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| Moon~Shadow 2005-09-14, 5:21 am |
| Hi there, I'm hoping someone can help. We have just finished putting slate
around our front garden but a dog keeps fouling on it and a neighbours cat
too. We have put 'scent off' down which works for so long and then it
starts again. We have a fair idea who's dog it is and a neighbour has had a
similar problem and spoke to the owner. I have contacted the council who
say 'we must see it, or take a photo'. The trouble is we never see it
'doing it' but do see it wandering around - it takes itself for a walk each
day (different times). The neighbours cat has never covered its mess and
the neighbours are ones that don't give a hoot. We have a ranch fence down
both sides of the garden and are considering putting mesh over the timbers
to stop the cat from coming through. The bottom part of the front garden is
open and may result in us having more fence/shrubs and a gate put on so the
dog can't get up the path.
I'm loathe to fence the whole garden in but I don't see what else I can do!
When it doesn't foul our garden, it goes to another one but not to the
scruffy overgrown one next door to us but further down the street. I don't
know if ultrasonic devices will work but these cost almost as much as it
would for extra fencing.
Apologies for the long post but getting fed up with it and any
advice/suggestions appreciated.
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>
> I don't
> know if ultrasonic devices will work but these cost almost as much as it
> would for extra fencing.
Yes they do, very well. Very very well. Just move it about a bit over a
couple of weeks
>
> Apologies for the long post but getting fed up with it and any
> advice/suggestions appreciated.
>
>
You will be told by the owners that this subject has been done to death and
you should look up the archives before posting and don't do it again :-((
Ignore them :-))
Mike
Vermin free garden thanks to an electronic vermin gismo :-))))
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| Tumbleweed 2005-09-14, 6:21 am |
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"Moon~Shadow" <Moon~Shadow@ITpersian1995.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dg8k6f$3d6$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Hi there, I'm hoping someone can help. We have just finished putting
> slate around our front garden but a dog keeps fouling on it and a
> neighbours cat too. We have put 'scent off' down which works for so long
> and then it starts again. We have a fair idea who's dog it is and a
> neighbour has had a similar problem and spoke to the owner. I have
> contacted the council who say 'we must see it, or take a photo'. The
> trouble is we never see it 'doing it' but do see it wandering around -
web cam.
>
> I'm loathe to fence the whole garden in but I don't see what else I can
> do! When it doesn't foul our garden, it goes to another one but not to the
> scruffy overgrown one next door to us but further down the street. I
> don't know if ultrasonic devices will work but these cost almost as much
> as it would for extra fencing.
>
Extra fencing for £25? bargain, go for it.
--
Tumbleweed
email replies not necessary but to contact use;
tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com
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| Draven 2005-09-14, 6:21 am |
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"Moon~Shadow" <Moon~Shadow@ITpersian1995.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dg8k6f$3d6$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Hi there, I'm hoping someone can help. We have just finished putting
> slate around our front garden but a dog keeps fouling on it and a
> neighbours cat too. We have put 'scent off' down which works for so long
> and then it starts again. We have a fair idea who's dog it is and a
> neighbour has had a similar problem and spoke to the owner. I have
> contacted the council who say 'we must see it, or take a photo'. The
> trouble is we never see it 'doing it' but do see it wandering around - it
> takes itself for a walk each day (different times). The neighbours cat
> has never covered its mess and the neighbours are ones that don't give a
> hoot. We have a ranch fence down both sides of the garden and are
> considering putting mesh over the timbers to stop the cat from coming
> through. The bottom part of the front garden is open and may result in us
> having more fence/shrubs and a gate put on so the dog can't get up the
> path.
>
> I'm loathe to fence the whole garden in but I don't see what else I can
> do! When it doesn't foul our garden, it goes to another one but not to the
> scruffy overgrown one next door to us but further down the street. I
> don't know if ultrasonic devices will work but these cost almost as much
> as it would for extra fencing.
>
> Apologies for the long post but getting fed up with it and any
> advice/suggestions appreciated.
Spray the area with an Aluminium Ammonium Sulphate solution. it's 10.4g/L.
(You can buy it in the shops I think it's called animal repellent).
Keeps most animals at bay and works great for rabbit damage.
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| I have found that tea bags soaked in Jayes Fluid can prevent foxes and cats
fouling particular areas. It cheap and simple.
cheers
Davy
"Moon~Shadow" <Moon~Shadow@ITpersian1995.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dg8k6f$3d6$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Hi there, I'm hoping someone can help. We have just finished putting
slate
> around our front garden but a dog keeps fouling on it and a neighbours cat
> too. We have put 'scent off' down which works for so long and then it
> starts again. We have a fair idea who's dog it is and a neighbour has had
a
> similar problem and spoke to the owner. I have contacted the council who
> say 'we must see it, or take a photo'. The trouble is we never see it
> 'doing it' but do see it wandering around - it takes itself for a walk
each
> day (different times). The neighbours cat has never covered its mess and
> the neighbours are ones that don't give a hoot. We have a ranch fence
down
> both sides of the garden and are considering putting mesh over the timbers
> to stop the cat from coming through. The bottom part of the front garden
is
> open and may result in us having more fence/shrubs and a gate put on so
the
> dog can't get up the path.
>
> I'm loathe to fence the whole garden in but I don't see what else I can
do!
> When it doesn't foul our garden, it goes to another one but not to the
> scruffy overgrown one next door to us but further down the street. I
don't
> know if ultrasonic devices will work but these cost almost as much as it
> would for extra fencing.
>
> Apologies for the long post but getting fed up with it and any
> advice/suggestions appreciated.
