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Removing dog mess from garden
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| Does anyone have any idea about how best to get rid of dog poo from one's
garden ? I have recently aquired a puppy - now 8 weeks old, and of course
what goes in one end, comes out of the other.
She is housetrained - i.e. she comes out and pees and craps on the garden
instead of in the house, but I need to get rid of the mess. Right now, I've
just been throwing over into the field next door, but I don't think this is
a good long term solution.
Firstly, I want to make a dog loo for her so that at least all the mess is
in one place. For this I'm thinking a low box structure set into the ground
filled with sand and gravel. Obviously I will still need to get rid of the
solid waste from here, so I was thinking of one of the "dog loo" type poo
digesters that are basically a bucket set in the ground filled with enzymes
of some description.
Does anyone here have any experience with this type of thing ? Or at least
some funny stories.
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| Kate Morgan 2005-09-25, 8:21 am |
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> solid waste from here, so I was thinking of one of the "dog loo" type poo
> digesters that are basically a bucket set in the ground filled with enzymes
> of some description.
We have one of those dog loo type things - cannot remember what they are
called - and find that they work rather well, worth considering
kate
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| Flower Bobdew 2005-09-25, 10:21 am |
| In article <fP-dncYPSrRu9aveRVnygQ@giganews.com>, adm <adm1@fastmail.fm>
writes
>Right now, I've just been throwing over into the field next door, but I
>don't think this is a good long term solution.
Umm, no. Right now I'm probably envisaging a different 'field', but I
shudder to think what that might look/smell like some 15 years down the
line! ;)
>Firstly, I want to make a dog loo for her so that at least all the mess is
>in one place. For this I'm thinking a low box structure set into the ground
>filled with sand and gravel. Obviously I will still need to get rid of the
>solid waste from here, so I was thinking of one of the "dog loo" type poo
>digesters that are basically a bucket set in the ground filled with enzymes
>of some description.
We tried a dog loo, but our dog would never use it. Hopeless! : 7
To be honest, our ultimate - and now 17 year old - simple solution... We
use recycled supermarket shopping bags for household waste. Every
morning I take this out to the bin, and pick up/add whatever our dog has
deposited from the previous 24 hours along the way - an old plastic
trowel has been designated pooh-pick-up implement.
>Does anyone here have any experience with this type of thing ? Or at least
>some funny stories.
My wife got up under cover of darkness yesterday morning, slightly
blurry eyed, to let out our new lad and missed his [very rare,
thankfully!] kitchen deposit by the door. Wearing slippers was a small
mercy! Well, I found it funny, tucked up in my nice warm bed. 
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Flower Bobdew
South Facing Garden
South West: UK
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| Jupiter 2005-09-25, 4:21 pm |
| On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 10:08:08 +0100, "adm" <adm1@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>Does anyone have any idea about how best to get rid of dog poo from one's
>garden ? I have recently aquired a puppy - now 8 weeks old, and of course
>what goes in one end, comes out of the other.
>
>She is housetrained - i.e. she comes out and pees and craps on the garden
>instead of in the house, but I need to get rid of the mess. Right now, I've
>just been throwing over into the field next door, but I don't think this is
>a good long term solution.
>
>Firstly, I want to make a dog loo for her so that at least all the mess is
>in one place. For this I'm thinking a low box structure set into the ground
>filled with sand and gravel. Obviously I will still need to get rid of the
>solid waste from here, so I was thinking of one of the "dog loo" type poo
>digesters that are basically a bucket set in the ground filled with enzymes
>of some description.
>
>Does anyone here have any experience with this type of thing ? Or at least
>some funny stories.
>
When we had a dog I used to lift the manhole cover in the back garden
and send it (not the dog!) to the same place that the human stuff goes
to.
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"adm" <adm1@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
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> Does anyone have any idea about how best to get rid of dog poo from one's
> garden ? I have recently aquired a puppy - now 8 weeks old, and of course
> what goes in one end, comes out of the other.
>
We did Puppy Walking Training for the Guide Dogs for the Blind. This
entailed not only house training the dog, but to go and do their business in
a set place in the garden. You might be interested to know, that when the
dog is being trained to use their bit of the garden, when they are taken
there, they are told to 'busy' and when done, praised. We continued with the
same practice when we had dogs of our own.
What to do with 'it' :-)) Somewhere in your garden in a border, behind a
border or behind something somewhere, you will have an area available, no
more than a spade's width square. Dig a hole as if you are digging a post
hole. As deep as you can. When your dog has had a 'busy', put this in the
bottom of the hole and just, and I mean 'just', cover it with earth. Do this
every time. Your hole will last a long time before another one is required.
Fill to within say 9 inches and then fill to the top with plain soil and
start another hole alongside putting the earth from this hole on top of the
one you have just filled.
