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shims from South Africa
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| bitternut 2006-03-30, 8:21 am |
| Was in my local Ace Hardware store to get some screws and happened to see
some small blister packs of wooden shims like you would use for doors or
window installs. Could not believe where they came from. Would you believe
they were a product of South Africa. Hard to believe a product like that
could be produced and shipped all that way cheaper than it could be produced
here.
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| CWatters 2006-03-30, 9:21 am |
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"bitternut" <bitternut@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> Was in my local Ace Hardware store to get some screws and happened to see
> some small blister packs of wooden shims like you would use for doors or
> window installs. Could not believe where they came from. Would you believe
> they were a product of South Africa. Hard to believe a product like that
> could be produced and shipped all that way cheaper than it could be
produced
> here.
Check where your food comes from these days. Some of that does quite a few
miles.
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| RicodJour 2006-03-30, 10:21 am |
| bitternut wrote:
> Was in my local Ace Hardware store to get some screws and happened to see
> some small blister packs of wooden shims like you would use for doors or
> window installs. Could not believe where they came from. Would you believe
> they were a product of South Africa. Hard to believe a product like that
> could be produced and shipped all that way cheaper than it could be produced
> here.
Likewise with some french doors from HD. Typical 15 lite doors.
Shipped from South Africa.
That's the case with a lot of stuff now. Forget about the
manufacturing costs, I don't understand how they can ship the stuff and
include the distributor's markup for such a cheap price.
R
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| Matt Barrow 2006-03-30, 10:21 am |
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"RicodJour" <ricodjour@worldemail.com> wrote in message
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> bitternut wrote:
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> Likewise with some french doors from HD. Typical 15 lite doors.
> Shipped from South Africa.
>
> That's the case with a lot of stuff now. Forget about the
> manufacturing costs, I don't understand how they can ship the stuff and
> include the distributor's markup for such a cheap price.
>
Some goods cost less to ship 8000 miles across the ocean than to ship 800
miles in the US. Mostly, it has to do with regulations inside the US. Ocean
shipping, though slow, is cheap, especially when using non-US registered
ships.
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| CWatters 2006-03-30, 7:21 pm |
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"RicodJour" <ricodjour@worldemail.com> wrote in message
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> bitternut wrote:
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> Likewise with some french doors from HD. Typical 15 lite doors.
> Shipped from South Africa.
>
> That's the case with a lot of stuff now. Forget about the
> manufacturing costs, I don't understand how they can ship the stuff and
> include the distributor's markup for such a cheap price.
To ship a container accross the Atlantic (say Belgium to Cincinnati) could
be around $3-5000.
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| RicodJour 2006-03-30, 11:21 pm |
| CWatters wrote:
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> To ship a container accross the Atlantic (say Belgium to Cincinnati) could
> be around $3-5000.
How would that breakdown with respect to ocean versus land cost?
R
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| mrsgator88 2006-03-31, 2:21 am |
| "bitternut" <bitternut@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> they were a product of South Africa. Hard to believe a product like that
> could be produced and shipped all that way cheaper than it could be
> produced here.
I'll take a stab at it. In North America (US and Canada at least) there's
enough building being done that most of our scrap wood is being turned into
MDF and flakeboard.
Africa cuts down lots of wood, uses very little of it and ships most of it
to Europe and America. They have more leftover scrap than their building
needs will consume, and they have very low labor costs, so they must be able
to package it and ship it to us at a competitive price.
Makes sense to me anyways.
SteveO
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| CWatters 2006-03-31, 6:21 am |
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"RicodJour" <ricodjour@worldemail.com> wrote in message
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> CWatters wrote:
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> How would that breakdown with respect to ocean versus land cost?
Sorry - I never done trucking.
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| Matt Barrow 2006-03-31, 7:21 pm |
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"RicodJour" <ricodjour@worldemail.com> wrote in message
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> CWatters wrote:
Depends on the container; a tandem semi trailer would be about $5000, but
think how much it holds.
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> How would that breakdown with respect to ocean versus land cost?
Over land costs more by train than by truck. Prior to trucking deregulation,
for trains it was about 1/3 the cost of trucks. Now it's the opposite except
for exceptionally heavy or large single item loads. Thank that one to the RR
unions.
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| Matt Barrow 2006-03-31, 7:21 pm |
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"RicodJour" <ricodjour@worldemail.com> wrote in message
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> CWatters wrote:
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> How would that breakdown with respect to ocean versus land cost?
Ocean shipping is pretty cheap compared to land or air.
It used to be trucks were strictly local, picking up their loads at a
railroad dept.
No more.
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| Al Bundy 2006-03-31, 8:21 pm |
| "mrsgator88" <nomospam@nomospam.com> wrote in
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> "bitternut" <bitternut@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news:2v-dnV6-29tvVrbZRVn-ug@adelphia.com...
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> I'll take a stab at it. In North America (US and Canada at least)
> there's enough building being done that most of our scrap wood is
> being turned into MDF and flakeboard.
>
> Africa cuts down lots of wood, uses very little of it and ships most
> of it to Europe and America. They have more leftover scrap than their
> building needs will consume, and they have very low labor costs, so
> they must be able to package it and ship it to us at a competitive
> price.
>
> Makes sense to me anyways.
>
> SteveO
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>
Also turned into electricity.
The electric company in Burlington VT has a wood chip burning plant that
generates electricity. Trainloads, hundreds of cars each, come in.
http://www.burlingtonelectric.com/S...pics/Mcneil.htm
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