>
>
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| mike_lincs@yahoo.co.uk 2005-09-14, 9:21 am |
| quote 'You will be told by the owners that this subject has been done
to death and
you should look up the archives before posting and don't do it again
:-((
Ignore them :-)) '
There are no owners of this newsgroup, it is a public one and
unmoderated, but there are a number of FAQs and one is to do with cats
and dogs, can't remember how to access them, but someone will. However,
neither you, nor the council, nor the owners of the cats can do, or be
forced to do anything about the cat mess. Cats are classed as 'wild'
animals, and as such are subject to no laws or bye-laws. Dogs are a
different mattter and owners are responsible.
Mike
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| > Cats are classed as 'wild'
> animals, and as such are subject to no laws or bye-laws.
and as vermin can be shot, skinned, cooked and eaten. Tastes like Rabbit
Mike
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| Tumbleweed 2005-09-14, 10:21 am |
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<mike_lincs@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1126699746.647341.258130@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> quote 'You will be told by the owners that this subject has been done
> to death and
> you should look up the archives before posting and don't do it again
> :-((
>
> Ignore them :-)) '
>
> There are no owners of this newsgroup, it is a public one and
> unmoderated, but there are a number of FAQs and one is to do with cats
> and dogs, can't remember how to access them, but someone will. However,
> neither you, nor the council, nor the owners of the cats can do, or be
> forced to do anything about the cat mess. Cats are classed as 'wild'
> animals, and as such are subject to no laws or bye-laws. Dogs are a
> different mattter and owners are responsible.
>
> Mike
When my new nighbours dog crapped on my parking area I gathered the crap up
in a bag and took it round to them ..havent seen the dog in the road since
:-)
--
Tumbleweed
email replies not necessary but to contact use;
tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com
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| Bob Smith 2005-09-14, 11:21 am |
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"Davy" <david@REMOVETHISchobham.org.uk> wrote in message
news:gb-dnZswwo1dcbreRVnyvg@brightview.com...
>I have found that tea bags soaked in Jayes Fluid can prevent foxes and cats
> fouling particular areas. It cheap and simple.
>
I found the most massive "cat present" right next to one of my jeyes tea
bags, as if to say "I will do it where I want matey".
None of the smelly methods worked. Nylon mesh was dug up. All I did get to
work was chilli powder, but you have to replace it when it rains, and it
looks like you have martian soil around your garden.
Bob
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| martin 2005-09-14, 11:21 am |
| On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:10:27 +0100, "Tumbleweed"
<thisaccountneverread@yahoo.com> wrote:
>When my new nighbours dog crapped on my parking area I gathered the crap up
>in a bag and took it round to them ..havent seen the dog in the road since
>:-)
Isn't the classic trick to put it in a thin paper bag, put bag on
neighbour's front door step, set bag alight, ring door bell and run?
--
Martin
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| German inventor's "cat fuel" angers animal lovers Wednesday September 14,
02:43 PM
BERLIN (Reuters) - A German inventor has angered animal rights activists
with his answer to fighting the soaring cost of fuel -- dead cats.
Christian Koch, 55, from the eastern county of Saxony, told Bild newspaper
that his organic diesel fuel -- a home-made blend of garbage, run-over cats,
and other ingredients -- is a proven alternative to normal consumer diesel.
"I drive my normal diesel-powered car with this mixture," Koch said. "I have
gone 170,000 km (106,000 miles) without
a problem."
The website of Koch's firm, "Alphakat GmbH", says his patented "KDV 500"
machine can produce what he calls the "bio-diesel" fuel at about 23 euro
cents (30 cents) a litre, which is about one-fifth the price at petrol
stations now.
Koch said around 20 dead cats added into the mix could help produce enough
fuel to fill up a 50-litre (11 gallon) tank.
But the president of the German Society for the Protection of Animals,
Wolfgang Apel, said using dead cats for fuel was illegal.
"There's no danger for cats and dogs in Germany because this practice is
outlawed in Germany," Apel told Bild on Wednesday in a story entitled "Can
you really make fuel out of cats?"
"We're going to keep an eye on this case," Apel said.
"Moon~Shadow" <Moon~Shadow@ITpersian1995.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dg8k6f$3d6$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Hi there, I'm hoping someone can help. We have just finished putting
slate
> around our front garden but a dog keeps fouling on it and a neighbours cat
> too. We have put 'scent off' down which works for so long and then it
> starts again. We have a fair idea who's dog it is and a neighbour has had
a
> similar problem and spoke to the owner. I have contacted the council who
> say 'we must see it, or take a photo'. The trouble is we never see it
> 'doing it' but do see it wandering around - it takes itself for a walk
each
> day (different times). The neighbours cat has never covered its mess and
> the neighbours are ones that don't give a hoot. We have a ranch fence
down
> both sides of the garden and are considering putting mesh over the timbers
> to stop the cat from coming through. The bottom part of the front garden
is
> open and may result in us having more fence/shrubs and a gate put on so
the
> dog can't get up the path.
>
> I'm loathe to fence the whole garden in but I don't see what else I can
do!
> When it doesn't foul our garden, it goes to another one but not to the
> scruffy overgrown one next door to us but further down the street. I
don't
> know if ultrasonic devices will work but these cost almost as much as it
> would for extra fencing.
>
> Apologies for the long post but getting fed up with it and any
> advice/suggestions appreciated.
>
>
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| Bob Smith 2005-09-14, 4:21 pm |
|
"Mike" <not@here.thank.you> wrote in message
news:dg9fmk$p4p$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
> German inventor's "cat fuel" angers animal lovers Wednesday September 14,
> 02:43 PM
> BERLIN (Reuters) - A German inventor has angered animal rights activists
> with his answer to fighting the soaring cost of fuel -- dead cats.