We have moved our holes around the garden and never had any problem. There
is no smell because you cover it straight away.
If it's good enough for Guide Dog Training, it's good enough for our dogs.
Mike
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| Janet Baraclough 2005-09-25, 7:21 pm |
| The message <fP-dncYPSrRu9aveRVnygQ@giganews.com>
from "adm" <adm1@fastmail.fm> contains these words:
> Does anyone have any idea about how best to get rid of dog poo from one's
> garden ? I have recently aquired a puppy - now 8 weeks old, and of course
> what goes in one end, comes out of the other.
> She is housetrained - i.e. she comes out and pees and craps on the garden
> instead of in the house, but I need to get rid of the mess. Right now, I've
> just been throwing over into the field next door, but I don't think this is
> a good long term solution.
It couls also be unpopular with your neighbour. At the very least, it
makes grazing unpalatable to his stock; at worse, it could pass
intestinal pests to them.
> Firstly, I want to make a dog loo for her so that at least all the mess is
> in one place. For this I'm thinking a low box structure set into the ground
> filled with sand and gravel.
No need for sand and gravel. Just set it into soil; if it ever gets
full, move it somewhere else and cap off the old one with earth
excavated from the new one.
I dispose of our dog's crap as fertiliser under hedges where I know
for sure I'll never be doing any hand-weeding. Collect it using a small
shovel kept for that purpose; it only takes a few minutes once a week.
Janet
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| Jupiter wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 10:08:08 +0100, "adm" <adm1@fastmail.fm> wrote:
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> When we had a dog I used to lift the manhole cover in the back
garden
> and send it (not the dog!) to the same place that the human stuff
goes
> to.
Snap!
Even if you are in a rural area (as the 'field next door' implies) and
have a cess pit, the same applies.
Life needn't be complicated.
--
ned
http://www.bugsandweeds.co.uk
last update 22.09.2005
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"Mike" <not@here.thank.you> wrote in message
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> "adm" <adm1@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
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> We did Puppy Walking Training for the Guide Dogs for the Blind. This
> entailed not only house training the dog, but to go and do their business
> in
> a set place in the garden. You might be interested to know, that when the
> dog is being trained to use their bit of the garden, when they are taken
> there, they are told to 'busy' and when done, praised. We continued with
> the
> same practice when we had dogs of our own.
Yes - that's exactly what I am doing now - training her where get busy.
She's getting quite good at it too.
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> What to do with 'it' :-)) Somewhere in your garden in a border, behind a
> border or behind something somewhere, you will have an area available, no
> more than a spade's width square. Dig a hole as if you are digging a post
> hole. As deep as you can. When your dog has had a 'busy', put this in the
> bottom of the hole and just, and I mean 'just', cover it with earth. Do
> this
> every time. Your hole will last a long time before another one is
> required.
> Fill to within say 9 inches and then fill to the top with plain soil and
> start another hole alongside putting the earth from this hole on top of
> the
> one you have just filled.
>
> We have moved our holes around the garden and never had any problem. There
> is no smell because you cover it straight away.
>
> If it's good enough for Guide Dog Training, it's good enough for our dogs.
>
Fair enough - nice simple solution. I even have a big post hole borer in the
garage somewhere that should make this easy !
Cheers,
Alasdair
> Mike
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"Kate Morgan" <katemorgan@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> We have one of those dog loo type things - cannot remember what they are
> called - and find that they work rather well, worth considering
> kate
Thanks Kate
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"Flower Bobdew" <garden@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <fP-dncYPSrRu9aveRVnygQ@giganews.com>, adm <adm1@fastmail.fm>
> writes
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>
> Umm, no. Right now I'm probably envisaging a different 'field', but I
> shudder to think what that might look/smell like some 15 years down the
> line! ;)
Quite. By "long term", I meant in the next few months - not 15 years !
>
> We tried a dog loo, but our dog would never use it. Hopeless! : 7
>
> To be honest, our ultimate - and now 17 year old - simple solution... We
> use recycled supermarket shopping bags for household waste. Every morning
> I take this out to the bin, and pick up/add whatever our dog has deposited
> from the previous 24 hours along the way - an old plastic trowel has been
> designated pooh-pick-up implement.
I've got the designated poo picker upper already - it's the "spade of evil
smells"
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> My wife got up under cover of darkness yesterday morning, slightly blurry
> eyed, to let out our new lad and missed his [very rare, thankfully!]
> kitchen deposit by the door. Wearing slippers was a small mercy! Well, I
> found it funny, tucked up in my nice warm bed.
Myf wide got up to let the dog out this morning, and made the mistake of
thinking "oh - she looks happy, I'll just go and have a shower before I take
her out".....result: A nice pile of steaiming poop on the kitchen floor -
and a dog looking up at her saying "See - told you I had to go!"
