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| Steve Newport 2005-10-23, 8:21 pm |
| The current article on honey fungus interested me. Suggestions about
cooking and eating.
I used to pick my own wild mushrooms and I know that puff balls are
edible but would never be confident enough to identify and eat wild
fungus.
Is there a good online resource on identifying fungus?
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| Jaques d'Alltrades 2005-10-24, 6:21 am |
| The message <qj3ol15gkaqi64u2dnvj2aen2b86nfgsei@4ax.com>
from Steve Newport <steven@newport47.fsnet.co.uk> contains these words:
> The current article on honey fungus interested me. Suggestions about
> cooking and eating.
> I used to pick my own wild mushrooms and I know that puff balls are
> edible but would never be confident enough to identify and eat wild
> fungus.
> Is there a good online resource on identifying fungus?
Post pics to a website and ask for id. in alt.nature.mushrooms
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| gentlegreen 2005-10-24, 7:21 am |
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"Jaques d'Alltrades" <rusty.hinge@foobar.zetnet.co.ok> wrote in message
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> from Steve Newport <steven@newport47.fsnet.co.uk> contains these words:
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> Post pics to a website and ask for id. in alt.nature.mushrooms
Roger Phillips is a highly acclaimed author and his entire book appears to
be online :-)
http://www.rogersmushrooms.com/
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> Rusty
> horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co full-stop uk
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| Jaques d'Alltrades 2005-10-24, 9:21 am |
| The message <x227f.135952$G8.397@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>
from "gentlegreen" <NOSPAM@yahoo.co.uk> contains these words:
> Roger Phillips is a highly acclaimed author and his entire book appears to
> be online :-)
> http://www.rogersmushrooms.com/
While it is a very good book, mushrooms are so variable in shape and
colour that you might pass a pic in the book without seeing the
similarity with the specimen you are trying to identify.
There is no substitute for your own experience and that of others - one
could often write huge tomes on a single species, and illustrate it with
dozens of varying forms and coloration depending on the clone, the
weather, the timeof year, the conditions where found, the conditions
when found, the age of the specimen and what it's been attacked or eaten
by.
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| gentlegreen 2005-10-24, 10:21 am |
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"Jaques d'Alltrades" <rusty.hinge@foobar.zetnet.co.ok> wrote in message
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> from "gentlegreen" <NOSPAM@yahoo.co.uk> contains these words:
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> While it is a very good book, mushrooms are so variable in shape and
> colour that you might pass a pic in the book without seeing the
> similarity with the specimen you are trying to identify.
>
> There is no substitute for your own experience and that of others - one
> could often write huge tomes on a single species, and illustrate it with
> dozens of varying forms and coloration depending on the clone, the
> weather, the timeof year, the conditions where found, the conditions
> when found, the age of the specimen and what it's been attacked or eaten
> by.
I fully concur.
I'm even nervous about buying dried mushrooms in the supermarket so Paul
Stamets is my preferred source - find a mushroom you like and cultivate it.
My brother has bought a small paddock with lots of poplar that needs felling
so I will doubtless be growing mushrooms on it.
Apart from the risk of destroying your liver, there are usually things
living in wild fungi .....
That said I will hopefully be going on a foray soon - maybe after a few
years I may seek out one or two species I can be confident about.
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> Rusty
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| Jaques d'Alltrades 2005-10-24, 1:21 pm |
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> That said I will hopefully be going on a foray soon - maybe after a few
> years I may seek out one or two species I can be confident about.
Acquire a stack of elder wood - any thickness - if you haven't got Jew's
Ear on it already, it's dead easy to inoculate it. Build the stack in a
shaded place, the damper the better.
Tramp around until you find an elder with small slightly translucent
chocolate coloured ear-shaped fungi, bring home as much of it as you
can, cut it into short lengths and distribute them about the stack.
Google for Auricularia auricula-judae - AKA - Hirneola auricula-judae.
And, if you are really interested in growing your own, morels may be
grown on the pulp from cidermaking, and several other species on oak and
poplar. I commend Chapter 7 (Mushroom growing) of Dr. John Ramsbottom's
excellent (if elderly) book, Mushrooms and Toadstools, in Collins' New
Naturalist series. A lot of the latin names used are out of date, thogh
generally recognised as alternatives.
