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Re: Why Sand Between Paving Stones?
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| Solar Flaire 2007-06-26, 3:25 am |
| It helps keep the seeds form growing weeds bwteen them. No other
reason.
"(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> wrote in message
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> Somebody in this august body must know.
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> Seems like there's gotta be a reason....
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> PeteCresswell
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| Arnold Walker 2007-06-26, 3:25 am |
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> It helps keep the seeds form growing weeds bwteen them. No other reason.
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> "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> wrote in message
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It also allows for expansion.....
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| GeekBoy 2007-06-26, 3:25 am |
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> "Solar Flaire" <solarerfat@hotmail.invalidater> wrote in message
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> It also allows for expansion.....
Those Germans seem to do an aweful good job with those cobble stones and no
sand.
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| Solar Flaire 2007-06-26, 8:25 pm |
| Most pavestones have little spacing bumps on the sides between them.
The sand does nothing except slow down seeds settling between them and
growing weeds.
Once the sand gets washed out or erodes the weeds start growing and
push them apart. This is why you have to sweep more sand in every few
years. Many large pave stones areas do not use sand at all if there
are no grass yards nearby.
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> "Arnold Walker" <arnoldwalker@consolidated.net> wrote in message
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> Those Germans seem to do an aweful good job with those cobble stones
> and no sand.
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| Ray King 2007-06-26, 9:25 pm |
| The most efficient use of stones ( as in making walls ect ) is done with
large stones locked into place with some what smaller stones. masons use
the term "chink" placing the smaller stones in the space made by the
irregular larger stones. "Chinking is done with force or "wedging". Smaller
stones are " chinked " or wedged in the spaces made by the other stones. The
great wall of china was built using sand/dirt hammered with heavy wood
hammers until the compacted ground was as hard as concrete.
Ray
"Solar Flaire" <solarerfat@hotmail.invalidater> wrote in message
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> Most pavestones have little spacing bumps on the sides between them. The
> sand does nothing except slow down seeds settling between them and growing
> weeds.
>
> Once the sand gets washed out or erodes the weeds start growing and push
> them apart. This is why you have to sweep more sand in every few years.
> Many large pave stones areas do not use sand at all if there are no grass
> yards nearby.
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> "GeekBoy" <geeek@whee.com> wrote in message
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| Solar Flaire 2007-06-27, 3:25 am |
| Are you saying the massive interlocking brick walkways in public
squares are going to jump up in the air because they have no sand
between the bricks?.
"Ray King" <rayjking@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> The most efficient use of stones ( as in making walls ect ) is done
> with large stones locked into place with some what smaller stones.
> masons use the term "chink" placing the smaller stones in the space
> made by the irregular larger stones. "Chinking is done with force or
> "wedging". Smaller stones are " chinked " or wedged in the spaces
> made by the other stones. The great wall of china was built using
> sand/dirt hammered with heavy wood hammers until the compacted
> ground was as hard as concrete.
> Ray
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> "Solar Flaire" <solarerfat@hotmail.invalidater> wrote in message
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| clare at snyder.on.ca 2007-06-27, 3:25 am |
| On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 18:40:56 -0500, "Solar Flaire"
<solarerfat@hotmail.invalidater> wrote:
>Most pavestones have little spacing bumps on the sides between them.
>The sand does nothing except slow down seeds settling between them and
>growing weeds.
>
>Once the sand gets washed out or erodes the weeds start growing and
>push them apart. This is why you have to sweep more sand in every few
>years. Many large pave stones areas do not use sand at all if there
>are no grass yards nearby.
>
Pavers on a driveway walk all over the place if you don't put sand
between them. At least mine did. The sand doesn't stop the weeds
either. There are no grooves on these pavers, they are just like
concrete bricks.
With sand between them it's almost impossible to remove a paver from
the center of the driveway.
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| Donald Kinney 2007-06-27, 3:25 am |
| "Solar Flaire" >
> Are you saying the massive interlocking brick walkways in public squares
> are going to jump up in the air because they have no sand between the
> bricks?.
Odd now days those large brick walkways have a molar mix under them:-)
Donald
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| (PeteCresswell) 2007-06-28, 9:25 am |
| Per clare at snyder.on.ca:
>With sand between them it's almost impossible to remove a paver from
>the center of the driveway.
That's interesting because I had thought one of the advantages of
a paving stone driveway was the ease of replacing oil-stained or
damaged areas.
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PeteCresswell
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| no spam 2007-06-28, 9:25 am |
| >>With sand between them it's almost impossible to remove a paver from
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> That's interesting because I had thought one of the advantages of
> a paving stone driveway was the ease of replacing oil-stained or
> damaged areas.
Its really not that difficult to remove and replace a paver with sand around
it if you know what you are doing. If the paver is damaged you just take a
hammer and break it into pieces.
If you plan on reusing the paver it just takes a little more time and
effort. Remove as much of the sand from the joints as possible, an icepick
and shop vac works well. Then stick a screwdriver or better yet a flat bar
in one joint. Then as you pry up on the paver pound on it with a rubber
hammer, or anything else heavy that won't break it (a plastic bottle full of
water will work). The vibration from the blows release the hold of the sand
and the paver will slide up. You'll probably have to repeat the action
several times on each side of the paver before you get it out because at
some point it will wedge against the one opposite your lever.
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| clare at snyder.on.ca 2007-06-28, 1:25 pm |
| On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 08:14:25 -0400, "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid>
wrote:
>Per clare at snyder.on.ca:
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>That's interesting because I had thought one of the advantages of
>a paving stone driveway was the ease of replacing oil-stained or
>damaged areas.
It is, you flush the sand out with a pressure washer and lift out the
first stone. From there on it's easy.
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| (PeteCresswell) 2007-07-02, 8:25 pm |
| Per GeekBoy:
>Those Germans seem to do an aweful good job with those cobble stones and no
>sand.
In Germany, I've seen entire roads made out of paving stones. But
the stones are different from the ones I see in southeastern
Penna. The stones used around here are all rectangular.
The stones I see used for roads and driveways in Germany are sort
of Z-shaped. I sat beside an access road made out of the
things and could hear them rattle as cars drove over them. No
sand - they were, to some extent, loose.
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PeteCresswell
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| Solar Flaire 2007-07-05, 3:25 am |
| Not where I live. This is a popular habit in the UK and OZland
perhaps, but not here.
"Donald Kinney" <kinney@ndak.net> wrote in message
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> "Solar Flaire" >
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> Odd now days those large brick walkways have a molar mix under
> them:-)
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> Donald
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| Solar Flaire 2007-07-05, 3:25 am |
| I have removed many pavers with sand compacted between the joints. You
need to pound the brick beside the one you want out. The desired paver
then works it's way up with each shock on the units around it. The
sand doesn't do anything except slow down the seeds from catching in
the cracks and makes it look more solid.
"no spam" <no@spam.net> wrote in message
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> Its really not that difficult to remove and replace a paver with
> sand around it if you know what you are doing. If the paver is
> damaged you just take a hammer and break it into pieces.
>
> If you plan on reusing the paver it just takes a little more time
> and effort. Remove as much of the sand from the joints as possible,
> an icepick and shop vac works well. Then stick a screwdriver or
> better yet a flat bar in one joint. Then as you pry up on the paver
> pound on it with a rubber hammer, or anything else heavy that won't
> break it (a plastic bottle full of water will work). The vibration
> from the blows release the hold of the sand and the paver will slide
> up. You'll probably have to repeat the action several times on each
> side of the paver before you get it out because at some point it
> will wedge against the one opposite your lever.
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