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EXCESSIVE: PR: Access Control Systems at www.BassBurglarAlarms.com
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| Patrick Klos 2007-05-08, 9:25 am |
| In article <SNqdnVRTrM7oNKLbnZ2dnUVZ_qWvnZ2d@comcast.com>,
Robert L Bass <sales@xxxxburglaralarms> wrote:
>PR: Access Control Systems at www.xxxxBurglarAlarms.com
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>* Keyless Locks - Add physical security and control to your home
>or business. Keep children from accessing a gun cabinet. Limit
> : : :
> : : :
OK. I think we've all seen enough "Press Releases" about the stuff you sell.
We all know you. We all know you sell stuff. It isn't necessary to post
all these "Press Releases" (a.k.a. unsolicited advertisements)! It would be
more appropriate to make a single post with titles and links to ALL YOUR
PRESS RELEASES at once. You're clearly exceeding the proper use of this
newsgroup.
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| Patrick Klos wrote:
> In article <SNqdnVRTrM7oNKLbnZ2dnUVZ_qWvnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> Robert L Bass <sales@xxxxburglaralarms> wrote:
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> OK. I think we've all seen enough "Press Releases" about the stuff you sell.
> We all know you. We all know you sell stuff. It isn't necessary to post
> all these "Press Releases" (a.k.a. unsolicited advertisements)! It would be
> more appropriate to make a single post with titles and links to ALL YOUR
> PRESS RELEASES at once. You're clearly exceeding the proper use of this
> newsgroup.
you can say that again!
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| Robert L Bass 2007-05-08, 9:25 am |
| >> OK. I think we've all seen enough "Press
Not yet you haven't. I have over 60,000 products
in more than 2,000 categories. I have just scratched
the surface.
[color=darkred]
No, you don't. You've never even met me.
[color=darkred]
OK, now you're one for three.
[color=darkred]
Sure, it is.
[color=darkred]
You guys post the same unprovoked attacks
and personal insults over and over again. My
messages are on topic and the PR in the
subject line is fair warning that the post is a
press release. If you don't want to see them,
you can easily filter by subject line.
[color=darkred]
Sorry. Next time I'll include more information
about beer.
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> you can say that again!
He probably already has.
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Regards,
Robert L Bass
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Bass Home Electronics
941-925-8650
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
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| Robert L Bass 2007-05-08, 1:25 pm |
| >> PR: Access Control Systems at www.BassBurglarAlarms.com
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> OK. I think we've all seen enough "Press Releases"
> about the stuff you sell...
The format and content of the posts conforms with
commonly accepted practice. They are on-topic
here and not particularly frequent.
> We all know you. We all know you sell stuff.
We all know that Ford sells cars.
> It isn't necessary to post all these "Press
> Releases" (a.k.a. unsolicited advertisements)!
One doesn't solicit anything in Usenet.
> It would be more appropriate to make a single
> post with titles and links to ALL YOUR PRESS
> RELEASES at once.
No need to yell. My posts inform users what is
available through my company. They also help
with search engine ranking. The upside to that
is that people searching for home automation
related product not ony find my store but are
also introduced to this newsgroup.
> You're clearly exceeding the proper use of this
> newsgroup.
Not by a long shot.
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Regards,
Robert L Bass
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Bass Home Electronics
941-925-8650
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
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| rlsusenet@NOSPAMPUHLEEZschnapp.org 2007-05-08, 1:25 pm |
| Robert L Bass wrote:
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> The format and content of the posts conforms with
> commonly accepted practice. They are on-topic
> here and not particularly frequent.
Actually, they *ARE* far too frequent and far too commercial.
In a newsgroup, staying low-key means sending a crass commercial message
no more than once a week. (And even THAT will get you flamed.)
Take a look at my postings here. I'm not very vocal. If even *I* am
piping up about this, you're probably WAY out of line. You're making
yourself and your company look bad.
The best way to promote yourself in a newsgroup is to contribute factual
information that impresses people with your insight, knowledge, and
competence. If your messages include a brief signature that lets folks
know that you also have commercial interests in the subject matter, you
will draw their business.
Dumping your catalog onto the newsgroup in bits and pieces, nearly every
day, also impresses people -- but probably not in the way you intend.
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| rlsusenet@NOSPAMPUHLEEZschnapp.org wrote:
> Robert L Bass wrote:
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> Actually, they *ARE* far too frequent and far too commercial.
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> In a newsgroup, staying low-key means sending a crass commercial message
> no more than once a week. (And even THAT will get you flamed.)
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> Take a look at my postings here. I'm not very vocal. If even *I* am
> piping up about this, you're probably WAY out of line. You're making
> yourself and your company look bad.
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> The best way to promote yourself in a newsgroup is to contribute factual
> information that impresses people with your insight, knowledge, and
> competence. If your messages include a brief signature that lets folks
> know that you also have commercial interests in the subject matter, you
> will draw their business.
>
> Dumping your catalog onto the newsgroup in bits and pieces, nearly every
> day, also impresses people -- but probably not in the way you intend.
you can say that again
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| On May 8, 12:17=EF=BF=BDpm, Mac <m...@c.com> wrote:
> rlsuse...@NOSPAMPUHLEEZschnapp.org wrote:
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> you can say that again-
Just so all the groups Bass posts in can see what a crook he is, I
think I'll break my own rule and cross post the following.
The following is the Better business report on how badly he treats his
victims.
If anyone would really rather not see this being posted in its
entirety every time he advertises in a Newsgroup whose FAQ prohibits
doing so ..... you'd better start complaining to Bass about it.
