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| judith lea 2006-11-18, 5:25 pm |
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Sacha wrote:
> 2C right now at 10.30pm and the automatic heating has started up in the
> greenhouses. It's a very cold night indeed.
> --
> Sacha
Edward has just gone to lock up and said it will be 6 degress under
tonight. We went out to dinner last night and the rain was so bad that
there was an awful accident on the Southern bypass because of the rain
and wet leaves which meant the taxi had to find an alternative route
home.
I have stuff in the greenhouse which I would like some advice on so I
will start a new thread, but maybe in the morning as I am told that
wine on the keyboard is not a good idea.
Judith
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| On 18/11/06 22:46, in article
1163890001.488407.161120@h54g2000cwb.googlegroups.com, "judith lea"
<lea.judith@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> Sacha wrote:
>
> Edward has just gone to lock up and said it will be 6 degress under
> tonight. We went out to dinner last night and the rain was so bad that
> there was an awful accident on the Southern bypass because of the rain
> and wet leaves which meant the taxi had to find an alternative route
> home.
Oh dear and I think it's cold here!
>
> I have stuff in the greenhouse which I would like some advice on so I
> will start a new thread, but maybe in the morning as I am told that
> wine on the keyboard is not a good idea.
>
Beside the keyboard is probably better. ;-)
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
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| Yup!
Visited my dad this afternoon who had planned to lift his dahlia tubers but
felt too tired. Insisted I did the digging for him. Took me just a little
while (bit younger and fitter).
So pleased as they are now lifted and drying in a more appropriate
environment than frozen/frosty ground!.
--
I smile and go off waving
(Amiably) - for that's my way
Baal
http://www.helden.org.uk
"Sacha" <sacha@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:C18539B9.3D2A6%sacha@privacy.net...
> 2C right now at 10.30pm and the automatic heating has started up in the
> greenhouses. It's a very cold night indeed.
> --
> Sacha
> www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
> South Devon
> http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
>
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| judith lea 2006-11-18, 5:25 pm |
|
Baal wrote:
>
> Visited my dad this afternoon who had planned to lift his dahlia tubers but
> felt too tired. Insisted I did the digging for him. Took me just a little
> while (bit younger and fitter).
>
> So pleased as they are now lifted and drying in a more appropriate
> environment than frozen/frosty ground!.
Baal, why do you lift them? I have a lot of Dahlia and when I planted
them I put them in deeper than recommended on a thin bed of sand and
despite dreadful East of England winters they survive.
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| Peter Stockdale 2006-11-18, 8:25 pm |
|
"judith lea" <lea.judith@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:1163890609.262157.297940@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>
> Baal wrote:
>
> Baal, why do you lift them? I have a lot of Dahlia and when I planted
> them I put them in deeper than recommended on a thin bed of sand and
> despite dreadful East of England winters they survive.
41 F. up here in the balmy North as we speak.
Fortunate as my kero heater is kaput !
Pete
www.thecanalshop.com
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| Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\) 2006-11-18, 8:25 pm |
|
"Sacha" <sacha@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:C18539B9.3D2A6%sacha@privacy.net...
> 2C right now at 10.30pm and the automatic heating has started up in the
> greenhouses. It's a very cold night indeed.
> --
> Sacha
> www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
> South Devon
> http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
>
Serves you right for living down there. It's just a bit warmer up here.
It's only a few more weeks before you state that your Akebia is about to
strut it's stuff :-)
Glad to see you back--I need a whipping boy/girl /thingy.
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| Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\) 2006-11-18, 8:25 pm |
|
"judith lea" <lea.judith@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:1163890609.262157.297940@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>
> Baal wrote:
>
> Baal, why do you lift them? I have a lot of Dahlia and when I planted
> them I put them in deeper than recommended on a thin bed of sand and
> despite dreadful East of England winters they survive.
>
Yes -the good drainage bit is the solution to overwinter "so called" tender
exotics. Dahlias-Canna-Gingers etc. Dahlias are fine but the rest will be
slow to start growth around this area and will consequently flower very
late.
