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| vrj201@googlemail.com 2007-01-17, 9:25 am |
| Hi,
When a developer tells you that your property has been contructed "up
to Plinth" what does that actually mean?
Does is actually make any sense?
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Thanks
VJ
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| Bob Morrison 2007-01-17, 1:25 pm |
| In a previous post vrj201@googlemail.com wrote...
> When a developer tells you that your property has been contructed "up
> to Plinth" what does that actually mean?
> Does is actually make any sense?
>
> Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>
Makes no sense to me.
"Plinth" is defined as:
1. A block or slab on which a pedestal, column, or statue is placed.
2. The base block at the intersection of the baseboard and the vertical
trim around an opening.
3. A continuous course of stones supporting a wall. Also called plinth
course.
4. A square base, as for a vase.
--
Bob Morrison, PE, SE
R L Morrison Engineering Co
Structural & Civil Engineering
Poulsbo WA
bob at rlmorrisonengr dot com
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| John Reddy 2007-01-17, 1:25 pm |
| In article <1169046379.588959.135600@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
"vrj201@googlemail.com" <vrj201@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> When a developer tells you that your property has been contructed "up
> to Plinth" what does that actually mean?
> Does is actually make any sense?
>
> Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> VJ
Are you sure he didn't say it was "constructed to plans" but had
terrible pronunciation and a lisp?
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| Michael Bulatovich 2007-01-17, 1:25 pm |
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"Bob Morrison" <SpamFighter@junk.com> wrote in message
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> In a previous post vrj201@googlemail.com wrote...
>
> Makes no sense to me.
>
> "Plinth" is defined as:
>
> 1. A block or slab on which a pedestal, column, or statue is placed.
> 2. The base block at the intersection of the baseboard and the vertical
> trim around an opening.
> 3. A continuous course of stones supporting a wall. Also called plinth
> course.
> 4. A square base, as for a vase.
Maybe local zoning colloquial implying that from here up you'll have to step
back, but it's just a guess.
--
MichaelB
www.michaelbulatovich.ca
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| CWatters 2007-01-17, 5:25 pm |
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<vrj201@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> When a developer tells you that your property has been contructed "up
> to Plinth" what does that actually mean?
> Does is actually make any sense?
Yes, makes sense to me. I would expect the foundations to have been finished
and the walls built up until just out of the ground (could be a few inches
of feet). The lower floor surface may also have been constructed. Something
like this...
http://img466.imageshack.us/img466/3416/img0342kj8.jpg
A true plinth true is a thickening of the lower part of the wall to
strengthen it or give it a more robust appearance. Not a very common feature
these days but I've got one on my house. The top edge where the wall
thickness reduces to normal thickness is frequently capped with sloping
bricks so any rain water runs off.
Some wood framed houses are built on a brick plinth.
If your house has no such feature the builder is probably just using this as
short hand to mean "out of the ground" or whatever the local term is for the
stage shown in my photo above. Possibly slightly earlier as my photo shows
the floor down.
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| Michael Bulatovich 2007-01-17, 5:25 pm |
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"CWatters" <colin.watters@turnersNOSPAMoak.plus.com> wrote in message
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> <vrj201@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> news:1169046379.588959.135600@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
> Yes, makes sense to me. I would expect the foundations to have been
> finished
> and the walls built up until just out of the ground (could be a few inches
> of feet). The lower floor surface may also have been constructed.
> Something
> like this...
Is that a British term?
> http://img466.imageshack.us/img466/3416/img0342kj8.jpg
What is the material on the horizontal plane in that picture?
> A true plinth true is a thickening of the lower part of the wall to
> strengthen it or give it a more robust appearance. Not a very common
> feature
> these days but I've got one on my house. The top edge where the wall
> thickness reduces to normal thickness is frequently capped with sloping
> bricks so any rain water runs off.
....also traditionally known as a 'watercourse'.
