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Pam Moore

2005-06-17, 11:25 pm

Re the discussion a while ago as to whether blueberries need a
pollinator, did any of you see the item on blueberries on GW tonight,
from GW Live at the NEC?
The lady who runs a blueberry nursery said that you must have 2
different varieties. Well, I only have one, and it has a heavy crop of
fruit. No, none of my neighbours grows blueberries. This is the 3rd
year I have had a good crop.
Any opinions why?

Pam in Bristol
Janet Baraclough

2005-06-17, 11:25 pm

The message <qjb6b15fo2ldf7mossphqhct0nj7gn0ggq@4ax.com>
from Pam Moore <NOSpam.moore@NOSPAMvirgin.net> contains these words:
quote:

> Re the discussion a while ago as to whether blueberries need a
> pollinator, did any of you see the item on blueberries on GW tonight,
> from GW Live at the NEC?
> The lady who runs a blueberry nursery said that you must have 2
> different varieties. Well, I only have one, and it has a heavy crop of
> fruit. No, none of my neighbours grows blueberries. This is the 3rd
> year I have had a good crop.
> Any opinions why?


Are you getting blueberry and black currant mixed up? Blackcurrants
need no pollinator and are setting fruit now, but blueberries are much
later so I'm surprised you have a heavy crop already. My blueberries are
only just flowering.

Janet
Jeff

2005-06-17, 11:25 pm

Janet Baraclough wrote:
quote:

> The message <qjb6b15fo2ldf7mossphqhct0nj7gn0ggq@4ax.com>
> from Pam Moore <NOSpam.moore@NOSPAMvirgin.net> contains these words:
>
>
>
>
> Are you getting blueberry and black currant mixed up? Blackcurrants
> need no pollinator and are setting fruit now, but blueberries are much
> later so I'm surprised you have a heavy crop already. My blueberries are
> only just flowering.
>
> Janet


There's at least one blueberry that self-pollinates - that's the reason
I bought mine, unfortunately I can't remember it's name :-(

I've got 2 plants that have cropped heavily for the past 6 years.
They both set fruit this year about 2 weeks ago (and that's in the NE of
England!)
Perhaps you've got the same type as me?

Jeff
Steve Harris

2005-06-17, 11:25 pm

In article <313030303930323942B348BF80@zetnet.co.uk>,
janet.and.john@zetnet.co.uk (Janet Baraclough) wrote:
quote:

> Are you getting blueberry and black currant mixed up?


LOL! You haven't grown blueberries, have you!

Like the OP, I have just the one bush and loads of berries. I reckon
about 70% of the flowers set fruit. Perhaps if I did have a pollinator,
it would be 90%

Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com
A useful bit of gardening software at http://www.netservs.com/garden/
Oxymel of Squill

2005-06-18, 12:25 pm

I have only one, called Bluecrop and it had berries this year, until a
branch blew off a tree and smashed it and container. It's recovering now but
still looks a bit miffed

quote:

>
> There's at least one blueberry that self-pollinates - that's the reason I
> bought mine, unfortunately I can't remember it's name :-(
>
> I've got 2 plants that have cropped heavily for the past 6 years.
> They both set fruit this year about 2 weeks ago (and that's in the NE of
> England!)
> Perhaps you've got the same type as me?
>
> Jeff



Janet Baraclough

2005-06-18, 12:25 pm

The message <memo.20050618011422.62497B@net-services.default>
from root@netservs.com (Steve Harris) contains these words:
quote:

> In article <313030303930323942B348BF80@zetnet.co.uk>,
> janet.and.john@zetnet.co.uk (Janet Baraclough) wrote:

quote:

[vbcol=seagreen]
> LOL! You haven't grown blueberries, have you!


Yes, it's in the part of my post you must have forgotrn to read
before you snipped it.
quote:

> Like the OP, I have just the one bush and loads of berries. I reckon
> about 70% of the flowers set fruit.


At this time of year?

Janet.


Tim Tyler

2005-06-18, 12:25 pm

Janet Baraclough <janet.and.john@zetnet.co.uk> wrote or quoted:
quote:

> The message <qjb6b15fo2ldf7mossphqhct0nj7gn0ggq@4ax.com>
> from Pam Moore <NOSpam.moore@NOSPAMvirgin.net> contains these words:

quote:

>
> Are you getting blueberry and black currant mixed up? Blackcurrants
> need no pollinator and are setting fruit now, but blueberries are much
> later so I'm surprised you have a heavy crop already. My blueberries are
> only just flowering.


