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| wizguru 2006-06-19, 8:25 pm |
| We have a 40+ year old rental home in Alamogordo, NM. One
morning, I noticed a large Lull forklift ILLEGALLY parked adjacent to
our North block retaining wall on the sidewalk adjacent to the wall
about 2 feet from the wall. I also noticed that opposite to where each
of the Lull wheels rested on the ground the wall is severely cracked
just above the sidewalk. I had inspected the area two days earlier for
weeds and debris and there was no wall cracking at that time and no
raining in between. And there is no wall cracking between the cracked
areas or on either side of the cracked areas. Later measurements by me
indicate that the sidewalk was sunken in about a 1/2" where the Lull
tires rested. My tests also indicate that the inner edge of the
sidewalk rests on the outer edge of the wall's foundation. I do not
know for certain if the wall's foundation is also damaged. I used a
metal detector to verify
that there is rebar in the cinder block.
I took many photos of the Lull and wall, a few of which are at:
www.jjwill.com/DamagedWall.htm
The land where the Lull was parked - my property - is pitched about 5
degrees up to the
wall. I estimate that the weight of the Lull to be about 8,000 lbs
(actual weight??), and that the shear force into the wall was therefore
about 700 lbs (8000 x sin[5 deg.]) plus there was likely much greater
direct downward force on the wall's foundation, probably 1,000s of
pounds. Clearly,
the Lull cracked the wall. However, the insurance company of the Lull
owner (a contractor building a clinic adjacent to our property) has
refused to pay, claiming that the wall is "old" and probably has a
"defective foundation." Because of this refusal, we will probably have
to litigate this matter.
I have done some relevant Internet research with limited results. I
still
need to obtain definitive information on: (A) Government and industry
safe distance standards, regulations, etc. for driving and parking
heavy construction vehicles near walls and buildings. (B) Specific Lull
operating manual and other Lull documentation that addresses this
safety issue. (C) Websites, books, specific periodicals, etc. which
addresses these issues. (D) The make, model, and closer approximation
of Lull weight. (E) Based on the Lull's number shown in a photo, how to
trace the Lull, its history and ownership in NM. (F) OSHA forbids
"stunt driving" of construction equipment,
based on definition of stunt driving, this incident clearly is covered,
but if you know specific on-target stunt driving precedents relied upon
by OSHA,
please let me know. (G) If you know someone who can evaluate and
testify as an expert witness in the Alamogordo, NM, area please let me
know (not a dire necessity since most jurors already understand
gravity). (H) I expect my causes of action will far exceed negligence
and trespass and to
file a lawsuit for a very large amount in NM State District Court,
should you know
of an attorney who would probably be interested in handling my case on
a
contingency-fee basis, please let me know.
I am an older Disabled Veteran who knows little about repairing block
walls, so if you know someone reliable and modestly-priced contractor
in the south-central New Mexico area who can inspect my wall and/or
give me an estimate for free or low-cost, please also let me know.
Also, if you know of a reliable structural engineer in this area who
can evaluate the situation to ascertain just how great the damage,
please let me know.
Please respond. I need all the help I can get. Thanks. John J. XXXXXXXX
wizguru@jjwill.com
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| mrsgator88 2006-06-20, 3:25 am |
| Just file a claim with your insurance company. They'll sue the he!! outta
those people.
S
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| > We have a 40+ year old rental home in Alamogordo, NM. One
> morning, I noticed a large Lull forklift ILLEGALLY parked adjacent to
> our North block retaining wall on the sidewalk adjacent to the wall
Didnt you get enough answers when you asked this same question over a month
ago ?
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| nailshooter41@aol.com 2006-06-20, 3:25 am |
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Rudy wrote:
>
> Didnt you get enough answers when you asked this same question over a month
> ago ?
Apparently you are no farther now than when you started this quest
several weeks ago with your crossposts to different newsgroups.
