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Wonders Of The World: Great Wall Of Israel

Honest Aryan

2005-09-13, 2:20 pm

My fellow racists (Whites only),
I wonder how many US taxpayers realise that
Israel's wall is now the most expensive man-made
structure visible from space.

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CyberDroog

2005-09-13, 2:20 pm

On 7 Sep 2005 01:13:21 -0700, "Honest Aryan" <ha@centralpets.com> wrote:

>My fellow racists (Whites only),
> I wonder how many US taxpayers realise that
>Israel's wall is now the most expensive man-made
>structure visible from space.

Not by a long shot. Most of the U.S. highway system is visible from orbit.

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Honest Aryan

2005-09-13, 2:20 pm

CyberDroog wrote:

> Not by a long shot. Most of the U.S. highway system is visible from orbit.

Hmmmm but have you factored in the
cost of the Iraq war?

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Ivan Marsh

2005-09-13, 2:20 pm

On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 07:25:08 -0700, Honest Aryan wrote:

> CyberDroog wrote:
>
>
> Hmmmm but have you factored in the cost of the Iraq war?

Uh... you do realize Israel isn't in Iraq?

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GlennT

2005-09-13, 2:20 pm

Ivan Marsh wrote:

> On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 07:25:08 -0700, Honest Aryan wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Uh... you do realize Israel isn't in Iraq?
>
You mean the countries aren't alphabetically aligned? There goes
that theory...

Honest Aryan

2005-09-13, 2:20 pm

Ivan Marsh wrote:

> Uh... you do realize Israel isn't in Iraq?

Have to say ever more folks are noticing
too that "America's greatest ally" has
contributed zilch troops to its proxy war.
Unfortunately, they even have a word that
prevents them from being shamed into doing
the "decent thing" - chutzpah.
Maybe this will help with US recruitment:

http://www.resist.com/CARTOON%20GAL...ews_image08.jpg

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Ivan Marsh

2005-09-13, 2:20 pm

On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 08:58:20 -0700, Honest Aryan wrote:

> Ivan Marsh wrote:
>
>
> Have to say ever more folks are noticing
> too that "America's greatest ally" has
> contributed zilch troops to its proxy war.
> Unfortunately, they even have a word that
> prevents them from being shamed into doing
> the "decent thing" - chutzpah.

Like I said: You do realize Israel isn't in Iraq? Right?

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Unknown

2005-09-13, 2:20 pm

"Honest Aryan" <ha@centralpets.com> wrote in news:1126195100.375384.184410
@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:

> Have to say ever more folks are noticing
> too that "America's greatest ally" has
> contributed zilch troops to its proxy war.
> Unfortunately, they even have a word that
> prevents them from being shamed into doing
> the "decent thing" - chutzpah.

Politically speaking, a deployment of troops by Israel to Iraq to support
the U.S. would do more harm than good. It would immediately be seized upon
by anti-Israeli governments and militants everywhere as evidence of a joint
U.S.-Israeli plan to destroy Islam. Jews with guns in Iraq? If you really
want to see a bloodbath in the M.E., that's the way to achieve it. It would
be very bad decision. Surely you can understand that.

Honest Aryan

2005-09-13, 2:20 pm

Ivan Marsh wrote:

> Like I said: You do realize Israel isn't in Iraq? Right?

That's the great thing about proxy wars!
- provided you're not the one suckered into
fighting them.

http://polemics.us/archives/001594.php

"I was speaking the other day with Scott Pelley of CBS News's
'60 Minutes' about the mood in Iraq. He had just returned from
filming a piece there and he told me something disturbing.
Scott had gone around and asked Iraqis on the streets what
they called American troops - wondering if they had nicknames
for us in the way we used to call the Nazis 'Krauts' or the
Vietcong 'Charlie'. And what did he find? 'Many Iraqis have
so much distrust for U.S. forces we found they've come up
with a nickname for our troops,' Scott said. 'They call
American soldiers 'The Jews,' as in, 'Don't go down that
street, the Jews set up a roadblock.'" ~ Thomas L. Friedman

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Ivan Marsh

2005-09-13, 2:20 pm

On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 12:49:54 -0700, Honest Aryan wrote:

> Ivan Marsh wrote:
>
>
> That's the great thing about proxy wars!

What ever that is.

Please explain how race or Israel has anything to do with a war fought for
profiteering?

Are you suggesting Dick Cheney is a Jew?

You're using the racism of one group to "prove" racism in another group.

By your logic calling blacks niggers makes the blacks racists.

Real smart.

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Honest Aryan

2005-09-13, 2:20 pm

Ivan Marsh wrote:

> Please explain how race or Israel has anything to do with a war fought for
> profiteering?

"Of course there were no weapons of mass destruction.
Israel's intelligence, Mossad, knows what's going on
in Iraq. It is the best. It has to know; Israel's
survival depends on knowing. Israel long since would
have taken us to the weapons of mass destruction if
there were any, or if they had been removed. With
Iraq no threat, why invade a sovereign country? The
answer: President Bush's policy to secure Israel."

