Alternative Power sources - Re: Gasoline price gouging

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Re: Gasoline price gouging

copperhead

2007-05-24, 1:25 pm

On May 23, 5:25 pm, Broderick Crawford >
> You can thank the environmental retards for high gas prices. Every >state has it's own gas formula therefore refineries cannot keep up with >all the mixes. Happens every spring and summer now. Now they want >to have state standards for auto emissions.

Oh please. It has nothing to do with environmentalists. Nobody has
built a new refinery for 30 years. They've been closing them. In
fact, Exxon is currently shutting down parts of its refinery
operations in Baton Rouge (where, by the way gas prices are HIGHER
than further out from the refinery).

They know it's over. They're just trying to squeeze all they can out
of us while they can. The media credits the rise in prices to supply
and demand, and that's just crap. They raise and lower prices
arbitrarily and continue to make record profits because they know
there's not much left, and they haven't had time to find anlternate
ways to make a buck. But don't worry, they will. And then we'll pay
for that.

Probably Helium Three mined from the moon to run fusion reactors.

Dan Bloomquist

2007-05-24, 5:25 pm

bill wrote:
> On May 24, 10:58 am, copperhead <copperhead...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> OTOH, they could be planning ahead for peak oil. if it is
> imminent, then investing more capital in new refineries would be
> beyond stupid.
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U.S. refinery utilization has been running 90%+ for going on two
decades. We import 5mb/d of refinery product now, so it hardly has much
to do with domestic capacity.

Why should oil companies build more refinery capacity if there is no
production capacity to back it up?

It is not planning for peak oil, it is peak oil.....

cognite tute

2007-05-25, 1:25 pm

Shawn

2007-05-25, 8:25 pm

bill wrote:
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> Yeah, all that drilling in the anwr makes that pretty obvious
> doesn't it? Environmentalists have caused directly, EVERY major
> problem facing the world today, from peak oil to global warming, to
> the us obesity problem. easily backed up, checked and verified, we'd
> be living in a borderline utopia if the environmentallists had been
> lined up and shot in 1950. we'd be producing 50% of our electric
> power by hydro, another 20 with wind, and the balance in nuclear,
> freeing up the coal for coal liquefecation and the nat. gas for
> residential heating.
> this isn't theory, well meaning idiots caused all our problems.
> road to hell indeed.
>

Course all yer kids would have six legs and ears on their necks, and
life expectancy would be down to 40 years due to the 100% cancer rate by
age 35.
But ya know, carbon in the atmosphere would be lots lower.
Interesting vision of Utopia.

cognite tute

2007-05-27, 8:25 pm

Shawn wrote:
> bill wrote:
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> Course all yer kids would have six legs and ears on their necks, and
> life expectancy would be down to 40 years due to the 100% cancer rate by
> age 35.
> But ya know, carbon in the atmosphere would be lots lower.
> Interesting vision of Utopia.
\20 % of our electricity comes from nuclear.

there weren't any environmentalists in 1950.

there isn't sufficient hydro supplies for 50 % of our elect supply.

no spam

2007-05-29, 9:25 am

>
> Wake up and smell the biodiesel, dude. Environmentalists have NO say
> at all in what oil companies do or do not do. If Exxon wanted to pave
> the entire state of New Jersey for a refinery parking lot the
> government would hand them the permit and probably supply the tar.

Wake up and smell the law suits. Have you EVER tried to build anything in
the last 10 years? You can't dig a hole to plant a tree w/o an
environmental impact study to make sure you are not disturbing some
protected something or to make sure that the sap run off from your tree
isn't going to effect the water supply.

Add to that the NIMBY's who want everything from scented toilet paper to
gasoline but don't want a smelly paper mill or oil refinery near THEIR house
and you get business and jobs leaving the area, and the USA, and/or higher
prices because supply can't keep up demand.

Ever wonder how it is that a car can be built in Korea then shipped to
middle of the US and still cost less than a car built less than 1000 miles
away? Because outside the US they don't have to put up with all the
governmental crap. Look at how much industry is moving into big government
states like CA and MA compared to the number of factories moving to AL and
MS.
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