I'm in the same city as Pam - and my blueberries lost their flowers
about a month ago now - and now have many large unripe fruit on them.
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Pam Moore

2005-06-18, 6:25 pm

On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:03:43 +0100, Janet Baraclough
<janet.and.john@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
quote:

>Are you getting blueberry and black currant mixed up? Blackcurrants
>need no pollinator and are setting fruit now, but blueberries are much
>later so I'm surprised you have a heavy crop already. My blueberries are
>only just flowering.

NO Janet. I do know my black currants from my blueberry!
quote:

>
> Janet



Pam in Bristol
Pam Moore

2005-06-18, 6:25 pm

On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:08:49 GMT, Jeff <jeff@theseaside.co.uk> wrote:
quote:

>Janet Baraclough wrote:
>
>There's at least one blueberry that self-pollinates - that's the reason
>I bought mine, unfortunately I can't remember it's name :-(
>
>I've got 2 plants that have cropped heavily for the past 6 years.
>They both set fruit this year about 2 weeks ago (and that's in the NE of
>England!)
>Perhaps you've got the same type as me?
>
>Jeff


Could be. Mine MIGHT be Top Hat, but it might not! The fruit is just
beginning to show a hint of coulour. It is loaded with fruit.

Pam in Bristol
Brian Watson

2005-06-19, 12:25 pm


"Tim Tyler" <tim@tt1lock.org> wrote in message news:IIA8n3.8sM@bath.ac.uk...
quote:

> Janet Baraclough <janet.and.john@zetnet.co.uk> wrote or quoted:

quote:

>
> I'm in the same city as Pam - and my blueberries lost their flowers
> about a month ago now - and now have many large unripe fruit on them.


I have small as-yet unripe fruit on mine (Cambridgeshire).

V pleased with them for the first year of growing them.

--
Brian
"Anyway, if you have been, thanks for listening."


Martin Brown

2005-06-20, 12:25 pm

Janet Baraclough wrote:
quote:

> The message <memo.20050618011422.62497B@net-services.default>
> from root@netservs.com (Steve Harris) contains these words:
>
>
>
>
> Yes, it's in the part of my post you must have forgotrn to read
> before you snipped it.
>
>
> At this time of year?


Yes. Even in North Yorkshire I have a full fruit set on two different
cultivars Bluecrop and Bluejay and they are only marginally behind the
black currants in size. Flowers are all long gone.

They got a torrential watering by thunderstorms yesterday. Fortunately
we live up at the top of a hill so no flooding here. It still punched
out a few bits of road with underground water pressure though.

Regards,
Martin Brown
Steve Harris

2005-06-20, 12:25 pm

In article <313030303930323942B41D5864@zetnet.co.uk>,
janet.and.john@zetnet.co.uk (Janet Baraclough) wrote:
quote:

>
> Yes, it's in the part of my post you must have forgotrn to read
> before you snipped it.


Oh, I read it but I do wonder exactly where the confusion about the
difference between blueberries and blackcurrents lies. The things in my
garden I call blueberries flowered 2 months ago, produce sweet blue
fruits, narrow leaves, brilliant autumn colour, green stems etc. and
were sold to me as blueberry. The idea that anyone could mix them up
with blackcurrents is "LOL"

Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com
A useful bit of gardening software at http://www.netservs.com/garden/
Tim Challenger

2005-06-20, 12:25 pm

On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 13:10:48 +0100, Janet Baraclough wrote:
quote:

> The message <memo.20050618011422.62497B@net-services.default>
> from root@netservs.com (Steve Harris) contains these words:
>
>
>
>
> Yes, it's in the part of my post you must have forgotrn to read
> before you snipped it.
>
>
> At this time of year?
>
> Janet.
>


Yep, mine are well on the way - green but developing a slight bluish blush.
--
Tim C.
Janet Baraclough

2005-06-20, 6:25 pm

The message <memo.20050620105235.43511A@net-services.default>
from root@netservs.com (Steve Harris) contains these words:
quote:

> In article <313030303930323942B41D5864@zetnet.co.uk>,
> janet.and.john@zetnet.co.uk (Janet Baraclough) wrote:

quote:

[vbcol=seagreen]
> Oh, I read it


Then which part of "my blueberries are just flowering" misled you
into that reply?
quote:

> but I do wonder exactly where the confusion about the
> difference between blueberries and blackcurrents lies.


