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permanent magnet generator
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| homeboy465 2006-12-08, 1:25 pm |
| Does anuyone know where i can get hold of cheep permanent magnet generators
and gear systems for increasing revolutions un the UK? I can find a few in
the US but the shipping is almost as much as the generator its self.
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homeboy465 wrote:
> Does anuyone know where i can get hold of cheep permanent magnet generators
> and gear systems for increasing revolutions un the UK? I can find a few in
> the US but the shipping is almost as much as the generator its self.
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I know of a group that is trying to increase revolutions in the middle
east. Don't know when they plan to start trying in the UK.
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| Eeyore 2006-12-08, 1:25 pm |
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homeboy465 wrote:
> Does anuyone know where i can get hold of cheep permanent magnet generators
> and gear systems for increasing revolutions un the UK? I can find a few in
> the US but the shipping is almost as much as the generator its self.
>
" for increasing revolutions un the UK "
???????
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| Eeyore 2006-12-08, 1:25 pm |
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homeboy465 wrote:
> Does anuyone know where i can get hold of cheep permanent magnet generators
> and gear systems for increasing revolutions un the UK? I can find a few in
> the US but the shipping is almost as much as the generator its self.
" for increasing revolutions un the UK "
???????
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| homeboy465 2006-12-08, 5:25 pm |
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"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> homeboy465 wrote:
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> " for increasing revolutions un the UK "
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> ???????
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yes eeyore i do have a problem with the fast that i sometimes make mistakes
when typing and my spelling is terible but if you havn;t got anything
tconstructive to sat then don;t say anything you just seem to be here to
tajke the piss out of everyone that arn;t conected to your XXX
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| homeboy465 2006-12-08, 5:25 pm |
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"BobG" <bobgardner@aol.com> wrote in message
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> homeboy465 wrote:
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> I know of a group that is trying to increase revolutions in the middle
> east. Don't know when they plan to start trying in the UK.
>
um i don;t think i explained it correctally i was watching a program, the
other day and this guy (the 1 that invented the clockwork radio) just coved
in to a house down cornwall and to power his house or at least some of it he
built a water wheel which only only turned at about 60 revs a minute he then
attached that to a 1-44.2 geer system which was something salvaged from
another machine it was at least 10 years old if not older and then atached
tat output to the generator and i want to try something simalart just minus
the water wheel. at a push i know a few people in the dockyard that with a
bit of persuation could build me a gear system but it would be expensive but
the generator i know wuill have to be new but i have no idea what suppliers
there are.
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| Eeyore 2006-12-08, 5:25 pm |
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homeboy465 wrote:
> "BobG" <bobgardner@aol.com> wrote in message
> um i don;t think i explained it correctally i was watching a program, the
> other day and this guy (the 1 that invented the clockwork radio)
You mean the programme "it's hard being green" ? That's not Trevor Bayliss fwiw.
> just coved
> in to a house down cornwall and to power his house or at least some of it he
> built a water wheel which only only turned at about 60 revs a minute he then
> attached that to a 1-44.2 geer system which was something salvaged from
> another machine it was at least 10 years old if not older and then atached
> tat output to the generator and i want to try something simalart just minus
> the water wheel. at a push i know a few people in the dockyard that with a
> bit of persuation could build me a gear system but it would be expensive but
> the generator i know wuill have to be new but i have no idea what suppliers
> there are.
He's not using a permanent magnet generator IIRC. There's a field coil powered
from a battery I think ( which then gets recharged from the outout of the
generator ). Probably just a normal alternator actually.
I have seen some permanent magnet alternators for home construction though. A
guy working on wind power in Scotland published his design online.
http://www.scoraigwind.com/
Graham
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| Gordon Richmond 2006-12-08, 8:25 pm |
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>"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>yes eeyore i do have a problem with the fast that i sometimes make mistakes
>when typing and my spelling is terible but if you havn;t got anything
>tconstructive to sat then don;t say anything you just seem to be here to
>tajke the piss out of everyone that arn;t conected to your XXX
>
If you can't be bothered to communicate your question clearly, why should anyone else feel
the need to give you a constructive answer. The way you posed your question gives us leave
to wonder if you truly know which end of hammer to hold.
