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OT-ish Catalogue survey!
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| Apart from Latin name and colour (if no photo) what sort of info do people
think most important in a plant catalogue. I know it needs to be
informative but not too wordy, IMO!
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'
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| judith.lea 2007-10-25, 9:25 am |
| On Oct 25, 1:31 pm, Sacha <sa...@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> Apart from Latin name and colour (if no photo) what sort of info do people
> think most important in a plant catalogue. I know it needs to be
> informative but not too wordy, IMO!
>
> --
> Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
> South Devon
> (remove weeds from address)
> 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
> children.'
Hi Sacha, I think it really depends on the type of gardener looking
for info, in my case I would want something simple and at my level of
knowledge. In say your own case, you would want something much more
informative and in depth, perhaps?
Judith
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| On 25/10/07 13:32, in article
1193315526.978627.64740@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com, "judith.lea"
<judith.lea99@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 25, 1:31 pm, Sacha <sa...@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Hi Sacha, I think it really depends on the type of gardener looking
> for info, in my case I would want something simple and at my level of
> knowledge. In say your own case, you would want something much more
> informative and in depth, perhaps?
>
> Judith
>
It's our own catalogue I'm thinking of, Judith. We want to keep it simple
to start with but as the plants we're going to sell via mail order will only
be the more rare and unusual ones, it would be interesting to have an
overall idea of what people look for in terms of information.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'
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| judith.lea 2007-10-25, 9:25 am |
| On Oct 25, 1:38 pm, Sacha <sa...@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> On 25/10/07 13:32, in article
> 1193315526.978627.64...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com, "judith.lea"
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> <judith.le...@googlemail.com> wrote:
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> It's our own catalogue I'm thinking of, Judith. We want to keep it simple
> to start with but as the plants we're going to sell via mail order will only
> be the more rare and unusual ones, it would be interesting to have an
> overall idea of what people look for in terms of information.
> --
> Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
> South Devon
> (remove weeds from address)
> 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
> children.'- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -
Aah, at last you are going to do mail order, I would love to seethe
catalogue when it is ready. I find when looking at catalogues that
the picture is usually too small and it doesn't give me a real idea of
what the plant is like. i.e. a pic may just show one small flower up
close and not enough detail of the entire plant - just a thought.
Good luck with the mail order.
Judith
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| On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:38:28 +0100, Sacha
<sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
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>It's our own catalogue I'm thinking of, Judith. We want to keep it simple
>to start with but as the plants we're going to sell via mail order will only
>be the more rare and unusual ones, it would be interesting to have an
>overall idea of what people look for in terms of information.
Name, where it will grow well, height, spread, any particular care
pattern (eg: pruning, feeding, watering etc)
If you're going to add in history of plant, where it comes from, any
folk lore uses, tnen you'd be making it more interesting. Photos are
nice of course.
--
http://www.orderonlinepickupinstore.co.uk
Ah fetch it yourself if you can't wait for delivery
http://www.freedeliveryuk.co.uk
Or get it delivered for free
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| Rhiannon_s 2007-10-25, 9:25 am |
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"Sacha" <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:C3464B1E.5D070%sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk...
> Apart from Latin name and colour (if no photo) what sort of info do people
> think most important in a plant catalogue. I know it needs to be
> informative but not too wordy, IMO!
>
>
Whether it is hardy or not. I am so sick of getting catalogues which either
don't mention hardiness or just randomly mention it. I don't buy plants
that aren't hardy, so it is an essential for me.
--
Rhiannon_s
There is no God but Eris, and Jay and Silent Bob are her Prophets.
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| On 25/10/07 14:15, in article 13i15qc4a4sdp7d@corp.supernews.com,
"Rhiannon_s" <mddestiny@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> "Sacha" <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:C3464B1E.5D070%sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk...
> Whether it is hardy or not. I am so sick of getting catalogues which either
> don't mention hardiness or just randomly mention it. I don't buy plants
> that aren't hardy, so it is an essential for me.
>
> --
> Rhiannon_s
> There is no God but Eris, and Jay and Silent Bob are her Prophets.
