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Author ID an ivy
Sacha

2007-10-21, 1:25 pm

We saw a very pretty ivy the other day that we didn't recognise. It was a
middling sized leaf,the points quite sharply defined and the colour was a
bright green middle with a dusty green outer edge.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'


helene@urbed.coop

2007-10-24, 9:25 am

On 21 Oct, 15:28, Sacha <sa...@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> We saw a very pretty ivy the other day that we didn't recognise. It was a
> middling sized leaf,the points quite sharply defined and the colour was a
> bright green middle with a dusty green outer edge.


Could be a hedera helix 'Gold Heart' or 'Buttercup', these two are the
most popular with the variegation the other way around, dark centred
with yellow on the edges.

Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\)

2007-10-24, 9:25 am


<helene@urbed.coop> wrote in message
news:1193219198.832498.158540@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> On 21 Oct, 15:28, Sacha <sa...@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Could be a hedera helix 'Gold Heart' or 'Buttercup', these two are the
> most popular with the variegation the other way around, dark centred
> with yellow on the edges.
>

Anyone got any sensible suggestions?


Charlie Pridham

2007-10-24, 9:25 am

In article <471f2c42@212.67.96.135>, reply@newsgroups.com says...
>
> <helene@urbed.coop> wrote in message
> news:1193219198.832498.158540@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> Anyone got any sensible suggestions?
>
>
>

No, but I know its not the two above! try the fibrex site
www.fibrex.co.uk they have a national collection and there are a lot of
pictures on their site
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea
Sacha

2007-10-24, 9:25 am

On 24/10/07 10:46, in article
1193219198.832498.158540@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com, "helene@urbed.coop"
<helene@urbed.coop> wrote:

> On 21 Oct, 15:28, Sacha <sa...@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Could be a hedera helix 'Gold Heart' or 'Buttercup', these two are the
> most popular with the variegation the other way around, dark centred
> with yellow on the edges.
>

As I said it's two colours of green, not green with yellow.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'


Sacha

2007-10-24, 9:25 am

On 24/10/07 14:26, in article
MPG.2189587c944b31bb9896a3@News.Individual.NET, "Charlie Pridham"
<charlie@roselandhouse.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <471f2c42@212.67.96.135>, reply@newsgroups.com says...
> No, but I know its not the two above!


;-))

>try the fibrex site
> www.fibrex.co.uk they have a national collection and there are a lot of
> pictures on their site


I've had a look and thanks for the idea, Charlie. But I can't see it there.
If I could only remember where we saw it.....!
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'


Jennifer Sparkes

2007-10-24, 1:25 pm

The message <MPG.2189587c944b31bb9896a3@News.Individual.NET>
from Charlie Pridham <charlie@roselandhouse.co.uk> contains these words:


> No, but I know its not the two above! try the fibrex site
> www.fibrex.co.uk they have a national collection and there are a lot of
> pictures on their site



... or this site:-

http://www.glasshouseworks.com/trop-gh.html

... Jennifer
helene@urbed.coop

2007-10-24, 1:25 pm

On 24 Oct, 14:26, Charlie Pridham <char...@roselandhouse.co.uk> wrote:
> No, but I know its not the two above! try the fibrex sitewww.fibrex.co.ukthey have a national collection and there are a lot of
> pictures on their site


That's where I refer too when I want something different for a design
I do. There's also some wonderful american websites to peruse. They
seem to like hederas for some reason. The thing is there's less 'light
heart' and dark edges hederas than dark heart and light coloured
edges, hence my thought on the two above which both have a light heart
and dark edges as Sacha query.

helene@urbed.coop

2007-10-24, 1:25 pm

On 24 Oct, 14:51, Sacha <sa...@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> As I said it's two colours of green, not green with yellow.


I get you. Knowing that you also are very observant, what with your
job etc. I'd imagine you didn't think that as the hedera progressed up
where you've seen it, unless it was a ground cover, it might have
changed colour progressively from light green to yellow. I'm saying
this because with age it is very difficult to id hederas, and also
with sun/shade factor and soil condition they do change colours. Mine
do all the time.

When I worked in Reddish, we've spent sometime looking at ivies, and
depending on pruning, some flowered quicker than others - it wasn't an
age thing at all as we might think - and also undergrowth were all
yellow rather than variegated on the variegated species. Hedera Eva
for example is two tone green when little and as it progresses turns
more yellow.


Sacha

2007-10-24, 1:25 pm

On 24/10/07 18:24, in article
1193246679.625762.61990@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com, "helene@urbed.coop"
<helene@urbed.coop> wrote:

> On 24 Oct, 14:26, Charlie Pridham <char...@roselandhouse.co.uk> wrote:
>
> That's where I refer too when I want something different for a design
> I do. There's also some wonderful american websites to peruse. They
> seem to like hederas for some reason. The thing is there's less 'light
> heart' and dark edges hederas than dark heart and light coloured
> edges, hence my thought on the two above which both have a light heart
> and dark edges as Sacha query.
>


Both the ivies you offered have yellow on them. We grow one of them
ourselves and sell both, among others. The ivy I described has no yellow on
it so I didn't mention the word 'yellow'. If yellow had been present
anywhere on the plant, I would certainly have said so to assist the ID.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'


Sacha

2007-10-24, 1:25 pm

On 24/10/07 17:38, in article 3130303030383534471F833147@zetnet.co.uk,
"Jennifer Sparkes" <jsparkes@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:

> The message <MPG.2189587c944b31bb9896a3@News.Individual.NET>
> from Charlie Pridham <charlie@roselandhouse.co.uk> contains these words:
>
>
>
>
> ... or this site:-
>
> http://www.glasshouseworks.com/trop-gh.html
>
> ... Jennifer


Thanks, Jennifer. I'll have a dig through that - the collection is sizable!
At first glance, I don't see it, though. In the meantime, given the way
things are developing, I think I better drop this subject!
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'


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