You will not win this. You cannot prove that the wall was cracked by
stress caused by the lift, and since you don't know the construction
details relevant to the wall and the underlying concrete you cannot
prove your theory without jack hammering up the walk, the attacment
details and the wall footing to test their relationship.
You would need to have the concrete tested, the steel iteself as well
as its placement tested, and then hire and engineer that is willing to
go to court ($$$$$) to write your reports in a way that the public can
understand them. Soil samples would be studied for inherent soil
plasticity. Rainfall would be looked at closely to deterenine the role
of water and hydraulic pressures on the wall. Was it even engineered
correctly at the onset? Just because you didn't have problems before
didn't mean it wasn't a problem waiting to happen. Then worst of all,
he would have to prove that the very lift in your picture was the one
that did the damage. Your word on this will mean almost nothing in
court.
You would have to prove that the wall was not overstressed and cracked
before that lift arrived, and that the lift was the sole cause of the
problem. How does anyone know except by your word that the wall wasn't
cracked before the lift was parked there? Don't you think the lift
users can find their own witnesses, their own experts, and then demand
irrefutable proof from you that the wall was completely intact and
working as intended the day before the lift arrived? And did I mention
that the burden would be on you to prove that it was the very lift you
are saying and no other forces that caused the problem?
A quick look reveals that something here isn't necessarily consistent
with your claim. Depending on the underlaying strata, a sidewalk isn't
usually doweled or connected into a retaining wall, The wall is
yours, the sidewalk is not. However, connected or not, while difficult
to tell from your pictures, it seems that you have shear cracks, and
those are due to large up and down movements, My experience has been
that when I have driven too much of a load onto a connected surface (in
my case a concrete parking lot attached to the retaining wall) the wall
will crack horizontally much more than vertically. As one can see,
that is not the case with your crack.
By the way, did I mention that you have to have undisputed, iron clad
proof that it was THEIR machinery that did it on the exact day you
think it was, and that no other machine was there before hand, or that
some of the cars parked there didn't go up on the sidewalk for some
unknown reason?
I doubt you will get many takers on your website requesting free
professional services. You are asking professional experts to donate
thousands of dollars not to mention thousands of collective hours for
free so you can have a couple of your bricks replaced. Obviously you
have either never been sued, never sued anyone, or actually believe the
lawyer shows on TV. In any event, good luck.
Robert
Typically, a
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| RicodJour 2006-06-20, 9:25 am |
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wizguru wrote:
> We have a 40+ year old rental home in Alamogordo, NM. One
> morning, I noticed a large Lull forklift ILLEGALLY parked adjacent to
> our North block retaining wall on the sidewalk adjacent to the wall
> about 2 feet from the wall. I also noticed that opposite to where each
> of the Lull wheels rested on the ground the wall is severely cracked
> just above the sidewalk. I had inspected the area two days earlier for
> weeds and debris and there was no wall cracking at that time and no
> raining in between. And there is no wall cracking between the cracked
> areas or on either side of the cracked areas. Later measurements by me
> indicate that the sidewalk was sunken in about a 1/2" where the Lull
> tires rested. My tests also indicate that the inner edge of the
> sidewalk rests on the outer edge of the wall's foundation. I do not
> know for certain if the wall's foundation is also damaged. I used a
> metal detector to verify
> that there is rebar in the cinder block.
>
> I took many photos of the Lull and wall, a few of which are at:
> www.jjwill.com/DamagedWall.htm
>
> The land where the Lull was parked - my property - is pitched about 5
> degrees up to the
> wall. I estimate that the weight of the Lull to be about 8,000 lbs
> (actual weight??), and that the shear force into the wall was therefore
> about 700 lbs (8000 x sin[5 deg.]) plus there was likely much greater
> direct downward force on the wall's foundation, probably 1,000s of
> pounds. Clearly,
> the Lull cracked the wall. However, the insurance company of the Lull
> owner (a contractor building a clinic adjacent to our property) has
> refused to pay, claiming that the wall is "old" and probably has a
> "defective foundation." Because of this refusal, we will probably have
> to litigate this matter.
