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1156 bulb versus CF bulb
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| Tim Thomson 2006-01-15, 11:21 am |
| Does anyone know how much a 1156 12 volt auto buld draws?
What would a 120 volt CF bulb draw on the 12 volt dc side of one of
those cheap crappy tire inverters 75 watt and 400 watt. (rated at 9
watts 120 vac)
This is an RV project..........
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| I typed '1156 bulb' into google and the 1st hit said 12.8 watts.
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| Steve Spence 2006-01-15, 1:21 pm |
| Tim Thomson wrote:
> Does anyone know how much a 1156 12 volt auto buld draws?
> What would a 120 volt CF bulb draw on the 12 volt dc side of one of
> those cheap crappy tire inverters 75 watt and 400 watt. (rated at 9
> watts 120 vac)
> This is an RV project..........
>
Why not just pick up a 12vdc fluorescent from home depot for $11. 6
Watts and a lot of light.
--
Steve Spence
Dir., Green Trust, http://www.green-trust.org
Contributing Editor, http://www.off-grid.net
http://www.rebelwolf.com/essn.html
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| SolarFlaire 2006-01-15, 2:21 pm |
| Because they sell spare tubes right beside the units
and the demo units in the store are half black on the
tubes. It looks like they haven't provided for low
voltage on the inverters and it burns out the tubes
post haste.
How do we know these 12 volt flourescents are any more
efficient than 12 v incandescents and cost 20 times the
price?
"Steve Spence" <sspence@green-trust.org> wrote in
message news:43ca7f76_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> Tim Thomson wrote:
draws?[color=darkred]
dc side of one of[color=darkred]
watt. (rated at 9[color=darkred]
>
> Why not just pick up a 12vdc fluorescent from home
depot for $11. 6
> Watts and a lot of light.
>
>
> --
> Steve Spence
> Dir., Green Trust, http://www.green-trust.org
> Contributing Editor, http://www.off-grid.net
> http://www.rebelwolf.com/essn.html
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| SF:
How do we know these 12 volt flourescents are any more
efficient than 12 v incandescents and cost 20 times the
price?
==============================
Measure the voltas and amps in. Multiply them. If this number is less
then the watts on the 12V bulb, it is drawing less power. Guess you
need some kind of light meter to measure the light output though. (You
changed your handle recently I notice. Reminds me of the Nature Boy
Rick Flaire WoooooHooooo! Ever watch wrasslin?)
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| Steve Spence 2006-01-15, 3:21 pm |
| SolarFlaire wrote:
> Because they sell spare tubes right beside the units
> and the demo units in the store are half black on the
> tubes. It looks like they haven't provided for low
> voltage on the inverters and it burns out the tubes
> post haste.
not true. I use these lights daily. The only one I lost was the one
dropped on the floor when it was being used as a flashlight.
>
> How do we know these 12 volt flourescents are any more
> efficient than 12 v incandescents and cost 20 times the
> price?
look at the lumens per watt. They are 4x as efficient as incandescents.
>
>
> "Steve Spence" <sspence@green-trust.org> wrote in
> message news:43ca7f76_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>
>
> draws?
>
>
> dc side of one of
>
>
> watt. (rated at 9
>
>
> depot for $11. 6
>
>
>
>
--
Steve Spence
Dir., Green Trust, http://www.green-trust.org
Contributing Editor, http://www.off-grid.net
http://www.rebelwolf.com/essn.html
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"Tim Thomson" <thomsontim@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:43CA64AB.6E63F9C0@shaw.ca...
> Does anyone know how much a 1156 12 volt auto buld draws?
> What would a 120 volt CF bulb draw on the 12 volt dc side of one of
> those cheap crappy tire inverters 75 watt and 400 watt. (rated at 9
> watts 120 vac)
> This is an RV project..........
>
The 1156 incandescent draws about 2.1 amps at 12.8V =27W, and provides about
400 lumens for an efficiency of 15 lumens per watt.
An F8T5/CW Fluorescent draws about 0.8 amps at 12.8V =10.2W, and provides
about 400 lumens for an efficiency of 39 lumens per watt. That's over twice
the efficiency of incandescents.
