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Tree recommendations please!
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| We would like to plant a tree in the front garden of our three bed semi.
We would be grateful for suggestions for trees that fulfill the following
criteria:
1. It must be a tree that will not grow very tall.
2. It must have a crown that is not too dense, thus blocking light.
3. It must have foliage that changes colour through the seasons.
The garden faces due east, but in summer the sun would shine on the front of
the garden, where we will plant the tree, for most of the day.
Some variety of acer has been suggested.
What do others think?
Many thanks.
D. (a beginner)
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| Should have said that I live in (very temperate) Ireland.
Thanks.
D.
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"DM" <anti-spam-dmortell@eircom.net-anti spam> wrote in message
news:bjq7f.17817$R5.1729@news.indigo.ie...
> We would like to plant a tree in the front garden of our three bed semi.
>
> We would be grateful for suggestions for trees that fulfill the following
> criteria:
>
> 1. It must be a tree that will not grow very tall.
>
> 2. It must have a crown that is not too dense, thus blocking light.
>
> 3. It must have foliage that changes colour through the seasons.
>
> The garden faces due east, but in summer the sun would shine on the front
> of the garden, where we will plant the tree, for most of the day.
>
> Some variety of acer has been suggested.
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> What do others think?
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> Many thanks.
>
> D. (a beginner)
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One of the varieties of Rowan, check out the ones with the best autumn
colours.
Andy.
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| Emrys Davies 2005-10-25, 11:21 am |
| "DM" <anti-spam-dmortell@eircom.net-anti spam> wrote in message
news:bjq7f.17817$R5.1729@news.indigo.ie...
> We would like to plant a tree in the front garden of our three bed
semi.
>
> We would be grateful for suggestions for trees that fulfill the
following
> criteria:
>
> 1. It must be a tree that will not grow very tall.
>
> 2. It must have a crown that is not too dense, thus blocking light.
>
> 3. It must have foliage that changes colour through the seasons.
>
> The garden faces due east, but in summer the sun would shine on the
front of
> the garden, where we will plant the tree, for most of the day.
>
> Some variety of acer has been suggested.
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> What do others think?
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> Many thanks.
>
> D. (a beginner)
The crown of an acer is quite dense and the mid-day sun and east winds
would tend to scorch it somewhat, but Acer Palmatum Atropurpureum
http://www.daylilyparadise.com/japanesemaplered.jpg
tends to do quite well in the conditions which you have described.
More choice: http://tinyurl.com/c9ykn
Regards,
Emrys Davies.
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| Jaques d'Alltrades 2005-10-25, 12:21 pm |
| The message <bjq7f.17817$R5.1729@news.indigo.ie>
from "DM" <anti-spam-dmortell@eircom.net-anti spam> contains these words:
> Some variety of acer has been suggested.
> What do others think?
Winter viburnum?
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Rusty
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| Jaques d'Alltrades 2005-10-25, 12:21 pm |
| The message <aNq7f.17823$R5.1615@news.indigo.ie>
from "DM" <anti-spam-dmortell@eircom.net-anti spam> contains these words:
> Should have said that I live in (very temperate) Ireland.
Ah. Arbutus?
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Rusty
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| Tumbleweed 2005-10-25, 2:21 pm |
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"DM" <anti-spam-dmortell@eircom.net-anti spam> wrote in message
news:bjq7f.17817$R5.1729@news.indigo.ie...
> We would like to plant a tree in the front garden of our three bed semi.
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> We would be grateful for suggestions for trees that fulfill the following
> criteria:
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> 1. It must be a tree that will not grow very tall.
A bonsai
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> 2. It must have a crown that is not too dense, thus blocking light.
A bonsai
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> 3. It must have foliage that changes colour through the seasons.
An acer bonsai
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> The garden faces due east, but in summer the sun would shine on the front
> of the garden, where we will plant the tree, for most of the day.
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> Some variety of acer has been suggested.
Bingo!
FWIW we have a 3ft acer in a pot at the front of our house, the pot
restricts its growth nicely,and it seems to do well, it is east facing and
gets sun until noon-mid afternoon depending on the time of year, I am sure a
slightly larger one would do just as well. Out of a pot you'd need to keep
up with pruning or get a suitable variety.
--
Tumbleweed
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| Stewart Robert Hinsley 2005-10-25, 3:21 pm |
| In message <435e3862@212.67.96.135>, Andy <andrewpreece@onetel.com>
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>"DM" <anti-spam-dmortell@eircom.net-anti spam> wrote in message
>news:bjq7f.17817$R5.1729@news.indigo.ie...
>One of the varieties of Rowan, check out the ones with the best autumn
>colours.
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Or a birch, if the yellow autumn colour is acceptable. There's some
rowans with interesting bark, for winter interest, but more birches.
(But perhaps a birch grows too tall in the long run.)
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Stewart Robert Hinsley
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| Janet Baraclough 2005-10-25, 3:21 pm |
| The message <bjq7f.17817$R5.1729@news.indigo.ie>
from "DM" <anti-spam-dmortell@eircom.net-anti spam> contains these words:
> We would like to plant a tree in the front garden of our three bed semi.
> We would be grateful for suggestions for trees that fulfill the following
> criteria:
> 1. It must be a tree that will not grow very tall.