>
>
> Christian Koch, 55, from the eastern county of Saxony, told Bild newspaper
> that his organic diesel fuel -- a home-made blend of garbage, run-over
> cats,
> and other ingredients -- is a proven alternative to normal consumer
> diesel.
>
>
> "I drive my normal diesel-powered car with this mixture," Koch said. "I
> have
> gone 170,000 km (106,000 miles) without
> a problem."
>
>
> The website of Koch's firm, "Alphakat GmbH", says his patented "KDV 500"
> machine can produce what he calls the "bio-diesel" fuel at about 23 euro
> cents (30 cents) a litre, which is about one-fifth the price at petrol
> stations now.
>
>
> Koch said around 20 dead cats added into the mix could help produce enough
> fuel to fill up a 50-litre (11 gallon) tank.
>
>
> But the president of the German Society for the Protection of Animals,
> Wolfgang Apel, said using dead cats for fuel was illegal.
>
>
> "There's no danger for cats and dogs in Germany because this practice is
> outlawed in Germany," Apel told Bild on Wednesday in a story entitled "Can
> you really make fuel out of cats?"
>
>
> "We're going to keep an eye on this case," Apel said.
>
>
They have a specific law to stop people turning roadkill cats into
biodiesel? Sad people. Maybe it is better having them rot in the streets.
Bob
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| undergroundbob 2005-09-14, 5:21 pm |
|
When my new nighbours dog crapped on my parking area I gathered the crap
up
in a bag and took it round to them ..havent seen the dog in the road
since
:-)
Like it!
Or you could always kick said dog up the arse. Just the once like.
Bob
--
undergroundbob
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| H Ryder 2005-09-14, 6:21 pm |
| >The neighbours cat has never covered its mess and the neighbours are ones
that don't >give a hoot. We have a ranch fence down
> both sides of the garden and are considering putting mesh over the timbers
> to stop the cat from coming through.
in their defence there is not a lot your neighbours can do to stop their cat
(speaking as a cat owner here  ). Also a fence will not work. The cat
will just climb it. The best things to try are water attempt to drench teh
cat with jugs, water pistols, a hose etc, preferably when they can't see
you. this usually works. The other thing I've found works in pepper dust.
Hayley
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| June Hughes 2005-09-14, 6:21 pm |
| In message <dg8k6f$3d6$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk>, Moon~Shadow
<Moon~Shadow@ITpersian1995.freeserve.co.uk> writes
>Hi there, I'm hoping someone can help. We have just finished putting slate
>around our front garden but a dog keeps fouling on it and a neighbours cat
>too. We have put 'scent off' down which works for so long and then it
>starts again. We have a fair idea who's dog it is and a neighbour has had a
>similar problem and spoke to the owner. I have contacted the council who
>say 'we must see it, or take a photo'. The trouble is we never see it
>'doing it' but do see it wandering around - it takes itself for a walk each
>day (different times). The neighbours cat has never covered its mess and
>the neighbours are ones that don't give a hoot. We have a ranch fence down
>both sides of the garden and are considering putting mesh over the timbers
>to stop the cat from coming through. The bottom part of the front garden is
>open and may result in us having more fence/shrubs and a gate put on so the
>dog can't get up the path.
>
>I'm loathe to fence the whole garden in but I don't see what else I can do!
>When it doesn't foul our garden, it goes to another one but not to the
>scruffy overgrown one next door to us but further down the street. I don't
>know if ultrasonic devices will work but these cost almost as much as it
>would for extra fencing.
>
>Apologies for the long post but getting fed up with it and any
>advice/suggestions appreciated.
>
>
Buy a good quality water pistol. Works wonders, does no harm to the
animals and is really satisfying for you.
--
June Hughes
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| Alan Holmes 2005-09-14, 7:21 pm |
|
"Tumbleweed" <thisaccountneverread@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Moon~Shadow" <Moon~Shadow@ITpersian1995.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:dg8k6f$3d6$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk...
>
> web cam.
>
>
> Extra fencing for £25? bargain, go for it.
Won't help with the cats though, cats can scale very tall fences.
Alan
>
> --
> Tumbleweed
>
> email replies not necessary but to contact use;
> tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com
>
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| Moon~Shadow 2005-09-15, 4:21 am |
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"Alan Holmes" <alan.holmes@virgin.net> wrote in message
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> Won't help with the cats though, cats can scale very tall fences.
>
> Alan
I'm only talking of one cat and it is very overweight and so lazy I don't
think it can even jump a fence!
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| Moon~Shadow 2005-09-15, 4:21 am |
|
"H Ryder" <hayley.ryderNOSPAM@tesco.net> wrote in message
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> that don't >give a hoot. We have a ranch fence down
>
> in their defence there is not a lot your neighbours can do to stop their
> cat
> (speaking as a cat owner here ). Also a fence will not work. The cat
> will just climb it. The best things to try are water attempt to drench
> teh
> cat with jugs, water pistols, a hose etc, preferably when they can't see
> you. this usually works. The other thing I've found works in pepper dust.
> Hayley
>
The cat has a litter tray just inside the house but it is that small and the
cat is so fat, it is more appropriate for a kitten! If I tried using water
my neighbours have 'mouths' the size of the Mersey and would take great
pleasure in shouting the odds down the street. The cat squeezes through the
fence and putting mesh up would stop it as it is too lazy to do anything
else!
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| > >>
>
> Won't help with the cats though, cats can scale very tall fences.