Those inverters generally claim an efficiency of about 75-90%. Check to see
if the inverter draws current when it's not under load. That should still
save you a good deal of power in the long-run over an 1156 bulb.
I have installed some 15W 110V fluorescent strip lights on the ceiling and
walls of my RV, plugging them into small 75W inverters, and they seem to
work quite well, but they don't start as easily, and buzz more loudly than
when running on regular AC.
I'm still waiting for good and affordable white LEDs. At present, they are
very expensive, not much more efficient than incandescents, and the harsh
violet-white light isn't particularly easy on the eyes.
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| On 15 Jan 2006 09:49:21 -0800, "BobG" <bobgardner@aol.com> wrote:
(regarding solar fla_i_re)
>(You changed your handle recently I notice.
Same old pattern. Once each name gets in enough kill filters he
changes it. In the energy groups alone he's already gone through
several variations of both Gymmy Bob and John P Bengi. He uses so many
names that he's frequently confused, and sometimes you'll see him
using two different names in the same thread. Even when he changes
names completely though he's pretty easy to spot. He can't go more
than a week or so without using profanity, accusing someone of being a
troll, rambling incoherently, or complaining about bottom posters.
> Reminds me of the Nature Boy
>Rick Flaire WoooooHooooo!
Naw, more like Ernest P. Worrel.
Wayne
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| Mr Wizzard 2006-01-15, 5:21 pm |
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"Tim Thomson" <thomsontim@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:43CA64AB.6E63F9C0@shaw.ca...
> Does anyone know how much a 1156 12 volt auto buld draws?
> What would a 120 volt CF bulb draw on the 12 volt dc side of one of
> those cheap crappy tire inverters 75 watt and 400 watt. (rated at 9
> watts 120 vac)
> This is an RV project..........
Dude! where have you been? - they have 12-volt CF's now.
(and they rock!) They draw about an Amp on 12 volts, and
can light a whole room damn near. If you want/need info on
then, let me know. I got them on line. Also made a slew of
of camp lights out of come dowel rod, regular lamp sockets,
and 12-volt 7.2 Amp hour batterys on their side (and hot glue)
>
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| Ulysses 2006-01-15, 7:21 pm |
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"JoeSP" <olegp@telus.net> wrote in message
news:Qixyf.82302$AP5.74899@edtnps84...
>
> "Tim Thomson" <thomsontim@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:43CA64AB.6E63F9C0@shaw.ca...
>
> The 1156 incandescent draws about 2.1 amps at 12.8V =27W, and provides
about
> 400 lumens for an efficiency of 15 lumens per watt.
I measured about 2.4 amps at that voltage on one particular bulb but my
meter may have been reading a bit high (cheapo Harbor Fright digital
multimeter).
>
> An F8T5/CW Fluorescent draws about 0.8 amps at 12.8V =10.2W, and provides
> about 400 lumens for an efficiency of 39 lumens per watt. That's over
twice
> the efficiency of incandescents.
I measured .46 amps with one 12" CCFL tube. I don't know how many lumens
but the amount of light seems to me to be more than what you get with one
1156 bulb. The only problem I've had with the CCFL is an inverter failing
due to overvoltage while running it from an RV DC converter. Also, the
light color on the white CCFL tubes is towards the blue spectrum but if you
just think of it as moonlight it's fine ;-).
I have been using one 12" CCFL light daily (well, nightly) for a few years
now and have not noticed any loss of brightness and the tubes do not get
dark at the ends.
>
> Those inverters generally claim an efficiency of about 75-90%. Check to
see
> if the inverter draws current when it's not under load. That should still
> save you a good deal of power in the long-run over an 1156 bulb.
>
> I have installed some 15W 110V fluorescent strip lights on the ceiling and
> walls of my RV, plugging them into small 75W inverters, and they seem to
> work quite well, but they don't start as easily, and buzz more loudly than
> when running on regular AC.
>
> I'm still waiting for good and affordable white LEDs. At present, they
are
> very expensive, not much more efficient than incandescents, and the harsh
> violet-white light isn't particularly easy on the eyes.
