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Problem with x-10 system that used to be stable
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| Carlos M. Contreras 2006-10-10, 8:25 pm |
| My x-10 system has worked w/o problems for aprox. 5 years. Last week it
started turning some lights on at random times. I removed my RF receiver
from the outlet with no succes. One of those lights is in my bedroom, so
I'm really mad. I have changed the house code of that particular switch as
part of the troubleshootingm but the problem continues. Is this a problem
with the switches, or it is an external signal that i'm receiving?
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| Carlos M. Contreras wrote:
> My x-10 system has worked w/o problems for aprox. 5 years. Last week it
> started turning some lights on at random times. I removed my RF receiver
> from the outlet with no succes. One of those lights is in my bedroom, so
> I'm really mad. I have changed the house code of that particular switch as
> part of the troubleshootingm but the problem continues. Is this a problem
> with the switches, or it is an external signal that i'm receiving?
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Have you added any new equipment or appliances in the house? New
electronics , charges especially those with switching power supplies?
Have you moved your controller? CM11?
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| Carlos M. Contreras 2006-10-13, 5:25 pm |
| Nothing new is conected...
"Ronbo" <Ronbo@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> Carlos M. Contreras wrote:
> Have you added any new equipment or appliances in the house? New
> electronics , charges especially those with switching power supplies?
> Have you moved your controller? CM11?
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| Charles Sullivan 2006-10-13, 8:25 pm |
| On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 18:31:02 -0400, Carlos M. Contreras wrote:
> My x-10 system has worked w/o problems for aprox. 5 years. Last week it
> started turning some lights on at random times. I removed my RF receiver
> from the outlet with no succes. One of those lights is in my bedroom, so
> I'm really mad. I have changed the house code of that particular switch as
> part of the troubleshootingm but the problem continues. Is this a problem
> with the switches, or it is an external signal that i'm receiving?
If you run with the CM11A disconnected from the PC, make sure to
disconnect the cable at the CM11A end. A dangling cable can act like
an antenna and weird things can happen.
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| Carlos M. Contreras 2006-10-14, 1:25 pm |
| Both the RF transceiver and CM11A were disconnected from the electric
outlet.
BTW, the problem is more serious at night.
"Charles Sullivan" <cwsulliv@triad.rr.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 18:31:02 -0400, Carlos M. Contreras wrote:
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> If you run with the CM11A disconnected from the PC, make sure to
> disconnect the cable at the CM11A end. A dangling cable can act like
> an antenna and weird things can happen.
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| Shaun Eli 2006-10-14, 1:25 pm |
| Are you in an apartment? A neighbor could have an X-10 or something
else that sends static through the power lines.
Shaun Eli
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| Charles Sullivan 2006-10-14, 1:25 pm |
| If you're running ActiveHome, does the "Find Other Computers" show
a received X10 signal for the lights that are coming on? If modules
are being turned on by random noise, there will usually NOT be a
valid X10 signal on the powerline.
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 10:41:46 -0400, Carlos M. Contreras wrote:
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> Both the RF transceiver and CM11A were disconnected from the electric
> outlet.
> BTW, the problem is more serious at night.
> "Charles Sullivan" <cwsulliv@triad.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:pan.2006.10.13.23.14.52.156256@triad.rr.com...
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| Dave Houston 2006-10-14, 5:25 pm |
| "Carlos M. Contreras" <cmcontreras@nospam.csfam.com> wrote:
>Both the RF transceiver and CM11A were disconnected from the electric
>outlet.
>BTW, the problem is more serious at night.
Has your furnace blower recently started running as the weather gets cooler?
Powerline spikes from motors starting/stopping can directly affect certain
X-10 switches and modules.
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| I think one of your neighbors has discovered X10.
