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| kerryo 2005-10-18, 11:21 am |
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Hello everybody. I thought i'd better introduce myself and not just lurk
away in the background. I am in the process of planting a garden from
scratch and will probably have a million questions to ask. I live on
the southside of Glasgow in a cottage flat. I am trying to get a
cottage garden feel together and am mainly just using plants in the
garden. There are 3 flights of stairs up to the garden so getting plant
equipment or heavy materials up here is a no-no. I am awaiting a
delivery of hedging roses -rosa rugosa red and queen elizabeth roses
and some escallonia cf ball also for hedging. If anyone has any handy
tips on planting these, i'd be grateful to hear your thoughts.
I am 32 years old and am interested in scooters, interior design and
furniture, cats, greyhounds and ferrets and am a season ticket holder
at celtic park.
Nice to meet you, Kerry
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kerryo
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| La puce 2005-10-18, 12:21 pm |
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kerryo wrote:
> Hello everybody. I thought i'd better introduce myself and not just lurk
> away in the background. I am in the process of planting a garden from
> scratch and will probably have a million questions to ask. I live on
> the southside of Glasgow in a cottage flat. I am trying to get a
> cottage garden feel together and am mainly just using plants in the
> garden. There are 3 flights of stairs up to the garden so getting plant
> equipment or heavy materials up here is a no-no. I am awaiting a
> delivery of hedging roses -rosa rugosa red and queen elizabeth roses
> and some escallonia cf ball also for hedging. If anyone has any handy
> tips on planting these, i'd be grateful to hear your thoughts.
> I am 32 years old and am interested in scooters, interior design and
> furniture, cats, greyhounds and ferrets and am a season ticket holder
> at celtic park.
> Nice to meet you, Kerry
Hoooo! Glasgow!! I'm new too, so Hi! I wanted to go to The Hidden
Gardens as part of the Festival of light Fragran Glasgow but it will
take 5 hours to get there from Manchester :o( Is the Celtic Park part
of the above Hidden Gardens? I think those gardens are just wonderful.
Have you been?!
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| keith ;-\) 2005-10-18, 5:21 pm |
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"La puce" <helene@rudlin.co.uk> wrote in message
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> kerryo wrote:
>
> Hoooo! Glasgow!! I'm new too, so Hi! I wanted to go to The Hidden
> Gardens as part of the Festival of light Fragran Glasgow but it will
> take 5 hours to get there from Manchester :o( Is the Celtic Park part
> of the above Hidden Gardens? I think those gardens are just wonderful.
> Have you been?!
Yes ,but dont go on a saturday as about 60,000 people visit!
>
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| kerryo 2005-10-19, 11:21 am |
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keith ;-\) Wrote:
> "La puce" helene@rudlin.co.uk wrote in message
> news:1129648524.349043.326860@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> kerryo wrote:[color=green]
> Hoooo! Glasgow!! I'm new too, so Hi! I wanted to go to The Hidden
> Gardens as part of the Festival of light Fragran Glasgow but it will
> take 5 hours to get there from Manchester :o( Is the Celtic Park part
> of the above Hidden Gardens? I think those gardens are just
> wonderful.
> Have you been?!
>
> ]
hello. the light festival thing is on next month and i'll probably go.
Celtic park is not part of it, but it is paradise : ) Celtic park is
a football stadium, not an actual park. The grass is pretty well kept
though! It may be worth the trip up as there are other lovely gardens
in glasgow but it may not be the best time of year to see them.
Shopping here is great though if you fancied a garden/xmas shopping
combo. I think there is a german xmas market on in glasgow that weekend
too.
you could check it out on glasgow city council's website and you could
check out greenbank gardens at the national trust scotland's site.
cheers, kerry
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kerryo
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| Spider 2005-10-20, 10:21 am |
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kerryo <kerryo.1x3pk2@gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> Hello everybody. I thought i'd better introduce myself and not just lurk
> away in the background. I am in the process of planting a garden from
> scratch and will probably have a million questions to ask. I live on
> the southside of Glasgow in a cottage flat. I am trying to get a
> cottage garden feel together and am mainly just using plants in the
> garden. There are 3 flights of stairs up to the garden so getting plant
> equipment or heavy materials up here is a no-no. I am awaiting a
> delivery of hedging roses -rosa rugosa red and queen elizabeth roses
> and some escallonia cf ball also for hedging. If anyone has any handy
> tips on planting these, i'd be grateful to hear your thoughts.