--
MichaelB
www.michaelbulatovich.ca
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<vrj201@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> When a developer tells you that your property has been contructed "up
> to Plinth" what does that actually mean?
> Does is actually make any sense?
>
> Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> VJ
>
Don't know what he means. see Bob Morrisons description of a plinth.
CID
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"CWatters" <colin.watters@turnersNOSPAMoak.plus.com> wrote in message
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>
> <vrj201@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> news:1169046379.588959.135600@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
> Yes, makes sense to me. I would expect the foundations to have been
> finished
> and the walls built up until just out of the ground (could be a few inches
> of feet). The lower floor surface may also have been constructed.
> Something
> like this...
>
> http://img466.imageshack.us/img466/3416/img0342kj8.jpg
>
> A true plinth true is a thickening of the lower part of the wall to
> strengthen it or give it a more robust appearance. Not a very common
> feature
> these days but I've got one on my house. The top edge where the wall
> thickness reduces to normal thickness is frequently capped with sloping
> bricks so any rain water runs off.
>
> Some wood framed houses are built on a brick plinth.
>
> If your house has no such feature the builder is probably just using this
> as
> short hand to mean "out of the ground" or whatever the local term is for
> the
> stage shown in my photo above. Possibly slightly earlier as my photo shows
> the floor down.
>
And, this is only the if person in question has accepted the site and the
house design to fit the foundation that has been previously constructed.
Maybe the person has his own idea of his desired design which might not
match the 'plinth' height and geometry as told.
Then what????
CID...
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| CWatters 2007-01-18, 1:25 pm |
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"Michael Bulatovich" <Please@dont.try> wrote in message
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>
> Is that a British term?
Normally they would say "out of the ground" or "at DPC (damp proof course)
level"
>
> What is the material on the horizontal plane in that picture?
It's a beam and block floor. Concrete beams (Inverted T shape) with light
weight concrete blocks. Later it gets a layer of insulation, UFH and screed
on top.
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| CWatters 2007-01-18, 1:25 pm |
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<vrj201@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> When a developer tells you that your property has been contructed "up
> to Plinth" what does that actually mean?
> Does is actually make any sense?
Here you are ... sectional drawings of a brick plinth...
http://www.ibstock.com/architects-cad-downloads.asp
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| My experience with a plinth is as in a plinth block, the bottom
piece of a door casing, often ornate and from 6 to 12 inches high.
I've even seen/used them on the top of the door side casing but
usually they are called capitals up there
Anyway I guess what I'm talking about is spelled the same way.
<vrj201@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> When a developer tells you that your property has been
> contructed "up
> to Plinth" what does that actually mean?
> Does is actually make any sense?
>
> Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> VJ
>
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| Michael Bulatovich 2007-01-18, 8:25 pm |
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"CWatters" <colin.watters@turnersNOSPAMoak.plus.com> wrote in message
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> "Michael Bulatovich" <Please@dont.try> wrote in message
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>
I've heard that term too.
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| Michael Bulatovich 2007-01-18, 8:25 pm |
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"Glenn" <pilcheg@kc.rr.com> wrote in message
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> My experience with a plinth is as in a plinth block, the bottom piece of a
> door casing, often ornate and from 6 to 12 inches high.
I've heard that one too. Usually big enough to stop the baseboard.
--
MichaelB
www.michaelbulatovich.ca
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| Steve Landis 2007-01-19, 9:25 am |
| vrj201@googlemail.com wrote:
> When a developer tells you that your property has been contructed "up
> to Plinth" what does that actually mean?
that you building in Asia... http://tinyurl.com/2a7ce3
Steve
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| CWatters 2007-01-19, 1:25 pm |
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"Glenn" <pilcheg@kc.rr.com> wrote in message
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> My experience with a plinth is as in a plinth block, the bottom
> piece of a door casing, often ornate and from 6 to 12 inches high.