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"Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.john@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> The message <fP-dncYPSrRu9aveRVnygQ@giganews.com>
> from "adm" <adm1@fastmail.fm> contains these words:
>
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> It couls also be unpopular with your neighbour. At the very least, it
> makes grazing unpalatable to his stock; at worse, it could pass
> intestinal pests to them.
Very true. Luckily enough, the field is set aside with no stock or crops,
and the farmer lives over a mile away....still - it's not an acceptable
solution.
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>
> No need for sand and gravel. Just set it into soil; if it ever gets
> full, move it somewhere else and cap off the old one with earth
> excavated from the new one.
>
> I dispose of our dog's crap as fertiliser under hedges where I know
> for sure I'll never be doing any hand-weeding. Collect it using a small
> shovel kept for that purpose; it only takes a few minutes once a week.
>
I normally do the "poo patrol" every morning and evening - as I have three
boys as well, they tend to zoom around the garden so I need to make sure
there is no dog poo left laying around.
> Janet
>
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> Yes - that's exactly what I am doing now - training her where get busy.
> She's getting quite good at it too.
She will be :-))
Next time you see a dog pulling on a lead, or barking at everything going
by, don't say to yourself "That's a badly trained dog" say to yourself
"That's a badly trained owner at the other end of that dog's lead" :-))
No such thing as a badly trained dog, only a badly trained, or untrained
owner.
> Fair enough - nice simple solution. I even have a big post hole borer in
the
> garage somewhere that should make this easy !
>
:-))
I did contemplate buying one of those, but the dog was getting old and we
will not have another one until our travelling days are over :-)) and it's
not fair on our neighbours and family who 'house sit' and 'garden sit' for
us.
Mike
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"Mike" <not@here.thank.you> wrote in message
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> She will be :-))
>
> Next time you see a dog pulling on a lead, or barking at everything going
> by, don't say to yourself "That's a badly trained dog" say to yourself
> "That's a badly trained owner at the other end of that dog's lead" :-))
Quite right too - a dog is a dog and a lot of it's final character depends
on the owner. A little effort at the puppy stage pays dividends in later
life. >
> No such thing as a badly trained dog, only a badly trained, or untrained
> owner.
>
The same thing can be said for children these days as well (and i have three
of them too !)
> the
>
> :-))
>
> I did contemplate buying one of those, but the dog was getting old and we
> will not have another one until our travelling days are over :-)) and it's
> not fair on our neighbours and family who 'house sit' and 'garden sit' for
> us.
>
> Mike
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> The same thing can be said for children these days as well (and i have
three
> of them too !)
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and people. I have a very low tolerance level for people who show their
ignorance and bad manners. Swearing in public or on a domain such as this is
not acceptable and if people use such language, they are put in the gutter
where they belong.
Mike
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| Harold Walker 2005-09-26, 9:21 am |
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"Mike" <not@here.thank.you> wrote in message
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> three
>
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> and people. I have a very low tolerance level for people who show their
> ignorance and bad manners. Swearing in public or on a domain such as this
> is
> not acceptable and if people use such language, they are put in the gutter
> where they belong.
>
> Mike
This time I must disagree with you...the gutter is too good for them....H
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gutter[color=darkred]
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> This time I must disagree with you...the gutter is too good for them....H
:-))))))))))))) I was being 'polite' ;-)
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| Harold Walker 2005-09-26, 10:21 am |
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"Mike" <not@here.thank.you> wrote in message
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> gutter
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> :-))))))))))))) I was being 'polite' ;-)//////////((((((((looks as tho we
> do agree then....
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| Alan Gabriel 2005-09-26, 9:21 pm |
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"adm" <adm1@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
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> Does anyone have any idea about how best to get rid of dog poo from one's
> garden ? I have recently aquired a puppy - now 8 weeks old, and of course
> what goes in one end, comes out of the other.
>
> She is housetrained - i.e. she comes out and pees and craps on the garden
> instead of in the house, but I need to get rid of the mess. Right now,
> I've just been throwing over into the field next door, but I don't think
> this is a good long term solution.
>
> Firstly, I want to make a dog loo for her so that at least all the mess
> is in one place. For this I'm thinking a low box structure set into the
> ground filled with sand and gravel. Obviously I will still need to get rid
> of the solid waste from here, so I was thinking of one of the "dog loo"
> type poo digesters that are basically a bucket set in the ground filled
> with enzymes of some description.
>
> Does anyone here have any experience with this type of thing ? Or at least
> some funny stories.
>
What's wrong with flushing it down the toilet?
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Regards,
Alan
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"Alan Gabriel" <alan@ac-gabriel.SQUIRRELfreeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "adm" <adm1@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
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> What's wrong with flushing it down the toilet?
