Home Cleaning - How well do organic cleaners work than the regular cleaners?

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How well do organic cleaners work than the regular cleaners?

julisue@gmail.com

2006-09-28, 1:25 pm

I can't stand the smells of harsh chemicals when I clean my bathroom
and am looking for an alternative. I've been looking at these organic
cleaning products,:

http://kokogm.com/Green_Market/CleaningStore.html

but was wondering if they really kill the bacteria in toilets and
mildew in showers? When they say 'clean,' do they mean killing bacteria
as well? I just don't want anything "growing" in my bathroom.

Thanks,
Julie

Michael A. Ball

2006-09-29, 5:25 pm

On 28 Sep 2006 08:16:55 -0700, julisue@gmail.com wrote:

>I can't stand the smells of harsh chemicals when I clean my bathroom
>and am looking for an alternative. I've been looking at these organic
>cleaning products,:
>
>http://kokogm.com/Green_Market/CleaningStore.html
>
>but was wondering if they really kill the bacteria in toilets and
>mildew in showers? When they say 'clean,' do they mean killing bacteria
>as well? I just don't want anything "growing" in my bathroom.

Where on their site does it say their products are organic? They list no
ingredients or offer MSDS, no AOAC reports or results from any testing
agency. They claim that their products are "environmentally friendly",
but they don't explain what that means, or what makes their products
that way. However, that was not your primary concern: strong scents are.

Good custodial supply stores offer hospital grade
detergent-disinfectants and other cleaning products without perfumes
and/or colors. Perfumes and colors are added for specific reasons, but
cleaning effectiveness is not one of them.

________________________
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Phisherman

2006-09-29, 8:25 pm

On 28 Sep 2006 08:16:55 -0700, julisue@gmail.com wrote:

>I can't stand the smells of harsh chemicals when I clean my bathroom
>and am looking for an alternative. I've been looking at these organic
>cleaning products,:
>
>http://kokogm.com/Green_Market/CleaningStore.html
>
>but was wondering if they really kill the bacteria in toilets and
>mildew in showers? When they say 'clean,' do they mean killing bacteria
>as well? I just don't want anything "growing" in my bathroom.
>
>Thanks,
>Julie

Often I use Tide-Free powder as a general cleaner. It has absolutely
no smell and kills most bacteria. Hot or very warm water works
better. Any soap or salt will kill bacteria, but I have not heard of
"organic" soap. I don't know anything better than household bleach
for killing mildew/mold. I have no mold/mildew growth by keeping the
bath dry and well-ventilated--I use a timer wall switch that runs a
fan 20 minutes after a shower.

jules

2006-09-30, 3:25 am

Hmm.. I visited a bunch of organic household products when I came
across that site so that's why I probably said "organic."

Thank you for your tips and suggestions. I will look further into it.

aspasia

2006-09-30, 5:25 pm

On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 16:37:37 -0400, Michael A. Ball
<Guardian@wireco.net> wrote:

>On 28 Sep 2006 08:16:55 -0700, julisue@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>Where on their site does it say their products are organic? They list no
>ingredients or offer MSDS, no AOAC reports or results from any testing
>agency. They claim that their products are "environmentally friendly",
>but they don't explain what that means, or what makes their products
>that way. However, that was not your primary concern: strong scents are.
>
>Good custodial supply stores offer hospital grade
>detergent-disinfectants and other cleaning products without perfumes
>and/or colors. Perfumes and colors are added for specific reasons, but
>cleaning effectiveness is not one of them.

Very interesting -- about perfume-free sources.

I have been ticked off for ages that I can't find clothes washer
detergents without icky perfumes. And I'm not even allergic!
Imagine a person with allergies trying to find reasonable priced
detergents in their neighborhood supermarket! Nothing! Aisles and
aisles of detergents with all kinds of fancy PR names for perfume.

