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| WhiteJul 2006-05-15, 1:21 am |
| I have a two car driveway and I would like to expand it for a third car, this require me to hire a contractor to dig the dirt and then pour concrete in an area that is 9 ft x 45 ft x 4 inches depth. It looks like it is 5 cubic yards of concrete. How much should a fair labor price with a decent contractor would be, and how much the concrete would cost. I live in Phoenix Arizona,
Thanks
White
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| Phil Scott 2006-05-15, 2:21 am |
| Call a few concrete companies and get a rough estimate on cost per cubic yard and average cost to finish it with the access you describe to them...that will take you less than 5 minutes and replies when averaged will be very close to your final costs.
concrete is way up however these days as most of it is going to china..
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Phil Scott
Ideas are bullet proof.
"WhiteJul" <whitejul@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:CNS9g.24035$Qz.12547@fed1read11...
I have a two car driveway and I would like to expand it for a third car, this require me to hire a contractor to dig the dirt and then pour concrete in an area that is 9 ft x 45 ft x 4 inches depth. It looks like it is 5 cubic yards of concrete. How much should a fair labor price with a decent contractor would be, and how much the concrete would cost. I live in Phoenix Arizona,
Thanks
White
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| WhiteJul 2006-05-15, 2:21 am |
| I know I can contact a few contractors, however, I came here for a ball park figure. Your answer is very broad.
"Phil Scott" <philscott@philscott.net> wrote in message news:e490i6$ink$1@news.tdl.com...
Call a few concrete companies and get a rough estimate on cost per cubic yard and average cost to finish it with the access you describe to them...that will take you less than 5 minutes and replies when averaged will be very close to your final costs.
concrete is way up however these days as most of it is going to china..
--
Phil Scott
Ideas are bullet proof.
"WhiteJul" <whitejul@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:CNS9g.24035$Qz.12547@fed1read11...
I have a two car driveway and I would like to expand it for a third car, this require me to hire a contractor to dig the dirt and then pour concrete in an area that is 9 ft x 45 ft x 4 inches depth. It looks like it is 5 cubic yards of concrete. How much should a fair labor price with a decent contractor would be, and how much the concrete would cost. I live in Phoenix Arizona,
Thanks
White
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| RicodJour 2006-05-15, 3:21 am |
| WhiteJul wrote:
> I know I can contact a few contractors, however, I came here for a ball park figure. Your answer is very broad.
So you want a "narrow" ball park figure?
Do yourself the favor and pick up the phone and get some real numbers.
R
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| WhiteJul 2006-05-15, 3:21 am |
| I'll do that first thing in the morning, but your answer is telling me that
I am wasting my time here. I did not know that it was too hard for some
people to provide some figures.
"RicodJour" <ricodjour@worldemail.com> wrote in message
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WhiteJul wrote:
> I know I can contact a few contractors, however, I came here for a ball
> park figure. Your answer is very broad.
So you want a "narrow" ball park figure?
Do yourself the favor and pick up the phone and get some real numbers.
R
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| Grumman-581 2006-05-15, 4:21 am |
| On Sun, 14 May 2006 20:43:53 -0700, "WhiteJul" <whitejul@hotmail.com>
wrote:
<snip-damn-html-post>
You need to change your newsreader to post in text, not HTML... Since
you're using IE, go to Tools->Options->Send->Mail Sending Format and
change it to "Plain Text"...
I had 700 sq-ft of concrete patio built awhile back and I was quoted
anywhere from $3 to $4 per sq-ft... Same construction technique as a
driveway, so it would be the same price...
Concrete itself will run you around $75-100 pre cu-yd... Everything
else is labor... If you want to save some money, subcontract out the
day laborers to dig the area and set the forms... That's the most back
breaking part of the work... The rebar is easy to do and you can do it
yourself if you so desire... Get some more day laborers for when
you're ready to pour the concrete...
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| Nehmo Sergheyev 2006-05-15, 4:21 am |
| A flatwork guy in AZ would have to answer. Up here in KC maybe 1.5 to
2K$.Concrete is $75/yard^3 + you'll need crushed rock and metal.
Personally, I'd go 6" on a driveway, but that's in part to compensate
for my ignorance.
http://www.concretenetwork.com/conc...ways/index.html
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| WhiteJul 2006-05-15, 4:21 am |
| Thanks for the advice and for the answer. Did you get your quotes including
or excluding the concrete?
I got a quote for pouring concrete on 905 sq feet, 4 inches depth (squared
areas are 9' x 45' and 20' x 25". The contractor is charging me $2,000 plus
I will have to pay for the concrete. He says it will be aprox 12 cubic yards
@ roughly $100 each.
Is it customary that the owner has to pay for the concrete? Do I have a good
quote or I need to keep looking?
"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM-gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 14 May 2006 20:43:53 -0700, "WhiteJul" <whitejul@hotmail.com>
wrote:
<snip-damn-html-post>
You need to change your newsreader to post in text, not HTML... Since
you're using IE, go to Tools->Options->Send->Mail Sending Format and
change it to "Plain Text"...