> I am 32 years old and am interested in scooters, interior design and
> furniture, cats, greyhounds and ferrets and am a season ticket holder
> at celtic park.
> Nice to meet you, Kerry
>
>
> --
> kerryo
Hi Kerry,
Welcome to the newsgroup and gardening. I'm afraid scooters and football
turn me cold, but your other interests sound fine. Glad to find another
gardener who is a cat lover.
If you ordered your shrubs from a reputable source, you should receive
planting and cultural instructions with delivery. The hedging plants you
have can be planted about 18" apart (2' if you've got lots of room and
patience). Don't try and dig individual holes for each plant. Dig out a
deeper, wider trench than you need and fork the bottom over to improve
drainage. Then cover the bottom of the trench with some of the soil you
removed, improved with compost and bonemeal. Then lay all your shrubs in
line so you can equalise the spacing. Once correctly aligned, begin to
backfill with your improved soil mix, firming the soil as you go. You
should aim to have the finished soil level at the same level on each shrub
as its original soil mark. Once planted, *water really well*. Continue to
water thoroughly (excepting torrential downpours) until you are sure the
hedge is established. Once most of the frosts are over, feed with a
general fertiliser. When your hedge produces flower buds, give it a high
potash feed, such as Rose Fertiliser or Tomato Food to encourage flowering.
You can repeat the high potash feed after flowering, but never give a
nitrogenous feed after the end of June. (Nitrogenous food encourages new
leaf and stem growth; if fed too late in the year the new sappy growth will
be vulnerable to early frosts).
N.B. Because I have local foxes coming into my garden, when using bonemeal
I always scatter some extra bonemeal on the soil surface. This seems to
satisfy the foxes that they haven't stumbled on a bone mountain! Since
doing this, I haven't had the problem of foxes digging up newly planted
shrubs.
The hedging plants you name are usually recommended for an informal hedge,
that is, not pruned/sheared to a formal shape. Nevertheless, you should
prune and shape your hedge as it grows so that it thickens up and makes a
solid hedge from top to bottom. You will find that your Escallonia, if left
to its own devices, will become rather unruly and top-heavy. I have seen
Escallonia kept as a very neat formal hedge, but you will need to keep it
trimmed tightly throughout its life. I suspect, because of your (also
informal) rose hedging that you will need to consider a semi-formal
approach. If you cut both these shrubs back to make a tight, formal hedge
you could find yourself cutting away all the flowering growth. Whichever
style of hedge you choose, it is best to develop an 'A' shaped hedge (wider
at the bottom, narrower at the top) so that the top growth doesn't shade the
hedge bottom, causing it to become open and spindly.
Hope this helps.
Spider
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| La puce 2005-10-20, 1:21 pm |
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kerryo wrote:
> hello. the light festival thing is on next month and i'll probably go.
> Celtic park is not part of it, but it is paradise : ) Celtic park is
> a football stadium, not an actual park. The grass is pretty well kept
> though! It may be worth the trip up as there are other lovely gardens
> in glasgow but it may not be the best time of year to see them.
> Shopping here is great though if you fancied a garden/xmas shopping
> combo. I think there is a german xmas market on in glasgow that weekend
> too.
> you could check it out on glasgow city council's website and you could
> check out greenbank gardens at the national trust scotland's site.
> cheers, kerry
Thanks Kerry. If the show had started during half term, perhaps I would
have been able to escape during the week. According to Keith it sounds
packed at week end (thought I survived Chelsea this year!). Perhaps I
give it a miss and wait until next Spring as you suggest.
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| The message <dj83gi$4fr$1$830fa7a5@news.demon.co.uk>
from "Spider" <Spider@nospam.com> contains these words:
> Glad to find another
> gardener who is a cat lover.
We wouldn't be without our cat. Until finding the cat on death row in
the SSPCA we had a major problem with rabbits. Since he came on the
scene we have had no losses to either rabbit or other rodent nuisances -
although his habit of leaving the rabbits' back legs and sphincter under
the kitchen table took some getting used to!
--
Cheers,
Compo - Caithness
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| La puce 2005-10-21, 7:21 am |
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compo wrote:
> We wouldn't be without our cat.
We couldn't either without our 2 cats. They keep our two dogs in check
:o)
(snip)
> although his habit of leaving the rabbits' back legs and sphincter under
> the kitchen table took some getting used to!