The confusion is in your comprehension skills, it seems.

The things in my
quote:

> garden I call blueberries flowered 2 months ago, produce sweet blue
> fruits, narrow leaves, brilliant autumn colour, green stems etc. and
> were sold to me as blueberry. The idea that anyone could mix them up
> with blackcurrents is "LOL"


Not at all. ISTR, we've had people on urg confuse blackberries and
blaeberries, blackcurrants and bilberries in the past. To the
uninitiated they are all small dark juicy fruit starting with B.

It's very common for people to completely misunderstand what someone
else said (as you have demonstrated twice) , misidentify plants, or
simply call them by the wrong name. Or sometimes, on urg, they think
one word and type another. I've done that myself. Whenever someone here
does that, and one notices or suspects it, it's just polite and friendly
to check it out, as I did.

I don't have any trouble distinguishing blackcurrants and blueberries,
either plant or fruit. Neither does Pam.

It is however highly likely that some reading this group, could not
visually recognise and identify either blueberry or blackcurrant bushes
or fruit. Just as there are people who aren't familiar with the
difference between marrow and pumpkin, french and runner bean, etc.

I hope that is clear enough for you to understand now.

Janet.







undergroundbob

2005-06-20, 6:25 pm


I have bought some this year which are allegedly self-pollinating - Gold
traube (sp?). No idea where they originate from. First berries swelling
up just now, despite the plants looking like not much more than stickes
when they arrived.

Bob


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undergroundbob
Jeff

2005-06-20, 6:25 pm

Well that's you told Steve ;-)

Jeff


Janet Baraclough wrote:
quote:

>
>
> Not at all. ISTR, we've had people on urg confuse blackberries and
> blaeberries, blackcurrants and bilberries in the past. To the
> uninitiated they are all small dark juicy fruit starting with B.
>
> It's very common for people to completely misunderstand what someone
> else said (as you have demonstrated twice) , misidentify plants, or
> simply call them by the wrong name. Or sometimes, on urg, they think
> one word and type another. I've done that myself. Whenever someone here
> does that, and one notices or suspects it, it's just polite and friendly
> to check it out, as I did.
>
> I don't have any trouble distinguishing blackcurrants and blueberries,
> either plant or fruit. Neither does Pam.
>
> It is however highly likely that some reading this group, could not
> visually recognise and identify either blueberry or blackcurrant bushes
> or fruit. Just as there are people who aren't familiar with the
> difference between marrow and pumpkin, french and runner bean, etc.
>
> I hope that is clear enough for you to understand now.
>
> Janet.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Tim Challenger

2005-06-21, 12:25 pm

On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:39:31 +0000, undergroundbob wrote:
quote:

> I have bought some this year which are allegedly self-pollinating - Gold
> traube (sp?). No idea where they originate from. First berries swelling
> up just now, despite the plants looking like not much more than stickes
> when they arrived.
>
> Bob


Sounds like a german variety to me.
I've got only 2 Bluecrop plants and last year (the first year) they
produced maybe a handful each. This year they've got about 10 times as
many.

--
Tim C.
Tim Challenger

2005-06-21, 12:25 pm

On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:03:43 +0100, Janet Baraclough wrote:
quote:

> Are you getting blueberry and black currant mixed up? Blackcurrants
> need no pollinator and are setting fruit now, but blueberries are much
> later so I'm surprised you have a heavy crop already. My blueberries are
> only just flowering.


Be surprised then. They don't all *need* another pollinator. (They may
produce more with one of course) And my two small bushes are laden with
fruit without any other plants in the neighbourhood, still green, but
blueing off nicely.

The first raspberries have been picked, and the first blackcurrants are
ready - still a fair number of unripe ones though. Redcurrants are almost
all red and almost perfectly ripe.

--
Tim C.
Pam Moore

2005-06-21, 12:25 pm

Has anyone dealt with a good mail order supplier of blueberry plants.
Mine came from Parker's and though I've had some disappointments with
them in the past, I'm very pleased with this one.