> I've even seen/used them on the top of the door side casing but
> usually they are called capitals up there
>
> Anyway I guess what I'm talking about is spelled the same way.
Yes I know what you mean.
In the UK the little block at the bottom of a door architrave seems to be
called a Pilaster...although a Pilaster is technically full height - more
like a fake column.
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| Around here a pilaster is a short thicken of a wall, usually a
basement wall, to make it stronger. It can be either inside or
outside the wall and is usually 8" x 16".with heavy vertical
re-bar.
"CWatters" <colin.watters@turnersNOSPAMoak.plus.com> wrote in
message
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> "Glenn" <pilcheg@kc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:45afcb1c$0$16695$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
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> Yes I know what you mean.
>
> In the UK the little block at the bottom of a door architrave
> seems to be
> called a Pilaster...although a Pilaster is technically full
> height - more
> like a fake column.
>
>
>
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| Michael Bulatovich 2007-01-19, 1:25 pm |
| That's a common modern usage too. The original meaning of the word was a
column 'engaged' in a wall, but often articulated somewhat like associated
columns or 'orders' in the same building, for buildings that had orders....
--
MichaelB
www.michaelbulatovich.ca
"Glenn" <pilcheg@kc.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Around here a pilaster is a short thicken of a wall, usually a basement
> wall, to make it stronger. It can be either inside or outside the wall
> and is usually 8" x 16".with heavy vertical re-bar.
>
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> "CWatters" <colin.watters@turnersNOSPAMoak.plus.com> wrote in message
> news:45b0f8aa$0$8741$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
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| Deputy Dumbya Dawg 2007-01-19, 1:25 pm |
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"Michael Bulatovich" <Please@dont.try> wrote in message
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: "CWatters" <colin.watters@turnersNOSPAMoak.plus.com>
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: > "Michael Bulatovich" <Please@dont.try> wrote in
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: >> Is that a British term?
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The British rockstar , Jeff Beck wrote a song called
"PLYNTH (Water Down the Drain)" This was back in the
old days when he had a little known singer singing it
...... goin down...goin down down down down down. The
singer of course was Rod Stuart.
Now back to construction
peace
dawg
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"Michael Bulatovich" <Please@dont.try> wrote in message
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for buildings that had orders....
> --
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Hmmm, did they obey?
Must be another UK term that I'm not familiar with.
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| Michael Bulatovich 2007-01-19, 1:25 pm |
| "Orders" is a term for the 'styles' of columns from antiquity: Doric, Ionic,
Corinthian, Tuscan, Composite.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_orders
--
MichaelB
www.michaelbulatovich.ca
"Glenn" <pilcheg@kc.rr.com> wrote in message
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> "Michael Bulatovich" <Please@dont.try> wrote in message
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> for buildings that had orders....
> Hmmm, did they obey?
>
> Must be another UK term that I'm not familiar with.
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| Bob Morrison 2007-01-19, 5:25 pm |
| In a previous post Deputy Dumbya Dawg wrote...
> The British rockstar , Jeff Beck wrote a song called
> "PLYNTH (Water Down the Drain)" This was back in the
> old days when he had a little known singer singing it
> ..... goin down...goin down down down down down. The
> singer of course was Rod Stuart.
>
Man, that brought back some strange memories!
Saw Jeff Beck with Rod Stewart at Eagles Auditorium in Seattle. Must have
been late 60's
--
Bob Morrison, PE, SE
R L Morrison Engineering Co
Structural & Civil Engineering
Poulsbo WA
bob at rlmorrisonengr dot com
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| On 17 Jan 2007 07:06:19 -0800, "vrj201@googlemail.com"
<vrj201@googlemail.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>When a developer tells you that your property has been contructed "up
>to Plinth" what does that actually mean?
>Does is actually make any sense?
>
>Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>
>Thanks
>
>VJ
You tell me what *contructed* is and I'll tell you what Plinth is.
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