>
> Alan
>
Only the once if you put carpet gripper strips along the top :-)))
Mike
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| In article <1126699746.647341.258130@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
mike_lincs@yahoo.co.uk <mike_lincs@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>quote 'You will be told by the owners that this subject has been done
>to death and
>you should look up the archives before posting and don't do it again
>:-((
>
>Ignore them :-)) '
>
>There are no owners of this newsgroup, it is a public one and
>unmoderated, but there are a number of FAQs and one is to do with cats
>and dogs, can't remember how to access them, but someone will. However,
>neither you, nor the council, nor the owners of the cats can do, or be
>forced to do anything about the cat mess. Cats are classed as 'wild'
>animals, and as such are subject to no laws or bye-laws. Dogs are a
>different mattter and owners are responsible.
>
Owners should be responsible for their pets though, whatever they are.
--
David
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| June Hughes 2005-09-15, 5:21 am |
| In message <1126699746.647341.258130@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"mike_lincs@yahoo.co.uk" <mike_lincs@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>quote 'You will be told by the owners that this subject has been done
>to death and
>you should look up the archives before posting and don't do it again
>:-((
>
>Ignore them :-)) '
>
>There are no owners of this newsgroup, it is a public one and
>unmoderated, but there are a number of FAQs and one is to do with cats
>and dogs, can't remember how to access them, but someone will. However,
>neither you, nor the council, nor the owners of the cats can do, or be
>forced to do anything about the cat mess. Cats are classed as 'wild'
>animals, and as such are subject to no laws or bye-laws. Dogs are a
>different mattter and owners are responsible.
>
Hello Mike. I didn't know you subscribed here. I agree with you but it
is annoying to have neighbours' cats in the garden. As well as a water
pistol, I would recommend anyone with problems to get a cat of their
own. That should keep out the neighbouring moggies. As you say, we have
been through this before - many, many times over the years.
--
June Hughes
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| mike_lincs@yahoo.co.uk 2005-09-15, 6:21 am |
| Sorry, they are classed as 'wild' not 'vermin' and cannot be shot like
that. You are, legally, not allowed to put your own cat down if it is
ill (or dog), it must be done by a vet.
Mike
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| Bob Smith 2005-09-15, 12:21 pm |
|
<mike_lincs@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1126772277.928934.289060@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Sorry, they are classed as 'wild' not 'vermin' and cannot be shot like
> that. You are, legally, not allowed to put your own cat down if it is
> ill (or dog), it must be done by a vet.
>
> Mike
>
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=e...%3Avermin&meta=
They are filthy, destructive and troublesome. Sounds like vermin to me.
Bob
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|
| > >
> Hello Mike. I didn't know you subscribed here.
Yes, the owners don't like it because I speak my mind :-)) They are unable
to 'Rule' over me. Tough.
> I agree with you but it
> is annoying to have neighbours' cats in the garden. As well as a water
> pistol, I would recommend anyone with problems to get a cat of their
> own. That should keep out the neighbouring moggies. As you say, we have
> been through this before - many, many times over the years.
and it just goes to show what a nuisance the vermin is. Those who own the
damn things can see no wrong in their stupid creatures and think that the
sun shines from somewhere it doesn't. But the thing that puzzles me about
such owners, is why do they have more than one? Nearly all of them have
multiple creatures. I suppose it is so they can annoy more neighbours. If
their creatures are inconsiderate, then it must be a reflection on their
'owners', also inconsiderate.
Watch the owners of this newsgroup spit fire now :-)))))))))))
Mike
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| Tumbleweed 2005-09-15, 1:21 pm |
|
"Mike" <not@here.thank.you> wrote in message
news:dgc3rh$ntb$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>
> Yes, the owners don't like it because I speak my mind :-)) They are unable
> to 'Rule' over me. Tough.
>
owners?????
--
Tumbleweed
email replies not necessary but to contact use;
tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com
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| > >
unable[color=darkred]
>
> owners?????
>
Those who feel that they have more right than anyone else, and carry out
long pally pally chit chat with their friends, which could quite easily go
to email, but no, we have to show we have been here a long time and have
more rights than anyone else :-(( not.
Stick around and they will pop up and take a shot at me, EVEN THOUGH THEY
HAVE KILLFILED ME :-)))) NOT
Mike
:-))))))
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| June Hughes 2005-09-15, 2:21 pm |
| In message <dgc53j$iva$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>, Mike
<not@here.thank.you> writes
>unable
>
>Those who feel that they have more right than anyone else, and carry out
>long pally pally chit chat with their friends, which could quite easily go
>to email, but no, we have to show we have been here a long time and have
>more rights than anyone else :-(( not.
>
>Stick around and they will pop up and take a shot at me, EVEN THOUGH THEY
>HAVE KILLFILED ME :-)))) NOT
>
>Mike
>:-))))))
>
>
Are you really Dave Fawthrop?
--
June Hughes
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"June Hughes" <junehughes@theacct.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:LGsZ7DnBKaKDFwGJ@theacct.demon.co.uk...
> In message <dgc53j$iva$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>, Mike
> <not@here.thank.you> writes
go[color=darkred]
> Are you really Dave Fawthrop?
> --
> June Hughes
I never use other names.
I am me. :-))
Take me or leave me.
What you see, is what you get.
A very large circle of friends are happy with me, only the poor owners who I
refuse to bow to have a problem, but that is THEIR problem :-))
:-))
Mike
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| Flower Bobdew 2005-09-15, 3:21 pm |
|
Well, as no-one else has mentioned it - and it doesn't appear in the FAQ
I looked at either [yes, clearly this is a common problem!]...
I've just [past two months] tried Silent Roar - bought from the local
garden centre - which is, effectively, lion shite. I don't know how they
know, but wee domestic moggies, seemingly, don't like the thought of
bumping into a lion, even under the cover of darkness!
Its worked well in the back garden, but the front will be a good test
too. I only have a couple of relatively small beds within a large
grassed area [shared with next door] out there, and the constant piling
up of the bark mulch that greets me most mornings' means the lions will
soon be let loose.