>
>
Yes, we'll certainly be doing that because quite a few of these will be the
rare and unusual, so will indeed be conservatory plants or 'take them into a
frost free greenhouse for the winter', type of thing.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'
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| On 25/10/07 13:53, in article 4641i3l47mbvmr8038ik6ahjna8i8l29b6@4ax.com,
"Mogga" <di@nospamohpleasenospammogga.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:38:28 +0100, Sacha
> <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> Name, where it will grow well, height, spread, any particular care
> pattern (eg: pruning, feeding, watering etc)
Yes. All good ideas.
> If you're going to add in history of plant, where it comes from, any
> folk lore uses, tnen you'd be making it more interesting. Photos are
> nice of course.
Hmmmm, it would be interesting but it might make it a bit long and literally
heavy! We're hoping to have a 'page' on the web site with all or most of
these on it but I think we've got to think of posting it out, too.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'
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| On 25/10/07 13:50, in article
1193316630.976394.63370@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com, "judith.lea"
<judith.lea99@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 25, 1:38 pm, Sacha <sa...@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Aah, at last you are going to do mail order, I would love to seethe
> catalogue when it is ready. I find when looking at catalogues that
> the picture is usually too small and it doesn't give me a real idea of
> what the plant is like. i.e. a pic may just show one small flower up
> close and not enough detail of the entire plant - just a thought.
> Good luck with the mail order.
>
> Judith
>
Yes, we're going to bite the bullet! And when we finally get it all
together, I'll certainly send you one. But don't forget you now have Guy
Sissons living in France, near Bordeaux. Some of his stuff might be too
tender for your winters in terms of permanent planting but Cestrum nocturnum
in pots would be scrumptious! His web site is more than worth a look:
http://www.plantsman.com/
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'
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| Charlie Pridham 2007-10-25, 1:25 pm |
| In article <C3464B1E.5D070%sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk>,
sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk says...
> Apart from Latin name and colour (if no photo) what sort of info do people
> think most important in a plant catalogue. I know it needs to be
> informative but not too wordy, IMO!
>
>
I would have said, what it does and when it does it, is it big medium or
little and is it hardy or not.
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea
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| Charlie Pridham 2007-10-25, 1:25 pm |
| In article <C34677C5.5D094%sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk>,
sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk says...
> On 25/10/07 13:53, in article 4641i3l47mbvmr8038ik6ahjna8i8l29b6@4ax.com,
> "Mogga" <di@nospamohpleasenospammogga.com> wrote:
>
>
> Yes. All good ideas.
>
>
> Hmmmm, it would be interesting but it might make it a bit long and literally
> heavy! We're hoping to have a 'page' on the web site with all or most of
> these on it but I think we've got to think of posting it out, too.
>
>
why? we gave up the printed catalogue 6 years ago! most people who don't
like computers know someone to do it for them.
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea
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| Anne Jackson 2007-10-25, 1:25 pm |
| The message from Sacha <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> contains these
words:
> Apart from Latin name and colour (if no photo) what sort of info do people
> think most important in a plant catalogue. I know it needs to be
> informative but not too wordy, IMO!
Height and spread, and whether or not it's hardy would do for me.
--
AnneJ
You may search my time-worn face,
You'll find a merry eye that twinkles.
I am NOT an old lady
Just a little girl with wrinkles!
- Edythe E. Bregnard
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| Dave Hill 2007-10-25, 5:25 pm |
| On 25 Oct, 18:06, Anne Jackson <amygd...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
> The message from Sacha <sa...@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> contains these
> words:
>
>
> Height and spread, and whether or not it's hardy would do for me.
>
> --
> AnneJ
>
> You may search my time-worn face,
> You'll find a merry eye that twinkles.
> I am NOT an old lady
> Just a little girl with wrinkles!
> - Edythe E. Bregnard
I'd be inclined to publish a descriptive plant list with a much more
descriptive catalogue with pics etc on your web site, the lists you
can then print yourself as required rather than have a bill for
several hundred pounds from the printer.
David Hill
Abacus Nurseries
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| On 25/10/07 17:37, in article
MPG.218ad6b36426d8e19896a8@News.Individual.NET, "Charlie Pridham"
<charlie@roselandhouse.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <C34677C5.5D094%sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk>,
> sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk says...
> why? we gave up the printed catalogue 6 years ago! most people who don't
> like computers know someone to do it for them.