>
> I have done some relevant Internet research with limited results. I
> still
> need to obtain definitive information on: (A) Government and industry
> safe distance standards, regulations, etc. for driving and parking
> heavy construction vehicles near walls and buildings. (B) Specific Lull
> operating manual and other Lull documentation that addresses this
> safety issue. (C) Websites, books, specific periodicals, etc. which
> addresses these issues. (D) The make, model, and closer approximation
> of Lull weight. (E) Based on the Lull's number shown in a photo, how to
> trace the Lull, its history and ownership in NM. (F) OSHA forbids
> "stunt driving" of construction equipment,
> based on definition of stunt driving, this incident clearly is covered,
> but if you know specific on-target stunt driving precedents relied upon
> by OSHA,
> please let me know. (G) If you know someone who can evaluate and
> testify as an expert witness in the Alamogordo, NM, area please let me
> know (not a dire necessity since most jurors already understand
> gravity). (H) I expect my causes of action will far exceed negligence
> and trespass and to
> file a lawsuit for a very large amount in NM State District Court,
> should you know
> of an attorney who would probably be interested in handling my case on
> a
> contingency-fee basis, please let me know.
>
> I am an older Disabled Veteran who knows little about repairing block
> walls, so if you know someone reliable and modestly-priced contractor
> in the south-central New Mexico area who can inspect my wall and/or
> give me an estimate for free or low-cost, please also let me know.
> Also, if you know of a reliable structural engineer in this area who
> can evaluate the situation to ascertain just how great the damage,
> please let me know.
> Please respond. I need all the help I can get. Thanks. John J. XXXXXXXX
The wall is cracked while the sidewalk is not. For the sidewalk to
sink 1/2" in only a small area in such a short amount of time it would
have to crack.
I suspect that your wall is not built on a suitable footing.
R
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| longshot 2006-06-20, 9:25 am |
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> The wall is cracked while the sidewalk is not. For the sidewalk to
> sink 1/2" in only a small area in such a short amount of time it would
> have to crack.
>
> I suspect that your wall is not built on a suitable footing.
>
> R
>
how do you prove there were no cracks on the wall a few days before the lull
was parked there. I think you are looking for some free money.
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| Al Bundy 2006-06-20, 9:25 pm |
| "wizguru" <wizguru@tsc-global.com> wrote in news:1150766025.616736.89470
@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
> We have a 40+ year old rental home in Alamogordo, NM. One
> morning, I noticed a large Lull forklift ILLEGALLY parked adjacent to
> our North block retaining wall on the sidewalk adjacent to the wall
> about 2 feet from the wall. I also noticed that opposite to where each
> of the Lull wheels rested on the ground the wall is severely cracked
> just above the sidewalk. I had inspected the area two days earlier for
> weeds and debris and there was no wall cracking at that time and no
> raining in between. And there is no wall cracking between the cracked
> areas or on either side of the cracked areas. Later measurements by me
> indicate that the sidewalk was sunken in about a 1/2" where the Lull
> tires rested. My tests also indicate that the inner edge of the
> sidewalk rests on the outer edge of the wall's foundation. I do not
> know for certain if the wall's foundation is also damaged. I used a
> metal detector to verify
> that there is rebar in the cinder block.
>
> I took many photos of the Lull and wall, a few of which are at:
> www.jjwill.com/DamagedWall.htm
>
> The land where the Lull was parked - my property - is pitched about 5
> degrees up to the
> wall. I estimate that the weight of the Lull to be about 8,000 lbs
> (actual weight??), and that the shear force into the wall was therefore
> about 700 lbs (8000 x sin[5 deg.]) plus there was likely much greater
> direct downward force on the wall's foundation, probably 1,000s of
> pounds. Clearly,
> the Lull cracked the wall. However, the insurance company of the Lull
> owner (a contractor building a clinic adjacent to our property) has
> refused to pay, claiming that the wall is "old" and probably has a
> "defective foundation." Because of this refusal, we will probably have
> to litigate this matter.