Now... About these damned moles... Who clearly aren't afraid of the odd,
rogue lion!!! : 7
--
Flower Bobdew
South Facing Garden
South West: UK
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| In article <dgc3rh$ntb$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>, Mike
<not@here.thank.you> writes
>
>Yes, the owners don't like it because I speak my mind :-)) They are unable
>to 'Rule' over me. Tough.
>
Wasn't June replying to Mike from Lincs? you've a grand opinion of
yourself though
>
>and it just goes to show what a nuisance the vermin is. Those who own the
>damn things can see no wrong in their stupid creatures and think that the
>sun shines from somewhere it doesn't. But the thing that puzzles me about
>such owners, is why do they have more than one? Nearly all of them have
>multiple creatures. I suppose it is so they can annoy more neighbours. If
>their creatures are inconsiderate, then it must be a reflection on their
>'owners', also inconsiderate.
>
>Watch the owners of this newsgroup spit fire now :-)))))))))))
>
>Mike
>
>
>
>
--
David
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|
|
"David" <david@chapellhouse.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:yujkKVAbycKDFwjg@chapelhouse.demon.co.uk...
> In article <dgc3rh$ntb$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>, Mike
> <not@here.thank.you> writes
unable[color=darkred]
> Wasn't June replying to Mike from Lincs? you've a grand opinion of
> yourself though
Oh!! Someone else who doesn't like me saying how it is. Poor you :-((
That's almost a handful now :-)
| |
| Jack Ouzzi 2005-09-15, 5:21 pm |
|
Davy wrote:
> I have found that tea bags soaked in Jayes Fluid can prevent foxes and cats
> fouling particular areas. It cheap and simple.
>
> cheers
>
> Davy
Tried that Davy, but the tea tastes bloody awful ;-)
| |
|
|
mike_lincs@yahoo.co.uk Wrote:
> Sorry, they are classed as 'wild' not 'vermin' and cannot be shot like
> that. You are, legally, not allowed to put your own cat down if it is
> ill (or dog), it must be done by a vet.
>
> Mike
Hi Mike,
Are you allowed to exterminate someone elses cat?
Cheers
Drew
--
Drew
| |
|
| In article <dgcj8t$km1$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>, Mike
<not@here.thank.you> writes
>
>"David" <david@chapellhouse.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:yujkKVAbycKDFwjg@chapelhouse.demon.co.uk...
>unable
>
>Oh!! Someone else who doesn't like me saying how it is. Poor you :-((
>
>That's almost a handful now :-)
>
I only pointed out that I think June was replying to Mike from Lincs
before your ego got in the way, but for the record I've always thought
you to be a bit of an arse ever since you posted the nonsense about
having to resign as a councillor so you could fight private battles.
--
David
| |
|
| > >
> I only pointed out that I think June was replying to Mike from Lincs
> before your ego got in the way, but for the record I've always thought
> you to be a bit of an arse ever since you posted the nonsense about
> having to resign as a councillor so you could fight private battles.
>
> --
> David
Not nonsense at all. If I want action I get it. I was 'tied' as a
councillor. And BTW, get your facts right, I didn't resign, I just didn't
stand at the next Elections. There is a bit of a difference.
The amount of pratts on this newsgroup is quite amazing, where do you all
come from? Why do you control freaks come onto this newsgroup?
This newsgroup and gardening would be such a wonderful thing if you were to
take your fingers off the 'I am in charge' button.
| |
|
| In article <dgcptv$hv5$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>, Mike
<not@here.thank.you> writes
>
>Not nonsense at all. If I want action I get it. I was 'tied' as a
>councillor. And BTW, get your facts right, I didn't resign, I just didn't
>stand at the next Elections. There is a bit of a difference.
>
>The amount of pratts on this newsgroup is quite amazing, where do you all
>come from? Why do you control freaks come onto this newsgroup?
>
>This newsgroup and gardening would be such a wonderful thing if you were to
>take your fingers off the 'I am in charge' button.
>
Mike, you really do need to get a life
--
David
| |
|
| > >
> Mike, you really do need to get a life
>
> --
> David
????????
You have my deepest sympathy for you problem. I should try and change your
life style if I were you, it might clear your problem up.
Have a nice day ........ if you can.
Mike
| |
| Bob Smith 2005-09-16, 5:21 am |
|
"Mike" <not@here.thank.you> wrote in message
news:dg96fk$leo$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>
> and as vermin can be shot, skinned, cooked and eaten. Tastes like Rabbit
>
> Mike
>
>
Got any recipes?
Bob
| |
|
|
"Bob Smith" <bob@nospamplease> wrote in message
news:432a778f_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>
> "Mike" <not@here.thank.you> wrote in message
> news:dg96fk$leo$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
> Got any recipes?
>
> Bob
>
>
As I understand it Bob you just treat it as Rabbit. The fur can be used as a
fur trim on slippers etc
Mike
| |
| Bob Smith 2005-09-16, 6:21 am |
|
"Mike" <not@here.thank.you> wrote in message
news:dgdtn4$eig$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>
> "Bob Smith" <bob@nospamplease> wrote in message
> news:432a778f_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>
> As I understand it Bob you just treat it as Rabbit. The fur can be used as
> a
> fur trim on slippers etc
>
Or a small rug...
Bob
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|
|
"Bob Smith" <bob@nospamplease> wrote in message
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>
> "Mike" <not@here.thank.you> wrote in message
> news:dgdtn4$eig$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
as[color=darkred]
> Or a small rug...