I am amazed at the sort of stuff that people are planting and successfully
overwintering. Less than half a mile from me a chap has a banana (basjoo)
still blasting out new leaves despite the odd sub zero evening.
Cacti seem to be the latest craze amongst the exotic crowd--big "sod off"
things that grow well in 90% grit and 10% rubbish soil.
Sorry about that quick ramble but Drainage is the answer to many
overwintering problems.
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| David D Stretch 2006-11-18, 8:25 pm |
| On Saturday 18 Nov 2006 23:30, Peter Stockdale
(<ZJudncLQRMQkCsLYnZ2dnUVZ8qadnZ2d@bt.com> ) wrote:
>
> 41 F. up here in the balmy North as we speak.
> Fortunate as my kero heater is kaput !
It is 3 C here in Stoke-on-Trent. Just under a week ago, we collected the
last of the green beans growing outside. They looked a little worse for
wear, but still were all right eating. The variety is one you can't buy in
the UK - we bought a couple of packets of them in China, and I was assured
that they could tolerate cold weather. They taste like a much more tender
and delicate version of French beans.
--
David D Stretch: Stoke-on-Trent, United Kingdom.
To email me, delete all points (fullstops, or ".") from before
the "@" in the above email addresses, then delete DELETETHIS.
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| Bob Hobden 2006-11-18, 8:25 pm |
|
"Sacha" wrote
> 2C right now at 10.30pm and the automatic heating has started up in the
> greenhouses. It's a very cold night indeed.
Yes, I noticed when we just drove home. Unfortunately I haven't put Sue's
Citrus trees inside yet, hope they will be OK, wouldn't want to lose all the
fruit let alone the trees.
--
Regards
Bob H
17mls W. of London.UK
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| Mike in Spain 2006-11-19, 3:25 am |
|
Bob Hobden wrote:
> "Sacha" wrote
>
> Yes, I noticed when we just drove home. Unfortunately I haven't put Sue's
> Citrus trees inside yet, hope they will be OK, wouldn't want to lose all the
> fruit let alone the trees.
>
> --
> Regards
> Bob H
> 17mls W. of London.UK
He he.. he says after a nice sunny day with the temp over 70, but it
does get cold, around 12 degrees at night :-p
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| On 18/11/06 22:56, in article
1163890609.262157.297940@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com, "judith lea"
<lea.judith@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> Baal wrote:
>
> Baal, why do you lift them? I have a lot of Dahlia and when I planted
> them I put them in deeper than recommended on a thin bed of sand and
> despite dreadful East of England winters they survive.
>
We tend to put a mulch over ours - dead leaves, big pile of spent compost,
that sort of thing. But of course, it's not usually as hard a winter here
as it is in other parts of the country. Ray also takes cuttings from our
favourites, just as a precaution.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
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| On 18/11/06 23:38, in article 455f998a@212.67.96.135, "Rupert (W.Yorkshire)"
<reply@newsgroups.com> wrote:
>
> "Sacha" <sacha@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:C18539B9.3D2A6%sacha@privacy.net...
> Serves you right for living down there. It's just a bit warmer up here.
> It's only a few more weeks before you state that your Akebia is about to
> strut it's stuff :-)
Oh dear - that was one of my better moments! But if it's any comfort to
you, about 10 days ago the Rosa banksiae lutea was in flower - and not just
one or two, either. I'm waiting to see what made it through last night.
> Glad to see you back--I need a whipping boy/girl /thingy.
>
1. Thank you. 2. Look elsehwere!
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
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| June Hughes 2006-11-19, 3:25 am |
| In message <1163919298.936100.322320@h54g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Mike
in Spain <berridge.michael@gmail.com> writes
>
>Bob Hobden wrote:
>
>
>He he.. he says after a nice sunny day with the temp over 70, but it
>does get cold, around 12 degrees at night :-p
>
Lucky you, Mike. Are you now all settled in?