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| On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 12:28:32 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
>While it is a very good book, mushrooms are so variable in shape and
>colour that you might pass a pic in the book without seeing the
>similarity with the specimen you are trying to identify.
and so variable in location and growing conditions,
which is why we created the usenet newsgroup free.uk.nature.mushroom
so as not to get mingled with, and at xporpoises with, the n.american
crowd on the alt.* heirararchy
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| On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 03:45:42 GMT,WaltA wrote:
>On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 12:28:32 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
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>and so variable in location and growing conditions,
>which is why we created the usenet newsgroup free.uk.nature.mushroom
>so as not to get mingled with, and at xporpoises with, the n.american
>crowd on the alt.* heirararchy
ooops,,, I meant to include your ref to
alt.nature.mushrooms
( vs. free.uk.nature.mushroom)
not out of xenophobia,
more because of local interest/relevance
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| Janet Galpin 2005-10-25, 10:21 am |
| The message <435da906.28741657@text.news.ntlworld.com>
from please@dontspam.nothere.com (WaltA) contains these words:
> On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 12:28:32 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
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> and so variable in location and growing conditions,
> which is why we created the usenet newsgroup free.uk.nature.mushroom
> so as not to get mingled with, and at xporpoises with, the n.american
> crowd on the alt.* heirararchy
How do you subscribe to this group? I can only find alt.nature.mushrooms
which is presumably the one you say is dominated by US members/concerns.
Janet G
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| gentlegreen 2005-10-25, 11:21 am |
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"Jaques d'Alltrades" <rusty.hinge@foobar.zetnet.co.ok> wrote in message
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> The message <yN47f.136041$G8.58315@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>
> from "gentlegreen" <NOSPAM@yahoo.co.uk> contains these words:
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> /chop/
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> Acquire a stack of elder wood - any thickness - if you haven't got Jew's
> Ear on it already, it's dead easy to inoculate it. Build the stack in a
> shaded place, the damper the better.
>
> Tramp around until you find an elder with small slightly translucent
> chocolate coloured ear-shaped fungi, bring home as much of it as you
> can, cut it into short lengths and distribute them about the stack.
>
> Google for Auricularia auricula-judae - AKA - Hirneola auricula-judae.
>
> And, if you are really interested in growing your own, morels may be
> grown on the pulp from cidermaking,
Back in the spring a really nice flush of black morels came up in some
fairly recently applied ornamental bark in a nearby garden - I'm assuming it
was as the result of sclerotia having been scooped up with the bark.
I was a little wary of trying them due to rumoured incompatibility with
alcohol.
Very attractive they looked too :-
http://uk.geocities.com/gentlegreen...morellowres.JPG
and several other species on oak and
> poplar. I commend Chapter 7 (Mushroom growing) of Dr. John Ramsbottom's
> excellent (if elderly) book, Mushrooms and Toadstools, in Collins' New
> Naturalist series. A lot of the latin names used are out of date, thogh
> generally recognised as alternatives.
>
> --
> Rusty
> horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co full-stop uk
> http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/
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| Jaques d'Alltrades 2005-10-25, 12:21 pm |
| The message <3130303036353939435E3A1B25@zetnet.co.uk>
from Janet Galpin <decoy.farm@zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
> The message <435da906.28741657@text.news.ntlworld.com>
> from please@dontspam.nothere.com (WaltA) contains these words:
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> How do you subscribe to this group? I can only find alt.nature.mushrooms
> which is presumably the one you say is dominated by US members/concerns.
I asked our Zetgod i.c. the server to carry it. (Oh, and it's 'mushrooms')
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Rusty
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| Jaques d'Alltrades 2005-10-25, 12:21 pm |
| The message <qRq7f.137044$G8.84397@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>
from "gentlegreen" <NOSPAM@yahoo.co.uk> contains these words:
> Back in the spring a really nice flush of black morels came up in some
> fairly recently applied ornamental bark in a nearby garden - I'm assuming it
> was as the result of sclerotia having been scooped up with the bark.
> I was a little wary of trying them due to rumoured incompatibility with
> alcohol.
> Very attractive they looked too :-
> http://uk.geocities.com/gentlegreen...morellowres.JPG
They often come up on bark mulch.
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Rusty
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| Jaques d'Alltrades 2005-10-25, 12:21 pm |
| The message <qRq7f.137044$G8.84397@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>
from "gentlegreen" <NOSPAM@yahoo.co.uk> contains these words:
> I was a little wary of trying them due to rumoured incompatibility with
> alcohol.
> Very attractive they looked too :-
> http://uk.geocities.com/gentlegreen...morellowres.JPG
I forgot to add - Morchella elata.