>
> Bob
>
>
Two cats would make a pair of slippers :-))
Mike
| |
| Bob Smith 2005-09-16, 7:21 am |
|
"Mike" <not@here.thank.you> wrote in message
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>
> "Bob Smith" <bob@nospamplease> wrote in message
> news:432a80e3_3@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> as
> Two cats would make a pair of slippers :-))
>
> Mike
>
>
http://www.loko.ch/creative_corner/catslippers.gif
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|
|
"Bob Smith" <bob@nospamplease> wrote in message
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>
> "Mike" <not@here.thank.you> wrote in message
> news:dgdvnd$e0b$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
used[color=darkred]
>
> http://www.loko.ch/creative_corner/catslippers.gif
>
>
Now there's a good use for cats :-)) The first one yet
Mike
| |
| Jupiter 2005-09-16, 2:21 pm |
| On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 11:38:18 +0000 (UTC), "Mike" <not@here.thank.you>
wrote:
>
>"Bob Smith" <bob@nospamplease> wrote in message
>news:432a9b5e$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>used
>
>Now there's a good use for cats :-)) The first one yet
>
>Mike
>
The Theft Act 1968 - it is an offence to steal a cat
The Protection of Animals Act 1911 as extended by later legislation -
it is an offence to cruelly ill-treat, beat, kick, infuriate, carry or
convey in a manner which causes unnecessary suffering, commit any act
that will cause unnecessary suffering, abandon or cause to be
abandoned any cat or kitten and to cause anyone to do any of these.
Criminal Damage Act 1971 - Any person who destroys or damages, or
threatens to destroy or damage a cat belonging to another person may
be committing an offence under this Act.
Because cats fall outside of the definitions of cattle or livestock
under the Animals Act 1971 they cannot be held guilty of trespass
under civil law and their owners therefore cannot be held liable for
damage.
There are also laws which could, in the right circumstances, protect
you from the nuisance of cats:
The Environmental Protection Act 1990 - proceedings can be brought
when, in the opinion of the local authority, there is a statutory
nuisance caused by an animal kept in such a place or manner as to be
prejudicial to health or a nuisance.
The Public Health Act 1936 - A local authority can make bye-laws
preventing the keeping of animals so as to be prejudicial to health.
| |
| Bob Smith 2005-09-16, 4:21 pm |
|
"Jupiter" <Jupiter@shotmail.com> wrote in message
news:mhsli1h31jbumbv6st78g6v6jvqthpiu2k@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 11:38:18 +0000 (UTC), "Mike" <not@here.thank.you>
> wrote:
>
> The Theft Act 1968 - it is an offence to steal a cat
Cats are not property. When dogs were licensed you had to inform the owner
if you ran one over - not so with a cat.
> The Protection of Animals Act 1911 as extended by later legislation -
> it is an offence to cruelly ill-treat, beat, kick, infuriate, carry or
> convey in a manner which causes unnecessary suffering, commit any act
> that will cause unnecessary suffering, abandon or cause to be
> abandoned any cat or kitten and to cause anyone to do any of these.
It specifically mentions cats? What about rats and mice, who have poisons
specifically made and openly marketed for them? I would think a humane
dispatch of a cat would be within the above mentioned law.
> Criminal Damage Act 1971 - Any person who destroys or damages, or
> threatens to destroy or damage a cat belonging to another person may
> be committing an offence under this Act.
Again, I doubt cats were mentioned at all in this case, although they are
animals, and would come under animal protection laws.
>
> Because cats fall outside of the definitions of cattle or livestock
> under the Animals Act 1971 they cannot be held guilty of trespass
> under civil law and their owners therefore cannot be held liable for
> damage.
>
> There are also laws which could, in the right circumstances, protect
> you from the nuisance of cats:
>
> The Environmental Protection Act 1990 - proceedings can be brought
> when, in the opinion of the local authority, there is a statutory
> nuisance caused by an animal kept in such a place or manner as to be
> prejudicial to health or a nuisance.
>
> The Public Health Act 1936 - A local authority can make bye-laws
> preventing the keeping of animals so as to be prejudicial to health.
>
As far as I am concerned, if it is a pet, it should be under control. Keep
it on a lead, or in the house, otherwise it is a stray. The old witch near
me with 7 cats and no litter tray is a threat to human health, since her
cats use my garden as a toilet.
Bob
| |
|
| >
> As far as I am concerned, if it is a pet, it should be under control.
Keep
> it on a lead, or in the house, otherwise it is a stray. The old witch
near
> me with 7 cats and no litter tray is a threat to human health, since her
> cats use my garden as a toilet.
>
> Bob
>
>
7 cats? 3 pairs of slippers and a spare :-))
and off course 7 Rabbit look alike pies :-))
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| Bob Smith 2005-09-16, 4:21 pm |
|
"Mike" <not@here.thank.you> wrote in message
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> Keep
> near
>
> 7 cats? 3 pairs of slippers and a spare :-))
>
I think you might trip on the tails, kinda like having your laces untied.
> and off course 7 Rabbit look alike pies :-))
>
>
And 28 authentic immitation lucky rabbit's feet. <salesman> Ginger rabbits
are especially lucky </salesman>
Bob
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| Jupiter 2005-09-17, 5:21 am |
| On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 19:33:26 +0100, "Bob Smith" <bob@nospamplease>
wrote:
>
>"Jupiter" <Jupiter@shotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:mhsli1h31jbumbv6st78g6v6jvqthpiu2k@4ax.com...
>
>Cats are not property. When dogs were licensed you had to inform the owner
>if you ran one over - not so with a cat.
>
>
>It specifically mentions cats? What about rats and mice, who have poisons
>specifically made and openly marketed for them? I would think a humane
>dispatch of a cat would be within the above mentioned law.