Yurk!! Rabbits bits?! You've got a panther or something?! The most
carnaged we witness was the offerings of 3 lil' mice, which we found
lined up on the step in our house. The funny thing is that we could
touch them. Lilly, our she cat and top hunter, was growling when we
approached them. We had to distract her to gather the bits of rodents.
There was a woodpigeon once, cornered in our back garden by my tom cat,
who as soon as he heard me tapping on the window, jumped on the poor
bird, grabbed it and lep over the fence. I was a bit upset about this.
Rats and mice is one thing. But woodpigeon is a real shame.
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| Spider 2005-10-21, 9:21 am |
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La puce <helene@rudlin.co.uk> wrote in message
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> compo wrote:
>
> We couldn't either without our 2 cats. They keep our two dogs in check
> :o)
>
> (snip)
>
>
> Yurk!! Rabbits bits?! You've got a panther or something?! The most
> carnaged we witness was the offerings of 3 lil' mice, which we found
> lined up on the step in our house. The funny thing is that we could
> touch them. Lilly, our she cat and top hunter, was growling when we
> approached them. We had to distract her to gather the bits of rodents.
> There was a woodpigeon once, cornered in our back garden by my tom cat,
> who as soon as he heard me tapping on the window, jumped on the poor
> bird, grabbed it and lep over the fence. I was a bit upset about this.
> Rats and mice is one thing. But woodpigeon is a real shame.
>
Hi Compo and La Puce,
Yes, cats are great little helpers, and they *can* be trained to respect the
garden.
I have far fewer bulbs lost to squirrels since Cheetah and Panther have been
patrolling their territory. Other rodents are kept at bay, too, although
the other evening Cheetah brought me a live mouse. This morning I found the
tail and hind legs of a mouse in the kitchen .. delightful! Sadly, a bird
is occasionally killed, but most prey items are rodents.
I've also known cats capable of 'managing' dogs .. spit and claws usually
does it .. a great demonstration of who's boss. Oh well, best get back to
gardening or we'll be in trouble for hijacking this thread *and* going OT.
Spider
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| La puce 2005-10-21, 10:21 am |
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Spider wrote:
> Hi Compo and La Puce,
> Yes, cats are great little helpers, and they *can* be trained to respect the
> garden.
> I have far fewer bulbs lost to squirrels since Cheetah and Panther have been
> patrolling their territory. Other rodents are kept at bay, too, although
> the other evening Cheetah brought me a live mouse. This morning I found the
> tail and hind legs of a mouse in the kitchen .. delightful! Sadly, a bird
> is occasionally killed, but most prey items are rodents.
> I've also known cats capable of 'managing' dogs .. spit and claws usually
> does it .. a great demonstration of who's boss. Oh well, best get back to
> gardening or we'll be in trouble for hijacking this thread *and* going OT.
That is so sweetly put. It's so cozy in here. Perhaps too cozy ... But
I don't think we've been *that* bad. After all the thread is called
'new member'. Lets just say the welcome are really warm and long and
friendly :o)
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| kerryo 2005-10-21, 11:21 am |
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kerryo Wrote:
> Hello everybody. Thanks for the friendly welcome and the good advice,
> especially regarding the escallonia. Glad there's a few mog fans here.
> I have 3 of the beasts.
> I'm off to order the fungi things now there are two kinds, one for
> shrubs and trees and one for everything else
> Kerry
Hope it stays dry this weekend
--
kerryo
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| Mike Lyle 2005-10-21, 12:21 pm |
| kerryo wrote:
> kerryo Wrote:
advice,[color=darkred]
>
> Hope it stays dry this weekend
Whoa! I really wouldn't bother with "the fungal things" if you mean
mycorrhizal inoculation. Your soil and any plants you buy may have
quite enough already, and it won't matter anyhow. See another thread,
and save the pennies: in general practice, it's a con.
If you saw the Wollemi pine being planted at Kew, then that was a
very special case. This was a hardly-studied plant worth ten thousand
quid and from a parent growing in an extremely limited range, being
asked to grow 12,000 miles from where any of its close relatives had
grown since before man evolved, and top experts were using carefully
selected belt and braces. None of these conditions apply to anything
you and I can get to put in our gardens, and Kew almost certainly
didn't actually _need_ to do it. You may have noticed a slight smirk
on the face of Kew's tree man as he said what was in the envelope.
Glad to see he dropped a coin into the hole, though: I find that
always works.
--
Mike.
