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Spraying house paint, cheap?
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| SparkyGuy 2007-05-25, 5:25 pm |
| Looking for a cheap way to paint a wood shed without rollers or brushes.
Looking at Harbor Freight's offerings I see this for $20:
<http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ct...temnumber=43760>
But when I checked with my local paint shop where I'm buying the paint and
I'm told that such a setup is good for oil-based paints but not for latex
(which is too "granular", apparently).
I looked at the airless sprayers, but $200-500 for a one-time tool is more
than I want to spend.
Is it true that the above sprayer won't work with latex house paint (a
primer/sealer and a flat finish coat)?
Other ideas?
I have gobs of air pressure and volume available.
The appearance of the finish isn't important; I'm the only one who'll see it.
Thanks,
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| hallerb@aol.com 2007-05-25, 5:25 pm |
| On May 25, 2:49?pm, SparkyGuy <Sparky...@mumcrank.ck> wrote:
> Looking for a cheap way to paint a wood shed without rollers or brushes.
>
> Looking at Harbor Freight's offerings I see this for $20:
>
> <http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ct...temnumber=43760>
>
> But when I checked with my local paint shop where I'm buying the paint and
> I'm told that such a setup is good for oil-based paints but not for latex
> (which is too "granular", apparently).
>
> I looked at the airless sprayers, but $200-500 for a one-time tool is more
> than I want to spend.
>
> Is it true that the above sprayer won't work with latex house paint (a
> primer/sealer and a flat finish coat)?
>
> Other ideas?
>
> I have gobs of air pressure and volume available.
>
> The appearance of the finish isn't important; I'm the only one who'll see it.
>
> Thanks,
my opinion, spraying tends to cause poor adhesion because its just
sprayed on.
rolling and brushing espically washes the new paint into the old
leading to better adhesion and longer job life.
brushing is more work but does better job.............
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| PeterD 2007-05-25, 5:25 pm |
| On Fri, 25 May 2007 11:49:00 -0700, SparkyGuy <SparkyGuy@mumcrank.ck>
wrote:
>Looking for a cheap way to paint a wood shed without rollers or brushes.
>
>Looking at Harbor Freight's offerings I see this for $20:
>
><http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ct...temnumber=43760>
>
>But when I checked with my local paint shop where I'm buying the paint and
>I'm told that such a setup is good for oil-based paints but not for latex
>(which is too "granular", apparently).
>
>I looked at the airless sprayers, but $200-500 for a one-time tool is more
>than I want to spend.
>
>Is it true that the above sprayer won't work with latex house paint (a
>primer/sealer and a flat finish coat)?
>
>Other ideas?
>
>I have gobs of air pressure and volume available.
>
>The appearance of the finish isn't important; I'm the only one who'll see it.
>
>
>Thanks,
One word:
Rental
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| SparkyGuy 2007-05-25, 5:25 pm |
| > One word:
> Rental
One word:
Boonies.
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| HeyBub 2007-05-25, 5:25 pm |
| SparkyGuy wrote:
> Looking for a cheap way to paint a wood shed without rollers or
> brushes.
>
> Looking at Harbor Freight's offerings I see this for $20:
>
> <http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ct...temnumber=43760>
>
> But when I checked with my local paint shop where I'm buying the
> paint and I'm told that such a setup is good for oil-based paints but
> not for latex (which is too "granular", apparently).
>
> I looked at the airless sprayers, but $200-500 for a one-time tool is
> more than I want to spend.
>
> Is it true that the above sprayer won't work with latex house paint (a
> primer/sealer and a flat finish coat)?
>
> Other ideas?
>
> I have gobs of air pressure and volume available.
>
> The appearance of the finish isn't important; I'm the only one who'll
> see it.
The gun is designed for auto paint. I'm guessing the gun will put on the
paint too thinly - that is, you'd have to dilute the paint like crazy, then
apply 27 coats.
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| On Fri, 25 May 2007 11:49:00 -0700, SparkyGuy <SparkyGuy@mumcrank.ck>
wrote:
>Is it true that the above sprayer won't work with latex house paint (a
>primer/sealer and a flat finish coat)?
Latex is sprayed all the time here; but never in a one quart cup.
--
Oren
"Well, it doesn't happen all the time, but when it happens, it happens constantly."
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| SparkyGuy 2007-05-25, 5:25 pm |
| > Latex is sprayed all the time here; but never in a one quart cup.
Using an air-spray (air compressor) setup, not HVLP?
What container or attachments do you use to get more than one quart of paint
to the spray gun?
Thanks,
Sparky
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| Karl S 2007-05-25, 5:25 pm |
| On 25 May 2007 11:56:01 -0700, hallerb@aol.com wrote:
> my opinion, spraying tends to cause poor adhesion because its just
> sprayed on.
>
> rolling and brushing espically washes the new paint into the old
> leading to better adhesion and longer job life.
>
> brushing is more work but does better job.............
You are 100% correct.
Some manufacturers even recommend brushing and/or rolling paint after
spraying in onto the surface. Hardly anybody ever follows this advice.
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| On Fri, 25 May 2007 20:38:49 GMT, SparkyGuy <SparkyGuy@mumcrank.ck>
wrote:
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>Using an air-spray (air compressor) setup, not HVLP?
Electric and airless.
>What container or attachments do you use to get more than one quart of paint
>to the spray gun?
A clean 30 gallon Rubbermaid trash barrel holds plenty of well mixed,
strained paint. Stick a hose in an go to town with the sprayer. d8=
If you really don't care about looks, just toss a gallon on the wall
and brush real fast or get some taggers to fix it up for you.
>Thanks,
>Sparky
--
Oren
"Well, it doesn't happen all the time, but when it happens, it happens constantly."
