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I grew an apple tree by mistake! How do I look after it?

classixuk

2006-05-29, 5:21 am

Hi everyone,

This is my first post on the forum and I'd like to tell you about my
wonderful apple tree that I grew by mistake and hopefully gain some
advice on how to look after it.

_How_the_accident_happened_
Back in 1999 I met my partner and in our first year of living together
we decided to explore the world of camping. On our first weekend
camping we arrived at the campsite after sundown, unpacked our (brand
new) tent and attempted to erect it for the first time in the flood of
our car headlights. It was hilarious.
The following weekend we practiced putting up the tent in our garden so
that should we ever arrive at a campsite after dark again we would know
exactly what to do.
After successfully erecting the tent 3 times we left it up over the
weekend and "camped" in the garden. LOL. Anyway, my partner loves fruit
but is very messy with the cores etc. and so I threw the apple cores out
of the tent and into the borders of our garden so that the birds would
clen his mess.

_A_new_hedge_
Within a couple of years I began noticing that our hedge had one or two
"freak" branches whose leaves were lighter in colour and seemed to grow
outwards from the hedge; protruding into our lawned area. I vigourously
cut back these stubborn 'branches'. In fact, once I even pruned the
entire hedge within a inch of it's life hoping to eliminate the problem
branches.

_Is_that_an_apple_tree_in_your_garden_son?_
Through 2003-2005 my partner and I were concentrating on expanding our
businesses and the hedge I once I had time to prune became neglected
and the lawn was mown just twice per year! The "alien branches" grew
outwards and upwards and quite frankly seemed to spoil the aesthetics
of my garden.
The branches were growing in a spot where I already have a 6ft tree. I
have no idea what this particular 6ft tree is called, but in Spring
it's leaves turn the colour of claret and it produces the most
beautiful pink blossom - in Autumn it produces small berries which the
birds often eat. In Spring of 2005, the light green leaves of the
"alien branches" clashed terribly with the claret coloured leaves of
the tree it seemed to be growing in the middle of. I intended to cut
back the now 5ft branches as soon as I had time. The time never came.
Around September of last year my mother and father were visiting my
home and my father remarked, "Is that an apple tree in your garden
son?". Well of course, I only had 2 trees in my garden (to my
knowledge), neither of which were apple trees so I responded
accordingly. My father was quite persistent in telling me I was wrong
as he could quite clearly see apples in my "claret" tree. I thought he
was hallucinating, but then my mother began telling me she could see
apples too.
I took them both into my garden to show them they were both very much
mistaken, but low and behold, on my "alien" branches (which were now
quite thick) was around a dozen apples!
The apples weren't little crab apples either. They were the size of
apples I usually buy in the supermarket, with a matt light coloured
green skin. They began falling from the tree around October and I
managed to pick 3 or so that the birds had not pecked at.
My partner was the first to taste one. "Mmmnnnn, juicy and crunchy." I
tasted one myself. It had a firm and crunchy texture, with a mildly
sharp flavour before becoming sweet. You know those apples called
"Granny Smiths"; it reminded me a lot of those.

_This_year's_fruit_
I hope we will get some more fruit this year. Since discovering the
true identity of the "alien branches" I have not cut them back, but
have pruned the hedge to allow more light to hit the apple tree. The
apple tree is now around 7 feet tall and this spring was absolutely
covered in the most beautiful white blossom. The blossom disappeared
around 3 weeks ago.

This will be my first year looking after an apple tree and I have so
many questions. How do I know when the fruit is ready to pick? Is it
true that the apples I have growing in my garden are unique to my tree?
If I have grown a new variety, can I name it after my cat? If my tree
produces lots of fruit this year, how could I share my tree with others
who would like an apple tree like mine (grows well and produces good
edible fruit without being cared for at all and in a cold climate;
Liverpool England). Will the apple tree eventually "strangle" my claret
tree? If I move home can I take my apple tree with me? How do I stop the
birds from pecking at every apple (half the stock is fine, but I would
like some apples for myself too)?

I am sure there are lots of other answers to questions that I do not
even know I need to ask yet but as I said, I grew an apple tree by
mistake and now I need to know how best to look after it!

Thanks for reading my post.

Classixuk.

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classixuk

Allen Caius

2006-05-29, 7:21 am

The message <classixuk.28k7jy@gardenbanter.co.uk>
from classixuk <classixuk.28k7jy@gardenbanter.co.uk> contains these words:
> Hi everyone,
> This is my first post on the forum and I'd like to tell you about my
> wonderful apple tree that I grew by mistake and hopefully gain some
> advice on how to look after it.
\snip\

I'm sure you will receive advice from many who know more about fruit
growing than me but from my experiences I think you are lucky to have
apples so soon from a discarded core. My brother and I once had a
competition to see who could grow the best apple tree from a pip. It
took about ten years before either of us managed any apples at all and
around fifteen years to get full production!

When sowing from seed you will get a tree that is of mixed parentage;
apples (they say) never come true from seed. This makes it very
exciting when you take your first bite - you don't know if it will be
sweet and crunchy or bitter, etc..

If grown from seed you will not know how vigorous it may be.
Commercially bought trees have different rootstocks for different
situations. For example, a person with a small garden would reuire a
tree that will not grow huge. The growth is controlled by the rootstock
and so the commercial growers will sell you a tree with a dwarfing
rootstock for that purpose. On the other hand, if you have a huge
garden you will have room for bigger trees and can buy trees grown on
more vigorous rootstocks. Your tree may be very vigorous and therefore
I would recommend you get a book on pruning fruit trees in order to keep
the tree under control and in good fruiting fettle.

One can tell when an apple is ready for picking by cupping it in the
hand and lifting *gently* against the joint. If ready, it will come
free in your hand.

Hope this is of some help.

--
Cheers,

Allen - currently growing 6 apple trees; all different varieties.

2006-05-29, 7:21 am

classixuk <classixuk.28k7jy@gardenbanter.co.uk> writes

>This will be my first year looking after an apple tree and I have so
>many questions. How do I know when the fruit is ready to pick?

Lift the apple gently - if ripe it will part from the stem.
They won't all ripen at once - the ones that get more sun will ripen
first.
If you start getting more than the odd windfall, they're probably ready
to pick.

Remember apples need a pollinator (another apple tree) to set fruit -
the fact that yours set fruit last year means you have a pollinator
within reach, but if you see one of your neighbours getting rid of their
apple trees, you might start thinking of getting a second apple tree for
yourself (needs to be one that flowers at the same time)

>Is it true that the apples I have growing in my garden are unique to my
>tree? If I have grown a new variety, can I name it after my cat? If my
>tree produces lots of fruit this year, how could I share my tree with
>others who would like an apple tree like mine (grows well and produces
>good edible fruit without being cared for at all and in a cold climate;
>Liverpool England).

Grafting on to a rootstock - the resulting tree will be identical
genetically.

> Will the apple tree eventually "strangle" my claret tree? If I move
>home can I take my apple tree with me?

Not easily, so you may want to learn how to graft, so you can take a
grafted youngster with you.

>How do I stop the birds from pecking at every apple (half the stock is
>fine, but I would like some apples for myself too)?

Not easy. But the damage doesn't penetrate - just cut it away with a
knife the same way as you'd cut the eyes out of a potato.

--
Kay

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