>
>
>Again, I doubt cats were mentioned at all in this case, although they are
>animals, and would come under animal protection laws.
>
>
>As far as I am concerned, if it is a pet, it should be under control. Keep
>it on a lead, or in the house, otherwise it is a stray. The old witch near
>me with 7 cats and no litter tray is a threat to human health, since her
>cats use my garden as a toilet.
>
>Bob
>
People inclined to steal, treat cruelly, kill or otherwise illtreat
domestic cats should not rely upon your version of the law as being
reliable or authorative.
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| Alan Holmes 2005-09-17, 4:21 pm |
|
"Mike" <not@here.thank.you> wrote in message
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>
> Only the once if you put carpet gripper strips along the top :-)))
ROTFL
Alan
>
> Mike
>
>
| |
| Alan Holmes 2005-09-17, 4:21 pm |
|
"Tumbleweed" <thisaccountneverread@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3otj03F7nsg5U1@individual.net...
>
> "Mike" <not@here.thank.you> wrote in message
> news:dgc3rh$ntb$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>
> owners?????
I have always been under the impression that it was the cats who owned the
people who feed them!
Alan
>
> --
> Tumbleweed
>
> email replies not necessary but to contact use;
> tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com
>
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| Alan Holmes 2005-09-17, 4:21 pm |
|
"Mike" <not@here.thank.you> wrote in message
news:dgca6j$2oa$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>
> "June Hughes" <junehughes@theacct.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:LGsZ7DnBKaKDFwGJ@theacct.demon.co.uk...
> go
>
> I never use other names.
> I am me. :-))
> Take me or leave me.
> What you see, is what you get.
> A very large circle of friends are happy with me, only the poor owners who
> I
> refuse to bow to have a problem, but that is THEIR problem :-))
If you are so upset about the 'owners' of this newsgroup, why do you bother
to read it, it only seems to serve to get your ire up, and that could be
dangerous to your health?
Alan
>
> :-))
> Mike
>
>
| |
| Alan Holmes 2005-09-17, 4:21 pm |
|
"Mike" <not@here.thank.you> wrote in message
news:dgcj8t$km1$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>
> "David" <david@chapellhouse.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:yujkKVAbycKDFwjg@chapelhouse.demon.co.uk...
> unable
>
> Oh!! Someone else who doesn't like me saying how it is. Poor you :-((
I'm begining to wonder whether it's your over inflated ego which is causing
you problems.
Alan
>
> That's almost a handful now :-)
>
>
| |
|
| I'm not upset :-))
They are the ones who get all irate :-))
Mike
Om Shanti ;-))
(They will have a go at me now for top posting :-))
"Alan Holmes" <alan.holmes@virgin.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Mike" <not@here.thank.you> wrote in message
> news:dgca6j$2oa$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
are[color=darkred]
out[color=darkred]
easily[color=darkred]
have[color=darkred]
who[color=darkred]
>
> If you are so upset about the 'owners' of this newsgroup, why do you
bother
> to read it, it only seems to serve to get your ire up, and that could be
> dangerous to your health?
>
> Alan
>
>
>
| |
| Alan Holmes 2005-09-17, 5:21 pm |
|
"Mike" <not@here.thank.you> wrote in message
news:dgcptv$hv5$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>
> Not nonsense at all. If I want action I get it. I was 'tied' as a
> councillor. And BTW, get your facts right, I didn't resign, I just didn't
> stand at the next Elections. There is a bit of a difference.
>
> The amount of pratts on this newsgroup is quite amazing, where do you all
> come from? Why do you control freaks come onto this newsgroup?
>
> This newsgroup and gardening would be such a wonderful thing if you were
> to
> take your fingers off the 'I am in charge' button.
From your recent rants, it would seem to me that you want _your_ hand on the
'I am in charge' button!
Alan
>
>
>
| |
|
| Problems?
Not me Sir :-))
Tis the others, you watch :-))))
"Alan Holmes" <alan.holmes@virgin.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Mike" <not@here.thank.you> wrote in message
> news:dgcj8t$km1$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>
> I'm begining to wonder whether it's your over inflated ego which is
causing
> you problems.
>
> Alan
>
>
>
| |
| Harold Walker 2005-09-17, 5:21 pm |
|
[color=darkred]
Well spoken...stay with it and be happy and to those that would wish you to
be otherwise to H... with 'em.......Harold[color=darkred]
>
| |
|
| Not at all!! But I don't want others, on a free newsgroup telling me what to
do just because they 'have been here longer'
Sit around and you will see them respond with a load of crap and then they
will have a chatty chatty conversation on the newsgroup, conversation which
could quite well be done by email or picking the telephone up.
:-))
"Alan Holmes" <alan.holmes@virgin.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Mike" <not@here.thank.you> wrote in message
> news:dgcptv$hv5$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
didn't[color=darkred]
all[color=darkred]
>
> From your recent rants, it would seem to me that you want _your_ hand on
the
> 'I am in charge' button!
>
> Alan
>
>
>
| |
| Alan Holmes 2005-09-17, 5:21 pm |
|
"Bob Smith" <bob@nospamplease> wrote in message
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>
> <mike_lincs@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1126772277.928934.289060@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=e...%3Avermin&meta=
>
> They are filthy, destructive and troublesome. Sounds like vermin to me.
Isn't that odd, I was begining to think you are vermin.
Alan
>
> Bob
>
| |
| Alan Holmes 2005-09-17, 5:21 pm |
|
"Drew" <Drew.1vf283@gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Drew.1vf283@gardenbanter.co.uk...
>
> mike_lincs@yahoo.co.uk Wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> Are you allowed to exterminate someone elses cat?
No!
