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| nospam@nospam.org 2005-10-18, 8:21 am |
| Hello,
What is so bad about Ida Red?
I read in the fruit expert that "it has two excellent qualities;
unfortunately taste is not one of them" and some of the old posts in
here seem to criticise it too. Is it bland tasting or does it taste
horrible? One web site said it was "an acquired taste"; does this mean
that it is sour? It's a shame, I heard it keeps well.
Thanks.
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| Jaques d'Alltrades 2005-10-18, 9:21 am |
| The message <vdj9l1tck6p61r2ullrig7pcrcs62gn257@4ax.com>
from nospam@nospam.org contains these words:
> What is so bad about Ida Red?
And, what is ida red?
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| Tim C. 2005-10-18, 9:21 am |
| On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 12:23:57 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
> The message <vdj9l1tck6p61r2ullrig7pcrcs62gn257@4ax.com>
> from nospam@nospam.org contains these words:
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> And, what is ida red?
It's an apple.
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Tim C.
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| Cereus-validus....... 2005-10-18, 10:21 am |
| Isn't that the apple that Snow White took a bite out of?
"Tim C." <tim.challenger@aon.at> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 12:23:57 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
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> It's an apple.
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> Tim C.
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| Jaques d'Alltrades 2005-10-18, 11:21 am |
| The message <1129635586.510ef5f25343d319014a19aab243c553@teranews>
from "Tim C." <tim.challenger@aon.at> contains these words:
> On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 12:23:57 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
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> It's an apple.
Ida nidea it might have been.
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Rusty
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| Tim C. 2005-10-18, 11:21 am |
| On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 13:56:51 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
> The message <1129635586.510ef5f25343d319014a19aab243c553@teranews>
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> Ida nidea it might have been.
duh!
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Tim C.
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| Tim C. 2005-10-18, 11:21 am |
| On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:27:45 GMT, nospam@nospam.org wrote:
> Hello,
>
> What is so bad about Ida Red?
>
> I read in the fruit expert that "it has two excellent qualities;
> unfortunately taste is not one of them" and some of the old posts in
> here seem to criticise it too. Is it bland tasting or does it taste
> horrible? One web site said it was "an acquired taste"; does this mean
> that it is sour? It's a shame, I heard it keeps well.
>
> Thanks.
what I can find ...
"Apple Idared Pollination Group 2 A dual purpose apple. Important
commercially due to its late keeping properties, fairly hardy, moderately
vigorous, produces spurs freely. The fruits are pale yellowish-green, three
quarters flushed with crimson-red. Flesh is very white or white tinged
green, firm, fine textured, juicy and crisp, with a rather tough skin."
http://www.gardenaction.co.uk/fruit...pple_idared.htm
http://www.nyapplecountry.com/idared.htm
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Tim C.
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| nospam@nospam.org 2005-10-18, 12:21 pm |
| On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:13:31 +0200, "Tim C." <tim.challenger@aon.at>
wrote:
>what I can find ...
Thanks. Your link said the flavour was "Middle (not acid nor sweet)",
although the other one said "sweetly tart" whatever that means! So why
is it everyone says it tastes horrible, or have I misinterpreted that?
Is it that the taste is middle of the road and therefore nothing
special over any other variety?
Thanks again.
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| nospam@nospam.org 2005-10-18, 1:21 pm |
| On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 12:23:57 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades
<rusty.hinge@foobar.zetnet.co.ok> wrote:
>And, what is ida red?
Sorry, I lurk here and you all seem to know so much more than me, so I
thought you'd all know!
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| Jaques d'Alltrades 2005-10-18, 3:21 pm |
| The message <d05al1h6m48fu73ki42gnoitish7j1nr53@4ax.com>
from nospam@nospam.org contains these words:
> On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 12:23:57 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades
> <rusty.hinge@foobar.zetnet.co.ok> wrote:
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> Sorry, I lurk here and you all seem to know so much more than me, so I
> thought you'd all know!
We all have our special interests, but apples - there are *THOUSANDS* of
varieties...
Besides, some of us aren't expert in anything, just interested. (My area
is not strictly gardens at all, but fungi, and in the garden I potter.)
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Rusty
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| Janet Galpin 2005-10-18, 9:21 pm |
| The message <724al1lpt0f95o0hu0u7evppnqvjktvld8@4ax.com>
from nospam@nospam.org contains these words:
> On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:13:31 +0200, "Tim C." <tim.challenger@aon.at>
> wrote:
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> Thanks. Your link said the flavour was "Middle (not acid nor sweet)",
> although the other one said "sweetly tart" whatever that means! So why
> is it everyone says it tastes horrible, or have I misinterpreted that?
> Is it that the taste is middle of the road and therefore nothing
> special over any other variety?
> Thanks again.