"Carlos M. Contreras" <cmcontreras@nospam.csfam.com> wrote in message
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> My x-10 system has worked w/o problems for aprox. 5 years. Last week it
> started turning some lights on at random times. I removed my RF receiver
> from the outlet with no succes. One of those lights is in my bedroom, so
> I'm really mad. I have changed the house code of that particular switch
> as part of the troubleshootingm but the problem continues. Is this a
> problem with the switches, or it is an external signal that i'm receiving?
>
>
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| Carlos M. Contreras 2006-10-19, 9:25 am |
| I live in Puerto Rico, so I have to use the A/C the whole year. :-)
"Dave Houston" <nobody@whocares.com> wrote in message
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> "Carlos M. Contreras" <cmcontreras@nospam.csfam.com> wrote:
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> Has your furnace blower recently started running as the weather gets
> cooler?
> Powerline spikes from motors starting/stopping can directly affect certain
> X-10 switches and modules.
>
> http://www.davehouston.net
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| Carlos M. Contreras 2006-10-19, 9:25 am |
| Maybe. But the problem continues on the same switches when I changed the
housecode (I have tried several codes). Maybe there is some noise in my
lines, but I don't know if it is generated in my apartment, or if they come
from the outside. Again, i have two problems. Some switches turn on at
random, and other do not respond to x-10 commands. I'm not sure if the
cause of both is the same, or if I have two different problems.
"D&SW" <dsweatherwax@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>I think one of your neighbors has discovered X10.
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> "Carlos M. Contreras" <cmcontreras@nospam.csfam.com> wrote in message
> news:452c122a$0$19641$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
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| Dave Houston 2006-10-19, 1:25 pm |
| Noise might cause both. It sounds like someone in another apartment has some
gear that's putting noise on the powerline. This may be very tough to track
down and even tougher to fix unless you can find the source and get the
owner to plug it into a filter. A filter may not help if its spikey.
I think I would start by buying an ESM1 meter ($50-60) to see if it
indicates X10-like noise on the line. Note that it will not show noise
spikes but will show continuous noise in the 80-175kHz range.
If it's spikes causing the random turn-ons and you have WS467 (or similar)
switches, this may help...
http://groups.google.com/group/comp...8&output=gplain
"Carlos M. Contreras" <nobody@nospam.com> wrote:
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>Maybe. But the problem continues on the same switches when I changed the
>housecode (I have tried several codes). Maybe there is some noise in my
>lines, but I don't know if it is generated in my apartment, or if they come
>from the outside. Again, i have two problems. Some switches turn on at
>random, and other do not respond to x-10 commands. I'm not sure if the
>cause of both is the same, or if I have two different problems.
>
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| Carlos M. Contreras 2006-10-19, 1:25 pm |
| If the cause of the problem is noise coming from the outside, will a
coupling blocking filter help? Or do they only block pure x10 signals?
"Dave Houston" <nobody@whocares.com> wrote in message
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> Noise might cause both. It sounds like someone in another apartment has
> some
> gear that's putting noise on the powerline. This may be very tough to
> track
> down and even tougher to fix unless you can find the source and get the
> owner to plug it into a filter. A filter may not help if its spikey.
>
> I think I would start by buying an ESM1 meter ($50-60) to see if it
> indicates X10-like noise on the line. Note that it will not show noise
> spikes but will show continuous noise in the 80-175kHz range.
>
> If it's spikes causing the random turn-ons and you have WS467 (or similar)
> switches, this may help...
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp...8&output=gplain
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> "Carlos M. Contreras" <nobody@nospam.com> wrote:
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> http://www.davehouston.net
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/roZetta/
> roZetta-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
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| Dave Houston 2006-10-19, 1:25 pm |
| Maybe, maybe not. It's hard to say without knowing how the apartments are
wired. If there's only one entry point, a blocking filter can handle
continuous noise that would affect X10 but it may be of little use against
spikes.
"Carlos M. Contreras" <nobody@nospam.com> wrote:
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>If the cause of the problem is noise coming from the outside, will a
>coupling blocking filter help? Or do they only block pure x10 signals?
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