>
>
>
>
>
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| Tim Thomson 2006-01-15, 7:21 pm |
| Steve Spence wrote:
> Tim Thomson wrote:
>
> Why not just pick up a 12vdc fluorescent from home depot for $11. 6
> Watts and a lot of light.
>
> --
> Steve Spence
> Dir., Green Trust, http://www.green-trust.org
> Contributing Editor, http://www.off-grid.net
> http://www.rebelwolf.com/essn.html
Why would I when for 2.50 cad I can buy a 120 volt CF? Besides I allready
have a couple of the el cheapo inverters and besdides my Home Depot
doesnt stock the 12 volt ones.
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| Tim Thomson 2006-01-15, 7:21 pm |
| wmbjk wrote:
> On 15 Jan 2006 09:49:21 -0800, "BobG" <bobgardner@aol.com> wrote:
>
> (regarding solar fla_i_re)
>
>
> Same old pattern. Once each name gets in enough kill filters he
> changes it. In the energy groups alone he's already gone through
> several variations of both Gymmy Bob and John P Bengi. He uses so many
> names that he's frequently confused, and sometimes you'll see him
> using two different names in the same thread. Even when he changes
> names completely though he's pretty easy to spot. He can't go more
> than a week or so without using profanity, accusing someone of being a
> troll, rambling incoherently, or complaining about bottom posters.
>
>
> Naw, more like Ernest P. Worrel.
>
> Wayne
Are you talking to me????? I am the same guy as my name!
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| Tim Thomson 2006-01-15, 7:21 pm |
| JoeSP wrote:
> "Tim Thomson" <thomsontim@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:43CA64AB.6E63F9C0@shaw.ca...
>
> The 1156 incandescent draws about 2.1 amps at 12.8V =27W, and provides about
> 400 lumens for an efficiency of 15 lumens per watt.
>
> An F8T5/CW Fluorescent draws about 0.8 amps at 12.8V =10.2W, and provides
> about 400 lumens for an efficiency of 39 lumens per watt. That's over twice
> the efficiency of incandescents.
>
> Those inverters generally claim an efficiency of about 75-90%. Check to see
> if the inverter draws current when it's not under load. That should still
> save you a good deal of power in the long-run over an 1156 bulb.
>
> I have installed some 15W 110V fluorescent strip lights on the ceiling and
> walls of my RV, plugging them into small 75W inverters, and they seem to
> work quite well, but they don't start as easily, and buzz more loudly than
> when running on regular AC.
>
> I'm still waiting for good and affordable white LEDs. At present, they are
> very expensive, not much more efficient than incandescents, and the harsh
> violet-white light isn't particularly easy on the eyes.
I do not need more light than what my four 12 volt 1156 bulbs are giving
me......I did install one of those double mini tube flouresent......(good
quality unit).............but I was not to happy to find out that it draws
allmost the same as one 12 volt 1156 bulb. I want the same amount of light with
less draw I will go 12 volt Cf if I have too.
I would check the draw with my clamp myself with the inverter and the CF but I
am a thousand kms from home stuck in a hotel right now. Where I live I have to
travel 400 kms to get a deal on a CF bulb. I have access to buy the ultra mina
right now at a good price. These ultra minis by Noma claim 120 9w = 40w 500
lumens 6000 hr's at 3.50 cdn. BTW I picked up 6 of the CF Black lights for 6.00
cdn a piece. They put out pretty good as far as black light goes. They get a
little hotter than the white ones but not near as hot as the incadescent black
light used to..........I banned my kids from using those ones.....dam fire
hazard they were. They also have a CF bug light lol.
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| Tim Thomson 2006-01-15, 7:21 pm |
| Ulysses wrote:
[color=darkred]
> "JoeSP" <olegp@telus.net> wrote in message
> news:Qixyf.82302$AP5.74899@edtnps84...
> about
>
> I measured about 2.4 amps at that voltage on one particular bulb but my
> meter may have been reading a bit high (cheapo Harbor Fright digital
> multimeter).