Oh good! We do sometimes get asked for plant lists though. Do you send
those out? We don't as up until now we haven't done mail order.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'
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| On 25/10/07 20:33, in article
1193340830.193080.93020@z9g2000hsf.googlegroups.com, "Dave Hill"
<david@abacus-nurseries.co.uk> wrote:
> On 25 Oct, 18:06, Anne Jackson <amygd...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> I'd be inclined to publish a descriptive plant list with a much more
> descriptive catalogue with pics etc on your web site, the lists you
> can then print yourself as required rather than have a bill for
> several hundred pounds from the printer.
> David Hill
> Abacus Nurseries
>
Wonderful, David. You and Charlie have probably saved us a lot of time and
money.
Thank you to everyone else. Please keep the ideas/wants/needs/suggestions
coming. It's genuinely helpful.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'
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| On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:41:41 +0100, Sacha
<sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>On 25/10/07 13:53, in article 4641i3l47mbvmr8038ik6ahjna8i8l29b6@4ax.com,
>"Mogga" <di@nospamohpleasenospammogga.com> wrote:
>
>
>Yes. All good ideas.
>
>
>Hmmmm, it would be interesting but it might make it a bit long and literally
>heavy! We're hoping to have a 'page' on the web site with all or most of
>these on it but I think we've got to think of posting it out, too.
If the interesting stuff is on the website it probably isn't needed on
the catalogue too. But if you're doing the sort of keep catalogue with
a separate pricelist so people can keep it for years as a reference
then the info might assist.
Is it chiltern seeds who do the tall but narrow listing with no
pictures? I always thought that was a nice listing.
--
http://www.orderonlinepickupinstore.co.uk
Ah fetch it yourself if you can't wait for delivery
http://www.freedeliveryuk.co.uk
Or get it delivered for free
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| Anne Jackson 2007-10-25, 5:25 pm |
| The message from Sacha <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> contains these
words:
> "Dave Hill" <david@abacus-nurseries.co.uk> wrote:
> Wonderful, David. You and Charlie have probably saved us a lot of time
> and money.
> Thank you to everyone else. Please keep the ideas/wants/needs/suggestions
> coming. It's genuinely helpful.
I would keep it simple, Sacha, particularly at the start. I don't know
how others shop for plants, but I tend to look through my books, or see
a particular plant on a gardening programme, and then go looking for
someone to supply it.
--
AnneJ
You may search my time-worn face,
You'll find a merry eye that twinkles.
I am NOT an old lady
Just a little girl with wrinkles!
- Edythe E. Bregnard
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| Bob Hobden 2007-10-25, 5:25 pm |
|
"Sacha" wrote
> Apart from Latin name and colour (if no photo) what sort of info do people
> think most important in a plant catalogue. I know it needs to be
> informative but not too wordy, IMO!
>
Knowing that Ray produces ,lets say, more unusual plants and interesting
plants, some cultural instructions would be helpful and even perhaps a
"difficulty" index so people don't waste money buying something they have no
hope of ever growing. On top of that a note of where they come from in the
wild and the type of terrain helps growers understand the plant.
Put me on the mailing list. :-)
--
Regards
Bob Hobden
17mls W. of London.UK
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| On 25/10/07 22:28, in article 31303030343236304721189A11@zetnet.co.uk, "Anne
Jackson" <amygdala@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
> The message from Sacha <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> contains these
> words:
>
>
> I would keep it simple, Sacha, particularly at the start. I don't know
> how others shop for plants, but I tend to look through my books, or see
> a particular plant on a gardening programme, and then go looking for
> someone to supply it.
Thanks, Anne. The overall consensus does seem to be tending towards simple
but sufficiently informative a to soil and position and later care. This
kind of confirms what we learn from customers in the nursery itself.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'
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| Rhiannon_s 2007-10-25, 8:25 pm |
|
"Charlie Pridham" <charlie@roselandhouse.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.218ad6b36426d8e19896a8@News.Individual.NET...
> In article <C34677C5.5D094%sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk>,
> sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk says...
4641i3l47mbvmr8038ik6ahjna8i8l29b6@4ax.com,[color=darkred]
simple[color=darkred]
will only[color=darkred]
literally[color=darkred]
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> why? we gave up the printed catalogue 6 years ago! most people who don't
> like computers know someone to do it for them.
I'd say I'm quite familiar with computers (I can even remember BBS and was
online before Amazon was[1]) and when I go to a plant website the first
thing I do is see if there is a print catalogue I can order and then I order
from that. I like being able to sit up at nights with a catalogue, or take
it in to work and show collegues (and therefore pimp my fave plants I wont
have space for, but still wish I could buy), I can take a paper catalogue
over to friends houses and get their opinions too. Now granted I could do
that with a laptop, but it is a whole lote easier with a print catalogue,
plus I find it easier and more pleasant to read things in print[2] than on
screen.