>
> I have done some relevant Internet research with limited results. I
> still
> need to obtain definitive information on: (A) Government and industry
> safe distance standards, regulations, etc. for driving and parking
> heavy construction vehicles near walls and buildings. (B) Specific Lull
> operating manual and other Lull documentation that addresses this
> safety issue. (C) Websites, books, specific periodicals, etc. which
> addresses these issues. (D) The make, model, and closer approximation
> of Lull weight. (E) Based on the Lull's number shown in a photo, how to
> trace the Lull, its history and ownership in NM. (F) OSHA forbids
> "stunt driving" of construction equipment,
> based on definition of stunt driving, this incident clearly is covered,
> but if you know specific on-target stunt driving precedents relied upon
> by OSHA,
> please let me know. (G) If you know someone who can evaluate and
> testify as an expert witness in the Alamogordo, NM, area please let me
> know (not a dire necessity since most jurors already understand
> gravity). (H) I expect my causes of action will far exceed negligence
> and trespass and to
> file a lawsuit for a very large amount in NM State District Court,
> should you know
> of an attorney who would probably be interested in handling my case on
> a
> contingency-fee basis, please let me know.
>
> I am an older Disabled Veteran who knows little about repairing block
> walls, so if you know someone reliable and modestly-priced contractor
> in the south-central New Mexico area who can inspect my wall and/or
> give me an estimate for free or low-cost, please also let me know.
> Also, if you know of a reliable structural engineer in this area who
> can evaluate the situation to ascertain just how great the damage,
> please let me know.
> Please respond. I need all the help I can get. Thanks. John J. XXXXXXXX
> wizguru@jjwill.com
>
Yo! You got some bad Alzheimer's dude. Of course, you wouldn't remember.
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"wizguru" <wizguru@tsc-global.com> wrote in message
news:1150766025.616736.89470@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
> We have a 40+ year old rental home in Alamogordo, NM. One
> morning, I noticed a large Lull forklift ILLEGALLY parked
> adjacent to our North block retaining wall on the
> sidewalk adjacent to the wall about 2 feet from the wall.
Why are we all responding to this guy? It is obvious all he wants
is some testimony from experts to use to sue someone for some easy
money. I have no use for the type personally.
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| wizguru 2006-06-22, 3:25 am |
| The Lull caused the damage, and I am very confident I can prove it
based on a preponderance of evidence. Most juries are reasonable and
use common sense in rendering a decision.
I spent months trying to reasonably deal with their attorney to just
repair the wall - I asked for no money for me - but just repair the
wall. I have done everything reasonably possible to avoid a lawsuit.
They forced me to sue and I shall sue.
I finally got a response that they would replace the bricks. I
responded that was acceptable to me but they would have to guarantee
their work for a year against defects in workmanship and materials,
ascertain that the wall's foundation was not cracked (as it makes no
sense to put good bricks on top of a bad foundation), and to make sure
the site was safe while they were working on it (because of the public
sidewalk). Their response was then to refuse to do the repairs. Seems
to me their intent was to just slop some bricks in there.
Not shown in the photos, the sidewalk is heavily cracked on both sides
of where the Lull was parked. And as I stated, where the Lull wheels
rested, the sidewalk is depressed about 1/2". Furthermore, parking on a
sidewalk in Alamogordo is ILLEGAL, and I own the land on both sides of
the sidewalk, so they had trespassed my property and parked on it
without financially compensating me for that privilege or seeking my
permission.