>
> twice
>
> I measured .46 amps with one 12" CCFL tube. I don't know how many lumens
> but the amount of light seems to me to be more than what you get with one
> 1156 bulb. The only problem I've had with the CCFL is an inverter failing
> due to overvoltage while running it from an RV DC converter. Also, the
> light color on the white CCFL tubes is towards the blue spectrum but if you
> just think of it as moonlight it's fine ;-).
>
> I have been using one 12" CCFL light daily (well, nightly) for a few years
> now and have not noticed any loss of brightness and the tubes do not get
> dark at the ends.
>
> see
> are
What is a "ccfl" ?
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| Tim Thomson 2006-01-15, 7:21 pm |
| Mr Wizzard wrote:
[color=darkred]
> "Tim Thomson" <thomsontim@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:43CA64AB.6E63F9C0@shaw.ca...
>
> Dude! where have you been? - they have 12-volt CF's now.
> (and they rock!) They draw about an Amp on 12 volts, and
> can light a whole room damn near. If you want/need info on
> then, let me know. I got them on line. Also made a slew of
> of camp lights out of come dowel rod, regular lamp sockets,
> and 12-volt 7.2 Amp hour batterys on their side (and hot glue)
>
WHAT EVER............There still ten times the price HA HA HA and did you
see how much they want for one of those lanterns with a CF and lol the
batts they take cost more than the lamp.
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| On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:38:57 GMT, Tim Thomson <thomsontim@shaw.ca>
wrote:
>wmbjk wrote:
>
>
>Are you talking to me????? I am the same guy as my name!
No, I was referring to Solar Flaire. AKA Solar Flare, John P Bengi,
Gymmy Bob, etc. etc. Although IIRC Gymmy has used a Shaw address
sometimes.... OK, I got my eye on you now. :-)
Wayne
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| SolarFlaire 2006-01-15, 8:21 pm |
| OK. Lumens per watt. Where is the wattage stated for
the unit and not on the bulb?
"Steve Spence" <sspence@green-trust.org> wrote in
message news:43ca9a90_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> SolarFlaire wrote:
units[color=darkred]
the[color=darkred]
>
> not true. I use these lights daily. The only one I
lost was the one
> dropped on the floor when it was being used as a
flashlight.
>
more[color=darkred]
the[color=darkred]
>
> look at the lumens per watt. They are 4x as efficient
as incandescents.
>
>
>
> --
> Steve Spence
> Dir., Green Trust, http://www.green-trust.org
> Contributing Editor, http://www.off-grid.net
> http://www.rebelwolf.com/essn.html
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| SolarFlaire 2006-01-15, 8:21 pm |
| Have you, or can you, actually measure the imput
current and voltage for one, or more, for a sample? I,
for one, would be interested in the actual power
consumption of the inverter.
JoeSp stated:
"The 1156 incandescent draws about 2.1 amps at 12.8V
=27W, and provides about
400 lumens for an efficiency of 15 lumens per watt.
An F8T5/CW Fluorescent draws about 0.8 amps at 12.8V
=10.2W, and provides
about 400 lumens for an efficiency of 39 lumens per
watt. That's over twice
the efficiency of incandescents"
This indicates a regular incandescent is about the same
efficiency as the 1156 at 400 lumens per watt. There
must be a typo, wordo, or matho there.
More data needed if anybody has it please.
"Mr Wizzard" <wiz@muffy-mail.com> wrote in message
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> "Tim Thomson" <thomsontim@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:43CA64AB.6E63F9C0@shaw.ca...
draws?[color=darkred]
dc side of one of[color=darkred]
watt. (rated at 9[color=darkred]
>
>
> Dude! where have you been? - they have 12-volt CF's
now.
> (and they rock!) They draw about an Amp on 12 volts,
and
> can light a whole room damn near. If you want/need
info on
> then, let me know. I got them on line. Also made a
slew of
> of camp lights out of come dowel rod, regular lamp
sockets,
> and 12-volt 7.2 Amp hour batterys on their side (and
hot glue)
>
>
>
>
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| Steve Spence 2006-01-15, 8:21 pm |
| Tim Thomson wrote:
> Mr Wizzard wrote:
>
>
>
> WHAT EVER............There still ten times the price HA HA HA and did you
> see how much they want for one of those lanterns with a CF and lol the
> batts they take cost more than the lamp.
