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bigjcw1023@gmail.com

2008-01-05, 3:25 am

My thermostat runs my furnace about once every hour when it is 20
degrees and I am thinking about adjusting the swing on the thermostat
to a lower number so that the system keeps a more consistent temp. Is
this going to cost me more in gas. The swing will allow the system
(set at 62 for heat) to come on at 61 and run it up to 63. So the
swing is 3 degrees. I figure I might go to 2 or one to cycle the
system more and be more consistent temp. Any thoughts?
bigjcw1023@gmail.com

2008-01-05, 3:25 am

On Jan 5, 12:06 am, bigjcw1...@gmail.com wrote:
> My thermostat runs my furnace about once every hour when it is 20
> degrees and I am thinking about adjusting the swing on the thermostat
> to a lower number so that the system keeps a more consistent temp. Is
> this going to cost me more in gas. The swing will allow the system
> (set at 62 for heat) to come on at 61 and run it up to 63. So the
> swing is 3 degrees. I figure I might go to 2 or one to cycle the
> system more and be more consistent temp. Any thoughts?


correction, the current swing is 0
James Sweet

2008-01-05, 3:25 am


<bigjcw1023@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> My thermostat runs my furnace about once every hour when it is 20
> degrees and I am thinking about adjusting the swing on the thermostat
> to a lower number so that the system keeps a more consistent temp. Is
> this going to cost me more in gas. The swing will allow the system
> (set at 62 for heat) to come on at 61 and run it up to 63. So the
> swing is 3 degrees. I figure I might go to 2 or one to cycle the
> system more and be more consistent temp. Any thoughts?



Give it a try and see what happens. It sounds like your furnace is oversized
though, ideally on the coldest days you ever see, it should run nearly
constantly to maintain the desired temperature, though 61F is much colder
than usual, I would size it to maintain 70 so you have a bit of margin.


ransley

2008-01-05, 1:25 pm

On Jan 5, 2:19=A0am, "James Sweet" <jamessw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> <bigjcw1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> though, ideally on the coldest days you ever see, it should run nearly
> constantly to maintain the desired temperature, though 61F is much colder
> than usual, I would size it to maintain 70 so you have a bit of margin.


It might take 5 minutes for the furnace to get to full efficency,
running once per hour is not much 61f and a 3f swing for me is
uncomfortable, 10 minute running cycles are short but I dought you
will notice a difference narrowing the cycle
bigjcw1023@gmail.com

2008-01-05, 1:25 pm

On Jan 5, 11:40 am, ransley <Mark_Rans...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jan 5, 2:19 am, "James Sweet" <jamessw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> It might take 5 minutes for the furnace to get to full efficency,
> running once per hour is not much 61f and a 3f swing for me is
> uncomfortable, 10 minute running cycles are short but I dought you
> will notice a difference narrowing the cycle


the cycle runs about 12 mins. and yes the furnace is too large by
about 30,000 btu. Not installed when I was living here. Wil there be
a diff in usage of gas though. I can go to lower setting on this
thermostat, even though there is 0 swing right now. When I checked it
said 0 swing at 63. Went to -1 and it dropped to 62. So I assume
that will keep it right on the mark of 62? Obviously dont want to go
lower than the set temp though.
Glenn

2008-01-05, 1:25 pm

I like even heat and cooling. I have an up to date
thermostat that can be set to 0.2 of a degree. The
heat comes on often that way but I waste not one BTU of
heat because I run the fan 24/7. Having it set that
way with auto fan will waste some heat because the
plenum has to pre-heat before the blower comes on. Not
a lot of waste but some.


