Home > Archive > UK gardening > May 2006 > Chelsea on Tuesday night









You are viewing an archived Text-only version of the thread. To view this thread in it's original format and/or if you want to reply to this thread please [click here]

 

Author Chelsea on Tuesday night
Sacha Hubbard

2006-05-24, 9:21 am

I'm sorry to rub it in to those who didn't see it but Carol Klein's
presentation on digital viewing in the Grand Pavilion, was an utter delight.
She is just SUCH a good presenter and is on TV just as she is in real life.
In fact, I'd say they could make a whole programme for that alone and show it
to everyone!
Her own knowledge was of the greatest value, her way of presenting was
natural and refreshingly 'unstagey' and it's clear that her acquaintanceship
with so many of the exhibitors was, indeed, a bonus for us. Some of the
plants were mouthwatering and mostly, it was easy to identify them. I
thought the Drosera from http://www.hampshire-carnivorous-plants.co.uk/ would
be very interesting to those who have problems with whitefly in greenhouses.
But we enjoyed all the programmes and certainly - for us - the right garden
got Best in Show. ;-) Which would others have chosen?

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
email address on web site

Paul Corfield

2006-05-24, 10:21 am

On Wed, 24 May 2006 12:33:02 +0100, Sacha Hubbard <sacha@privacy.net>
wrote:

>I'm sorry to rub it in to those who didn't see it but Carol Klein's
>presentation on digital viewing in the Grand Pavilion, was an utter delight.


Most enjoyable - even for a novice. I've recorded both programmes so
far.

>She is just SUCH a good presenter and is on TV just as she is in real life.
>In fact, I'd say they could make a whole programme for that alone and show it
>to everyone!


Perhaps someone needs to say to the BBC that they could provide those
programmes either as a DVD or via the Gardeners World site on "see it
again" player where the programmes stay for a week or so. The other
alternative would be for them to show them as Hour Long Specials when GW
is not broadcast over the height of the Summer.

You seem to have the "hot line" to the production team so why not drop
them an E Mail? :-)

>Her own knowledge was of the greatest value, her way of presenting was
>natural and refreshingly 'unstagey' and it's clear that her acquaintanceship
>with so many of the exhibitors was, indeed, a bonus for us.


I agree that she seems to be in her element talking with the growers and
pointing out the plants.

>But we enjoyed all the programmes and certainly - for us - the right garden
>got Best in Show. ;-) Which would others have chosen?


I'll wait and see how they look "in the leaf" tomorrow provided I don't
get rained out. It looks like a dismal rainy and windy autumn day out
of the window at the moment :-(

--
Paul C
Sacha Hubbard

2006-05-24, 11:21 am

On Wed, 24 May 2006 13:27:23 +0100, Paul Corfield wrote
(in article <uqj8729sq7f3ufurcu3lit0n8jp8efa773@4ax.com> ):

> On Wed, 24 May 2006 12:33:02 +0100, Sacha Hubbard <sacha@privacy.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> Most enjoyable - even for a novice. I've recorded both programmes so
> far.
>
>
> Perhaps someone needs to say to the BBC that they could provide those
> programmes either as a DVD or via the Gardeners World site on "see it
> again" player where the programmes stay for a week or so. The other
> alternative would be for them to show them as Hour Long Specials when GW
> is not broadcast over the height of the Summer.
>
> You seem to have the "hot line" to the production team so why not drop
> them an E Mail? :-)


I wish! However, if we all write in.................well - we know what can
happen.
>
>
> I agree that she seems to be in her element talking with the growers and
> pointing out the plants.
>
>
> I'll wait and see how they look "in the leaf" tomorrow provided I don't
> get rained out. It looks like a dismal rainy and windy autumn day out
> of the window at the moment :-(
>


As it is here - really dreary and leading to a great soh failure!


--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
email address on web site

Tiger303

2006-05-24, 5:21 pm


the digital tour of some of the large show gardens was interesting to
hear what the designers were trying to achieve. really liked the look
of chris beardshaw's garden, and the colours in part of the telegraph
garden were wonderful too


--
Tiger303
Janet Baraclough

2006-05-24, 7:21 pm

The message <Tiger303.28bvjz@gardenbanter.co.uk>
from Tiger303 <Tiger303.28bvjz@gardenbanter.co.uk> contains these words:


> the digital tour of some of the large show gardens was interesting to
> hear what the designers were trying to achieve. really liked the look
> of chris beardshaw's garden, and the colours in part of the telegraph
> garden were wonderful too