>
>
$11 bucks at Home Depot, they take 8 AA's or a 12vdc plugin.
--
Steve Spence
Dir., Green Trust, http://www.green-trust.org
Contributing Editor, http://www.off-grid.net
http://www.rebelwolf.com/essn.html
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| SolarFlaire 2006-01-15, 8:21 pm |
| Thanx
OK, I can take that as pretty accurate (ignoring
harmonic accuracy not proven yet)
What is the rating of the CF bulb then?
"Steve Spence" <sspence@green-trust.org> wrote in
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> SolarFlaire wrote:
>
for[color=darkred]
> 6 watts according to my KAW .....
>
> --
> Steve Spence
> Dir., Green Trust, http://www.green-trust.org
> Contributing Editor, http://www.off-grid.net
> http://www.rebelwolf.com/essn.html
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SolarFlaire wrote:
> Thanx
> OK, I can take that as pretty accurate (ignoring
> harmonic accuracy not proven yet)
>
> What is the rating of the CF bulb then?
330 lumens 6 watts $1.75 replacement cost
6000 hour life, rated at 8 watts, but only draws 6 on a switching walwart.
http://www.bulbconnection.com/ViewI...5%2FD/item.html
--
Steve Spence
Dir., Green Trust, http://www.green-trust.org
Contributing Editor, http://www.off-grid.net
http://www.rebelwolf.com/essn.html
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| JoeSP 2006-01-15, 10:21 pm |
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"SolarFlaire" <sf@hot.mail.invalid> wrote in message
news:Zqmdnav_stWiRlfenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@golden.net...
> Have you, or can you, actually measure the imput
> current and voltage for one, or more, for a sample? I,
> for one, would be interested in the actual power
> consumption of the inverter.
>
> JoeSp stated:
> "The 1156 incandescent draws about 2.1 amps at 12.8V
> =27W, and provides about
> 400 lumens for an efficiency of 15 lumens per watt.
>
> An F8T5/CW Fluorescent draws about 0.8 amps at 12.8V
> =10.2W, and provides
> about 400 lumens for an efficiency of 39 lumens per
> watt. That's over twice
> the efficiency of incandescents"
>
> This indicates a regular incandescent is about the same
> efficiency as the 1156 at 400 lumens per watt. There
> must be a typo, wordo, or matho there.
>
> More data needed if anybody has it please.
It's not 400 lumens per watt. Both produce 400 Lumens (brightness)
Incandescent = 15 Lumens per watt. (less efficient)
Fluorescent = 39 lumens per watt. (more efficient)
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| Mr Wizzard 2006-01-15, 11:21 pm |
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"Tim Thomson" <thomsontim@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:43CAD544.5A837899@shaw.ca...
> Mr Wizzard wrote:
>
>
> WHAT EVER............There still ten times the price HA HA HA
$12 for a 13W 12-volt CF that draws .86 Amps @12v is bad ?
hummm. Better go back and rethink this I guess.
> and did you
> see how much they want for one of those lanterns with a CF and lol the
> batts they take cost more than the lamp.
No idea what this is. I'm a DIY guy, hot glue gun, hobby battery's,
12-v CF's, old lamp sockets, miniture decoverative lamp shade...
>
>
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| clare at snyder.on.ca 2006-01-16, 1:21 am |
| On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 15:06:15 GMT, Tim Thomson <thomsontim@shaw.ca>
wrote:
>Does anyone know how much a 1156 12 volt auto buld draws?
>What would a 120 volt CF bulb draw on the 12 volt dc side of one of
>those cheap crappy tire inverters 75 watt and 400 watt. (rated at 9
>watts 120 vac)
>This is an RV project..........
1156 draws aprox 2.1 amps at 12.8 volts, for 27 watts.
