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Universal Handheld Bus?

vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com

2005-12-30, 8:21 pm

I look at all the handheld clutter. But at the same time I can't
see one size fitting all. Some folks have big hands, others small
one. Some want keyboards, others stylus, others voice recognition.
What we need is a universal handheld bus. The outside that keeps all
the gadgets together can vary, the inside stuff, PDA, cellular,
remote, calculator, mp3, radio, camera, can all fit the user's
needs. But ther's no way one manufacturer can combine everything the
way one person wants them. C'mon someone's got to have designed
something like this by now? no? I know, we have a hard enough time
getting power adaptors that match. That's the "Japanese way of doing
business" we adopted in the mid80s when we abandoned the old USA
backwards compatible requirements.

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Joe Kesselman

2005-12-30, 10:21 pm

> What we need is a universal handheld bus.

There has been research on this, such as IBM's "Personal Area Net".
Bluetooth has also been used for the purpose. But experience indicates
that there's less actual need for continuous connectivity than may
appear at first glance.

Roy Schestowitz

2006-01-02, 3:21 am

[vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com] on Friday 30 December 2005 23:37

>
> I look at all the handheld clutter. But at the same time I can't
> see one size fitting all. Some folks have big hands, others small
> one. Some want keyboards, others stylus, others voice recognition.
> What we need is a universal handheld bus. The outside that keeps all
> the gadgets together can vary, the inside stuff, PDA, cellular,
> remote, calculator, mp3, radio, camera, can all fit the user's
> needs. But ther's no way one manufacturer can combine everything the
> way one person wants them. C'mon someone's got to have designed
> something like this by now? no? I know, we have a hard enough time
> getting power adaptors that match. That's the "Japanese way of doing
> business" we adopted in the mid80s when we abandoned the old USA
> backwards compatible requirements.

As regards connectivity, Palm moved to USB with the introduction of the
Tungsten 5 if I recall correctly. They have broken Universal Bus compati-
bility, thus deterring any upgrades that makes long-accumulated peripher-
als useless.

The USB (maybe USB2 yet to come) move was probably a strategic move.
Whether it's to do with Linux kernel handling of USB ports, I don't know.
In the long run, it appears as if more and more vendors see the value of
interoperability (Open Source software particularly) and hardware stan-
dardisation.

Roy

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Roy Schestowitz

2006-01-02, 3:21 am

[vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com] on Friday 30 December 2005 23:37

> I look at all the handheld clutter. But at the same time I can't
> see one size fitting all. Some folks have big hands, others small
> one. Some want keyboards, others stylus, others voice recognition.
> What we need is a universal handheld bus. The outside that keeps all
> the gadgets together can vary, the inside stuff, PDA, cellular,
> remote, calculator, mp3, radio, camera, can all fit the user's
> needs. But ther's no way one manufacturer can combine everything the
> way one person wants them. C'mon someone's got to have designed
> something like this by now? no? I know, we have a hard enough time
> getting power adaptors that match. That's the "Japanese way of doing
> business" we adopted in the mid80s when we abandoned the old USA
> backwards compatible requirements.

As regards connectivity, Palm moved to USB with the introduction of the
Tungsten 5 if I recall correctly. They have broken Universal Bus compati-
bility, thus deterring any upgrades that makes long-accumulated peripher-
als useless.

The USB (maybe USB2 yet to come) move was probably a strategic move.
Whether it's to do with Linux kernel handling of USB ports, I don't know.
In the long run, it appears as if more and more vendors see the value of
interoperability (Open Source software particularly) and hardware stan-
dardisation.

Roy

Bill Kearney

2006-01-03, 12:21 am

> I look at all the handheld clutter. But at the same time I can't
> see one size fitting all. Some folks have big hands, others small
> one. Some want keyboards, others stylus, others voice recognition.
> What we need is a universal handheld bus. The outside that keeps all
> the gadgets together can vary, the inside stuff, PDA, cellular,
> remote, calculator, mp3, radio, camera, can all fit the user's
> needs. But ther's no way one manufacturer can combine everything the
> way one person wants them. C'mon someone's got to have designed
> something like this by now? no? I know, we have a hard enough time
> getting power adaptors that match. That's the "Japanese way of doing
> business" we adopted in the mid80s when we abandoned the old USA
> backwards compatible requirements.

Look at the realities of a handheld device. There's a HUGE number of
compromises that have to be made in order to get it working AT ALL. Price,
power, durability, heat, etc. Couple that with the simple fact that
underlying standards basically didn't exist.

Fast-forward to now and we see things like a Blackberry having only ONE
connector, mini USB, for both sync and power. A number of other devices
also do this. Tie that in with the host PC providing enough wattage and it
really helps most users. That's a pretty good sign of progress. Now, this
doesn't work for everyone, especially if you want something a desk cradle,
but it would appear most users don't.

It's not perfect but it's getting a lot "less worse" than a decade ago.

-Bill Kearney

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