[1]For some reason the Amazon benchmark seems to define the start of the
proper internet as we know and...er, know it today. To predate it online is
a mark of age. I have no idea why and am not too keen on it. I preferred
it when I was a net newbie, I was young then.
[2]I have a feeling I should be saying hardcopy instead of print, but I am
resisting that urge.
--
Rhiannon_s
There is no God but Eris, and Jay and Silent Bob are her Prophets.
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| On 25/10/07 23:21, in article 5ocj4tFm2qbdU1@mid.individual.net, "Bob
Hobden" <bobh@invalid.com> wrote:
>
> "Sacha" wrote
> Knowing that Ray produces ,lets say, more unusual plants and interesting
> plants, some cultural instructions would be helpful and even perhaps a
> "difficulty" index so people don't waste money buying something they have no
> hope of ever growing. On top of that a note of where they come from in the
> wild and the type of terrain helps growers understand the plant.
> Put me on the mailing list. :-)
Thanks, Bob - more good input that I'll pass along. I can see we've a long
way to go before we're ready for the off! Of course you'll be on the
mailing list - founder member! ;-) How's the Furcraea doing, or rather
how are its babies doing, if they survived?
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'
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| Rhiannon_s 2007-10-25, 8:25 pm |
|
"Sacha" <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:C346B539.5D1B1%sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk...
> On 25/10/07 20:33, in article
> 1193340830.193080.93020@z9g2000hsf.googlegroups.com, "Dave Hill"
> <david@abacus-nurseries.co.uk> wrote:
>
these[color=darkred]
people[color=darkred]
>
> Wonderful, David. You and Charlie have probably saved us a lot of time
and
> money.
> Thank you to everyone else. Please keep the ideas/wants/needs/suggestions
> coming. It's genuinely helpful.
I hate to say this, but I probably wouldn't buy mail order based on that. I
mean a plant list is fair enough if you live close enough to the nursery to
have a look in person, but if I'm not able to visit then I want a catalogue
to browse at leisure before deciding. I know you say you'll have that on
website, but as I said upthread, I find reading from website rather tedious
and it cuts down on pimping plants to friends and discussing stuff with
friends too.
If you were to give me a choice between mail order company with plant price
lise accompanied by net link, and a plant catalogue with pics, a little
description I'd go with the latter everytime.
Sorry.
--
Rhiannon_s
There is no God but Eris, and Jay and Silent Bob are her Prophets.
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|
| On 25/10/07 23:49, in article 13i27erd0g3hf0d@corp.supernews.com,
"Rhiannon_s" <mddestiny@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
> "Sacha" <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:C346B539.5D1B1%sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk...
> these
> people
> and
>
> I hate to say this, but I probably wouldn't buy mail order based on that. I
> mean a plant list is fair enough if you live close enough to the nursery to
> have a look in person, but if I'm not able to visit then I want a catalogue
> to browse at leisure before deciding. I know you say you'll have that on
> website, but as I said upthread, I find reading from website rather tedious
> and it cuts down on pimping plants to friends and discussing stuff with
> friends too.
>
> If you were to give me a choice between mail order company with plant price
> lise accompanied by net link, and a plant catalogue with pics, a little
> description I'd go with the latter everytime.
>
> Sorry.
Don't be. All this is just what we need - it's very valuable. Catalogues
*are* expensive to produce, so if we do go with one, we need to know what
people really want to see.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'
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| Charlie Pridham 2007-10-26, 3:25 am |
| In article <C346B4DC.5D1B0%sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk>,
sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk says...
> On 25/10/07 17:37, in article
> MPG.218ad6b36426d8e19896a8@News.Individual.NET, "Charlie Pridham"
> <charlie@roselandhouse.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> Oh good! We do sometimes get asked for plant lists though. Do you send
> those out? We don't as up until now we haven't done mail order.
>
>
I will sometimes, but its the same list as on the web site, about 8 sides
of A4 and no pictures, but even that has dwindled to about 5 a year, most
people will go online now.