I don't really want to have to go inside with my bag of doggy poo, take my
shoes off, navigate the maze of kid's toys, remove the child's training seat
from the loo and then flush it away......
On the other hand, if I built an outside loo, I could sit there and ponder
on nice mornings while I listen to the birds singing.
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| Peter James 2005-09-27, 11:21 am |
| adm <adm1@fastmail.fm> wrote:
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> I don't really want to have to go inside with my bag of doggy poo, take my
> shoes off, navigate the maze of kid's toys, remove the child's training seat
> from the loo and then flush it away......
>
>
> On the other hand, if I built an outside loo, I could sit there and ponder
> on nice mornings while I listen to the birds singing.
What's wrong with just lifting the manhole cover in the garden and
tipping it in there. Then either chuk down a bucket of water, or go
inside and flush the toilet. A friend of mine who breeds spaniels, in a
small way, only three bitches, does it this way. It works OK
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| June Hughes 2005-09-27, 12:21 pm |
| In message <1h3jy42.1uet4kko37ye4N%pfjamesAT@clara.co.uk>, Peter James
<pfjamesAT@clara.co.uk> writes
>adm <adm1@fastmail.fm> wrote:
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>What's wrong with just lifting the manhole cover in the garden and
>tipping it in there. Then either chuk down a bucket of water, or go
>inside and flush the toilet. A friend of mine who breeds spaniels, in a
>small way, only three bitches, does it this way. It works OK
>
>
I had forgotten about doing that. We used to do it years ago but have
not considered it here in London. It never once blocked the drains and
a good clean with Jeyes fluid kept the manhole reasonably sweet.
I complained last week to our local council (Barnet) because they had
taken away and not replaced the dog-pooh bins in the park. I was told
by someone claiming to be in authority that they were no longer going to
supply the bins and that the public had to use the ordinary rubbish
bins. When pressed, he explained that it was a Government directive and
that, where the dog pooh had previously to be burned, it now goes in
with the normal waste. Very strange. It would seem, from what he said,
that sticking bags of dog-pooh in your dustbin or in a street waste-bin
is now satisfactory. (He did add that they were phasing in new street
waste-bins with lids I dread to think how long that will take!)
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June Hughes
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| In article <8GSUb8apiVODFwRg@theacct.demon.co.uk>, June Hughes
<junehughes@theacct.demon.co.uk> writes
> It would seem, from what he said, that sticking bags of dog-pooh in your
>dustbin or in a street waste-bin is now satisfactory.
Well, it's an improvement on what happens in the Nature Park I help look
after - pick up the poo, tie it up neatly in a plastic bag, then sling
the whole lot in the bushes to remain dangling from the branches. I
can't work out the logic behind that one.
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"
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| June Hughes 2005-09-27, 3:21 pm |
| In message <Ab7BWbCkSXODFw2B@scarboro.demon.co.uk>, Kay
<kay@scarboro.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <8GSUb8apiVODFwRg@theacct.demon.co.uk>, June Hughes
><junehughes@theacct.demon.co.uk> writes
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>Well, it's an improvement on what happens in the Nature Park I help look
>after - pick up the poo, tie it up neatly in a plastic bag, then sling
>the whole lot in the bushes to remain dangling from the branches. I
>can't work out the logic behind that one.
Yuk! Our park is a conservation area and most people are good about
cleaning up after their dogs. There are a few who just leave it lying
around for others to stand in but on the whole, they are OK. Our main
problem is the Sunday morning crowd leaving soft drinks bottle and coke
cans all over the place.
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June Hughes
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| JP in Lon 2005-09-27, 6:21 pm |
| "Peter James" <pfjamesAT@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
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> adm <adm1@fastmail.fm> wrote:
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> What's wrong with just lifting the manhole cover in the garden and
> tipping it in there. Then either chuk down a bucket of water, or go
> inside and flush the toilet. A friend of mine who breeds spaniels, in a
> small way, only three bitches, does it this way. It works OK
It's ok for those with manholes, but some, like ours, don't have them.
(although we don't have any dogs, but I thought I'd give you something to
think about... :@} )
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"JP in Lon" <noone@tisali.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "Peter James" <pfjamesAT@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
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> seat
> ponder
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> It's ok for those with manholes, but some, like ours, don't have them.
> (although we don't have any dogs, but I thought I'd give you something to
> think about... :@} )
I do have a manhole - but it's a big solid iron one, and I want to put a
deck over it anyway. (With access to the manhole of course....)
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| Flower Bobdew 2005-09-29, 3:21 pm |
| adm <adm1@fastmail.fm> writes
>"Flower Bobdew" <garden@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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>Quite. By "long term", I meant in the next few months - not 15 years !
Ahh, right you are. For a while there I had visions of it eventually
being seen from space. ;)
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Flower Bobdew
South Facing Garden
South West: UK
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