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Terry D

2006-07-11, 1:25 pm

I would be grateful for identification of this shrub in my front garden.
The height is about 2 metres and it flowers in June. I've been told it's a
tobacco plant (nicotina?) but I can't identify it from the internet. Thanks
in advance.

Terry D.

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...or/100_0802.jpg

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...or/100_0814.jpg


Eur Ing John Rye

2006-07-11, 5:25 pm

Hello Terry

In article <SwRsg.34073$OT.16396@newsfe6-win.ntli.net>,
Terry D <terry.dutson-NOSPAM@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> I would be grateful for identification of this shrub in my front garden.
> The height is about 2 metres and it flowers in June. I've been told it's a
> tobacco plant (nicotina?) but I can't identify it from the internet. Thanks
> in advance.


> Terry D.


> http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...or/100_0802.jpg


> http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...or/100_0814.jpg


I reckon it is a Philadelphus (Common Name Mock Orange)

John

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Eur Ing John Rye

2006-07-17, 5:25 pm

Hello Terry

In article <SIOug.38684$ST2.17788@newsfe5-win.ntli.net>,
Terry D <terry.dutson-NOSPAM@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> Eur Ing John Rye wrote:
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> Thanks for the info John. I think it is a Mock Orange but it has no
> fragrance. Could it be a variety known as English Dogwood?


Both Cornus & Philadelphia have 4 petalled flowers, so I pass.

Most Cornus are grown for the colour of the young stems rather than their
flowers, but on the other hand most Philadelphias have quite a strong
perfume.

Not very satisfactory, but I suggest you wait until it is in flower next
year, and take a bit to a good Garden Centre for Comparison.

Another possibility would be to try your local Radio station if they run a
gardening program.

John

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MadCow

2006-07-20, 8:25 pm

In message <4e48033f87jrye@ukonline.co.uk>, Eur Ing John Rye
<jrye@ukonline.co.uk> writes

Yes. It's unmistakeably a Philadelphus.[color=darkred]
>
>


Cornus flowers don't look like that (C. sanguinea has inconspicuous
flowers anyway) and Cornus leaves are very distinctive. If you hunt up
pictures of both genera on the web and compare the leaves you'll have no
doubt that the shrub in the picture's a Philadelphus.

>
>Most Cornus are grown for the colour of the young stems rather than their
>flowers, but on the other hand most Philadelphias have quite a strong
>perfume.


Not all Philadelphus have the rich scent that makes them worth while.
The variety 'Beauclerk' is utterly worthless in this respect.

>
>Not very satisfactory, but I suggest you wait until it is in flower next
>year, and take a bit to a good Garden Centre for Comparison.
>


Not very satisfactory? Hah!
If yours isn't scented you've been hornswoggled, especially if it's an
established shrub that you didn't pay for but can't easily remove. The
scent of a mock orange should drift indoors on the breeze.

You can either put up with it or remove it and plant something more
rewarding. Don't try to plant another Philadelphus in the same place
because the soil will be tired of them; you could try a
winter-flowering honeysuckle there instead.

Moral: Philadelphus are like pineapples, never buy one if you can't
smell it before you see it.

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