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea
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| On 25/10/07 20:33, in article
1193340830.193080.93020@z9g2000hsf.googlegroups.com, "Dave Hill"
<david@abacus-nurseries.co.uk> wrote:
> On 25 Oct, 18:06, Anne Jackson <amygd...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> I'd be inclined to publish a descriptive plant list with a much more
> descriptive catalogue with pics etc on your web site, the lists you
> can then print yourself as required rather than have a bill for
> several hundred pounds from the printer.
> David Hill
> Abacus Nurseries
>
Another good idea. That sounds a workable compromise. Thanks, David. Do
you (all) think that because these are going to be the more unusual plants
we have, people wanting to buy them will already know them, be enthusiasts?
Or would you say we will pick up newcomers to the more exotic plant world?
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'
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|
| On 25/10/07 23:49, in article 13i27erd0g3hf0d@corp.supernews.com,
"Rhiannon_s" <mddestiny@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
> "Sacha" <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:C346B539.5D1B1%sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk...
> these
> people
> and
>
> I hate to say this, but I probably wouldn't buy mail order based on that. I
> mean a plant list is fair enough if you live close enough to the nursery to
> have a look in person, but if I'm not able to visit then I want a catalogue
> to browse at leisure before deciding. I know you say you'll have that on
> website, but as I said upthread, I find reading from website rather tedious
> and it cuts down on pimping plants to friends and discussing stuff with
> friends too.
>
> If you were to give me a choice between mail order company with plant price
> lise accompanied by net link, and a plant catalogue with pics, a little
> description I'd go with the latter everytime.
>
> Sorry.
> --
>
> Rhiannon_s
> There is no God but Eris, and Jay and Silent Bob are her Prophets.
>
>
No, this is what I'm asking about, so don't be sorry! It is genuinely
useful. I'm inclined to agree with you about having a catalogue-in-the-hand
but we do have to look at costs, too, so that's why I'm canvassing these
useful opinions.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'
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| Charlie Pridham 2007-10-26, 9:25 am |
| In article <C3476487.5D348%sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk>,
sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk says...
> On 25/10/07 20:33, in article
> 1193340830.193080.93020@z9g2000hsf.googlegroups.com, "Dave Hill"
> <david@abacus-nurseries.co.uk> wrote:
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> Another good idea. That sounds a workable compromise. Thanks, David. Do
> you (all) think that because these are going to be the more unusual plants
> we have, people wanting to buy them will already know them, be enthusiasts?
> Or would you say we will pick up newcomers to the more exotic plant world?
>
>
You will find that "Unusual" plants are often sought by people who have
no idea what they are like or how to grow them, I turn away 90% of
inquiries for Lapageria because the inquirers did not realise they were
going to be exacting to grow and do not have the soil/conditions to suit
them. But you will get that even if you give copious details :~)
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea
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| Janet Tweedy 2007-10-26, 9:25 am |
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I love Bob Brown's catalogues from Cotswold garden flowers. They are
really honest and funny. Sort of
"don't bother with this plant it never does well" or "good honest
perennial, common as muck but does well anywhere"
So often I fall for pictures of flowers that actually only appear in 1s
or 2s and then the whole shrub looks boring. Sometimes the description
sounds absolutely enticing but I tend to forget that it's what they
leave out that's important NOT what they put in, (they are trying to
sell the stuff after all)
What I do hate most is a plant described as 'rare' when it's nothing of
the sort or an infamous runner that is recommended to beginners like
vinca.
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk
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| On 26/10/07 12:48, in article dGDXhYDyPdIHFwVN@ukonline.co.uk, "Janet
Tweedy" <jan@lancedal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
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> I love Bob Brown's catalogues from Cotswold garden flowers. They are
> really honest and funny. Sort of
> "don't bother with this plant it never does well" or "good honest
> perennial, common as muck but does well anywhere"
Derry Watkins's is a bit like that (Special Plants) It's a good idea, IMO.
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> So often I fall for pictures of flowers that actually only appear in 1s
> or 2s and then the whole shrub looks boring. Sometimes the description
> sounds absolutely enticing but I tend to forget that it's what they
> leave out that's important NOT what they put in, (they are trying to
> sell the stuff after all)
All the pics we will eventually use have been taken here, either in the
greenhouses or in our garden. We're quite keen to do that, so that people
see what they do in 'real life' situations.
> What I do hate most is a plant described as 'rare' when it's nothing of
> the sort or an infamous runner that is recommended to beginners like
> vinca.