--
June Hughes
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| June Hughes 2006-11-19, 3:25 am |
| In message <1374523.qUqDAZiumH@ku.oc.nomed.trowgum-hctertsdd>, David D
Stretch <ddst.r.et.ch.DE.LETE.TH.I.S@mugwort.demon.co.uk> writes
>On Saturday 18 Nov 2006 23:30, Peter Stockdale
>(<ZJudncLQRMQkCsLYnZ2dnUVZ8qadnZ2d@bt.com> ) wrote:
>
>
>It is 3 C here in Stoke-on-Trent. Just under a week ago, we collected the
>last of the green beans growing outside. They looked a little worse for
>wear, but still were all right eating. The variety is one you can't buy in
>the UK - we bought a couple of packets of them in China, and I was assured
>that they could tolerate cold weather. They taste like a much more tender
>and delicate version of French beans.
>
The thermometer says it dropped to 2 degrees here but it seemed a lot
colder than that and there is frost on the rooftops and cars. I still
can't find my aloe vera but reckon it must have expired by now.
--
June Hughes
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| Martin 2006-11-19, 9:25 am |
| On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 00:00:29 +0000, David D Stretch
<ddst.r.et.ch.DE.LETE.TH.I.S@mugwort.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>On Saturday 18 Nov 2006 23:30, Peter Stockdale
>(<ZJudncLQRMQkCsLYnZ2dnUVZ8qadnZ2d@bt.com> ) wrote:
>
>
>It is 3 C here in Stoke-on-Trent. Just under a week ago, we collected =
the
>last of the green beans growing outside. They looked a little worse for
>wear, but still were all right eating. The variety is one you can't buy =
in
>the UK - we bought a couple of packets of them in China, and I was =
assured
>that they could tolerate cold weather. They taste like a much more =
tender
>and delicate version of French beans.
Minimum air temperature in ZH was 6 C last night.
--=20
Martin
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| Neil Jones 2006-11-19, 9:25 am |
| Bob Hobden wrote:
>
> "Sacha" wrote
>
> Yes, I noticed when we just drove home. Unfortunately I haven't put Sue's
> Citrus trees inside yet, hope they will be OK, wouldn't want to lose all
> the fruit let alone the trees.
>
Citrus can take a few degrees of frost. Most people are suprised by this but
there was an orange plantation outside in England at one time that lasted
for many years. Fruit on the other hand is a different matter.
But I would bring them in now.
Neil@nwjones.demon.co.uk http://www.butterflyguy.com/
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| Janet Tweedy 2006-11-19, 9:25 am |
| In article <C18539B9.3D2A6%sacha@privacy.net>, Sacha <sacha@privacy.net>
writes
>2C right now at 10.30pm and the automatic heating has started up in the
>greenhouses. It's a very cold night indeed.
It was 2degrees at 9am here! Think it's feeling colder because it is
still so damp from the rain the other day. Brother and partner running
in the Herbert's Hole race this morning, travelled up from Brighton to
do so. Mad devils. They could be out helping me seep up the leaves, but
no they prefer to run through mud instead.
Funny how being gardener you accept conditions that others falter when
faced.
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk
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| Alan Holmes 2006-11-19, 9:25 am |
|
"Sacha" <sacha@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:C18539B9.3D2A6%sacha@privacy.net...
> 2C right now at 10.30pm and the automatic heating has started up in the
> greenhouses. It's a very cold night indeed.
I have no idea what the temperature is, just that there was frost on the
ground and ice on the car, so I had to defrost to go and get my sunday
paper, all of a half a mile away!
Alan
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| Alan Holmes 2006-11-19, 9:25 am |
| [color=darkred]
> On 18/11/06 23:38, in article 455f998a@212.67.96.135, "Rupert
> (W.Yorkshire)"
> <reply@newsgroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> Oh dear - that was one of my better moments! But if it's any comfort to
> you, about 10 days ago the Rosa banksiae lutea was in flower - and not
> just
> one or two, either. I'm waiting to see what made it through last night.