I had 700 sq-ft of concrete patio built awhile back and I was quoted
anywhere from $3 to $4 per sq-ft... Same construction technique as a
driveway, so it would be the same price...
Concrete itself will run you around $75-100 pre cu-yd... Everything
else is labor... If you want to save some money, subcontract out the
day laborers to dig the area and set the forms... That's the most back
breaking part of the work... The rebar is easy to do and you can do it
yourself if you so desire... Get some more day laborers for when
you're ready to pour the concrete...
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| WhiteJul 2006-05-15, 4:21 am |
| Thanks. As posted a little earlier, for 805 sq ft I was quoted $2K for labor
plus 12 cubic yards of concrete, which is another $1.2K. How does it sound?
"Nehmo Sergheyev" <nehmo54@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1147675187.753002.162920@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
A flatwork guy in AZ would have to answer. Up here in KC maybe 1.5 to
2K$.Concrete is $75/yard^3 + you'll need crushed rock and metal.
Personally, I'd go 6" on a driveway, but that's in part to compensate
for my ignorance.
http://www.concretenetwork.com/conc...ways/index.html
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(||) Nehmo (||)
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| Phil Scott 2006-05-15, 4:21 am |
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Phil Scott
Ideas are bullet proof.
"WhiteJul" <whitejul@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I'll do that first thing in the morning, but your answer is
> telling me that
> I am wasting my time here. I did not know that it was too
> hard for some
> people to provide some figures.
pricing is both regional and variable depending on cement
supplies at any given moment.
Phil Scott
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> "RicodJour" <ricodjour@worldemail.com> wrote in message
> news:1147671592.162034.158280@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> WhiteJul wrote:
>
> So you want a "narrow" ball park figure?
>
> Do yourself the favor and pick up the phone and get some
> real numbers.
>
> R
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| WhiteJul 2006-05-15, 4:21 am |
| I meant 905 sq ft!
"WhiteJul" <whitejul@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:btV9g.27664$Qz.26842@fed1read11...
Thanks. As posted a little earlier, for 805 sq ft I was quoted $2K for labor
plus 12 cubic yards of concrete, which is another $1.2K. How does it sound?
"Nehmo Sergheyev" <nehmo54@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1147675187.753002.162920@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
A flatwork guy in AZ would have to answer. Up here in KC maybe 1.5 to
2K$.Concrete is $75/yard^3 + you'll need crushed rock and metal.
Personally, I'd go 6" on a driveway, but that's in part to compensate
for my ignorance.
http://www.concretenetwork.com/conc...ways/index.html
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(||) Nehmo (||)
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| Phil Scott 2006-05-15, 4:21 am |
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Phil Scott
Ideas are bullet proof.
"WhiteJul" <whitejul@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bqV9g.27599$Qz.6780@fed1read11...
> Thanks for the advice and for the answer. Did you get your
> quotes including
> or excluding the concrete?
> I got a quote for pouring concrete on 905 sq feet, 4 inches
> depth (squared
> areas are 9' x 45' and 20' x 25". The contractor is charging
> me $2,000 plus
> I will have to pay for the concrete. He says it will be
> aprox 12 cubic yards
> @ roughly $100 each.
> Is it customary that the owner has to pay for the concrete?
> Do I have a good
> quote or I need to keep looking?
Depends on quality... etc. How good a job will be done, now
much rebar will be placed... again no one on this NG can
answer those questions, only you can and you do that by
getting quotes.
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> "Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM-gmail.com> wrote
> in message
> news:u07g62d9j965ci30i0sargov26ato7dbd2@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 14 May 2006 20:43:53 -0700, "WhiteJul"
> <whitejul@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> <snip-damn-html-post>
>
> You need to change your newsreader to post in text, not
> HTML... Since
> you're using IE, go to Tools->Options->Send->Mail Sending
> Format and
> change it to "Plain Text"...
>
> I had 700 sq-ft of concrete patio built awhile back and I
> was quoted
> anywhere from $3 to $4 per sq-ft... Same construction
> technique as a
> driveway, so it would be the same price...
>
> Concrete itself will run you around $75-100 pre cu-yd...
> Everything
> else is labor... If you want to save some money, subcontract
> out the
> day laborers to dig the area and set the forms... That's the
> most back
> breaking part of the work... The rebar is easy to do and you
> can do it
> yourself if you so desire... Get some more day laborers for
> when
> you're ready to pour the concrete...
>
>
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| Nehmo Sergheyev 2006-05-15, 4:21 am |
| I didn't read your post right first time around. I was estimating for
the whole job. You want to split up the materials and labor and find
someone to do the labor. You might be able to pull it off. Practice by
doing someone else's driveway first.
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| Grumman-581 2006-05-15, 4:21 am |
| On Sun, 14 May 2006 23:43:43 -0700, "WhiteJul" <whitejul@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Thanks for the advice and for the answer. Did you get your quotes including
> or excluding the concrete?
It included the concrete...
> I got a quote for pouring concrete on 905 sq feet, 4 inches depth (squared
> areas are 9' x 45' and 20' x 25". The contractor is charging me $2,000 plus
> I will have to pay for the concrete. He says it will be aprox 12 cubic yards
> @ roughly $100 each.