If the cf, rated at 9 watts is only 90% efficient, it could actually
consume 10 watts. If the inverter has an overhead of 5 watts and a
conversion efficiency of 90%you are looking at 16 watts - just over
half the power consumed by the 1156.
Your lamp and inverter efficiency may vary.
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| Tim Thomson 2006-01-16, 10:21 am |
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clare, at, snyder.on.ca wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 15:06:15 GMT, Tim Thomson <thomsontim@shaw.ca>
> wrote:
>
> 1156 draws aprox 2.1 amps at 12.8 volts, for 27 watts.
> If the cf, rated at 9 watts is only 90% efficient, it could actually
> consume 10 watts. If the inverter has an overhead of 5 watts and a
> conversion efficiency of 90%you are looking at 16 watts - just over
> half the power consumed by the 1156.
> Your lamp and inverter efficiency may vary.
Thats about what I thought more light and half the draw then! Good!
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| Vaughn 2006-01-16, 11:21 am |
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"Mr Wizzard" <wiz@muffy-mail.com> wrote in message
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>
> New 12-volt bulb they have out now: ($7)
> http://doityourself.com/store/6096622.htm
I think this one is 12 watts, but not 12 volts.
>
> The ones I got are the Feit BPESL13T/MAR-12 ($12)
> (at the bottom of this page
> http://www.cetsolar.com/compactfluorescent.htm
These are 12 volts and they are great lamps, been using them for years for
yard lighting. Someday I will run some 12 volt circuits so I can use them
inside.
Vaughn
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| Mr Wizzard 2006-01-16, 5:21 pm |
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"Vaughn" <vaughnsimonHATESSPAM@att.fake.net> wrote in message
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> "Mr Wizzard" <wiz@muffy-mail.com> wrote in message
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> I think this one is 12 watts, but not 12 volts.
>
>
> These are 12 volts and they are great lamps, been using them for
years for
> yard lighting. Someday I will run some 12 volt circuits so I can use them
> inside.
Yard lighting??? That Feit number I give ya (~13T/MAR-12)
is a full-size CF w/ standard Edison base (and not water proof).
And they are 12-v "DC", so I'm interested in your set up. When
I hear "yard lighting", I think 12-volt "AC", cheesy Malibu lights,
zip cord all tangled in beauty bark, and wrapped around the rose
bushes, and them goofy-XXX connectors that NOone can get to
work. So how do you power your "yard lights" ?
>
> Vaughn
>
>
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| Vaughn 2006-01-16, 6:21 pm |
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"Mr Wizzard" <wiz@muffy-mail.com> wrote in message
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>
> years for
>
> Yard lighting??? That Feit number I give ya (~13T/MAR-12)
> is a full-size CF w/ standard Edison base (and not water proof).
> And they are 12-v "DC", so I'm interested in your set up. When
> I hear "yard lighting", I think 12-volt "AC", cheesy Malibu lights,
> zip cord all tangled in beauty bark, and wrapped around the rose
> bushes, and them goofy-XXX connectors that NOone can get to
> work. So how do you power your "yard lights" ?
Not yard lighting as in "accent lighting" but real area anti-crime and
convenience lighting. I power them with a set of 4 batteries that also serves
as the starting battery for my generator & for hurricane power. The battery is
charged with two mismatched solar panels that add up to about 100 watts. A
little Trace C12 controller does everything (charge control, LVD, & lamp
control). I put those Feit lamps in ordinary porch light fixtures and connect
them with the heavy size Malibu light cable. After several years, I am still
waiting for the first lamp to fail.
Vaughn
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| Mr Wizzard 2006-01-16, 9:21 pm |
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> Not yard lighting as in "accent lighting" but real area anti-crime
and
> convenience lighting. I power them with a set of 4 batteries that also
serves
> as the starting battery for my generator & for hurricane power. The
battery is
> charged with two mismatched solar panels that add up to about 100 watts.
A
> little Trace C12 controller does everything (charge control, LVD, & lamp
> control). I put those Feit lamps in ordinary porch light fixtures and
connect
> them with the heavy size Malibu light cable. After several years, I am
still
> waiting for the first lamp to fail.