We won't be selling Vinca mail order -- too many suppliers! Though we do
have one or two unusual ones, now I come to think of it but rare, no.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'
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| Janet Tweedy 2007-10-26, 9:25 am |
| In article <C346B4DC.5D1B0%sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk>, Sacha
<sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> writes
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>Oh good! We do sometimes get asked for plant lists though. Do you send
>those out? We don't as up until now we haven't done mail order.
>
Isn't it possible to get a plant list from the RHS plant finder site
Sacha?
The most irritating omission I've found is when plants are not priced.
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk
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| Janet Tweedy 2007-10-26, 9:25 am |
| In article <MPG.218ba8d3f3cef6a9896aa@News.Individual.NET>, Charlie
Pridham <charlie@roselandhouse.co.uk> writes
>I will sometimes, but its the same list as on the web site, about 8 sides
>of A4 and no pictures, but even that has dwindled to about 5 a year, most
>people will go online now.
I print your list out Charlie and display it at our Gardening Club if
there's relevant plants on it (to that evening's talk)
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk
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| Dave Hill 2007-10-26, 1:25 pm |
| On 26 Oct, 09:31, Sacha <sa...@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> On 25/10/07 20:33, in article
> 1193340830.193080.93...@z9g2000hsf.googlegroups.com, "Dave Hill"
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> Another good idea. That sounds a workable compromise. Thanks, David. Do
> you (all) think that because these are going to be the more unusual plants
> we have, people wanting to buy them will already know them, be enthusiast=
s?
> Or would you say we will pick up newcomers to the more exotic plant world?
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> Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
> South Devon
> (remove weeds from address)
> 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
> children.'
I often brows new seed catalogue in conjunction with either a good
reference book or the web to check on plants I do not know.
I know a catalogue with a picture of every plant is nice (Though often
inaccurate), to produce a few hundred is totally unrealistic price
wise.
I know if I tried to produce my dahlia catalogue with pictures of all
300 varieties I would be looking at several pounds per book and most
would go to "Catalogue collectors" who don't buy.
I have cut back my mailing list to those who have bought from me
together with those who have requested a catalogue in the last 3
seasons.
I found I was sending out almost 1500 a year and the printing and
postage was just to much.
I now print my own and am saving nearly =A3500 a year.
The problem for next season will be what Carrier for larger orders.
I was using City link, but they have changed their terms of buisness
as they dont want small firms.
Min. weekly charge will be =A350 if you don't send enough consignments
to pass that figure.
Also they accept NO liability for any items that are perishable.
I was on the point of taking them to court as they refused liability
for the loss of an order that they put on the back of an unused van in
Swansea and didn't find for 3 weeks, it never left the depot, and as I
took it to their depot it had never been in transit, they said not
their fault.
They finally paid up, but now have new terms and conditions.
David Hill
Abacus Nurseries
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| On 26/10/07 13:07, in article qX0KV9GvhdIHFwTJ@ukonline.co.uk, "Janet
Tweedy" <jan@lancedal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <C346B4DC.5D1B0%sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk>, Sacha
> <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> writes
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> Isn't it possible to get a plant list from the RHS plant finder site
> Sacha?
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> The most irritating omission I've found is when plants are not priced.
We have a list of plants that we show in the Plant Finder and it won't be
hard to extract from that. And I agree about not showing prices - it is
annoying to have to go off to see what's what on another page. We're still
working on that aspect of it and how best to present it.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'
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| Bob Hobden 2007-10-26, 1:25 pm |
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"Sacha" wrote ...
after "Bob Hobden" wrote in reply to
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> Thanks, Bob - more good input that I'll pass along. I can see we've a
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> way to go before we're ready for the off! Of course you'll be on the
> mailing list - founder member! ;-) How's the Furcraea doing, or rather
> how are its babies doing, if they survived?
Thanks.
Furcraea beddinghouseii...One has been outside in a large pot since the year
after Ray gave the two tiny offshoots to me, the other I've kept in the
greenhouse just in case. Neither has flowered yet.
Might plant the larger one (the one that's been outside) in the garden next
spring and just see what happens. I think I can find a sheltered spot, mind
you our M.lasiocarpa (Musa/Musella??) has grown so much this year it's
filling up that corner quickly.
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Regards
Bob Hobden
17mls W. of London.UK
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