> Is it customary that the owner has to pay for the concrete? Do I have a good
> quote or I need to keep looking?
It depends upon who you hire... If they charge a flat fee for the
excavation work based on the square-footage, it would be in your best
interest to capitalize on this and make the concrete thicker... Often,
when they say a 4" slab, they're using 1x4s, so you would only be
getting 3.5"... Since the bottom is never perfectly smooth, it
probably comes pretty close though...One part of my patio has a 6"
thickness, the rest of it is 4"... If they are experiencing a lot of
variance in concrete prices on a day to day basis, I can understand
why they might want to seperate it out...
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| Grumman-581 2006-05-15, 4:21 am |
| On 14 May 2006 23:52:52 -0700, "Nehmo Sergheyev" <nehmo54@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> I didn't read your post right first time around. I was estimating for
> the whole job. You want to split up the materials and labor and find
> someone to do the labor. You might be able to pull it off. Practice by
> doing someone else's driveway first.
Nawh, practice with a small backyard tool shed or walkway first...
Even better might be a concrete slab for your dog's house since you
can do it without any help... It would be something small enough that
you could do it yourself with bag concrete... Once you understand the
process well enough, then you can subcontract out the labor to do a
larger project or one that might show a bit more... Depending upon
where you're located, site prep might just consist of removing the
grass and putting up the forms...
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5 cubic yards of concrete. How much should a fair labor price
$ 100 yd for the crete and 45 cents a sf to place and broom finish
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"Rudy" <NoSpam@no-onehome.net> wrote in message
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> 5 cubic yards of concrete. How much should a fair labor price
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> $ 100 yd for the crete and 45 cents a sf to place and broom finish
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Great price! You paying illegals that 45 cents? 4000 psi 50/50 is running
about 120 in the northeast. I pay 5.50 s/f for broom finish, 9.00 s/f for
stamp/aggregate. That includes set up, joints, sealers etc.
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| Don wrote:
> "Rudy" <NoSpam@no-onehome.net> wrote in message
> news:NObag.168032$WI1.65263@pd7tw2no...
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> Great price! You paying illegals that 45 cents? 4000 psi 50/50 is running
> about 120 in the northeast. I pay 5.50 s/f for broom finish, 9.00 s/f for
> stamp/aggregate. That includes set up, joints, sealers etc.
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>
In very rural areas $.50 a sq' can be common but that aint the OP. We
are in a fairly remote part of WV and we commonly have subs quoting us
in that ball park for smooth, machine troweled.
The two most recent were a 540sq' addition with full basement. Finisher
charged $0.55 a square. A different job, different finisher, charged
$0.50 a square for a 900sq' garage floor. 2 car garage, 2 bays, floor
drain in each (each bay pitched to center).
That said, we are relocated here from NE and remeber full well what we
paid for finishing back there.
Concrete here is around $100-$115 depending on the mix and plant.
From what I have read about building costs in the SW I wound say your
prices for finishing, to double that, wouldnt be surprising in the SW.
Mark
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| > Great price! You paying illegals that 45 cents?
Nope, normal small contractor (3 guys) /finisher outfit. Privately owned
vehicles and own (hand) tools.
Look at it this way, I formed and placed the rebar for my 16' X ~ 45'
driveway and 345 sf slab patio.
The concrete trucks arrived at 0700 as did the 3 finishers.
The ~11 yards were placed and broom finished by 10:30 and the cost ran $
525.00
That makes it $50.00/hr for each guy..I think thats more than fair.. Wish I
ever made 50 bucks an hour.
> I pay 5.50 s/f for broom finish ..
Say no more ! 10 X what I paid the $ 50.00 hr guys .. OMG, even when the
boom around here made the trades in short supply (there was one "spare"
finisher around here) and he was charging a "big" $ 1.00 sf broom & $2.00
sf for exposed agg. and I thought that was high
R
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"Rudy" <NoSpam@no-onehome.net> wrote in message
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> Nope, normal small contractor (3 guys) /finisher outfit. Privately owned
> vehicles and own (hand) tools.
>
> Look at it this way, I formed and placed the rebar for my 16' X ~ 45'
> driveway and 345 sf slab patio.
> The concrete trucks arrived at 0700 as did the 3 finishers.
> The ~11 yards were placed and broom finished by 10:30 and the cost ran $
> 525.00
> That makes it $50.00/hr for each guy..I think thats more than fair.. Wish
I
> ever made 50 bucks an hour.
>
>
> Say no more ! 10 X what I paid the $ 50.00 hr guys .. OMG, even when
the
> boom around here made the trades in short supply (there was one "spare"
> finisher around here) and he was charging a "big" $ 1.00 sf broom &
$2.00
> sf for exposed agg. and I thought that was high
>
> R
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>
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No kiddin.............where you at?
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| >> Nope, normal small contractor (3 guys) /finisher outfit. Privately owned
> I ever made 50 bucks an hour.
> $2.00 sf for exposed agg. and I thought that was high
> No kiddin.............where you at?
Kelowna BC Canada
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