Pam in Bristol
Pam Moore

2005-06-21, 12:25 pm

On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 20:15:01 GMT, Pam Moore
<NOSpam.moore@NOSPAMvirgin.net> wrote:
quote:

>The lady who runs a blueberry nursery said that you must have 2
>different varieties. Well, I only have one, and it has a heavy crop of
>fruit. No, none of my neighbours grows blueberries. This is the 3rd
>year I have had a good crop.


I found the answer to my own question on the RHS site.....
http://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profil...eberry_care.asp
If I had looked there first we would not have had the info and fun (?)
this thread has generated.
A PS to my question about supliers, does anyone know the name of the
lady on GW last Friday, who exhibited blueberries at the NEC.

Pam in Bristol
Martin Brown

2005-06-21, 12:25 pm

Pam Moore wrote:
quote:

> On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 20:15:01 GMT, Pam Moore
> <NOSpam.moore@NOSPAMvirgin.net> wrote:
>
>
> I found the answer to my own question on the RHS site.....
> http://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profil...eberry_care.asp
> If I had looked there first we would not have had the info and fun (?)
> this thread has generated.


I like their phrase "protecting from birds if necessary".

My experience has been that unless blueberries are netted before they
show the slightest signs of colour the birds will quickly scoff the lot.
Only the redcurrants seem to be immune from birds here.

Incidentally my two year old Jostaberry bush has some fruit this year so
they are also OK to fruit on relatively young plants.

Regards,
Martin Brown
Jaques d'Alltrades

2005-06-21, 12:25 pm

The message <1119342188.e73145e8edf2d6d10d6448ac5a922916@teranews>
from Tim Challenger <tim.challenger@aon.at> contains these words:
quote:

> On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:03:43 +0100, Janet Baraclough wrote:

quote:

[vbcol=seagreen]
> Be surprised then. They don't all *need* another pollinator. (They may
> produce more with one of course) And my two small bushes are laden with
> fruit without any other plants in the neighbourhood, still green, but
> blueing off nicely.

quote:

> The first raspberries have been picked, and the first blackcurrants are
> ready - still a fair number of unripe ones though. Redcurrants are almost
> all red and almost perfectly ripe.


I stopped pulling rhubarb three weeks ago and now have to be careful not
to disturb the heffalumpses and bower constructors when I use the front
gate.

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John the R-T

2005-06-21, 12:25 pm

On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:22:49 GMT, Pam Moore wrote:
quote:

> A PS to my question about supliers, does anyone know the name of the
> lady on GW last Friday, who exhibited blueberries at the NEC.


Can't remember the name but the BBC Gardeners World site says they
visited
The Dorset Blueberry Company
Church Cottages, Hampreston, Wimborne, Dorset BH21 7LX
Tel: 01202 579 368

Web site appears to be
http://www.dorset-blueberry.com/

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Tim Challenger

2005-06-21, 6:25 pm

On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:34:29 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
quote:

> The message <1119342188.e73145e8edf2d6d10d6448ac5a922916@teranews>
> from Tim Challenger <tim.challenger@aon.at> contains these words:
>
>
>
>
> I stopped pulling rhubarb three weeks ago and now have to be careful not
> to disturb the heffalumpses and bower constructors when I use the front
> gate.


:-)
I was chasing fireflies yesterday evening.
--
Tim C.
Kay

2005-06-21, 11:25 pm

In article <d98n6p$25p$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>, Martin Brown <|||newspam
|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> writes
quote:

>
>I like their phrase "protecting from birds if necessary".
>
>My experience has been that unless blueberries are netted before they
>show the slightest signs of colour the birds will quickly scoff the lot.
>Only the redcurrants seem to be immune from birds here.


Whereas in my garden the redcurrants are first to go.
But then I don't grow blueberries. I do however grow loganberries and
tayberries and similar, and it's taken the birds several years to
discover them - even now, they don't take enough to be bothered.
quote:

>

--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

Janet Tweedy

2005-06-23, 12:25 pm

In article <3UA8ltAJIIuCFwFW@scarboro.demon.co.uk>, Kay
<kay@scarboro.demon.co.uk> writes
[vbcol=seagreen]
>Whereas in my garden the redcurrants are first to go.
>But then I don't grow blueberries. I do however grow loganberries and
>tayberries and similar, and it's taken the birds several years to
>discover them - even now, they don't take enough to be bothered.