If anyone has an agenda, it is some of the people responding here -
obviously construction industry types with an agenda to excuse any
construction industry safety-related misbehavior or violation in safety
standards. None of these critics have identified exactly who they are
and what they do in the construction industries, or why we should
assume that they are objective or have any expertise whatsoever. If the
Government had listened to their logic, Timothy McVeigh would have
never been tried for the Oklahoma Federal Building bombing, because
according to them there is no way to prove that the rush of air from
the bomb caused the building to collapse unless a host of experts are
called in to testify about air pressure physics, air temperature, air
humidity and all other matter of astronomical and gravitational
phenomena, and additional experts to prove that this old building was
not defective and not about ready to collapse on its own anyhow. Al
Qaida would love to have these types on their juries! These guys are
self-serving, ridiculous and stupifying to listen to.
What is the model of this Lull? How much does it actually weigh? And
does its safety manual warn against driving or parking too close to
structures? Please, just give me simple answers on these questions.
John
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|
| >Furthermore, parking on a
> sidewalk in Alamogordo is ILLEGAL, and I own the land on both sides of
> the sidewalk, so they had trespassed my property and parked on it
> without financially compensating me for that privilege or seeking my
> permission.
Woo-Hoo Sue for that too ! Didnt they put a nickel in your parking meter
?
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| longshot 2006-06-22, 9:25 am |
|
> according to them there is no way to prove that the rush of air from
> the bomb caused the building to collapse unless a host of experts are
> called in to testify about air pressure physics, air temperature, air
> humidity and all other matter of astronomical and gravitational
> phenomena, and additional experts to prove that this old building was
> not defective and not about ready to collapse on its own anyhow. Al
> Qaida would love to have these types on their juries! These guys are
> self-serving, ridiculous and stupifying to listen to.
>
>
> John
>
how many times have you sued or threatened to sue? I think you make a living
working over the system....
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| nailshooter41@aol.com 2006-06-22, 1:25 pm |
|
wizguru wrote:
SNIP
> If anyone has an agenda, it is some of the people responding here -
> obviously construction industry types with an agenda to excuse any
> construction industry safety-related misbehavior or violation in safety
> standards. None of these critics have identified exactly who they are
> and what they do in the construction industries, or why we should
> assume that they are objective or have any expertise whatsoever. If the
> Government had listened to their logic, Timothy McVeigh would have
> never been tried for the Oklahoma Federal Building bombing, because
> according to them there is no way to prove that the rush of air from
> the bomb caused the building to collapse unless a host of experts are
> called in to testify about air pressure physics, air temperature, air
> humidity and all other matter of astronomical and gravitational
> phenomena, and additional experts to prove that this old building was
> not defective and not about ready to collapse on its own anyhow. Al
> Qaida would love to have these types on their juries! These guys are
> self-serving, ridiculous and stupifying to listen to.
>
SNIP
> John
OK John, I have been a self employed general contractor in S. Texas for
25 years, and have been "in the trades" for 31 . I have been called in
as an expert witness (read: paid) because of my expertise on commercial
and one residential case.
I am a certified HUD construction specialist. I am a consultant for
more than one investment bank here in town. I do quality control
inspections for several clients a year on their custom homes.
At first I felt bad for you, and looking at your situation that is why
I took the time to reply. I thought maybe you were some lost soul that
didn't have a clue on how things really work in the legal system.
I still think you are lost, but you are also a jackass. You have
gotten some relevant advice and comments both times you went fishing
with this, and since you didn't get what you want, you have started
your whining again. Begging for free services, begging for free
advice, and begging for information that you are simply too stupid or
too lazy to find on your own doesn't say much about your conviction in
this process. If someone will donate their time and services, you will
let them. How generous.
And shame on you for playing the "I'm a disabled vet" card. I live in
San Antonio, Texas, where at one time we had 5 military bases. I am
from a proud, military town filled with tradition and strength. The
only people here that try to get sympathy and free goods and services
by crying about being disabled vets are the guys with the cardboard
signs at the intersections.
And as far as associating me in any possible way with terrorists for
any reason, screw your whining punk XXX.
We should all be so lucky that the wall would fall on you next time you
walk buy to take more pictures.