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| Jaques d'Alltrades 2005-10-21, 2:21 pm |
| The message <1129888682.853400.69090@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
from "La puce" <helene@rudlin.co.uk> contains these words:
> compo wrote:
[color=darkred]
> We couldn't either without our 2 cats. They keep our two dogs in check
> :o)
> (snip)
[color=darkred]
> Yurk!! Rabbits bits?! You've got a panther or something?! The most
> carnaged we witness was the offerings of 3 lil' mice, which we found
> lined up on the step in our house.
I had a cat which caught rabbits. Once pounced on a dog fox and rode him
away like a jockey on a norse, clawing away at its mask as it went. Came
back still bristling, with that 'gunslinger' walk a riled cat has - she
had kittens at the time.
Next week (to the day) she spied the fox trotting along the path and
made for it like a little black exocet. Fox saw her coming and lit out
like a sensible beast.
Yet, she was *VERY* wary of a black rabbit I had...
A friend phoned me to say that he'd rescued the thing from a whippet, in
his father's garden. Haing made inquiries locally, no-one seemed to own
it. Knowing I was to be farming rabbits later in the year, he thought
I'd like it.
Well, I didn't really, but I reckoned I could knock-up a hutch for it
until I could find a home for it, so I put it down in the kitchen (lino
floor) and offered it some porage oats and a dish of water.
Rabbit spied the coal scuttle and thought something along the lines of
"Coo! Camouflage!" and hopped in.
Meanwhile, kittens (aforementioned, but just a bit older) came in
demanding to be fed, and skirted the rabbit warily, noshed their grub
and disappeared into the garden again. Cat came in, looking neither to
the right nor to the left, after all, this was *HER* house, innit?.
Meanwhile, as the cat was noshing her grub, Rabbi was getting curious,
and smelling something pleasant from within a digestive biscuits
wrapper, stuck his head in.
Unable to reach the crumbs at the bottom of it, he tried to withdraw his
head - however - the long red tube was nicely stuck, and Rabbi panicked,
and bolted.
Bolted straight at cat as she was innocently enjying her tea, and out of
the corner of her eye she espied rushing at her, this big black furry
thing with a red cylinder for a head.
Cat leaped vertically in running mode as the Redheaded Rabbi passed
harmlessly underneath, and when she hit the ground running, did a wall
of death round three walls and using the working-surface as a
springboard, leaped on my back and climbed up so she was looking over
the top of my head.
She never trusted that rabbit ever again...
> The funny thing is that we could
> touch them. Lilly, our she cat and top hunter, was growling when we
> approached them. We had to distract her to gather the bits of rodents.
> There was a woodpigeon once, cornered in our back garden by my tom cat,
> who as soon as he heard me tapping on the window, jumped on the poor
> bird, grabbed it and lep over the fence. I was a bit upset about this.
> Rats and mice is one thing. But woodpigeon is a real shame.
Mine didn't go after birds, her one joy in life was slaughtering rats.
Mice would do, but rats were The Thing. She also killed stoats and
weasels.
--
Rusty
horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co full-stop uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/
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| La puce 2005-10-21, 7:21 pm |
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Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
> I had a cat which caught rabbits.
(reluctant snip)
How could you Monsieur Jaques! Carry on, BUT CARRY ON! My sides split
.... It's priceless, especially the 'black furry thing with a red
cylinder for a head'. How wonderful. My glass of Rivesaltes never
tasted so good.
ps. Can I put a 'c' in your first name? That is if you don't mind. I
thought between the 'a' and the 'q'; 'Jacques'. Looks better don't you
think?
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| Mike Lyle 2005-10-21, 7:21 pm |
| La puce wrote:
> Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
[...][color=darkred]
> ps. Can I put a 'c' in your first name? That is if you don't mind.
I
> thought between the 'a' and the 'q'; 'Jacques'. Looks better don't
you
> think?
As You Like It.
Boom, boom!
--
Mike.
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| La puce 2005-10-21, 7:21 pm |
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Mike Lyle wrote:
> As You Like It.
> Boom, boom!
How foxy of you. Do you know Tate? Any relation?
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| Jaques d'Alltrades 2005-10-21, 9:21 pm |
| The message <1129930686.339493.262060@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>
from "La puce" <helene@rudlin.co.uk> contains these words:
> Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
[color=darkred]
> (reluctant snip)
> How could you Monsieur Jaques! Carry on, BUT CARRY ON! My sides split
> .... It's priceless, especially the 'black furry thing with a red
> cylinder for a head'. How wonderful. My glass of Rivesaltes never
> tasted so good.