Gordon Richmond
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| Eeyore 2006-12-08, 8:25 pm |
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homeboy465 wrote:
> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> yes eeyore i do have a problem with the fast that i sometimes make mistakes
> when typing and my spelling is terible
It's more the case that I couldn't even begin to work out what on earth you
meant !
> but if you havn;t got anything
> tconstructive to sat then don;t say anything you just seem to be here to
> tajke the piss out of everyone that arn;t conected to your XXX
Before you completely jump out of your pram, see my other reply.
Graham
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| clare at snyder.on.ca 2006-12-08, 8:25 pm |
| On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 21:44:58 GMT, "homeboy465"
<homeboy465@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>"BobG" <bobgardner@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:1165595020.466189.296660@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>um i don;t think i explained it correctally i was watching a program, the
>other day and this guy (the 1 that invented the clockwork radio) just coved
>in to a house down cornwall and to power his house or at least some of it he
>built a water wheel which only only turned at about 60 revs a minute he then
>attached that to a 1-44.2 geer system which was something salvaged from
>another machine it was at least 10 years old if not older and then atached
>tat output to the generator and i want to try something simalart just minus
>the water wheel. at a push i know a few people in the dockyard that with a
>bit of persuation could build me a gear system but it would be expensive but
>the generator i know wuill have to be new but i have no idea what suppliers
>there are.
>
How big do you want? What voltage and current rating?
You can use an automotive heater fan motor, an automotive radiator fan
motor, or even a permanent magnet starter motor.
A windscreen wiper motor also works, and has a built in gear drive -
as does a power window motor if you are looking for low voltage and
relatively low power output.
A treadmill motor works for higher output voltage and power.
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Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| Adam Swire 2006-12-09, 3:25 am |
| Who says GCSE standards are slipping?????
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> homeboy465 wrote:
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mistakes[color=darkred]
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> It's more the case that I couldn't even begin to work out what on earth
you
> meant !
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> Before you completely jump out of your pram, see my other reply.
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> Graham
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| homeboy465 2006-12-09, 9:25 am |
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"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> homeboy465 wrote:
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> You mean the programme "it's hard being green" ? That's not Trevor Bayliss
> fwiw.
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no it is a bbc program called it's not easy being green and it is Richatd
'Dick' Strawbridge and his family. this is the acompanying website
http://www.itsnoteasybeinggreen.org/
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| homeboy465 2006-12-09, 9:25 am |
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<clare at snyder.on.ca> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 21:44:58 GMT, "homeboy465"
> <homeboy465@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> How big do you want? What voltage and current rating?
> You can use an automotive heater fan motor, an automotive radiator fan
> motor, or even a permanent magnet starter motor.
> A windscreen wiper motor also works, and has a built in gear drive -
> as does a power window motor if you are looking for low voltage and
> relatively low power output.
>
> A treadmill motor works for higher output voltage and power.
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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i;m looking at anythi g that gives about 12 volts at 3 amps but higher is
better as i want to start with some small tests around the home but move on
to using it for several things at once whick means i will need it to
produce more evectricty as i start to use it for more things i can always
not use it to it's fll potential at first but if i want to expand then i
don;t want to have to get anotther after second hand ones are a good iea but
ut us hard to get secondhand parts over her cause all the working ones are
usually whiped up by rtepair copmpanys and as soon as they are available.
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| homeboy465 2006-12-09, 9:25 am |
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"Gordon Richmond" <richmond@telusplanet.net> wrote in message
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> If you can't be bothered to communicate your question clearly, why should
> anyone else feel
> the need to give you a constructive answer. The way you posed your
> question gives us leave
> to wonder if you truly know which end of hammer to hold.
>
> Gordon Richmond
>maybe not everyone here is a stuck-up twit this is supposed to be about
>helping each other and promoting ideas it isn;t supposed to be about
>people moaning about others comunication skills. i amended the problem but
>i have had some direct emals from people that did understand what i was
>refering to.
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| homeboy465 2006-12-09, 9:25 am |
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"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> homeboy465 wrote:
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> It's more the case that I couldn't even begin to work out what on earth
> you
> meant !