Robert
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| Andy Asberry 2006-06-22, 1:25 pm |
| On 19 Jun 2006 18:13:45 -0700, "wizguru" <wizguru@tsc-global.com>
wrote:
>We have a 40+ year old rental home in Alamogordo, NM. One
>morning, I noticed a large Lull forklift ILLEGALLY parked adjacent to
>our North block retaining wall on the sidewalk adjacent to the wall
>about 2 feet from the wall. I also noticed that opposite to where each
>of the Lull wheels rested on the ground the wall is severely cracked
>just above the sidewalk. I had inspected the area two days earlier for
>weeds and debris and there was no wall cracking at that time and no
>raining in between. And there is no wall cracking between the cracked
>areas or on either side of the cracked areas. Later measurements by me
>indicate that the sidewalk was sunken in about a 1/2" where the Lull
>tires rested. My tests also indicate that the inner edge of the
>sidewalk rests on the outer edge of the wall's foundation. I do not
>know for certain if the wall's foundation is also damaged. I used a
>metal detector to verify
>that there is rebar in the cinder block.
>
>I took many photos of the Lull and wall, a few of which are at:
>www.jjwill.com/DamagedWall.htm
>
Big Snip
I looked at your home for rent/sale photos. From them, it appears to
me that a bunch of not-so-handy-homeowner type additions/repairs have
been done. The extra space of a corner lot is negated by facing a four
lane road...with a medical clinic in the backyard.
My first question is how thick are the blocks. How are the posts for
the cedar fence attached to the wall? Are the cracks near a post
connection? Again, from the photos, it appears the wall mortar has
been pointed up or caulked. Perhaps the recent cracks are simply a
continuation of an ongoing problem.
I think you will have a hard time proving your case. To prove it to
me, you would have to have a professional engineer test and document
the following:
Remove the sidewalk section(s), are they adequate to support foot
traffic but not the weight of a heavy (30,000#) piece of equipment?
Is the sidewalk base material adequate to support the sidewalk?
Is the wall foundation and base adequate to support the wall?
Is the sidewalk somehow connected to the wall foundation so as to
transfer the Lull weight to the wall foundation?
Your situation does point out a common problem with construction
crews; disregard for others and their property. They don't have to be
good neighbors. They are in and out.
If the contractor had ribboned off the lot he was working on, this
would not even be a problem to deal with.
It happens all the time. Equipment traffic or stacks of material
compact soil, killing trees or damaging sprinkler systems. Landscaping
diverts runoff onto adjoining property.
--Andy Asberry recommends NewsGuy--
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| Dan Deckert 2006-06-22, 1:25 pm |
| Start here; http://www.ago.state.nm.us/divs/cons/cons_acc_court.htm
I have to agree with most here. You started this thread some time ago and
went nowhere. Now you're back & whining again with the same hoo-rah. Use the
above link, do some research on your own, and either shit or get off the
pot. 6 months drag out for resolving this is BS. Legal proceedings should
have been started long ago. Your time frame for legal resolution may well be
past. Read, "legal stalling!" An attorney/Legal Aid can process the
paperwork if you can't manage it. The above is for small claims court.
Dollar amounts < $10,000.00
Dan
"wizguru" <wizguru@tsc-global.com> wrote in message
news:1150957398.541498.206780@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> The Lull caused the damage, and I am very confident I can prove it
> based on a preponderance of evidence. Most juries are reasonable and
> use common sense in rendering a decision.
>
> I spent months trying to reasonably deal with their attorney to just
> repair the wall - I asked for no money for me - but just repair the
> wall. I have done everything reasonably possible to avoid a lawsuit.
> They forced me to sue and I shall sue.
>
> I finally got a response that they would replace the bricks. I
> responded that was acceptable to me but they would have to guarantee
> their work for a year against defects in workmanship and materials,
> ascertain that the wall's foundation was not cracked (as it makes no
> sense to put good bricks on top of a bad foundation), and to make sure
> the site was safe while they were working on it (because of the public
> sidewalk). Their response was then to refuse to do the repairs. Seems
> to me their intent was to just slop some bricks in there.