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| Edwin Pawlowski 2007-05-25, 5:25 pm |
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"SparkyGuy" <SparkyGuy@mumcrank.ck> wrote in message
news:0001HW.C27C7DAC0329F7BDF01826C8@news.sf.sbcglobal.net...
> Looking for a cheap way to paint a wood shed without rollers or brushes.
>
> Looking at Harbor Freight's offerings I see this for $20:
>
> <http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ct...temnumber=43760>
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> But when I checked with my local paint shop where I'm buying the paint and
> I'm told that such a setup is good for oil-based paints but not for latex
> (which is too "granular", apparently).
That type of gun requires very thin paint. Good for lacquer and such. It
won't work with latex unless you thin it down so much that it will take 25
or more coats to cover. You can brush or roll it in a fraction of the time.
Do NOT, let me repeat, do NOT get a Wagner spray gun. Worst piece of crap
ever invented.
By the time you decide what to do, you could have had one coat rolled on
already.
--
Ed
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/
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| SparkyGuy 2007-05-25, 5:25 pm |
| > By the time you decide what to do, you could have had one coat rolled on
> already.
Yeah, good advice.
Thanks to all,
Sparky
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| PeterD 2007-05-25, 8:25 pm |
| On Fri, 25 May 2007 12:29:02 -0700, SparkyGuy <SparkyGuy@mumcrank.ck>
wrote:
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>One word:
>Boonies.
Two words:
Harbor Frieght
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| PeterD 2007-05-25, 8:25 pm |
| On Fri, 25 May 2007 20:38:49 GMT, SparkyGuy <SparkyGuy@mumcrank.ck>
wrote:
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>Using an air-spray (air compressor) setup, not HVLP?
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>What container or attachments do you use to get more than one quart of paint
>to the spray gun?
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>Thanks,
>Sparky
Binks gun with a one gallon pressure feed... <g> Amazing how fast you
can spray a gallon of paint. I've never had problems spraying latex
either, though as others mention spray is not the best application
method, and may be problematic in the future.
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| PeterD 2007-05-25, 8:25 pm |
| On Fri, 25 May 2007 22:04:57 GMT, SparkyGuy <SparkyGuy@mumcrank.ck>
wrote:
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>My original question was about pressure spray guns and latex. I'm looking for
>a way to use the sprayer I pointed out
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><http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ct...temnumber=43760>
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>with latex paints.
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>Sparky
IMHO, that spray gun will probably work OK. You'll need a reasonable
sized compressor to make it work. I'd guess it really uses more than 6
CFM...
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| NuWaveDave 2007-05-25, 8:25 pm |
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"SparkyGuy" <SparkyGuy@mumcrank.ck> wrote in message
news:0001HW.C27CAB980005FD76F01826C8@news.sf.sbcglobal.net...
>
> My original question was about pressure spray guns and latex. I'm looking
> for
> a way to use the sprayer I pointed out
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> <http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ct...temnumber=43760>
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> with latex paints.
I believe the consensus is (and I would agree) that the gun you're
looking at is not designed nor intended to use with latex paint. I'd buy a
Wagner from Home Depot before I tried running latex through your rig.
Better, rent an airless. It'll probably take you longer to go get it
clean it up and return it than it will to paint the shed.
--
NuWave Dave in Houston
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| John Gilmer 2007-05-26, 9:25 am |
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> One word:
> Expensive
Harbor Freight has a "High Volume/Low Pressure" spray "kit" that included
the blower. It's not all that different from the "spray" gadgets that used
to come with some vacuum cleaners.
With latex, you have to use the largest nozzle and add the stuff that make
the paint worker with sprayers and, maybe, thin the paint a little to boot.
It's a little faster than brushing but you have to keep cleaning off the
spray tip from dried paint. Clean up isn't too bad.
I find it more useful as a "sprayer" than as a paint set. But it was only
about $70.
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| "SparkyGuy" <SparkyGuy@mumcrank.ck> wrote in message
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> Looking for a cheap way to paint a wood shed without rollers or brushes.
>
Going back to the original post - I'll pass on some history related by my
grandfather.
He worked for Penn-Central railroad for most of his life, and for a good
portion of it was in charge of a Cleveland area freight car maintainance
center in. Freight cars are subjected to very harse conditions, and were
painted with a very high solids, linseed oil based paint. Normally, each
car was scheduled for repaint every three years, with an inspection at two.
They were manually scrubbed with a stiff brush and aggressive detergent,
then scraped prior to painting. Painting was done by hand, with natural
bristle brushes. According to him, brushing is the only way to ensure good
adhesion - the bristle action loosens any remaining oxidation and creates a
solid bond of the new paint with the old. ID numbers for logisitics were
hand stencilled on each car, using a stiff brush and hand-cut stencils.
At one point in the late 60's, a "college hotshot" (grandpa's term) manager
was hired, who determined that spraying the cars would save lots of time and
money. Those in the know argued against, but were over-ruled, labelled as
being resistant to change.
All the cars painted that summer were back on the siding by Thanksgiving,
with paint peeling and missing ID numbers, and causing a major overtime and
making a mess out of the central tracking system. Guess what happened to
the "hotshot".....
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| PeterD 2007-05-26, 9:25 am |
| On Sat, 26 May 2007 04:43:59 GMT, SparkyGuy <SparkyGuy@mumcrank.ck>
wrote:
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>One word:
>Expensive
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><http://search.harborfreight.com/cpi...d=airless&Submi
>t=Go>
No words:
<bg>
More words:
Yes, that I understand. I still think that rental is the best option,
but if you are that far from a rental place, then I guess somewhere
you must decide which is most cost effective.
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