Alternative Power sources - Re: OT: this is why ideology/ideologues suck

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Re: OT: this is why ideology/ideologues suck

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2006-02-11, 5:21 pm

tonyp wrote:
> <nicksanspam@ece.villanova.edu> wrote
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> Wait a minute. If a square foot of plastic sheet costs 5 cents, that
> _includes_ the cost of the petroleum it's made from -- plus all the oil it
> took to process it and transport it to the store. What is Gunner driving
> at?

Gunner wants to count every price TWICE to make it look like solutions
are more expensive than they really are. The RETAIL price includes
"amortization" but he wants to count that seperately and ADD it to the
retail price. The cost of "labor" is in the retail price, but he wants
to count it separately and ADD it to the retail price. The profit
margin is in the retail price but he wants to ADD it to the retail
price and count it twice.

In short, "Gunner" is a conman attempting a con-job for reasons
unexplained. He also is revealing himself as incompetent in research
and cognitive abilities. Why "Gunner" would deliberately embarrass
himself in public cannot be explained either unless on resorts to some
desperation for attention and low self-esteem. Really, Gunner wants
people to feel sorry for his handicaps and defects, even if they are
self-inflicted.

Tony Wesley

2006-02-14, 2:21 am

Gunner wrote:
> I noticed Tony suggested that one live out of a beer chest..which goes
> back to my original comment about living in a well insulated igloo
> with LEDs for a lighting source.

I'm sorry to hear about your reading comprehension problem. I pointed
out that real fridgeration is a hell of a lot more efficient than
peltier. Since you say you've helped people get off the grid, one
wonders just how much help you've given them.

> While it may be neat to have one in the cab of your truck...it sure as
> hell isnt going to store much victuals for the real world. He suggests
> that this is the Way Solar Will Save Us All..using beer chests for
> keeping your food from rotting.

I guess this is your way of conceding to me. Since you haven't even
begun to discuss what I mentioned, you've made a strawman and knock it
down. Too bad it's a defacto admission that you don't have any
counter.

I didn't mention solar at all. FWIW, I don't have one bit of solar. I
live firmly in the fossil fuel word, with some of my electricity
provided by Fermi II. (Don't ask about Fermi I. We'd rather not think
about it.)

My peltier cooler is used to keep lunch meat and cheese cold when I
drive on vacation. I feel real sorry for the people who you've helped
get off the grid, if you have them using peltier coolers. A Maytag
MTB1956 will use under 1500 watt hours per day (from
http://www.backwoodssolar.com/Catal...2/refriger2.htm). My little
cooler uses about 1440 watt hours and it doesn't even keep things
decently cold.

Guido

2006-02-20, 4:21 pm

On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 20:01:39 GMT, wmbjk <wmbjkREMOVE@citlink.net>
wrote:

>On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:23:28 -0600, "Jeff McCann"
><NoSpam@NoThanks.org> wrote:
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>No, he was replying to me, wmbjk. And that was after he claimed that
>I'd been escaping his filter by nymshifting. BS on both counts, and
>you can bet he doesn't have the guts to apologize for it. But if you
>or Gunner think I'm Tim May, then I invite you both to put some money
>on that, lots of money. Well, you at least, Gunner doesn't have any to
>bet. How much are you in for?
>

I'm still waiting for the coward to email me his nasty virus that he
said broke his plonker a month or so ago.

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