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ransley

2008-01-05, 1:25 pm

On Jan 5, 11:24=A0am, bigjcw1...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 5, 11:40 am, ransley <Mark_Rans...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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What I did was actualy cut gas to the furnace to lower btu input, I
just turned down on the supply valve as it was running so I could see
the flame and had a thermometer inserted just above the heat
exchanger, I just cut it maybe 10-15f it evened heat and lowered
output. If you have a dual stage setup be sure its running on low
stage.
hr(bob) hofmann@att.net

2008-01-05, 8:25 pm

On Jan 5, 12:13=A0pm, ransley <Mark_Rans...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jan 5, 11:24=A0am, bigjcw1...@gmail.com wrote:
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> What I did was actualy cut gas to the furnace to lower btu input, I
> just turned down on the supply valve as it was running so I could see
> the flame and had a thermometer inserted just above the heat
> exchanger, I just cut it maybe 10-15f it evened heat and lowered
> output. If you have a dual stage setup be sure its running on low
> stage.- Hide quoted text -
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I measured the diameter of the gas nozzle in my furnace, it agreed
with the BTU rating, then I filled in the nozzle and redrilled it out
at a smaller diameter - about 80% of the original gas flow. So now I
have a smaller flame and the furnace runs longer, but the gas
consumption is definitely down based on BTU's burned per degree days.
I also run my furnace blower continually when the temps are below
about 20F to keep the various parts of my 4-level split-level home
more evenly heated. I do pay some in electricity for comfort, but
that's what we have furnaces and electricity for (to dangle a
preposition).
CJT

2008-01-05, 8:25 pm

Glenn wrote:

> I like even heat and cooling. I have an up to date thermostat that can
> be set to 0.2 of a degree. The heat comes on often that way but I waste
> not one BTU of heat because I run the fan 24/7. Having it set that way
> with auto fan will waste some heat because the plenum has to pre-heat
> before the blower comes on. Not a lot of waste but some.


Running the fan 24/7 costs money, too.

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> "James Sweet" <jamessweet@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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CJT

2008-01-05, 8:25 pm

ransley wrote:

> On Jan 5, 2:19 am, "James Sweet" <jamessw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> It might take 5 minutes for the furnace to get to full efficency,
> running once per hour is not much 61f and a 3f swing for me is
> uncomfortable,


It must be torture for you to leave the house. What are you, the
princess who could feel the pea through 20 mattresses?

10 minute running cycles are short but I dought you
> will notice a difference narrowing the cycle



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CJT

2008-01-05, 8:25 pm

ransley wrote:

> On Jan 5, 11:24 am, bigjcw1...@gmail.com wrote:
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> What I did was actualy cut gas to the furnace to lower btu input, I
> just turned down on the supply valve as it was running so I could see
> the flame and had a thermometer inserted just above the heat
> exchanger, I just cut it maybe 10-15f it evened heat and lowered
> output. If you have a dual stage setup be sure its running on low
> stage.


I hope you checked the flue temperatures before and after, and have
a good CO monitor.

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Glenn

2008-01-06, 1:25 pm


"CJT" <abujlehc@prodigy.net> wrote in message
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> Glenn wrote:
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> Running the fan 24/7 costs money, too.


Most electricians say the difference in the starting
windings usage and running 24/7 about balance out so
why not be comfy.




Ralph Mowery

2008-01-06, 5:25 pm


"Glenn" <pilcheg@kc.rr.com> wrote in message
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>I like even heat and cooling. I have an up to date thermostat that can be
>set to 0.2 of a degree. The heat comes on often that way but I waste not
>one BTU of heat because I run the fan 24/7. Having it set that way with
>auto fan will waste some heat because the plenum has to pre-heat before the
>blower comes on. Not a lot of waste but some.
>


What you need is the newer varitable speed fans. They come on when the heat
comes on and run at a slow speed. As you heat up, the fan speeds up.


CJT

2008-01-06, 9:25 pm

Glenn wrote:

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> "CJT" <abujlehc@prodigy.net> wrote in message
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> Most electricians say the difference in the starting windings usage and
> running 24/7 about balance out so why not be comfy.
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I doubt "most electricians" say that, and if they do, they're wrong.

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