> 2. It must have a crown that is not too dense, thus blocking light.
> 3. It must have foliage that changes colour through the seasons.
One of the sorbus/rowan family. Hardy, trouble free, three seasons of
attraction and feeds birds.
Unlike acer.
Janet
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| Jaques d'Alltrades 2005-10-25, 4:21 pm |
| The message <p3JdlHCNmmXDFwoV@meden.demon.co.uk>
from Stewart Robert Hinsley <{$news$}@meden.demon.co.uk> contains these words:
> Or a birch, if the yellow autumn colour is acceptable. There's some
> rowans with interesting bark, for winter interest, but more birches.
> (But perhaps a birch grows too tall in the long run.)
I expect it would grow too tall in the short run.
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Rusty
horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co full-stop uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/
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| Pam Moore 2005-10-26, 11:21 am |
| On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 14:21:10 +0100, "DM"
<anti-spam-dmortell@eircom.net-anti spam> wrote:
>We would like to plant a tree in the front garden of our three bed semi.
>
>We would be grateful for suggestions for trees that fulfill the following
>criteria:
>
>1. It must be a tree that will not grow very tall.
>
>2. It must have a crown that is not too dense, thus blocking light.
>
>3. It must have foliage that changes colour through the seasons.
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>The garden faces due east, but in summer the sun would shine on the front of
>the garden, where we will plant the tree, for most of the day.
>
> Some variety of acer has been suggested.
>What do others think?
How about amelancier? Good size, not too dense, white flowers in
spring, and autumn colour.
Pam in Bristol
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| middleton.walker 2005-10-26, 11:21 am |
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"Pam Moore" <NOSpam.moore@NOSPAMvirgin.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 14:21:10 +0100, "DM"
> <anti-spam-dmortell@eircom.net-anti spam> wrote:
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> How about amelancier? Good size, not too dense, white flowers in
> spring, and autumn colour.
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> Pam in Bristol
plus berries for the birds.....H
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| Pam Moore 2005-10-26, 11:21 am |
| On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 09:23:10 -0400, "middleton.walker"
<middleton.walker@comcast.net> wrote:
> How about amelancier? Good size, not too dense, white flowers in
The ones I've seen and experienced seldom seem to set fruit. Not sure
why. I was ready to try eating the aberries if they appeared.[color=darkred]
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>plus berries for the birds.....H
Pam in Bristol
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| djhughes 2005-10-26, 11:21 am |
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what about an albizia (silk tree), lovely foliage not too dense,
beautiful flowers.
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djhughes
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| In article <4f1vl1pue9hmg5vja6ht09c2r8b6l5blq6@4ax.com>, Pam Moore
<NOSpam.moore@NOSPAMvirgin.net> writes
>On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 09:23:10 -0400, "middleton.walker"
><middleton.walker@comcast.net> wrote:
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>The ones I've seen and experienced seldom seem to set fruit. Not sure
>why. I was ready to try eating the aberries if they appeared.
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Mine produces a lot - but they do get very quickly taken by birds
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"
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| La puce 2005-10-27, 10:21 am |
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Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
> The message <p3JdlHCNmmXDFwoV@meden.demon.co.uk>
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> I expect it would grow too tall in the short run.
:o)
I thought about the sweetgum, liquidambar styraciflula, scented
flowers, leaves turning bright orange, then red, then purple in automn.
The rowan too is good, the aucuparia/aria ones with their bright orange
berries (edible too). But I would definitely plant an hawthorn,
crataegus monogyna, for the insects it houses and the 'haws' food it
provides for the thrushes, fieldfares and redwings. There's lots of
them in Ireland.
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| Sally Holmes 2005-10-27, 4:21 pm |
| "DM" <anti-spam-dmortell@eircom.net-anti spam> wrote in message
news:bjq7f.17817$R5.1729@news.indigo.ie...
> We would like to plant a tree in the front garden of our three bed
> semi.
> We would be grateful for suggestions for trees that fulfill the
> following criteria:
>
> 1. It must be a tree that will not grow very tall.
>
> 2. It must have a crown that is not too dense, thus blocking light.
>
> 3. It must have foliage that changes colour through the seasons.
Amelanchiers are lovely small trees: spring flowers, gorgeous autumn colour
and berries that birds like. I don't know why they're not more widely grown.
Make sure you buy one that's a tree not a bush.
--
Sally Holmes
Wakefield, West Yorkshire, England
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| H Ryder 2005-10-28, 9:21 pm |
| > How about amelancier? Good size, not too dense, white flowers in
> spring, and autumn colour.
do these need acidic soil?
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Hayley
(gardening on well drained, alkaline clay in Somerset)
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| Lee and Kath 2005-10-30, 7:21 am |
| On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 18:47:12 +0100, Janet Baraclough <janet.and.john@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>The message <bjq7f.17817$R5.1729@news.indigo.ie>
>from "DM" <anti-spam-dmortell@eircom.net-anti spam> contains these words:
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> One of the sorbus/rowan family. Hardy, trouble free, three seasons of
>attraction and feeds birds.
> Unlike acer.
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> Janet
You have to be careful which Rowan you choose. We had a self-seeded one which grew as high as the
house in 3 or 4 years!
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