http://www.off-grid.net
http://www.rebelwolf.com/essn.html
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"Steve Spence" <sspence@green-trust.org> wrote in message
news:yCqVe.431$IC3.32@fe12.lga...
> Did you know you can run your diesel on used fryer oil? Yes, that stuff
> the restaurants throw away is actually fuel. Want to learn how to do it?
> We will be giving a class on converting diesels to run this clean
> burning renewable fuel on Oct. 2nd, in Falls Village , CT.
>
> The class will be held Oct. 2nd at 9am. It's an all day class.
> Participants will be able to get hands on conversion experience, and we
> plan on having 3 different vehicles there for conversion. The cost is $50
>
> Drop us an email for details on the class, or for your own wvo
> conversion kit or biodiesel processor.
>
> Directions to the class can be found at
> http://www.isabellafreedman.org/mor...irections.shtml
>
> --
> Steve Spence
to bad it is on the opposite side of the country for me.
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| GeekBoy 2005-09-16, 4:21 am |
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"Steve Spence" <sspence@green-trust.org> wrote in message
news:yCqVe.431$IC3.32@fe12.lga...
> Did you know you can run your diesel on used fryer oil? Yes, that stuff
> the restaurants throw away is actually fuel. Want to learn how to do it?
> We will be giving a class on converting diesels to run this clean burning
> renewable fuel on Oct. 2nd, in Falls Village , CT.
>
I was reading abut a guy mixing diesel/ straight (50/50) used fryer oil
(filtered of course) without conversion. He claims about 17 cents a gallon
for fuel.
> The class will be held Oct. 2nd at 9am. It's an all day class.
> Participants will be able to get hands on conversion experience, and we
> plan on having 3 different vehicles there for conversion. The cost is $50
>
> Drop us an email for details on the class, or for your own wvo conversion
> kit or biodiesel processor.
>
> Directions to the class can be found at
> http://www.isabellafreedman.org/mor...irections.shtml
>
> --
> Steve Spence
> Dir., Green Trust, http://www.green-trust.org
> Contributing Editor, http://www.off-grid.net
> http://www.rebelwolf.com/essn.html
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| daestrom 2005-09-16, 9:21 am |
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"GeekBoy" <GeeksRUs@geek.com> wrote in message
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> "Steve Spence" <sspence@green-trust.org> wrote in message
> news:yCqVe.431$IC3.32@fe12.lga...
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> I was reading abut a guy mixing diesel/ straight (50/50) used fryer oil
> (filtered of course) without conversion. He claims about 17 cents a gallon
> for fuel.
>
Hmmm.... If he's mixing 50/50 and the fryer oil is absolutely free, then
he's getting 1/2 gallon of diesel for 17 cents. Or 34 cents a gallon of
diesel to make two gallons of 50/50.
To h___ with the fryer oil, where can I get diesel for 34 cents a gallon? I
want some of that.
daestrom
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| zenboom 2005-09-16, 10:21 am |
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> "Steve Spence" <sspence@green-trust.org> wrote in message
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$50[color=darkred]
Will you be publishing results etc for the rest of us ?
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R'zenboom
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| Philip Lewis 2005-09-16, 12:21 pm |
| "daestrom" <daestrom@NO_SPAM_HEREtwcny.rr.com> writes:
>Hmmm.... If he's mixing 50/50 and the fryer oil is absolutely free, then
>he's getting 1/2 gallon of diesel for 17 cents. Or 34 cents a gallon of
>diesel to make two gallons of 50/50.
that was my first inperpretation... then the absurdity kicked in and I
realized he was estimating that it cost him 17cents a gallon to pick
up and process the WVO.... but you knew that, and was just being
jaggy, I'd reckon. ;)
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| Steve Spence 2005-09-16, 12:21 pm |
| GeekBoy wrote:
> "Steve Spence" <sspence@green-trust.org> wrote in message
> news:yCqVe.431$IC3.32@fe12.lga...
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> I was reading abut a guy mixing diesel/ straight (50/50) used fryer oil
> (filtered of course) without conversion. He claims about 17 cents a gallon
> for fuel.
>
Without conversion you risk damaging your injector pump, and clogging
your injectors.
Due to the overwhelming response, I have added a pre-registration button
on our web page:
http://www.green-trust.org/2005/09/...-2nd-falls.html
If you are coming, please pre-register, as this will help us plan for
the larger group.
We will also show the on-site biodiesel processor.