>
Does that interprete as:-
Glad to see you back--I need a whipping,
Or:-
Glad to see you back--I need a whipping boy.
If you had not been a fellow, I might have offered to help with the first
one!(:-)
Alan
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| Alan Holmes 2006-11-19, 9:25 am |
|
"judith lea" <lea.judith@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:1163890001.488407.161120@h54g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
> Sacha wrote:
>
> Edward has just gone to lock up and said it will be 6 degress under
> tonight. We went out to dinner last night and the rain was so bad that
> there was an awful accident on the Southern bypass because of the rain
> and wet leaves which meant the taxi had to find an alternative route
> home.
>
> I have stuff in the greenhouse which I would like some advice on so I
> will start a new thread, but maybe in the morning as I am told that
> wine on the keyboard is not a good idea.
Why on earth do you put wine on the keyboard?
I would have thought that in the mouth would be better.
Alan
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|
| On 19/11/06 12:20, in article 1_X7h.56167$r4.44176@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net,
"Neil Jones" <neil@nwjones.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Bob Hobden wrote:
>
>
> Citrus can take a few degrees of frost. Most people are suprised by this but
> there was an orange plantation outside in England at one time that lasted
> for many years. Fruit on the other hand is a different matter.
>
> But I would bring them in now.
>
> Neil@nwjones.demon.co.uk http://www.butterflyguy.com/
It dropped to just below freezing last night, but only by the merest
whisker. We have a Meyer's lemon in an unheated greenhouse and unless it
really does plummet in temperature, it remains unheated. The tree does
beautifully and fruits like mad BUT it is well drained and is given a splash
of water just when someone thinks about it in the summer. I think that
quite often it's standing about with wet roots in cold ground that does for
a lot of these things.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
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| Martin 2006-11-19, 9:25 am |
| On 18 Nov 2006 22:54:59 -0800, "Mike in Spain" =
<berridge.michael@gmail.com>
wrote:
>He he.. he says after a nice sunny day with the temp over 70, but it
>does get cold, around 12 degrees at night :-p
C F or K?
--=20
Martin
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| Mike in Spain 2006-11-19, 1:25 pm |
|
June Hughes wrote:
> In message <1163919298.936100.322320@h54g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Mike
> in Spain <berridge.michael@gmail.com> writes
> Lucky you, Mike. Are you now all settled in?
> --
> June Hughes
Yes fully settled in now, been here 13 months, got the sun blinds, the
hot tub, all the terrace furniture, poinsettias as outdoor garden
plants, already turned a very nice red for christmas, about to bring
the orchids in as they are throwing up nice new flower spikes. :-)
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| June Hughes 2006-11-19, 1:25 pm |
| In message <1163956720.610661.51190@h54g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Mike
in Spain <berridge.michael@gmail.com> writes
>
>June Hughes wrote:
>
>Yes fully settled in now, been here 13 months, got the sun blinds, the
>hot tub, all the terrace furniture, poinsettias as outdoor garden
>plants, already turned a very nice red for christmas, about to bring
>the orchids in as they are throwing up nice new flower spikes. :-)
>
Thirteen months has gone very quickly.
--
June Hughes
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| Jim Paterson 2006-11-19, 5:25 pm |
|
"Sacha" <sacha@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:C18539B9.3D2A6%sacha@privacy.net...
> 2C right now at 10.30pm and the automatic heating has started up in the
> greenhouses. It's a very cold night indeed.
> --
> Sacha
> www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
> South Devon
> http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
>Ice on the puddles here last night and I'm just down the road from Bob H.
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| Alan Holmes 2006-11-19, 5:25 pm |
|
"June Hughes" <junehughes@theacct.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:zvUzaYNxWJYFFw6h@theacct.demon.co.uk...
> In message <1163956720.610661.51190@h54g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Mike in
> Spain <berridge.michael@gmail.com> writes
> Thirteen months has gone very quickly.
I didn't even know he had gone!