Dude, you ROCK!. You are "all over" this.
Trace engineering makes excelent products.
I'm wanting one of their 3KW inverters to
use with this load of 105AH brand new TelCo
batteries I got, but I just can't swing that price.
And its truely "good" that you were thinking
about LVD. The only thing "wrong" with your
rig that that fricken Malibu light cable hehe...
(sorry, I had to stick that in - I hate that stuff)
Too stiff to work with in the cold, expensive,
and did I mention, I jsut hate the stuff? hehe.
For LV stuff, I use 12-guage speaker cable -
I found it at a local hardware store to actually
be cheaper than 16 gague zip cord, can u believe?
And since one of them Feit 12-volt CF's only draw
..86 Amps, all you really need is ordinary household
zip cord (unless you are feeding a large string of em)
Anyway, thats way off on a tangent. So what kind
of batteries you got? Some sort of Hawker AGM ?
(or regular 15ah gel-cells ?) And yeah, aint them
Feit 12-volt CF's something? - man, they do get
bright after being on for some time, don't they?
I never even thought of using them for outside.
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| Windsun 2006-01-17, 12:21 am |
| General Information
Our Part #: SL36521
Manufacturer: Sylvania
Manufacturer Code: 1156
Price: $2.68 Each
Case Size: 1000 ($2,680.00/Case)
Specifications
Light Output: 402 lumens
Energy Used: 27 watts
Average Lifetime: 1,200 hours
Volts: 13
Bulb Type: S8
Base Type: S.C. Bayonet
Length: 2 inches
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27 watts at 400 lumens for the 1156, or 8 watts at 400 lumens for this:
http://store.solar-electric.com/tl-191.html
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| idundidit 2006-01-17, 5:21 am |
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| Vaughn 2006-01-17, 8:21 am |
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> of batteries you got? Some sort of Hawker AGM ?
> (or regular 15ah gel-cells ?)
Like I said, they serve as the cranking battery for my generator, which is
an Onan, which takes lost of starting current so gell-cells would hardly do.
They are (now rather elderly) AGM's. Don't remember the make.
> And yeah, aint them
> Feit 12-volt CF's something? - man, they do get
> bright after being on for some time, don't they?
> I never even thought of using them for outside.
I don't understand why they are not more popular.
Vaughn
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| Tim Thomson 2006-01-17, 10:21 am |
| Thin-lite.........that is what I put above the sink in my RV a small double
tube Thin-lite. I cant remember the exact model #. It doesn't give me the
light I want and it draws allmost the same as one 1156. At least my clamp
tells me so.
Just a note.... I put a CF in my photo sensor fixture at my back
door(against the maunfacture rules).......figured it would work fine and it
does. The photo fixture I am talking about has a relay switching method
built in. I can hear it clik.
Windsun wrote:
> General Information
> Our Part #: SL36521
> Manufacturer: Sylvania
> Manufacturer Code: 1156
> Price: $2.68 Each
> Case Size: 1000 ($2,680.00/Case)
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> Specifications
> Light Output: 402 lumens
> Energy Used: 27 watts
> Average Lifetime: 1,200 hours
> Volts: 13
> Bulb Type: S8
> Base Type: S.C. Bayonet
> Length: 2 inches
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> 27 watts at 400 lumens for the 1156, or 8 watts at 400 lumens for this:
> http://store.solar-electric.com/tl-191.html
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> Like I said, they serve as the cranking battery for my generator,
which is
> an Onan, which takes lost of starting current so gell-cells would hardly
do.
> They are (now rather elderly) AGM's. Don't remember the make.
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> I don't understand why they are not more popular.
Yeah, I was trying to figger that out myself...
My theory is that its the "base" - not an RV
type guy, but most RV's don't have regular
Edison (standard bulb) base sockets, do they ?
For me if was great - took a few of them clamp
on aluminum cone lights you see at HomeDepot
or the hardware store, hacked off the plugs, and
put on cigarette lighter plugs. Use em in/on/with
the truck and boat. They are just great! - love em.
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