It was the bronzy-gold irises I fell for :-)

Janet

--
Isle of Arran Open Gardens weekend 21,22,23 July 2006
5 UKP three-day adult ticket (funds go to island charities) buys entry
to 26 private gardens
Janet Baraclough

2006-05-24, 7:21 pm

The message <uqj8729sq7f3ufurcu3lit0n8jp8efa773@4ax.com>
from Paul Corfield <aooy65@dsl.pipex.com> contains these words:

> Perhaps someone needs to say to the BBC that they could provide those
> programmes either as a DVD or via the Gardeners World site on "see it
> again" player where the programmes stay for a week or so. The other
> alternative would be for them to show them as Hour Long Specials when GW
> is not broadcast over the height of the Summer.


I agree. The "red button" digital extra coverage is just superb,
exactly what I want to see about Chelsea, quite different from and
better than the main programmes IMHO. I hope they do make the digital
coverage available for everyone to watch.

Janet.

--
Isle of Arran Open Gardens weekend 21,22,23 July 2006
5 UKP three-day adult ticket (funds go to island charities) buys entry
to 26 private gardens
K

2006-05-24, 7:21 pm

Sacha Hubbard <sacha@privacy.net> writes
>. I
>thought the Drosera from http://www.hampshire-carnivorous-plants.co.uk/ would
>be very interesting to those who have problems with whitefly in greenhouses.


I find Pinguicula (butterwort) are best for whitefly - I think the
colour of the pale leaves attracts them (rather like the yellow fly
papers do)
--
Kay
K

2006-05-24, 7:21 pm

Sacha Hubbard <sacha@privacy.net> writes[color=darkred]
>On Wed, 24 May 2006 13:27:23 +0100, Paul Corfield wrote
>(in article <uqj8729sq7f3ufurcu3lit0n8jp8efa773@4ax.com> ):
>
>
>I wish! However, if we all write in.................well - we know what can
>happen.
Apparently there are companies set up to provide information from
internet discussion groups to businesses - a cheap form of market
research. Perhaps the beeb is using their services?
--
Kay
Pest Effects

2006-05-24, 11:21 pm


Sacha Hubbard Wrote:
> On Wed, 24 May 2006 13:27:23 +0100, Paul Corfield wrote
> (in article uqj8729sq7f3ufurcu3lit0n8jp8efa773@4ax.com):
>
> On Wed, 24 May 2006 12:33:02 +0100, Sacha Hubbard sacha@privacy.net
> wrote:
> [color=green]
> I'm sorry to rub it in to those who didn't see it but Carol Klein's
> presentation on digital viewing in the Grand Pavilion, was an utter
> delight.
>
> Most enjoyable - even for a novice. I've recorded both programmes so
> far.
>
> She is just SUCH a good presenter and is on TV just as she is in real
> life.
> In fact, I'd say they could make a whole programme for that alone and
> show
> it
> to everyone!
>
> Perhaps someone needs to say to the BBC that they could provide those
> programmes either as a DVD or via the Gardeners World site on "see it
> again" player where the programmes stay for a week or so. The other
> alternative would be for them to show them as Hour Long Specials when
> GW
> is not broadcast over the height of the Summer.
>
> --
> Sacha
> www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
> South Devon
> email address on web site


I have a number of contacts with BBC's Gardeners World. I'll pass this
suggestion on to them and let you know the reply!


--
Pest Effects
Sacha Hubbard

2006-05-25, 6:21 am

On Wed, 24 May 2006 22:31:15 +0100, Janet Baraclough wrote
(in article <31303030393032394474DEB331@zetnet.co.uk> ):

> The message <Tiger303.28bvjz@gardenbanter.co.uk>
> from Tiger303 <Tiger303.28bvjz@gardenbanter.co.uk> contains these words:
>
>
>
> It was the bronzy-gold irises I fell for :-)
>
> Janet


Me, too! They were edible! Were those Kelway? Cayeux has produced some
gorgeous ones, too.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
email address on web site

Sacha Hubbard

2006-05-25, 6:21 am

On Wed, 24 May 2006 23:01:51 +0100, K wrote
(in article <sTCckTIPfNdEFw28@scarboro.demon.co.uk> ):

> Sacha Hubbard <sacha@privacy.net> writes
> Apparently there are companies set up to provide information from
> internet discussion groups to businesses - a cheap form of market
> research. Perhaps the beeb is using their services?
>


Could be, though apparently the new approach to Chelsea is a result of direct
viewer 'intervention'!

