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concrete anchors for railing
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| rocky47@my-deja.com 2006-05-19, 4:21 pm |
| Hi:
I am in the process of installing vinyl covered aluminum railing on my
concret patio. I need to dill 4 holes per post and use some sort of (at
least) 3/8' type anchor at 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 length.
My question is what is the best type: wedge, sleeve, or tapcon. I came
across some large (3/8") tapcon bolts at a busy beaver near my home. I
have used the tapcon screws to install cabineys in my garage and they
seem to hold a lot of weight and they can be removed leaving only a
hole to fill if one makes a mistake (which I often do). Are the bolts
sufficient for my use or one of the other typs?
thx
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| Bob Morrison 2006-05-19, 10:21 pm |
| In a previous post rocky47@my-deja.com wrote...
> My question is what is the best type: wedge, sleeve, or tapcon. I came
> across some large (3/8") tapcon bolts at a busy beaver near my home. I
> have used the tapcon screws to install cabineys in my garage and they
> seem to hold a lot of weight and they can be removed leaving only a
> hole to fill if one makes a mistake (which I often do). Are the bolts
> sufficient for my use or one of the other typs?
>
True Tapcons only come in 1/4" max diameter. I assume you were looking at
a Powers Wedge-Bolt or Simpson Titen HD.
Neither of these is approved for outdoor use. I suggest the use of
stainless steel wedge anchors or something similar.
--
Bob Morrison, PE, SE
R L Morrison Engineering Co
Structural & Civil Engineering
Poulsbo WA
bob at rlmorrisonengr dot com
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| what the hell? You're the first SE who didn't call for HY 150 with a 10"
embed on everything ;)
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| Dan Deckert 2006-05-20, 3:21 am |
| Have to agree w/Bob on this...."I suggest the use of
stainless steel wedge anchors or something similar." I just happen to be a
fan of Hilti anchors. Used universally in my trade and they provide
guarantees as long as install is per mfg. recommendations. But I love Hilti
epoxy even better.....way easier amount of work and less time. Cost is
higher but WTH?
Dan
<rocky47@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:1148064591.606395.52780@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Hi:
>
> I am in the process of installing vinyl covered aluminum railing on my
> concret patio. I need to dill 4 holes per post and use some sort of (at
> least) 3/8' type anchor at 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 length.
>
> My question is what is the best type: wedge, sleeve, or tapcon. I came
> across some large (3/8") tapcon bolts at a busy beaver near my home. I
> have used the tapcon screws to install cabineys in my garage and they
> seem to hold a lot of weight and they can be removed leaving only a
> hole to fill if one makes a mistake (which I often do). Are the bolts
> sufficient for my use or one of the other typs?
>
> thx
>
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| Bob Morrison 2006-05-20, 1:21 pm |
| In a previous post Dan Deckert wrote...
> Have to agree w/Bob on this...."I suggest the use of
> stainless steel wedge anchors or something similar." I just happen to be a
> fan of Hilti anchors. Used universally in my trade and they provide
> guarantees as long as install is per mfg. recommendations. But I love Hilti
> epoxy even better.....way easier amount of work and less time. Cost is
> higher but WTH?
>
Dan is correct when he says that the epoxy resins available today are
pretty easy to use. So that certainly is an alternative to the wedge
anchors I suggested earlier.
--
Bob Morrison, PE, SE
R L Morrison Engineering Co
Structural & Civil Engineering
Poulsbo WA
bob at rlmorrisonengr dot com
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| rocky47@my-deja.com 2006-05-20, 2:21 pm |
| Thx for all the responses.
My question----where does one find out more/purchase the epoxy
resin---never heard of it.
thx again
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| Here is one brand:
http://www.powers.com/adhesive_foam.html
Also made by Ramset, Hilti, Simpson, and others.
______________________________
Keep the whole world singing . . . .
DanG (remove the sevens)
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<rocky47@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> Thx for all the responses.
>
> My question----where does one find out more/purchase the epoxy
> resin---never heard of it.
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> thx again
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| Dan Deckert 2006-05-22, 12:21 pm |
| Nehmo,
Ironworker. Wedge type &/or Epoxy. Wedge up to 3/4" but mostly 1/2" & under.
Epoxy otherwise, no glass vial types, just the 2 part that mixes thru the
nozzle. Last test was about 6 years ago, vertical pull, 3/4", epoxy based,
8" embedment and tested to 5,000lbs. tension
Dan
"Nehmo Sergheyev" <nehmo54@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Dan Deckert wrote:
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> Nehmo -
> What's your trade, and which Hilti anchor?
> http://www.us.hilti.com/holus/modul...l/adas_main.jsp
> --
> (||) Nehmo (||)
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| what local are you Dan?, L.U. 22 here
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| Dan Deckert 2006-05-23, 2:21 pm |
| 14, Spokane/Tri-Cities
"dave" <balnk@my.ney> wrote in message
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> what local are you Dan?, L.U. 22 here
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| Bobk207 2006-05-24, 3:21 am |
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rocky47@my-deja.com wrote:
> Thx for all the responses.
>
> My question----where does one find out more/purchase the epoxy
> resin---never heard of it.
>
> thx again
I would suggest SIKA AnchorFix products (they have a fast ~3 minutes &
a slow ~ 1 hr)
available at the Home Depots in SoCal
works in a standard caulking gun
good stuff
cheers
Bob
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| Tekkie® 2006-05-24, 9:21 pm |
| posted for all of us...
I don't top post - see either inline or at bottom.
> Hi:
>
> I am in the process of installing vinyl covered aluminum railing on my
> concret patio. I need to dill 4 holes per post and use some sort of (at
> least) 3/8' type anchor at 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 length.
>
> My question is what is the best type: wedge, sleeve, or tapcon. I came
> across some large (3/8") tapcon bolts at a busy beaver near my home. I
> have used the tapcon screws to install cabineys in my garage and they
> seem to hold a lot of weight and they can be removed leaving only a
> hole to fill if one makes a mistake (which I often do). Are the bolts
> sufficient for my use or one of the other typs?
>
> thx
>
>
3M has some concrete anchor materials. Mixes in nozzle then spray your bolt
with release spray, thread bolt in, makes threads, unscrew bolt, let harden,
set railings and screw bolts in, done.
--
Tekkie
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