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Windsun

2006-02-11, 10:21 pm


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I find that statement interesting. How many states do you know that are
willing to give up 7% of all their land?

And how do you get the PV power in AZ moved to the diesel trucks in NJ?


Cliff

2006-02-15, 7:21 pm

On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:59:20 -0500, Stuart Grey <stuart.grey@comcast.net> wrote:

>Steve Spence wrote:
>
>I have no problem with the word "mine" used by PV-H2, or what ever he
>calls himself. His intent was clear, and the concept sound. The only
>think I had issues with was scale and practicality, he grossly
>overstated the case for doing so, according to the numbers I came up with.
>
>I asked him to back up what he said, and he went wacky on me off on all
>kinds of subjects.
>
>Now, you're going to quibble about the word "mine"? Mine, extract,
>produce... whatever.


Producing Hydrogen, storing it, transporting it and then later trying
to produce liquid fuels from coals & suchlike via hydrogenation with
it is far less efficient then direct hydrogenation, such as is used today.
You might just use solar heating via mirrors to drive the more direct
hydrogenation process.

http://www.cheresources.com/refining5.shtml

http://www.answers.com/topic/hydrogen
"Hydrogen is prepared commercially by catalytic reaction of steam with
hydrocarbons, by the reaction of steam with hot coke (carbon) .."

Probably not much thruput per square yard of mirrors .... but much
more than the other proposed route.
--
Cliff
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