Otherwise ..... I guess it's just to fucking bad.
http://www.bbbwestflorida.org/commo...?bid=3D41001663
Bass Burglar Alarms
4883
Sarasota, FL
Telephone: (941)-1100
Fax: (941)0448
www.basslaralarms.com
The BBB reports on members and non-members. If a company is a member
of the BBB, it is stated in this report
BBB Definition:
report - A summary of activity reflected in a company's BBB file.
Includes basic business background, BBB membership information, and
Bureau complaint activity over the previous three years. Also reports
may include any known government actions, advertising issues or other
information that results from activity conducted by the BBB.
..
Principal: Mr. Robert L Bass, Owner
Customer Contact: Mr. Robert L Bass, Owner - (941)-9747
File Open Date: June 2002
TOB Classification: Electric Equipment-Service & Repair, Fire Alarm
Systems, Security Control Equipment, Sys/Monitor
BBB Membership: This company is not a member.
Additional DBA Names
Bass Home Electronics
Customer Experience
Based on BBB files, this company has an unsatisfactory record
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unsatisfactory record - A company has an "unsatisfactory business
performance record" with the Bureau is based on the experiences
reflected in BBB files. This file condition results when the company
has failed to resolve or respond to complaints, repeatedly failed to
respond or resolve issues in a timely manner, failed to resolve the
underlying issues for a pattern
BBB Definition:
pattern - More than 2 complaints involving the same allegations
usually within 12 months that are significant in relation to the
company's size and volume of business.
of complaints, failed to honor their commitment to mediate or
arbitrate disputes or honor mediated agreements or arbitrated
decisions, failed to substantiate, modify or discontinue false
advertising claims that are challenged by the BBB, or failed to
discontinue unauthorized use of the BBB name and logo, a Federally
protected trademark.
with the Bureau due to unanswered complaints. The company has
resolved
BBB Definition:
resolved - The company resolved the complaint issues.
some complaints presented by the Bureau, however, the Bureau did not
receive a response to other complaints
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other complaints - This refers to complaints from individuals or
businesses that do not fall under a specific category.
..
When considering complaint information, please take into account the
company's size and volume of transactions, and understand that the
nature of complaints and a firm's responses to them are often more
important than the number of complaints.
The Bureau processed a total of 28 complaints about this company in
the last 36 months, our standard reporting period. Of the total of 28
complaints closed in 36 months, 9 were closed in the last year.
Delivery Issues
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Delivery Issues - Claims alleging delayed delivery of ordered
merchandise.
Resolved
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Resolved - The company resolved the complaint issues.
9 - Company resolved
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resolved - The company resolved the complaint issues.
the complaint issues. The consumer acknowledged acceptance to the
BBB.
1 - Company addressed the complaint issues. The consumer failed
to acknowledge acceptance to the BBB.
No Response
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No Response - The company failed to respond to the complaint.
4 - Company failed to respond to the BBB to resolve or address
the complaint issues.
Customer Service Issues
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Service Issues - Claims of alleged delay in completing service,
failure to provide promised service, inferior quality of provided
service, or damaged merchandise as a result of delivery service.
BBB Definition:
Customer Service Issues - Claims alleging unsatisfactory customer
service, including personnel's failure to provide assistance in a
timely manner, failure to address or respond to customer
dissatisfaction, unavailability for customer support, and/or
inappropriate behavior or attitude exhibited by company staff.
Resolved
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1 - Company addressed the complaint issues. The consumer failed
to acknowledge acceptance to the BBB.
No Response
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1 - Company failed to respond to the BBB to resolve or address
the complaint issues.
Product Issues
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expectations of the complainant, including defective merchandise.
No Response
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the complaint issues.
Refund or Exchange Issues
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Refund or Exchange Issues - Claim of alleged failure to honor
company policy or verbal commitment to provide refunds, exchanges, or
credit for products or services.
Resolved
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Resolved - The company resolved the complaint issues.
6 - Company resolved
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resolved - The company resolved the complaint issues.
the complaint issues. The consumer acknowledged acceptance to the
BBB.
2 - Company addressed the complaint issues. The consumer failed
to acknowledge acceptance to the BBB.
No Response
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No Response - The company failed to respond to the complaint.
1 - Company failed to respond to the BBB to resolve or address
the complaint issues.
Issue Not Defined
No Response
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1 - Company failed to respond to the BBB to resolve or address
the complaint issues.
Additional Addresses, Telephone Numbers, Fax Numbers, and Web
Addresses
Additional Addresses
2291 View Cir
Sarasota, FL 341-6929
Additional Phone Numbers
Tel: (941)-9747
Tel: (877)8900
Tel: (941)-3167
Additional Fax Numbers
Fax: (941)-9747
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www.securityystems.us
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| Frank Olson 2007-05-10, 1:25 pm |
| Robert L Bass wrote:
> You guys post the same unprovoked attacks
> and personal insults over and over again.
"Unprovoked attacks and personal insults", eh? Gee, what could possibly
provoke this kind of response? Could it be 15 or 20 "PR posts" in the
last few days?? In a forum that's largely comprised of industry
professionals? Go "shill" your store at CHA.
> My
> messages are on topic
For whom?? The few DIYer's that have posted here asking for help??
Yeah... right!!
> and the PR in the
> subject line is fair warning that the post is a
> press release.
Using this as an excuse to blatantly advertise your store is NO EXCUSE.
Read the Group FAQ at http://www.yoursecuritysource.com/asafaq.htm.
> If you don't want to see them,
> you can easily filter by subject line.
I don't want to see them. And I don't want to have to filter anything.
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> Sorry. Next time I'll include more information
> about beer.
Anything but BassBungledAlarms.
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| Bill Kearney 2007-05-10, 1:25 pm |
| > Sorry. Next time I'll include more information
> about beer.
No, please don't let there be a "next time", beer notwithstanding.
As helpful as you've been it's not a free pass to spam the group. Stop,
please.
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