"Why we're in Iraq
By ERNEST F. HOLLINGS (senior senator from South Carolina)

Guest columnist

With 760 dead(*) in Iraq and more than 3,000
maimed for life, folks continue to argue over
why we are in Iraq - and how to get out.

Now everyone knows what was not the cause
of this war. Even President Bush acknowledges
that Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with
9/11. Listing the 45 countries where al Qaeda
was operating on Sept. 11 (70 cells in the
United States), the State Department did not
list Iraq.

Richard Clarke, in Against All Enemies, tells
how the United States had not received any threat
of terrorism for 10 years from Saddam at the time
of our invasion. On page 231, John McLaughlin of
the CIA verifies this to Paul Wolfowitz. In 1993
President Clinton responded to Saddam's attempt
on the life of President George Herbert Walker
Bush by putting a missile down Saddam's intelligence
headquarters in Baghdad. Not a big kill, but Saddam
got the message: Monkey around with the United States
and a missile lands on his head.

Of course there were no weapons of mass destruction.
Israel' intelligence, Mossad, knows what's going on
in Iraq. It is the best. It has to know; Israel's
survival depends on knowing. Israel long since would
have taken us to the weapons of mass destruction if
there were any, or if they had been removed. With
Iraq no threat, why invade a sovereign country? The
answer: President Bush's policy to secure Israel.

Led by Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz and Charles
Krauthammer, for years there has been a domino school
of thought that the way to guarantee Israel's security
is to spread democracy in the area. Wolfowitz wrote: 'The
United States may not be able to lead countries through
the door of democracy, but where that door is locked shut
by a totalitarian deadbolt, American power may be the only
way to open it up.' And on another occasion: Iraq as 'the
first Arab democracy... would cast a very large shadow,
starting with Syria and Iran but across the whole Arab
world.'

Three weeks before invasion President Bush stated: 'A
new regime in Iraq would serve as a dramatic and inspiring
example for freedom for other nations in the region.'

Every president since 1947 has made a futile attempt to
help Israel negotiate peace. But no leadership has surfaced
among the Palestinians that can make a binding agreement.
President Bush realized his chances at negotiation were no
better. He came to office imbued with one thought - re-election.
Bush felt tax cuts would hold his crowd together and spreading
democracy in the Mideast to secure Israel would take the Jewish
vote from the Democrats.

You don't come to town and announce your Israel policy is
to invade Iraq. But George W. Bush, as stated by former
Secretary Paul O’Neill and others, started laying the
groundwork to invade Iraq days after inauguration. And,
without any Iraq connection to 9/11, within weeks he had
the Pentagon outlining a plan to invade Iraq. He was
determined.

President Bush thought taking Iraq would be easy. Wolfowitz
said it would take only seven days. Cheney believed we would
be greeted as liberators. But Cheney's man, Ahmed Chalabi,
made a mess of the de-Baathification of Iraq by dismissing
Republican Guard leadership and Sunni leaders, who soon joined
with the insurgents.

Worst of all, we tried to secure Iraq with too few troops. In
1966 in South Vietnam with a population of 16.5 million, Gen.
William C. Westmoreland with 535,000 U.S. troops was still
asking for more. In Iraq with a population of 24.6 million,
Gen. John Abizaid with only 135,000 troops can barely secure
the troops, much less the country. If the troops are there to
fight, they are too few. If there to die, they are too many.

To secure Iraq we need more troops - at least 100,000 more.
The only way to get the United Nations back in Iraq is to make
the country secure. Once back, the French, Germans and others
will join with the United Nations to take over.

With President Bush's domino policy in the Mideast gone awry,
he keeps shouting 'War on Terror.' Terrorism is a method, not
a war. We don't call the Crimean War, with the Charge of the
Light Brigade, the Cavalry War. Or World War II the
Blitzkrieg War. There is terrorism in Ireland against the Brits.
There is terrorism in India and in Pakistan. In the Mideast,
terrorism is a separate problem to be defeated by diplomacy
and negotiation, not militarily. Here, might does not make right
- right makes might. Acting militarily, we have created more
terrorism than we have eliminated."

(*) as of May, 2004

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Honest Aryan

2005-09-13, 2:20 pm

Unknown wrote:

> Politically speaking, a deployment of troops by Israel to Iraq to support
> the U.S. would do more harm than good. It would immediately be seized upon
> by anti-Israeli governments and militants everywhere as evidence of a joint
> U.S.-Israeli plan to destroy Islam. Jews with guns in Iraq? If you really
> want to see a bloodbath in the M.E., that's the way to achieve it. It would
> be very bad decision. Surely you can understand that.

Iraq *IS* a bloodbath.
America's "Israel first" policy
has seen to that.
All the suicide bombers unable
to get past Israel's wall now head
for Iraq, along with others from
across the 1-billion-strong Muslim
world.