>
> Cheers
>
> Drew
>
>
> --
> Drew
| |
|
| Thank you Harold I will. I have a vast circle of friends in different walks
of life and they all know where they stand with me. I have just extended
that circle by joining others on a cruise forum and had the pleasure of
meeting a whole load of them at a party in High Wycombe this time last
Saturday night. It was such a success that many of us have booked to go on a
cruise together, 18 at present, fly out to Bermuda to join the ship, visit,
St Lucia, (will be there in the new year at the start of a World Cruise) St
Kitts, Granada, Antigua, Madeira and back into Southampton :-)) Last
Saturday was a six hour party, this next one is a 14 day party :-)) And no
one is a control freak and has 'been here the longest' and not a Net Nanny
in sight :-)) we are all equal :-))
Mike
:-))
"Harold Walker" <middleton.walker@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:T_ednWH1JcuQ8rHeRVn-tg@comcast.com...
>
>
>
> Well spoken...stay with it and be happy and to those that would wish you
to
> be otherwise to H... with 'em.......Harold
>
>
| |
|
|
"Alan Holmes" <alan.holmes@virgin.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Drew" <Drew.1vf283@gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:Drew.1vf283@gardenbanter.co.uk...
>
> Not if they are looking :-))
>
>
>
| |
| Harold Walker 2005-09-17, 5:21 pm |
|
"Mike" <not@here.thank.you> wrote in message
news:dghs67$ili$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
> Thank you Harold I will. I have a vast circle of friends in different
> walks
> of life and they all know where they stand with me. I have just extended
> that circle by joining others on a cruise forum and had the pleasure of
> meeting a whole load of them at a party in High Wycombe this time last
> Saturday night. It was such a success that many of us have booked to go on
> a
> cruise together, 18 at present, fly out to Bermuda to join the ship,
> visit,
> St Lucia, (will be there in the new year at the start of a World Cruise)
> St
> Kitts, Granada, Antigua, Madeira and back into Southampton :-)) Last
> Saturday was a six hour party, this next one is a 14 day party :-)) And no
> one is a control freak and has 'been here the longest' and not a Net Nanny
> in sight :-)) we are all equal :-))
>
> Mike
>
>A pleasure Mike from one that also tells it 'like it is' and often much to
>the displeasure of others.....I sometimes laugh when asked for an opinion
>re something or other and the 'asker' gets pissed off at my answer....why
>on earth would thay wish to ask for an opinion only to get p'd off....many
>is the time I have known exactly what they would have liked me to say
>but....I do not play games...way too old for stupid games like
>that......stay with it young man and enjoy.....Harold
| |
| Bob Smith 2005-09-17, 7:21 pm |
|
"Alan Holmes" <alan.holmes@virgin.net> wrote in message
news:Wt_We.6023$6p.1866@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
>
> "Bob Smith" <bob@nospamplease> wrote in message
> news:43298c16$1_3@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>
> Isn't that odd, I was begining to think you are vermin.
>
> Alan
>
>
Then I shall come around to your house and shit on your garden.
| |
| Bob Smith 2005-09-18, 8:21 pm |
|
"Alan Holmes" <alan.holmes@virgin.net> wrote in message
news:Wt_We.6023$6p.1866@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
>
> "Bob Smith" <bob@nospamplease> wrote in message
> news:43298c16$1_3@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>
> Isn't that odd, I was begining to think you are vermin.
>
> Alan
>
Hmm, no reply, how about if you post your address, I promise to come around
and dig a few of your plants up, make your back garden smell permanently of
piss, and give your kids worms that will make them blind.
Thought not, motherfucker.
| |
| Grumach Macabre of Auchterloonie 2005-09-22, 5:21 pm |
| The message <dgcptv$hv5$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>
from "Mike" <not@here.thank.you> contains these words:
> The amount of pratts on this newsgroup is quite amazing, where do you all
> come from? Why do you control freaks come onto this newsgroup?
> This newsgroup and gardening would be such a wonderful thing if you were to
> take your fingers off the 'I am in charge' button.
You know, you never said a truer word.
It will be a better place when you are gone.
--
,,,
}»«<üüüü(@>
´ ´
| |
| Grumach Macabre of Auchterloonie 2005-09-22, 5:21 pm |
| The message <432de8ca_4@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>
from "Bob Smith" <bob@nospamplease> contains these words:
> Hmm, no reply, how about if you post your address, I promise to come around
> and dig a few of your plants up, make your back garden smell permanently of
> piss, and give your kids worms that will make them blind.
> Thought not, motherfucker.
You should put a sig-separator before that last word.
--
,,,
}»«<üüüü(@>
´ ´
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| david taylor 2005-09-25, 8:21 am |
| My granny used to use cayenne pepper against cats-dogs don't like it either.
You can still buy it cheaply at an ethnic market or emporium.
My son used it in Glasgow against a persitent fouling dog and it worked.
He did make the mistake of telling the dog owner who reacted badly.
Regards
David T
"Flower Bobdew" <garden@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Well, as no-one else has mentioned it - and it doesn't appear in the FAQ I
> looked at either [yes, clearly this is a common problem!]...
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> I've just [past two months] tried Silent Roar - bought from the local
> garden centre - which is, effectively, lion shite. I don't know how they
> know, but wee domestic moggies, seemingly, don't like the thought of
> bumping into a lion, even under the cover of darkness!
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> Its worked well in the back garden, but the front will be a good test too.
> I only have a couple of relatively small beds within a large grassed area
> [shared with next door] out there, and the constant piling up of the bark
> mulch that greets me most mornings' means the lions will soon be let
> loose.
>
> Now... About these damned moles... Who clearly aren't afraid of the odd,
> rogue lion!!! : 7
>
> --
> Flower Bobdew
> South Facing Garden
> South West: UK
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