> ps. Can I put a 'c' in your first name? That is if you don't mind. I
> thought between the 'a' and the 'q'; 'Jacques'. Looks better don't you
> think?
Well, I rather like it as a Shakespearian Jaques, (As You Like It - "All
the world's a stage," and all that), or even a musical one, Émile
Jaques-Dalcroze...
--
Rusty
horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co full-stop uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/
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| Jaques d'Alltrades 2005-10-21, 9:21 pm |
| The message <3rt7cgFli73nU1@individual.net>
from "Mike Lyle" <mike_lyle_uk@REMOVETHISyahoo.co.uk> contains these words:
> As You Like It.
> Boom, boom!
Allyhats on!
Flippin' Shakespearian Rays!
--
Rusty
horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co full-stop uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/
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| Jaques d'Alltrades 2005-10-21, 9:21 pm |
| The message <1129932923.382111.327060@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
from "La puce" <helene@rudlin.co.uk> contains these words:
> Mike Lyle wrote:
[color=darkred]
> How foxy of you. Do you know Tate? Any relation?
Levi Tate?
--
Rusty
horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co full-stop uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/
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| La puce 2005-10-22, 8:21 am |
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Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
> Well, I rather like it as a Shakespearian Jaques, (As You Like It - "All
> the world's a stage," and all that), or even a musical one, =C9mile
> Jaques-Dalcroze...
I do apologise. I just found out about Jaques. Ok. Forget the c.
ps. A bit peeved. The railway sleepers I wanted for 1 quid each, not
only have all gone but the chap won't have anymore. Damn. I thought I
would have made a start on some raised bed. I even had a couple of
strong muscled friends lined up for help... Back to the search :o(
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| La puce 2005-10-22, 8:21 am |
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Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
> Levi Tate?
1am!?! The pubs close late around your part of the world. But no. Not
Levi. Tho a good try.
Just picked some more tomatoes. An awful lot of green ones still and I
don't like chutney. What to do beside chucking the lot in the compost?
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| Harold Walker 2005-10-22, 8:21 am |
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"La puce" <helene@rudlin.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
>
> 1am!?! The pubs close late around your part of the world. But no. Not
> Levi. Tho a good try.
>
> Just picked some more tomatoes. An awful lot of green ones still and I
> don't like chutney. What to do beside chucking the lot in the compost?
>
Fried green tomatoes?????
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| La puce 2005-10-22, 8:21 am |
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Harold Walker wrote:
> Fried green tomatoes?????
Good film that. Made a ratatouille this am. Smells luvely MMmmmmmmm...
But ta for advice. I think I'll have to sacrifice them to the worms.
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| Jaques d'Alltrades 2005-10-22, 9:21 am |
| The message <1129978468.164477.20550@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
from "La puce" <helene@rudlin.co.uk> contains these words:
> Just picked some more tomatoes. An awful lot of green ones still and I
> don't like chutney. What to do beside chucking the lot in the compost?
Molish chutney, and send it here?
--
Rusty
horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co full-stop uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/
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| La puce 2005-10-22, 10:21 am |
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Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
> Molish chutney, and send it here?
Molish ... molish?
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| Mike Lyle 2005-10-22, 10:21 am |
| La puce wrote:
> Harold Walker wrote:
>
> Good film that. Made a ratatouille this am. Smells luvely
MMmmmmmmm...
> But ta for advice. I think I'll have to sacrifice them to the
worms.
They will ripen off the plant. Not as well as on, but don't throw
them away yet.
--
Mike.
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| La puce 2005-10-22, 10:21 am |
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Mike Lyle wrote:
> They will ripen off the plant. Not as well as on, but don't throw
> them away yet.
I've had saucers and bowls of ripe toms with green ones all over the
place for weeks so that they ripen quicker (with the ethylene). But
honestly Mike, I have *lots* of minute ones. I have made this gorgeous
raised bed at home and planted some there and they did well. On the
lotty they didn't do as well (I neglected them, I know, shameful, too
many leaves and they were not getting as warm as the ones at home). I
think I've thought about every possibility. My son made a neckless with
the lil' ones because I was stringing pumpkins seeds for our party next
week and he thought they would look good.
Away to the worms the rest is going.