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Honest Aryan

2005-09-13, 2:20 pm

GlennT wrote:

> You mean the countries aren't alphabetically aligned? There goes
> that theory...

Well, there's a real possibility the
draft-dodging born-again-alcoholic IQ-85
idiot President George Bush Jr. got IraQ
and IraN mixed-up.
After all, this is the "man" who survived
an assassination attempt by a pretzel.

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GlennT

2005-09-13, 2:20 pm

Honest Aryan wrote:

> GlennT wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Well, there's a real possibility the
> draft-dodging born-again-alcoholic IQ-85
> idiot President George Bush Jr. got IraQ
> and IraN mixed-up.
> After all, this is the "man" who survived
> an assassination attempt by a pretzel.
>
LOL!!! Now that was funny. Did you see his photo opportunity in
Mississippi where he kept insisting these two girls 'get along'
to the Red Cross centre. Till one of his aides told him it didn't
exist anymore. If you can't cry then laugh.

Honest Aryan

2005-09-13, 2:20 pm

GlennT wrote:

> LOL!!! Now that was funny. Did you see his photo opportunity in
> Mississippi where he kept insisting these two girls 'get along'
> to the Red Cross centre. Till one of his aides told him it didn't
> exist anymore. If you can't cry then laugh.

I see he's back in La, AGAIN!!!
How many more times is he gonna
be closing that particular stable door?
Trouble is, America can't start
clearing-up after George Bush Jr.
for another 3 *YEARS*.
The only possible good I can see
coming out of his disastrous misrule
is that America finally gets his head
out of Israel's XXX and let's "god" take
care of his Master Religion, *NOT* US
taxpayers and its dead/maimed soldiery.
*FUCK* Israel.
And "god", in all H*s Glory.

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GlennT

2005-09-13, 2:20 pm

Honest Aryan wrote:

> GlennT wrote:
>
>
>
>
> I see he's back in La, AGAIN!!!
> How many more times is he gonna
> be closing that particular stable door?
> Trouble is, America can't start
> clearing-up after George Bush Jr.
> for another 3 *YEARS*.

I am sure there are ways. Isn't USA the land of opportunity?
> The only possible good I can see
> coming out of his disastrous misrule
> is that America finally gets his head
> out of Israel's XXX and let's "god" take
> care of his Master Religion, *NOT* US
> taxpayers and its dead/maimed soldiery.
> *FUCK* Israel.

What... the whole population? That's a lot of condoms.

Honest Aryan

2005-09-13, 2:20 pm

GlennT wrote:

> What... the whole population? That's a lot of condoms.

America was pretty well screwed by Israel
before Iraq: never-to-be-repaid "loans", AIPAC,
educational bursaries, Cynthia McKinney, Earl
Hilliard...
The one good thing is, Jewish power has peaked.
How do I know? because you're reading about it.
Praise the L*rd and pass the information.

"Not only in American business and cultural life and in
Israel's military triumphs have the Jews in this
century struck back against their age-old enemies. The
Bolshevik Revolution and some of its aftermath
represented, from one perspective, Jewish revenge.

As the Tsarist government in the late-nineteenth
century found itself increasingly in confrontation
with the Empire's Jewish population, there was a
strong leftist and revolutionary drift among the
younger Jewish generations. Most became members of the
Bund, a democratic, peaceful, labor union
organization. But some became bomb-throwing anarchists
and revolutionary Communists. In the Bolshevik
government that was in control of most of Russia by
1920, three out of the six members of the Politburo
executive were Jews, not counting Lenin himself whose
father had a Jewish grandparent.

The founders of the Soviet secret police (later KGB),
headquartered in Lubyanka prison in Moscow, were
mostly Jews. Jews also took leadership roles, down
into the early 1950s, in the Communist parties of
Germany, Hungary, Poland, Czechoslovakia, and Rumania.
In the struggle for succession to Lenin in the 1920s,
leading to the defeat and exile of the Jewish Trotsky
Bronstein, most of the high-level Soviet Jews made the
mistake of supporting Stalin, an Asiatic anti-Semite
who in the purge trials in the mid-1930s eventually
eliminated these Jewish `Old Bolsheviks'. But even to
some degree after the Great Purge, Jews were still
prevalent in powerful Soviet government positions and
many of Stalin's cohorts in the 1940s had Jewish wives.
Here is a cool appraisal of Stalin's Jews, published in
1994 by the Russian writer Arkady Vaksberg.

`During the heyday of the Cold War, American Jewish
publicists spent a lot of time denying that - as 1930s
anti-Semites claimed - Jews played a disproportionately
important role in Soviet and world Communism. The
truth is until the early 1950s Jews did play such
a role, and there is nothing to be ashamed of. In
time, Jews will learn to take pride in the record of
the Jewish Communists in the Soviet Union and
elsewhere. It was a species of striking back.'"

(chapter entitled `Stalin's Jews', p. 364 of "The Jewish
Experience", Castle Books, 1996, by Jewish historian Norman
F. Cantor, professor of history at New York University)

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