>
> Not shown in the photos, the sidewalk is heavily cracked on both sides
> of where the Lull was parked. And as I stated, where the Lull wheels
> rested, the sidewalk is depressed about 1/2". Furthermore, parking on a
> sidewalk in Alamogordo is ILLEGAL, and I own the land on both sides of
> the sidewalk, so they had trespassed my property and parked on it
> without financially compensating me for that privilege or seeking my
> permission.
>
> If anyone has an agenda, it is some of the people responding here -
> obviously construction industry types with an agenda to excuse any
> construction industry safety-related misbehavior or violation in safety
> standards. None of these critics have identified exactly who they are
> and what they do in the construction industries, or why we should
> assume that they are objective or have any expertise whatsoever. If the
> Government had listened to their logic, Timothy McVeigh would have
> never been tried for the Oklahoma Federal Building bombing, because
> according to them there is no way to prove that the rush of air from
> the bomb caused the building to collapse unless a host of experts are
> called in to testify about air pressure physics, air temperature, air
> humidity and all other matter of astronomical and gravitational
> phenomena, and additional experts to prove that this old building was
> not defective and not about ready to collapse on its own anyhow. Al
> Qaida would love to have these types on their juries! These guys are
> self-serving, ridiculous and stupifying to listen to.
>
>
> What is the model of this Lull? How much does it actually weigh? And
> does its safety manual warn against driving or parking too close to
> structures? Please, just give me simple answers on these questions.
>
> John
>
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| wizguru 2006-06-25, 3:25 am |
| OK, you've made it clear - you are not a Disabled Veteran, and you
detest and/or are jealous of Disabled Veterans. You made your motive
very clear. Please stop insulting Disabled Veterans - characterizing
those who perhaps ask about a job or a place to sleep as far beneath
your superior self - many of whom acquired severe PTSD, cardio or
orthopedic disabilities DEFENDING YOUR FREEDOMS YOU UNGRATEFUL JERK!
Have you no shame! DETAIL YOUR BONAFIDES TO CRITICIZE DISABLED VETERANS
FOR ANYTHING! I understand that they do a lot of construction work in
Iran - perhaps they would appreciate your sentiments about American
Disabled Veterans. Thanks for making it clear that I was right on the
mark about how terrorists defend the results of their actions based on
the very same logic you use, and that you clearly now claim that juries
also routinely subscribe to.
Any time anyone ask for any information or help with a problem on the
net - even from a Newsgroup where such co-operation is implied - they
can always be meanly characterized as, "begging." People vary
considerably on their skills at Internet research, and I assume that
most of the people of this Newsgroup are much more expert in
construction than I am and are much more aware of the sources of
construction information, and was hoping I could get factual
information from those who are. Other than your pompous nonsense, it is
clear that you know little or nothing about walls or heavy vehicles
parked near walls - regardless of what you are claiming as your
qualifications, or how much you have managed to BS others in this
Newsgroup. You clearly have such little or no knowledge that your only
viable response is to personally attack the inquirer - even stooping so
low as to attack his Disabled Veteran status - just so that you won't
be exposed that you clearly don't even have the basic construction
knowledge to answer questions that would be simple for a real expert to
answer.
Have you ever been sued, fined, revoked, suspended or otherwise
punished because of a safety-related problem? Hmmm? Please detail ALL
of your experiences, if any, or unequivocally state that you have never
been sued, fined, revoked, suspended or otherwise punished for a
safety-related problem, or else I will assume that you have and you
just want to keep it your little secret from the Newsgroup. Sour
grapes, huh? Are you employed by the construction industry or company
to prowl construction-related Newsgroups to attack anyone who
criticizes industry safety standards or actually the shocking lack
thereof? Please detail all such relationships, or clearly state that
you are not so employed or else I will assume that you are so employed
but just want to keep it your little secret from the Newsgroup.
John
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