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
email address on web site

Sacha Hubbard

2006-05-25, 6:21 am

On Wed, 24 May 2006 22:59:20 +0100, K wrote
(in article <Tg$j4gH4cNdEFwTo@scarboro.demon.co.uk> ):

> Sacha Hubbard <sacha@privacy.net> writes
>
> I find Pinguicula (butterwort) are best for whitefly - I think the
> colour of the pale leaves attracts them (rather like the yellow fly
> papers do)
>


Very interesting. I'll look that up, Kay. Do you use them yourself?

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
email address on web site

Bertie Doe

2006-05-25, 9:21 am


"K" <k@scarboro.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Tg$j4gH4cNdEFwTo@scarboro.demon.co.uk...
> Sacha Hubbard <sacha@privacy.net> writes
>
> I find Pinguicula (butterwort) are best for whitefly - I think the colour
> of the pale leaves attracts them (rather like the yellow fly papers do)
> --

Agreed Sacha, Carol was great again last night, liked the 'air plants' the
Italian/Belgian grower was brill. Is there an on-line site anywhere for air
plants?

K, ref the above Hampshire pic, do you know what the low growing, white
flowering plant, bottom of pic, left of centre. TIA

Bertie


La Puce

2006-05-25, 9:21 am


Bertie Doe wrote:
> K, ref the above Hampshire pic, do you know what the low growing, white
> flowering plant, bottom of pic, left of centre. TIA


I think those are Utricularia blanchettii.

K

2006-05-25, 2:21 pm

Bertie Doe <montebrasite4@ntl.com> writes
>
>"K" <k@scarboro.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:Tg$j4gH4cNdEFwTo@scarboro.demon.co.uk...
>Agreed Sacha, Carol was great again last night, liked the 'air plants' the
>Italian/Belgian grower was brill. Is there an on-line site anywhere for air
>plants?
>
>K, ref the above Hampshire pic, do you know what the low growing, white
>flowering plant, bottom of pic, left of centre. TIA
>

No, not a clue! Most of those are Sarracenia, so presumably another
species. Aren't they pitchers rather than flowers?
--
Kay
K

2006-05-25, 2:21 pm

Sacha Hubbard <sacha@privacy.net> writes
>On Wed, 24 May 2006 22:59:20 +0100, K wrote
>(in article <Tg$j4gH4cNdEFwTo@scarboro.demon.co.uk> ):
>
>
>Very interesting. I'll look that up, Kay. Do you use them yourself?
>

I grow them, but more because their bright pink flowers brighten the
greenhouse through the winter. I wouldn't say they are a complete cure
(largely because I also have Nicotiana sylvestris in there for the scent
and that attracts them without eating them), but the butterwort leaves
are always plastered in dead whitefly.
--
Kay
Sacha Hubbard

2006-05-25, 2:21 pm

On Thu, 25 May 2006 17:13:22 +0100, K wrote
(in article <PT5UUZKieddEFwTZ@scarboro.demon.co.uk> ):

> Sacha Hubbard <sacha@privacy.net> writes
<snip>[color=darkred]
> I grow them, but more because their bright pink flowers brighten the
> greenhouse through the winter. I wouldn't say they are a complete cure
> (largely because I also have Nicotiana sylvestris in there for the scent
> and that attracts them without eating them), but the butterwort leaves
> are always plastered in dead whitefly.
>


Thanks. I'm tempted to get some of both and give them a try just out of
interest.

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
email address on web site

Sacha Hubbard

2006-05-25, 2:21 pm

On Thu, 25 May 2006 17:12:10 +0100, K wrote
(in article <jT3f0mIadddEFw2o@scarboro.demon.co.uk> ):

> Bertie Doe <montebrasite4@ntl.com> writes
> No, not a clue! Most of those are Sarracenia, so presumably another
> species. Aren't they pitchers rather than flowers?
>


Here's a link to their site: http://www.hantsflytrap.com/content/index.php
and this one has a few air plants:
http://www.livefoods.co.uk/default.php?cPath=41

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
email address on web site

Bertie Doe

2006-05-25, 2:21 pm

Thanks LP, K and Sacha, must tape Carol this eve and build a collection.