I seem to recall that blueberries hate chalk so I have a suspicion I'd
be wasting my money trying to grow them in my garden. It's a shame
because I love them.

I was looking for another bush fruit to grow besides blackberries,
blackcurrants, raspberries and gooseberries, so would welcome advice.

Are tayberries better than loganberries?
We like quite sharp fruit so it would be nice to grow something similar
to blueberries if possible.
--
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Kay

2005-06-23, 12:25 pm

In article <LkykAuCfbnuCFwQi@ukonline.co.uk>, Janet Tweedy
<jan@lancedal.demon.co.uk> writes
quote:

>In article <3UA8ltAJIIuCFwFW@scarboro.demon.co.uk>, Kay
><kay@scarboro.demon.co.uk> writes
>
>
>
>
>I seem to recall that blueberries hate chalk so I have a suspicion I'd
>be wasting my money trying to grow them in my garden. It's a shame
>because I love them.
>
>I was looking for another bush fruit to grow besides blackberries,
>blackcurrants, raspberries and gooseberries, so would welcome advice.
>
>Are tayberries better than loganberries?


better in what respect? What is you do not like about loganberries?
quote:

>We like quite sharp fruit so it would be nice to grow something similar
>to blueberries if possible.


--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

Tim Challenger

2005-06-23, 12:25 pm

On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:46:23 +0100, Janet Tweedy wrote:
quote:

> I seem to recall that blueberries hate chalk so I have a suspicion I'd
> be wasting my money trying to grow them in my garden. It's a shame
> because I love them.


Put them in a box or small raised bed filled with rhododendron soil.
--
Tim C.
vsop

2005-06-26, 6:25 pm


"Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.john@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:313030303930323942B348BF80@zetnet.co.uk...[vbcol=seagreen]
> The message <qjb6b15fo2ldf7mossphqhct0nj7gn0ggq@4ax.com>
> from Pam Moore <NOSpam.moore@NOSPAMvirgin.net> contains these words:
>

I bought some plants from that stand at GW at the NEC and the son ( the
firms MD, I think) of the lady owner was giving everyone who asked some
cultivation advice.
He was adamant that a pollinator was necessary, ideally of a different
variety. He said he often heard stories of people with single plants having
excellent crops, but somewhere locally within bee-flying range there must be
another plant which provides the pollen. It could be streets away but there
will be one near somewhere usually unbeknown to the owner.



Jaques d'Alltrades

2005-06-26, 11:25 pm

The message <d9n03u$fgl$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>
from "vsop" <sk.o@btinternet.com> contains these words:
quote:

> I bought some plants from that stand at GW at the NEC and the son ( the
> firms MD, I think) of the lady owner was giving everyone who asked some
> cultivation advice.
> He was adamant that a pollinator was necessary, ideally of a different
> variety. He said he often heard stories of people with single plants
> having
> excellent crops, but somewhere locally within bee-flying range there
> must be
> another plant which provides the pollen. It could be streets away but there
> will be one near somewhere usually unbeknown to the owner.


My bet is that he was wrong to use the word 'all'.

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Tim Tyler

2005-06-27, 6:25 pm

Pam Moore <NOSpam.moore@nospamvirgin.net> wrote or quoted:
quote:

> Has anyone dealt with a good mail order supplier of blueberry plants.
> Mine came from Parker's and though I've had some disappointments with
> them in the past, I'm very pleased with this one.


My first two came from:

The Dorset Blueberry Company http://www.dorset-blueberry.com/

Two large-but-expensive plants - one doing very well - the other
currently looking poorly.

This year I got two more - one from Hedging - http://www.hedging.co.uk/
....and one from Wilkinson - http://www.wilko.co.uk/

The "hedging" one is doing fine - and was /extremely/ inexpensive.

The Wilkinson one was also inexpensive - but was rather small and feeble
to begin with - was put out too early by me - and was demolished by my
slug population.

Of these suppliers, Hedging - http://www.hedging.co.uk/ are the ones
that are most likely to get my custom in the future.
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Pam Moore

2005-06-30, 11:25 pm

Picked and ate my first 4 blueberries today!
Loads more to come.

Pam in Bristol
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