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> Before you completely jump out of your pram, see my other reply.
>
> Graham
>
>it would have been more polite to ask me to just reitterate then to
>complain about my comunication skills i am wprking on them but my skills
>have never been that way inclines but if you look through history some of
>the best skilled workers couldn't read or write and some still can't so
>please excuse me or being one of these people.
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| clare at snyder.on.ca 2006-12-09, 1:25 pm |
| On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 11:56:49 GMT, "homeboy465"
<homeboy465@hotmail.com> wrote:
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><clare at snyder.on.ca> wrote in message
>news:1o0kn21dt419rcf3p872h9fvro3s0hkhnd@4ax.com...
>i;m looking at anythi g that gives about 12 volts at 3 amps but higher is
>better as i want to start with some small tests around the home but move on
>to using it for several things at once whick means i will need it to
>produce more evectricty as i start to use it for more things i can always
>not use it to it's fll potential at first but if i want to expand then i
>don;t want to have to get anotther after second hand ones are a good iea but
>ut us hard to get secondhand parts over her cause all the working ones are
>usually whiped up by rtepair copmpanys and as soon as they are available.
>
For 12 volts you want a 24 volt or higher DC permanent magnet motor. I
have a few DC servo motors that would do the trick, but they are in
Canada and pretty heavy. Tape drive motors like the Ametec units also
work good and were widely available as surplus. Your best bet,
currently, is likely a treadmill motor, but if you are in a 2220 volt
area the output will be higher than 12 volts!!
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| Eeyore 2006-12-09, 1:25 pm |
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homeboy465 wrote:
> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> no it is a bbc program called it's not easy being green
Ok - I didn't recall the name exactly.
> and it is Richatd
> 'Dick' Strawbridge and his family. this is the acompanying website
Yes, that's the one I had in mind. He didn't invent the wind-up radio though.
> http://www.itsnoteasybeinggreen.org/
I didn't know about that. Thanks for the link.
The programme's been very interesting in many different ways.
Graham
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| Eeyore 2006-12-09, 1:25 pm |
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Adam Swire wrote:
> Who says GCSE standards are slipping?????
LMAO !
Surely you mean A-level ?
Graham
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| Eeyore 2006-12-09, 1:25 pm |
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homeboy465 wrote:
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What did you think this was ?
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Looks to me like a concise request for a clarification.
Good communications ability is a vital skill btw. Ignore the need for it at your
peril.
Graham
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| homeboy465 2006-12-09, 5:25 pm |
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<clare at snyder.on.ca> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 11:56:49 GMT, "homeboy465"
> <homeboy465@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> For 12 volts you want a 24 volt or higher DC permanent magnet motor. I
> have a few DC servo motors that would do the trick, but they are in
> Canada and pretty heavy. Tape drive motors like the Ametec units also
> work good and were widely available as surplus. Your best bet,
> currently, is likely a treadmill motor, but if you are in a 2220 volt
> area the output will be higher than 12 volts!!
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>
Thank you very much for that information I will take it into consideration
if you do find any more information or anything else I can use I would love
to hear.
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| Solar Flare 2006-12-10, 8:25 pm |
| Higher voltages give charging at lower RPM speeds. The voltage peak
will be clipped off by the battery voltage anyway. Careful if you ever
open circuit the monster though. My 48vdc battery was disconnected
from the controller and it went up in smoke. I measured 200vac before
I got the short circuits back in.
"homeboy465" <homeboy465@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> <clare at snyder.on.ca> wrote in message
> news:hf0mn25lukq29nejk05go0ip351n8gst93@4ax.com...
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> Thank you very much for that information I will take it into
> consideration if you do find any more information or anything else I
> can use I would love to hear.
>
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| homeboy465 2006-12-11, 9:25 am |
| no way? thats nasty have you got any driagrams of your system or photos? i'm
mainally doing research for personal use at the moment so anyother systems
thatt i can look at are much welcomed.
"Solar Flare" <solaerfart@hootmail.invalidated> wrote in message
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> Higher voltages give charging at lower RPM speeds. The voltage peak will
> be clipped off by the battery voltage anyway. Careful if you ever open
> circuit the monster though. My 48vdc battery was disconnected from the
> controller and it went up in smoke. I measured 200vac before I got the
> short circuits back in.