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| Jaques d'Alltrades 2005-10-22, 1:21 pm |
| The message <1129983660.405991.20920@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
from "La puce" <helene@rudlin.co.uk> contains these words:
> Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
[color=darkred]
> Molish ... molish?
< a present from The hed>
Demolish = unmake
Molsh = make
Dismantle = unmake
Mantle = a glowing thing in a lamp which is as bright as a glowing thing.
HTH
</Shed>
--
Rusty
horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co full-stop uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/
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| Allen Caius 2005-10-22, 5:21 pm |
| The message <1129978468.164477.20550@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
from "La puce" <helene@rudlin.co.uk> contains these words:
> What to do beside chucking the lot in the compost?
Or just chuck the lot beside the compost? <g>
If you have many green uns you might like to try the variety 'Bloody
Butcher' from Suttons Heritage seed colection. I grew them this season
(North Scotland) and have no toms left to ripen. They were earlier than
all my other varieties: Costuluto fiorentino, Shirley, Moneymaker, and
Big Boy.
--
Cheers,
Allen
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| La puce 2005-10-22, 8:21 pm |
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Allen Caius wrote:
> Or just chuck the lot beside the compost? <g>
:o) I did think that there was something wrong with the structure of my
sentence, after sending...
> If you have many green uns you might like to try the variety 'Bloody
> Butcher' from Suttons Heritage seed colection. I grew them this season
> (North Scotland) and have no toms left to ripen. They were earlier than
> all my other varieties: Costuluto fiorentino, Shirley, Moneymaker, and
> Big Boy.
Bloody Butcher. I won't forget that name! Ta. I had Moneymaker at home
but unsure what I had at the lotty since it was presents from a friend
who had no idea either. The sun is not the ony thing for toms. I
beleive warmth is more important. Do you kit your toms with lil' scarfs
and woolie hats up north?!
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| Jaques d'Alltrades 2005-10-22, 8:21 pm |
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> Bloody Butcher. I won't forget that name! Ta. I had Moneymaker at home
Yeuch! Commercial flavourless ghastly things.
> but unsure what I had at the lotty since it was presents from a friend
> who had no idea either. The sun is not the ony thing for toms. I
> beleive warmth is more important. Do you kit your toms with lil' scarfs
> and woolie hats up north?!
Daylight is important. Apparently, the shortening of the days at the end
of June trigger ripening. (Though I've seen them ripening earlier than
that, with a little help.)
In Scotland, the daylight hours are longer in the summer. (When I lived
on the Isle of Lewis, it never got completely dark at midsummer.)
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| La puce 2005-10-23, 11:21 am |
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Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
> Daylight is important. Apparently, the shortening of the days at the end
> of June trigger ripening. (Though I've seen them ripening earlier than
> that, with a little help.)
How do you make them blush?!
> In Scotland, the daylight hours are longer in the summer. (When I lived
> on the Isle of Lewis, it never got completely dark at midsummer.)
That's lovely but I've never seen sunshine in Scotland. Ever. I think
it's a myth, just like the Loch Ness.
dd&tc
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| Jaques d'Alltrades 2005-10-23, 2:21 pm |
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> Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
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> How do you make them blush?!
Show them the salad dressing.
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> That's lovely but I've never seen sunshine in Scotland. Ever. I think
> it's a myth, just like the Loch Ness.
Oh, it can be found, but usually, it's got something better to do than
shine on the dour folk of <D&RFC> Scotland...
And Loch Ness is there all right, I've seen it: indeed, there's a lot of
it as I can attest, 'cos I've walked from Fort Augustus to Inverness.
Well, to be fair, that was some time ago, but it was there *LAST* time I
looked.
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| La puce 2005-10-23, 3:21 pm |
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Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
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> from "La puce" <helene@rudlin.co.uk> contains these words:
> Show them the salad dressing.
Ho. I thought you'd get your clothes off in front of them. It's a good
job I asked.
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> Oh, it can be found, but usually, it's got something better to do than
> shine on the dour folk of <D&RFC> Scotland...
> And Loch Ness is there all right, I've seen it: indeed, there's a lot of
> it as I can attest, 'cos I've walked from Fort Augustus to Inverness.
Monster ... the Loch Ness MONSTER!
> Well, to be fair, that was some time ago, but it was there *LAST* time I
> looked.
A long time ago I'm sure. I SAID 'A LONG TIME AGO'... <g>
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| Allen Caius 2005-10-23, 5:21 pm |
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> Do you kit your toms with lil' scarfs
> and woolie hats up north?!