Why isn't there more complaint!!! The only thing I can find is Arm &
Hammer and even they don't always have "free" detergents.

I will certainly checkd out custodial supply store for their products
and prices.

Come the Revolution...

Aspasia

aspasia

2006-09-30, 5:25 pm

Michael A. Ball

2006-09-30, 9:25 pm

On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 14:57:33 -0700, aspasia wrote:

>I have been ticked off for ages that I can't find clothes washer
>detergents without icky perfumes. And I'm not even allergic!
>Imagine a person with allergies trying to find reasonable priced
>detergents in their neighborhood supermarket! Nothing! Aisles and
>aisles of detergents with all kinds of fancy PR names for perfume.
>
>Why isn't there more complaint!!! The only thing I can find is Arm &
>Hammer and even they don't always have "free" detergents.

The public is constantly programmed to associate clean with scent. In
some cases, things don't actually have to be clean--just smell great.
The laundry is a prime example of that. If the scent doesn't burn one's
nose, the laundry might not be fresh and/or clean.

There are so few fragrance-free detergents because they are not what the
public demands; therefore companies can't afford to manufacture them.
Even though I don't associate cleanliness with scent, I can't afford to
process laundry for my business that lacks a "fresh" scent.

Oh, more consumers don't complain because they don't believe their
opinions and preferences will make any difference.
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lucy

2006-10-02, 9:25 am

"jules" <julisue@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1159585164.665759.191970@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Hmm.. I visited a bunch of organic household products when I came
> across that site so that's why I probably said "organic."
>
> Thank you for your tips and suggestions. I will look further into it.

I use "All" liquid detergent that is scent free. It comes in a small white
bottle.
It is concentrated too.. hth.

eVe Giidiion

2006-10-03, 5:25 pm

eVe Giidiion

2006-10-03, 5:25 pm

>
>Why isn't there more complaint!!! The only thing I can find is Arm &
>Hammer and even they don't always have "free" detergents.
>
>I will certainly checkd out custodial supply store for their products
>and prices.
>
>Come the Revolution...
>
>Aspasia

I can't stand most parfumes. I don't care for them in cleaning
products or on people. I don't understand why people douse themselves
with the stuff. I actually get migraines from the stuff.
I went to a Doctor's office once that had a sign up saying no perfumes
or strong scents.
Once I smelled this lady and I asked her what Shampoo she had used.
She just beamed as she told me the name of this very expensive
shampoo. I didn't have the heart to tell her the scent was the same
that was used in my store brand Dog Shampoo. To this day I associate
the smell with stinking wet dogs.
I wonder if it is just Americans that are in love with these strong
scents or is it everyone?
I wrote a comment about the Over Powering Floral smell in my dentist's
office on there suggestion card. OMG. The next visit I was in the
Dentist's Private office being asked about it. I told him I was
trying to be very polite and tactful but I often had to wait outside
on my husband because of the smell. The Doc said he used the stuff to
mask the smell of the disinfectants. I told him I understood that but
I still thought the floral scent was way too much. He actually did
tone it down.

EG

jules

2006-10-04, 3:25 am

> Julie,
>
> Buyer beware. I think a lot of companies use the term "Organic" very
> loosely. Kind of like "All-Natural" with
> means....................absolutely nothing.
>
> EG

Ohh don't worry, I'm a compulsive label reader.

I'm with you on the perfume bit. It gives me a headache after a while -
same thing goes with cigarette smoke. Ick!

aspasia@adelphia.net

2006-10-05, 5:25 pm

On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 14:59:04 -0700, aspasia wrote:

>On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 16:37:37 -0400, Michael A. Ball
><Guardian@wireco.net> wrote:
>
>
>Very interesting -- about perfume-free sources.
>
>I have been ticked off for ages that I can't find clothes washer
>detergents without icky perfumes. And I'm not even allergic!
>Imagine a person with allergies trying to find reasonable priced
>detergents in their neighborhood supermarket! Nothing! Aisles and
>aisles of detergents with all kinds of fancy PR names for perfume.
>
>Why isn't there more complaint!!! The only thing I can find is Arm &
>Hammer and even they don't always have "free" detergents.
>
>I will certainly checkd out custodial supply store for their products
>and prices.
>
>Come the Revolution...
>
>Aspasia