Alan
> --
> June Hughes
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| On 19/11/06 19:29, in article
9g28h.203709$lT5.19706@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk, "Jim Paterson"
<padger@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
> "Sacha" <sacha@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:C18539B9.3D2A6%sacha@privacy.net...
[color=darkred]
>
>
Here, by contrast, we have a howling gale tonight. The wind is roaring in
the chimney pots and has knocked over several garden pots, while the rain is
hurling down. The dogs had to be heavily persuaded out of the door a few
minutes ago.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
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| Charlie Pridham 2006-11-20, 3:25 am |
|
"Sacha" <sacha@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:C18697E2.3D386%sacha@privacy.net...
> On 19/11/06 19:29, in article
> 9g28h.203709$lT5.19706@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk, "Jim Paterson"
> <padger@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
H.[color=darkred]
> Here, by contrast, we have a howling gale tonight. The wind is roaring in
> the chimney pots and has knocked over several garden pots, while the rain
is
> hurling down. The dogs had to be heavily persuaded out of the door a few
> minutes ago.
> --
> Sacha
> www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
> South Devon
> http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
I have just spent ten mins getting wet feet picking up assorted wind blown
empty pots from all over the garden, that were in a neat pile near the
greenhouse, and subject to me muttering for the last month on a daily basis
"I must put those in the shed before the next gale" - Happens every year!
But at least Autumn has arrived and I can get on with stuff.
--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collections of Clematis viticella (cvs) and
Lapageria rosea
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| On 20/11/06 08:55, in article 4sd95mFv6orsU1@mid.individual.net, "Charlie
Pridham" <charlie.pridham@lineone.net> wrote:
>
> "Sacha" <sacha@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:C18697E2.3D386%sacha@privacy.net...
> H.
> is
>
> I have just spent ten mins getting wet feet picking up assorted wind blown
> empty pots from all over the garden, that were in a neat pile near the
> greenhouse, and subject to me muttering for the last month on a daily basis
> "I must put those in the shed before the next gale" - Happens every year!
> But at least Autumn has arrived and I can get on with stuff.
And to make us thoroughly green with envy, I've just had an email from David
Poole telling me that his Hardenbergia violaceae is pushing out racemes all
over the place, his Crinum moorei has just flowered for the second time and
he's also picking limequats! Grrrrrrrr. ;-)
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
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|
| Habit I suppose. Most of my gardening knowledge has come from my Dad over
the years. I thought that frost damaged/killed the tubers.
--
I smile and go off waving
(Amiably) - for that's my way
Baal
http://www.helden.org.uk
"judith lea" <lea.judith@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:1163890609.262157.297940@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>
> Baal wrote:
>
> Baal, why do you lift them? I have a lot of Dahlia and when I planted
> them I put them in deeper than recommended on a thin bed of sand and
> despite dreadful East of England winters they survive.
>
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| judith lea 2006-11-20, 1:25 pm |
|
Baal wrote:
> Habit I suppose. Most of my gardening knowledge has come from my Dad over
> the years. I thought that frost damaged/killed the tubers.
>
Your father is absolutely correct - I just plant mine pretty deeply and
the frost does not penetrate. I did an experiment some years ago - I
planted some tubers deeply but on soil and I planted other tubers, at
the same depth but on a sandy base. I lost a few of the ones that were
not on a sandy base.
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|
| On 20/11/06 17:12, in article
1164042735.342973.41120@j44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, "judith lea"
<lea.judith@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> Baal wrote:
> Your father is absolutely correct - I just plant mine pretty deeply and
> the frost does not penetrate. I did an experiment some years ago - I
> planted some tubers deeply but on soil and I planted other tubers, at
> the same depth but on a sandy base. I lost a few of the ones that were
> not on a sandy base.
>
Better drainage on the sandy base, too.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
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| Mike in Spain 2006-11-21, 3:25 am |
|
Martin wrote:
> On 18 Nov 2006 22:54:59 -0800, "Mike in Spain" <berridge.michael@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> C F or K?
> --
>
> Martin
70 = F, 12 = C, just mixed messages, sorry.
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