--
Steve Spence
Dir., Green Trust, http://www.green-trust.org
Contributing Editor, http://www.off-grid.net
http://www.rebelwolf.com/essn.html
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| Bret Ludwig 2005-09-16, 8:21 pm |
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Steve Spence wrote:
> GeekBoy wrote:
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> Without conversion you risk damaging your injector pump, and clogging
> your injectors.
>
> Due to the overwhelming response, I have added a pre-registration button
> on our web page:
>
> http://www.green-trust.org/2005/09/...-2nd-falls.html
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> If you are coming, please pre-register, as this will help us plan for
> the larger group.
You would be best off to market to the burger chains themselves.
McDonalds, Wendy's, Hardee's/Carl's Jr.,etc control 80+ percent of WVO
in the United States. Most franchise stores and ALL company outlets
will NOT give or sell WVO to anyone except the contract-approved
operator(s). There are major corporate issues and probably
financial-feedback/payola or outright organized crime issues to deal
with especailly in the Northeast.
Pre-processing the fuel into biodiesel has to be way better than
straight WVO operation. I would like to see some pumps, injectors, and
cylinder heads and piston tops off straight WVO operated engines with
substantial time on them on WVO before going much further.
Mass popularity of SVO/WVO/DIY Biodiesel will of course exhaust the
resource pretty quickly, so substantial capital investment should be
predicated on recovery of the investment in reasonable time.
Why not have the burger joints burn it themselves for heat or cogen?
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| Steve Spence 2005-09-16, 11:21 pm |
| Bret Ludwig wrote:
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> You would be best off to market to the burger chains themselves.
> McDonalds, Wendy's, Hardee's/Carl's Jr.,etc control 80+ percent of WVO
> in the United States. Most franchise stores and ALL company outlets
> will NOT give or sell WVO to anyone except the contract-approved
> operator(s). There are major corporate issues and probably
> financial-feedback/payola or outright organized crime issues to deal
> with especailly in the Northeast.
>
> Pre-processing the fuel into biodiesel has to be way better than
> straight WVO operation. I would like to see some pumps, injectors, and
> cylinder heads and piston tops off straight WVO operated engines with
> substantial time on them on WVO before going much further.
>
> Mass popularity of SVO/WVO/DIY Biodiesel will of course exhaust the
> resource pretty quickly, so substantial capital investment should be
> predicated on recovery of the investment in reasonable time.
>
> Why not have the burger joints burn it themselves for heat or cogen?
>
We have seen vehicles with over 300k miles on wvo. I have over 150k
miles on wvo in my vw rabbit, and over 6000 hours on my Detroit diesel
generator. WVO operated diesels have been proven time and time again
over the last 20 years. We can get all the oil we need from the
independent outfits. Not interested in dealing with bureaucracy. My
mission is to empower individuals in their quest to be more self sufficient.
--
Steve Spence
Dir., Green Trust, http://www.green-trust.org
Contributing Editor, http://www.off-grid.net
http://www.rebelwolf.com/essn.html
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| Arnold Walker 2005-09-17, 12:21 am |
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"Steve Spence" <sspence@green-trust.org> wrote in message
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> Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
>
> We have seen vehicles with over 300k miles on wvo. I have over 150k
> miles on wvo in my vw rabbit, and over 6000 hours on my Detroit diesel
> generator. WVO operated diesels have been proven time and time again
> over the last 20 years. We can get all the oil we need from the
> independent outfits. Not interested in dealing with bureaucracy. My
> mission is to empower individuals in their quest to be more self
sufficient.
>
>
> --
> Steve Spence
> Dir., Green Trust, http://www.green-trust.org
> Contributing Editor, http://www.off-grid.net
> http://www.rebelwolf.com/essn.html
>
Now if Honda will release its diesel civic in theUS, that gets better milage
than the hybrid Civic.
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| GeekBoy 2005-09-17, 10:21 pm |
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"Arnold Walker" <arnoldwalker@consolidated.net> wrote in message
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> "Steve Spence" <sspence@green-trust.org> wrote in message
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> sufficient.
> Now if Honda will release its diesel civic in theUS, that gets better
> milage
> than the hybrid Civic.
>
That will never happen. People in California would be screaming bloody
murder.
The hybrids in CA can obtain a decail that allows a single driver in the Car
Pool Lane.
Seeing the diesel getting better fuel economy than their pricer and less
fuel effecient hybrid would cause problems.
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