OK, I did visit a local, long-established custodial supply store.
Guess what -- they had NO perfume-free detergents! The
polite store clerk explained that people actually PREFER
the scented detergents, and mfgrs don't make the non-scented
because not enough demand. [expletive deleted] !!!

I can't afford to pay shipping on heavy boxes of detergent,
even in case some perfume-free ones are sold on-line.

Gotta be a solution out there somewhere...

Aspasia

jules

2006-10-06, 1:25 pm

> OK, I did visit a local, long-established custodial supply store.
> Guess what -- they had NO perfume-free detergents! The
> polite store clerk explained that people actually PREFER
> the scented detergents, and mfgrs don't make the non-scented
> because not enough demand. [expletive deleted] !!!
>
> I can't afford to pay shipping on heavy boxes of detergent,
> even in case some perfume-free ones are sold on-line.
>
> Gotta be a solution out there somewhere...
>
> Aspasia

Now that I think of it, when we were out of laundry detergent, my mom
used to wash our clothes in the bathtub with some dish washing liquid.
(our washing machine was half broken) I'm not sure if there's unscented
dish liquid out there but it's definitely lighter than a box of laundry
detergent.

Julie

aspasia

2006-10-06, 5:25 pm

On 6 Oct 2006 08:01:54 -0700, "jules" <julisue@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>Now that I think of it, when we were out of laundry detergent, my mom
>used to wash our clothes in the bathtub with some dish washing liquid.
>(our washing machine was half broken) I'm not sure if there's unscented
>dish liquid out there but it's definitely lighter than a box of laundry
>detergent.
>
>Julie

Not sure if dish wash liquid is properly formulated for clothes
washing. Anybody know?

You can sometimes find, I think it's Sun Light, or some name like
that, unscented, clothes wash liquid in the Big Lots stores or other
outlets.

I always wondered about comparative efficiency of liquid and
powder detergents.

Anybody know if this has been researched properly, and if so,
what were the results?

TIA

jules

2006-10-07, 3:25 am

Yes! That was what she used, Sun Light. I think they have different
cleaners for different jobs and not all cleaners are the same to an
extent but our clothes were fine with dish detergent. They were a
little "crisp" but then we didn't have a clothes dryer either. They
smelled like the outdoors because we hung them on a washline.

I don't see any harm using dish detergent on grease stains in clothing,
after all, it does cut through grease.

Phisherman

2006-10-07, 1:25 pm

On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:44:52 -0700, aspasia wrote:

>On 6 Oct 2006 08:01:54 -0700, "jules" <julisue@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Not sure if dish wash liquid is properly formulated for clothes
>washing. Anybody know?
>
>You can sometimes find, I think it's Sun Light, or some name like
>that, unscented, clothes wash liquid in the Big Lots stores or other
>outlets.
>
>I always wondered about comparative efficiency of liquid and
>powder detergents.
>
>Anybody know if this has been researched properly, and if so,
>what were the results?
>
>TIA
>

Dishwashing liquid can be used in the laundry in a pinch, although I
don't recommend it. Using laundry detergent or dishwashing liquid in
the dishwasher might put suds all over the kitchen floor.

You can wash lightly soiled clothing by soaking in the clothes washer
overnight, then running them through the regular wash cycle with good
results. Consumer Reports did a study using the "miracle wash
doughnut" compared with soaking clothes in plain water--both did
equally well; it was found that the soaking part was what did the
cleaning. You can add a cup of baking soda to the laundry instead of
soap for odor-free clothes. This works well for deer hunters.

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