The Archers' favourite - a polytunnel 
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| Allen Caius 2005-10-23, 5:21 pm |
| > I think it's a myth, just like the Loch Ness.
> dd&tc
Aye, 'e mythical Loch Ness - I kent it weel. Nowadays thersh a wee
pathy 'at follows 'e line o' 'e Great Glen from Fort Willum al 'e way te
Inverrneesh, unlike when Roosty wheer but a wee laddie daein' his a
walking in 'e lond o' 'e Gods.
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| Jaques d'Alltrades 2005-10-23, 5:21 pm |
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> Monster ... the Loch Ness MONSTER!
Weel, ye didna' say that!
I used to ken a body wha saw it on twa separate occasions - and he
wisnae the sort of person tae mak' up stories - he had plenty cred
withoot that. (He wis a weel-decorated major during the war, then a
baronet and later a belted earl and Chief of Clan Murray. He wis an
university lecturer tae: history, at Edinburgh an' Glesga, as weel as
Commissioner for Rover Scouts, Scotland.
Whit for wad he want tae impress people?
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> A long time ago I'm sure. I SAID 'A LONG TIME AGO'... <g>
NURSE! There's a flea-bite shouting at me! Is it really Horlicks time already?
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| Jaques d'Alltrades 2005-10-23, 6:21 pm |
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> Aye, 'e mythical Loch Ness - I kent it weel. Nowadays thersh a wee
> pathy 'at follows 'e line o' 'e Great Glen from Fort Willum al 'e way te
> Inverrneesh, unlike when Roosty wheer but a wee laddie daein' his a
> walking in 'e lond o' 'e Gods.
Weel, ane school summer holiday, Ah walkit frae Dunblane tae Balloch, up
Loch Lomondside tae Ardlui, on tae Crianlarich, frae there tae Killin
tae visit a body, back past Crianlarich tae Tyndrum, up Glen Coe to
Ballachulish, over the ferry (nae brig then!) and up tae Fort William,
where Ah remained for a few days and visited a friend.
The weather wisnae suitable for going up The Ben, sae Ah continued to
Spean Bridge, by Laggan tae th' A9, up tae Aviemore, then tae Glenmore
Lodge, up Cairn Gorm and doon th' ither side, followed the footpath
along Glen Avon under Ben Macdui tae Braemar, from there tae Inverness,
up tae Garve and frae there tae Lochcarron via Strome Ferry, and then up
tae Strath, by Gairloch, where Ah paid my last courtesy call.
By this time Ah wis runnin' oot o' mony, an' time wis getting a bittie
tight and Ah'd likely be late for the beginning o' term, so Ah
hitch-hikit doon tae Edinburgh and caught the train back hame.
This WIS an awfy lang time syne - 1958, tae be accurate.
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| Allen Caius 2005-10-23, 7:21 pm |
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> This WIS an awfy lang time syne
Ond a awfy lang walk tae!
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| Jaques d'Alltrades 2005-10-23, 8:21 pm |
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> Ond a awfy lang walk tae!
Aye - a week at Auchengillan (Dunblane), then anither five trudgin' wi'
a heavy pack.
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| Janet Baraclough 2005-10-24, 11:21 am |
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> Aye - a week at Auchengillan (Dunblane), then anither five trudgin' wi'
> a heavy pack.
I thought your route was a bit devious at the start. Auchengillan
(where the scout camp is) is at Strathblane, not Dunblane :-). Ditto,
the West Highland Way route you followed.
Janet.
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| Janet Baraclough 2005-10-24, 8:21 pm |
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> Fair's fair - it was getting on for fifty years ago...
You had to push yourself in your own pram? :-)
> Not quite sure what you mean with your 'ditto' bit -
Lost the post now. When you set off up Loch Lomondside, you almost
certainly did it via Strathblane, not Dunblane.
Great walk, though.
Janet
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| Jaques d'Alltrades 2005-10-25, 7:21 am |
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> You had to push yourself in your own pram? :-)
Not quite - I was in the 6th form at school, then.
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> Lost the post now. When you set off up Loch Lomondside, you almost
> certainly did it via Strathblane, not Dunblane.
More than likely. I had decently-scaled maps then which had the names of
practically every clachan on them.
> Great walk, though.
Yes. I did a lot of growing-up on it.
And came back even fitter than before. (In those days I used to run a
half-marathon before breakfast every morning - yes, really.)