I posted a while ago about the fact that I had stored an Idared up to
late September, so it does indeed store very well. I've seen it quoted
as the longest storg apple and that seems quite likely.
When I ate this apple whch had been stored for eleven months it was
indeed pretty tasteless. However, it had been stored for a very long
time so it was entitled to lose some flavour. I don't know what it's
like eaten earlier in the year but if you want to bridge the gap between
May and July when other apples have withered away, it's a good
proposition - but only just about edible at that time, in my opinion.
Janet G
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| Tim C. 2005-10-19, 5:21 am |
| On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 18:28:46 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
> The message <d05al1h6m48fu73ki42gnoitish7j1nr53@4ax.com>
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> We all have our special interests, but apples - there are *THOUSANDS* of
> varieties...
They're one of the more popular - or at least common-in-the-supermarket
varieties over here in Austria. I know I've had them, but I can't for the
life of me remember what they are like.
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Tim C.
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| nospam@nospam.org 2005-10-20, 7:21 pm |
| On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 19:08:44 +0100, Janet Galpin
<decoy.farm@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>I posted a while ago about the fact that I had stored an Idared up to
>late September, so it does indeed store very well. I've seen it quoted
>as the longest storg apple and that seems quite likely.
Yes, I think I remember reading that post.
>I don't know what it's
>like eaten earlier in the year but if you want to bridge the gap between
>May and July when other apples have withered away, it's a good
>proposition - but only just about edible at that time, in my opinion.
The long storage is what has attracted me to it, but again I am
confused, you say it's just about edible: are you referring to it
being tasteless again? If it's just about edible is it worth growing?
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| In article <r34gl1lmvejftvtiqk2p5fiqn46ffvn4hm@4ax.com>,
nospam@nospam.org writes
>On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 19:08:44 +0100, Janet Galpin
><decoy.farm@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
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>Yes, I think I remember reading that post.
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>The long storage is what has attracted me to it, but again I am
>confused, you say it's just about edible: are you referring to it
>being tasteless again? If it's just about edible is it worth growing?
Scotts catalogue says 'of good quality, though sometimes a little hard'
It describes it as 'storing well', but they have another 39 dessert
apples in the same category 'keeping till march and later'. Brownlees
Russet is a dry-fleshed good tasting russet that I've never kept beyond
March, simply because we've eaten the entire stock before then, so I
can't guarantee it would keep to June/July.
Anyone know how well Suntan and Tydeman's Late Orange keep? - they're
both Cox flavour.
Cockles Pippin is also described as storing well and of 'first class
flavour' Also May Queen 'storing well, hard and crisp in May, Quite
remarkable for its small stature and heavy crops'.
Monarch (Dec-May) is a cooker but 'most acceptable as a dessert fruit
from December onwards.'
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"
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| Janet Galpin 2005-10-21, 4:21 pm |
| The message <r34gl1lmvejftvtiqk2p5fiqn46ffvn4hm@4ax.com>
from nospam@nospam.org contains these words:
> On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 19:08:44 +0100, Janet Galpin
> <decoy.farm@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
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> Yes, I think I remember reading that post.
It was in a book on Apples that I read it originally
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> The long storage is what has attracted me to it, but again I am
> confused, you say it's just about edible: are you referring to it
> being tasteless again? If it's just about edible is it worth growing?
I meant that it was pretty tasteless. However, I'm attracted to the idea
of trying to have apples for as much of the year as possible, so a
rather bland Idared might be better than no apple at all at certain
times of the year.
Janet G
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| nospam@nospam.org 2005-10-22, 6:21 pm |
| On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:27:26 +0100, Kay <kay@scarboro.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
>Scotts catalogue says 'of good quality, though sometimes a little hard'
>
>It describes it as 'storing well', but they have another 39 dessert
>apples in the same category 'keeping till march and later'.
I think the only way to know for sure is to try it myself. I will have
to try and find someone selling Ida Red trees. Although with a choice
of 39, I don't think I will have space to try them all! How can I get
a copy of this catalogue? Thanks.
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| In article <c0all1p717h94fovv434mrq6539pj2q2un@4ax.com>,
nospam@nospam.org writes
>On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:27:26 +0100, Kay <kay@scarboro.demon.co.uk>
>wrote:
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>I think the only way to know for sure is to try it myself. I will have
>to try and find someone selling Ida Red trees. Although with a choice
>of 39, I don't think I will have space to try them all! How can I get
>a copy of this catalogue? Thanks.
Telephone 01460 72306
Scotts Nurseries, Merriott, TA16 5PL
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Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"
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| nospam@nospam.org 2005-10-25, 4:21 pm |
| On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 23:38:00 +0100, Kay <kay@scarboro.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
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>Telephone 01460 72306
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>Scotts Nurseries, Merriott, TA16 5PL
Thanks
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