>
> "homeboy465" <homeboy465@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:MYFeh.52003$Pk.14021@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
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| Solar Flare 2006-12-11, 9:25 pm |
| I have created schematics for my wind turbine controller after a few
parts went up in flames. I have modified the circuit so it is less
likely to do it again. They had a 7812 regulator to run the level
detection circuits and because it's input has a max 30vdc they used an
LM317 down regulator to feed that. The inoput to that chip is max
50vdc and it was destined to burn up on a 63v (totally full) battery
sooner or later.
The control circuit is pretty simple two 3 phase full wave rectifier
bridges. One feeds the battery bank and one feeds a couple of voltage
level detectors. One is for low voltage cutout and drops out a relay
to disconnect loads upon dead batteries (42v). The other voltage level
detector (63v) detects over charging the batteries and picks up a
relay putting a heater laod and two muffin fans to disapate some of
the enery from a highly active windmill.
"homeboy465" <homeboy465@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> no way? thats nasty have you got any driagrams of your system or
> photos? i'm mainally doing research for personal use at the moment
> so anyother systems thatt i can look at are much welcomed.
>
> "Solar Flare" <solaerfart@hootmail.invalidated> wrote in message
> news:jr2dndaoy_JbL-HYnZ2dnUVZ_qCmnZ2d@golden.net...
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| Eeyore 2006-12-12, 3:25 am |
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Solar Flare wrote:
> I have created schematics for my wind turbine controller after a few
> parts went up in flames. I have modified the circuit so it is less
> likely to do it again. They had a 7812 regulator to run the level
> detection circuits and because it's input has a max 30vdc they used an
> LM317 down regulator to feed that. The inoput to that chip is max
> 50vdc and it was destined to burn up on a 63v (totally full) battery
> sooner or later.
Use a TL783.
Graham
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| homeboy465 2006-12-12, 9:25 am |
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"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Solar Flare wrote:
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> Use a TL783.
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> Graham
>
I'm not entirly every componant,chip and circuit out there lol. what would
be he direcht benifit of changing to the TL?
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| Solar Flare 2006-12-12, 5:25 pm |
| I was looking for a regulator that would be capable of a high
input-output voltage like the TL783 and could not find one in a few
nights search. All the listed high voltage units I could find then
were good up to 125v but with only 20-30v dropout from input to
output.
I finally gave up and used a zener circuit to drop it to about 20v and
then into the 7812. I used four 82 volt, 20K joule MOVs where they
had not installed the main capacitor to alleviate some of the
posibility of high voltage into the controller for the next time the
wind turbine goes open circuited. They gonna go **bang** probably in
the next hurricane though...LOL
"homeboy465" <homeboy465@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I'm not entirly every componant,chip and circuit out there lol. what
> would be he direcht benifit of changing to the TL783?
>
>
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| homeboy465 2006-12-13, 9:25 am |
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"Solar Flare" <solaerfart@hootmail.invalidated> wrote in message
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>I was looking for a regulator that would be capable of a high input-output
>voltage like the TL783 and could not find one in a few nights search. All
>the listed high voltage units I could find then were good up to 125v but
>with only 20-30v dropout from input to output.
>
> I finally gave up and used a zener circuit to drop it to about 20v and
> then into the 7812. I used four 82 volt, 20K joule MOVs where they had
> not installed the main capacitor to alleviate some of the posibility of
> high voltage into the controller for the next time the wind turbine goes
> open circuited. They gonna go **bang** probably in the next hurricane
> though...LOL
>
> "homeboy465" <homeboy465@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
it's never good when things go bang when there is no combustion involved
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| HeyBub 2006-12-17, 5:25 pm |
| homeboy465 wrote:
> My comunication skills are improving sligtly I have only taken
> english at gcse level (I did progress to college on a microcomputer
> course) and I must admit that I did do porly in my english exams but
> at present I am not in any state to go back into education for that
> though I am working towards it.
But you can get a spell-checker (or, in the UK, a "spellchequer") for FREE!
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