BD


Paul Corfield

2006-05-25, 5:21 pm

On Wed, 24 May 2006 22:30:14 +0100, Janet Baraclough
<janet.and.john@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:

>The message <uqj8729sq7f3ufurcu3lit0n8jp8efa773@4ax.com>
>from Paul Corfield <aooy65@dsl.pipex.com> contains these words:
>
>
> I agree. The "red button" digital extra coverage is just superb,
>exactly what I want to see about Chelsea, quite different from and
>better than the main programmes IMHO. I hope they do make the digital
>coverage available for everyone to watch.


I went to Chelsea today for the first time - boy do my legs ache.

Interestingly the RHS had a Chelsea 2006 DVD and Video on sale and Carol
Klein presents it. I didn't buy it as I took a large number of
photographs instead.

The highlights were

Chris Beardshaw's Garden and Andy Sturgeon's garden. Both delightfully
planted. I was less taken with the others to be honest. The small
courtyard gardens were also rather good.

Nearly bashed Charlie Dimmock with my backpack (!) and held back while
the royal procession of Joe Swift walked in front of me while queuing in
the "slow queue" for some of the show gardens.

The real highlight though is the Pavilion and some of the stands were
really fabulous. I have over 3 pages of plant names jotted down as
options for filling in the space in my garden - I'm so pleased I took a
notebook. Amazing displays of bulbs, herbaceous plants, violas and
pansies and clematis - the latter two stands were completely packed out.
The inventive matching of plants was like a tutorial for me - and I do
appreciate that you don't get them all flowering together in nature as
they do at Chelsea.

I was surprised at just how many languages I heard being spoken - people
clearly come from all over the world to visit. Not something I had
particularly thought about before but it makes sense given the status
and reputation of the show.

Overall most enjoyable and certainly very informative for a novice.

--
Paul C

vulch@vulch.org

2006-05-25, 5:21 pm

"Bertie Doe" <montebrasite4@ntl.com> writes:

> Is there an on-line site anywhere for air
> plants?


The exhibit had http://www.airplant.be/ on its signage.

Anthony

Bertie Doe

2006-05-25, 7:21 pm


wrote in message
> "Bertie Doe" writes:
>
>
> The exhibit had http://www.airplant.be/ on its signage.
>

Thanks Anthony, phew, 50 of them! I'll get a book before I order.

Bertie


Bertie Doe

2006-05-26, 9:21 am


"Sacha Hubbard" wrote in message
> I'm sorry to rub it in to those who didn't see it but Carol Klein's
> presentation on digital viewing in the Grand Pavilion, was an utter
> delight.

<snip>
> Some of the plants were mouthwatering and mostly, it was easy to identify
> them. I
> thought the Drosera from http://www.hampshire-carnivorous-plants.co.uk/
> would
> be very interesting to those who have problems with whitefly in
> greenhouses.


Slightly OT, but the Hampshires webshop's growing conditions refer to 'a
cool greenhouse or a warm one'. Apart from the obvious, can anyone elaborate
on the difference between cool and warm?

Bertie


Charlie Pridham

2006-05-27, 3:21 am


"Bertie Doe" <montebrasite4@ntl.com> wrote in message
news:4do7hfF1aitjnU1@individual.net...
>
> "Sacha Hubbard" wrote in message
> <snip>
identify[color=darkred]
>
> Slightly OT, but the Hampshires webshop's growing conditions refer to 'a
> cool greenhouse or a warm one'. Apart from the obvious, can anyone

elaborate
> on the difference between cool and warm?
>
> Bertie
>

Cold or cool greenhouse = unheated, likely to be cold (possibly below zero
in winter)
Warm greenhouse = one in which the temperature is prevented from falling
below freezing, allows for a greater range of plants to be kept.
Hot house = a greenhouse where the minimum temperature is maintained high
enough to keep tropical plants and bankrupt the owner.

--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)


Bertie Doe

2006-05-27, 4:21 pm


"Charlie Pridham" wrote in message>
> "Bertie Doe" < wrote in message
> identify
> elaborate
> Cold or cool greenhouse = unheated, likely to be cold (possibly below zero
> in winter)
> Warm greenhouse = one in which the temperature is prevented from falling
> below freezing, allows for a greater range of plants to be kept.
> Hot house = a greenhouse where the minimum temperature is maintained high
> enough to keep tropical plants and bankrupt the owner.
>

Thanks Charlie
Keeping the greenhouse warm in Winter is going to prove too expensive. I
shall google around for a heater say, 100watts (I'm guessing) and build a
coldframe.

Bertie


LinkBot





Other archives available: Cellular phones topics archive | Web Design forum archive | Software help archive | Hardware reviews archive | Programming topics archive

Copyright 2004 - 2008 homeownerschat.com