AFAIK it has no adverse reaction with alcohol. The only commonly eaten
mushroom (that refers to mushroom as a food rather than a recreational
activity) which is incpmpatible with alcohol that I know of is Coprinus
atramentarius (common ink cap - not the shaggy ink cap, or lawyer's
wig).
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http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/
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| On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 13:58:51 +0100, Janet & I wrote:
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>How do you subscribe to this group? I can only find alt.nature.mushrooms
>which is presumably the one you say is dominated by US members/concerns.
Ooops, sorry my bad typing, as Rusty has pointed out it should be
free.uk.nature.mushrooms
If he has only just requested that it be added to your server then
you'll have to keep updating your list till it appears.
Or when R. tells you that it has been added 
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| gentlegreen 2005-10-25, 3:21 pm |
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> I forgot to add - Morchella elata.
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> AFAIK it has no adverse reaction with alcohol. The only commonly eaten
> mushroom (that refers to mushroom as a food rather than a recreational
> activity) which is incpmpatible with alcohol that I know of is Coprinus
> atramentarius (common ink cap - not the shaggy ink cap, or lawyer's
> wig).
did I miss a gourmet feed then ? :-(
(it's my guess that they were a one-off phenomenon)
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> --
> Rusty
> horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co full-stop uk
> http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/
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| Jaques d'Alltrades 2005-10-25, 4:21 pm |
| The message <435e5366.424126@text.news.ntlworld.com>
from please@dontspam.nothere.com (WaltA) contains these words:
> On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 13:58:51 +0100, Janet & I wrote:
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> Ooops, sorry my bad typing, as Rusty has pointed out it should be
> free.uk.nature.mushrooms
> If he has only just requested that it be added to your server then
> you'll have to keep updating your list till it appears.
> Or when R. tells you that it has been added
No, I've been collecting it for ages.
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| Jaques d'Alltrades 2005-10-25, 4:21 pm |
| The message <dyu7f.137246$G8.60690@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>
from "gentlegreen" <gentlegreengiantcalciumcarbonate@yahoo.co.uk>
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> did I miss a gourmet feed then ? :-(
> (it's my guess that they were a one-off phenomenon)
IMO they're highly overrated, and about as good as the stuffing you cook
in them.
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Rusty
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| gentlegreen 2005-10-25, 5:21 pm |
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"Jaques d'Alltrades" <rusty.hinge@foobar.zetnet.co.ok> wrote in message
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> IMO they're highly overrated, and about as good as the stuffing you cook
> in them.
That seemed to be Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall's opinion too and he commented
on the large quantity of things that crawled out of all those orifices of
the ones he dried (after having previously fried some up "in the field" )
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> Rusty
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| Janet Galpin 2005-10-25, 10:21 pm |
| The message <3130303032303038435E7D8D89@foobar.zetnet.co.ok>
from Jaques d'Alltrades <rusty.hinge@foobar.zetnet.co.ok> contains these
words:
> The message <435e5366.424126@text.news.ntlworld.com>
> from please@dontspam.nothere.com (WaltA) contains these words:
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> No, I've been collecting it for ages.
It's not on my Zetnet list.
Janet G
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| Jaques d'Alltrades 2005-10-26, 4:21 am |
| The message <3130303036353939435EE19246@zetnet.co.uk>
from Janet Galpin <decoy.farm@zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
/free.uk.nature.mushrooms/
*watch the crosspost* - it's to see if it turns up there.
> It's not on my Zetnet list.
I asked Paul to carry it, then added it to active.nws - I've received
items, so I presume it is carried.
If it doesn't arrive I'll send him an emu to see if we can have it back
- I must say, on my machine it's empty ATM.
--
Rusty
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| WaltA 2005-10-26, 10:21 am |
| On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 08:10:21 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
>The message <3130303036353939435EE19246@zetnet.co.uk>
>from Janet Galpin <decoy.farm@zetnet.co.uk> contains these words:
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>/free.uk.nature.mushrooms/
>*watch the crosspost* - it's to see if it turns up there.
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>I asked Paul to carry it, then added it to active.nws - I've received
>items, so I presume it is carried.
>
>If it doesn't arrive I'll send him an emu to see if we can have it back
>- I must say, on my machine it's empty ATM.
Yes, I see your post in free.uk.nature.mushrooms,
it has reached the NTL* & Freeserve(Wannado) servers and is also in
GoogleGroups (gg. used to be quite slow, up to a day behind the usenet
servers,)
*I think NTL use the same feed as Virgin,
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