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| Janet Baraclough 2005-10-25, 3:21 pm |
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> Yes. I did a lot of growing-up on it.
Couldn't agree more. Each of our teen lads in turn hiked the first
"Highland Way" leg of your trek (a mere 90 miles) as a sort of solo
rite of passage.
Janet.
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| Jaques d'Alltrades 2005-10-25, 4:21 pm |
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> Couldn't agree more. Each of our teen lads in turn hiked the first
> "Highland Way" leg of your trek (a mere 90 miles) as a sort of solo
> rite of passage.
I set myself a task - buy no food for as long as possible. I managed a
fortnight - fishing for brown trout, I usually caught eels, but fried
eel is rather good - if you can bear to see it wriggling once you've
decapitated it, and wriggling after you've skinned it, and the segments
twitching as you drop them in the pan...
I found a knocked-down but unsquished brown hare, raspberries in plenty,
crowberries, blaeberries and cranberries, and I knew a lot of the edible
fungi I found. I found a lot more which I now know to be edible, but one
doesn't take chances there...
After a forninght of something akin to the Atkins' Diet (Atkins?
Adkins?), fish, flesh and fruit, with some wild vegetables, I succumbed,
and scoffed a hot pie and a packet of digestives. It was all downhill
from then onwards...
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| Janet Baraclough 2005-10-25, 7:21 pm |
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fried
> eel is rather good - if you can bear to see it wriggling once you've
> decapitated it, and wriggling after you've skinned it, and the segments
> twitching as you drop them in the pan...
Well, I can't bear it. My grandmother used to catch and cook eels
(ISTR , red knitting wool came into the capturing bit, but can't
remember how) horrible slimy things, then she'd have them wriggling in
the tin bath, before they wriggled in the frying pan, eeeeek. I've also
eaten panfried elvers which die quicker (or twitch less). Smoked eel is
nice, but only if I didn't meet it during life :-)
Janet
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| La puce 2005-10-25, 7:21 pm |
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Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
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> After a forninght of something akin to the Atkins' Diet (Atkins?
> Adkins?), fish, flesh and fruit, with some wild vegetables, I succumbed,
> and scoffed a hot pie and a packet of digestives. It was all downhill
> from then onwards...
Not surprised really if you're coming down from Strathblane.
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| Jaques d'Alltrades 2005-10-25, 9:21 pm |
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> Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
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The trial and fall were mostly in Inverness-shire and Ross & Cromarty.
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| La puce 2005-10-26, 10:21 am |
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Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
> The trial and fall were mostly in Inverness-shire and Ross & Cromarty.
Do you have the scars to prove it? Huh?! I didn't go so far up. We left
Fort XXXXXXXX by 5pm and arrived in Manchester at 1am, after stopping
in Glasgow. We all had enough of 6 days rain non stop. The dogs kept
steaming up the car - it was a bad trip.
But we had stayed the previous week in Lynlithgow, blue sky and warm
sunshine, at the little <cough> castle of a friend. The loch was at the
bottom of his property. A few slops there. My kids fell about a bit.
Does that count?
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| Jaques d'Alltrades 2005-10-26, 3:21 pm |
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> But we had stayed the previous week in Lynlithgow, blue sky and warm
> sunshine, at the little <cough> castle of a friend. The loch was at the
> bottom of his property. A few slops there. My kids fell about a bit.
> Does that count?
Wot, they slopped in the loch?
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| La puce 2005-10-27, 8:21 am |
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Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
> Wot, they slopped in the loch?
Nah. But they're knowned for taking skinny deeps here, there and
everywhere and where you'd think one shouldn't really. Bless them.
Angels they are. My youngest has been showing horticultural signs of
interests for a few years now. I'm amazed how much he knows already.
(Bradshaw, watch this space).
But then again, he's not fashion concious much atm. Wellies are just
plastic shoes you wear when it's muddy. My oldest however turns green
at the idea of wearing them. It's simply not done when wearing a
hoodie, when this item of clothing seems to be glued to him 24 hours a
day. Sadly this has limited his activities in the garden and the lotty,
tho he enjoys the latter on occasion as the shed provides a fantastic
place for jumping from, throwing stones from it onto a deserted
railway, swinging onto the cherry tree nearby and more of less behaving
like a demented pair of monkeys from up there. Digging potatoes are
also their job as well as eating anything sweet without me noticing and
blaming a wild racoon ...
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