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Author Sacha Hubbard
helene@urbed.coop

2007-10-25, 1:25 pm

Here a selection of your favourite rants Sacha Queen of Usenet. Your
majesty, I though to give you some of the treatment you give others.
But these below are all true, written by you to others and one wonders
indeed where you get the time and how do you manage to carry so much
evil in you.

For those of you who want to read more, and I don't blame you because
it does beat Eastenders, here's the link to many more. Have a nice
winter everyone, enjoy the reading!

http://groups.google.co.uk/groups/s...=30&sa=N&hl=en&
http://groups.google.co.uk/groups/s...190&sa=N&hl=en&

Danny <m...@home.net> wrote:
>Danny. I called the police - I made a formal complaint against Mrs Sacha

Hubbard.
They took all the information, I faxed them all the information I
have. While there not be much they can do, it is on file in here area
of residence. I was assured the matter will be looked into as Mrs
Hubbard involved a child in her personal attacks on someone. I faxed
all the information to two local newspapers.
I strongly suggest nobody makes any more comments on this subject in
this newsgroup, ignore it, it is in the hands of the police now, let
them deal with it.
Thank you.
Danny.
The police departments in the areas the alleged children were
photographed will investigate
in order to protect the children .
I have given the names of all the people who are and who may be
involved


My name is Sacha Hubbard. Nobody calls me
Sandra but if it amuses you, you pathetic little man........my
original nom
de net was 'Morley', a name I borrowed from my late lamented wire
haired
dachshund. When I changed from Morley to Sacha I announced it quite
clearly
but you and your rubbishy 'friends' have always fudged that, too.
SO - Perhaps you would be honest and courageous enough to post your
real
name here. Be a 'man' Julie, show us your round and wobbly bits,
assuming
you have some. Don't hide behind a pseudonym while you bully,
slander,
libel and harass; surely you're sufficiently convinced of your
rectitude to
post your real, full name? GO ON - you know you can do it - give it a
go.
You'll feel heaps better - just like a dose of Enos to your grubby
little
soul. So - Julie baby, who are you? Why don't you have the guts to
post
with your real name? Are you ashamed of your claptrap 'opinions' and
lies?
Don't you believe they deserve genuine accreditation? Or are you in
fact
aware that you are a lying, snivelling, libellous, cowardly shit of
the
first water, backed up only by more of that ilk? Is that why you
don't have
the guts to post your real name? Of course it is.
Post your real name here and put it to your posts about me and
others. I
dare you to do so, just as I use my name. Do it, you lily livered
bastard.
Be the 'man' your braggadocio declaims you to be.
Or shall we know that you're all piss and wind? Looks like it - no
guts to
proclaim your real ID - no credibility, Julie.
I think you've done this one before or something similar. It's a sign
of
desperation when people start to repeat themselves, you know. Maybe
in your
case, Alzheimer's or maybe just - pathetic old loser?
--
Sacha
(remove the weeds to email me)

1/6/05 19:36, in article
1117651014.046244.173...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com, "Lux"
<luxperpe...@aol.com> wrote:
> And what does ANY of this have to do with PK?

Rather a lot. Su-T trots along behind all PK's nastiness like some
little
toy dog. This behaviour now is akin to her bizarre actions when I had
to
serve a Cease & Desist letter on PK. Su-T, who was in no way involved
in
the matter, actually emailed my lawyer, using her pseudonym, to ask
him if I
was in fact, his client. She actually expected him to hand out
information
on me to an uninvolved third party, who was emailing him anonymously!
She
was in no way implicated in the matter that led to the sending of
that
letter, and she is in no way involved - by me - in anything happening
on agr
now. It is a long time since I have responded to Su-T, so her posting
of my
family's information on here is harassment and stalking and is
calculated to
cause me distress and I am treating it accordingly.
It is ridiculous of her to claim she is doing it so that the police
don't
approach the wrong person, because, even if the police were involved
in
someone sending me PK's totally innocuous photograph it is absolutely
nothing to do with Su-T and I have not discussed the matter with her.

Despite the fact that I have never posted the names of any of their
families
on here, Su-T (and often, by association, PK) appears to think it's
just
fine to do that to mine and in this instance, Su-T is going to be the
one
carrying the can for that. I have taken the necessary action over it
and
what that is I'm keeping to myself.

Both PK and Su-T need to remember that while I wouldn't *dream* of
posting
details of their actual addresses, family members' names, photos etc.
on
here, others might not be so considerate. Both of them have made
enough
enemies to last most people a lifetime and Su-T, in particular, has a
posting trail, including details of her incarceration in a mental
hospital,
her feuds with legal and medical personnel and her own family, going
back a
very long way. She has written some very disturbing stuff about what
she
would like to happen to children that broke into a house where she
was
storing her things and IMO, it shows a potential for violence that is
terrifying. I'm not having this sort of person pursuing me.

And for what it's worth, IMO, all this from Su-T is an attempt to
avenge PK
for someone sending me an unsolicited photograph of PK by email.
Despite
the accusations and obfuscations being flung around here, I have NOT
sent
that photo on by email, nor has it been transmitted by any other
method and
I have decided that I shall never do so. PK is lucky that she selects
well
those she chooses to fight with. Some of her other and earlier
enemies
would have plastered it on billboards 10 feet high by now.
--
Sacha
(remove the weeds for email)

Either you are as big a liar as your Leader or you are a moronic
fool. On
the assumption that you could be either, given your posting history, I
will
point out to you and the group that when I wrote that, PK had spent
days
ferreting around the internet, trying to prove I was *not* the mother
of the
10th Earl of Jersey, and that the person on ATR who had congratulated
me on
my son's engagement was mistaken that his mother is me, and that she
had
tried to show that I was not, in fact, married to my first husband,
though
why that mattered to her, heaven alone knows. She went into envy
overdrive
and sent post after post after post, asking others for information to
prove
that the poster to atr was mistaken and that I was not WHO I HAD NEVER
SAID
I WAS.
Until that point of her anxious, jealous, manic digging, nobody on
this
group knew from my postings that my son is the 10th Earl of Jersey.
She and
the people who then emailed her the information are the ones
responsible for
that appearing here and forcing me into replying to avert
embarrassment to
the member of atr who was profuse in their apologies to me for letting
PK
loose and, in my own naivete in the hope that the admission from me
would
put the matter to rest, where it belongs. My children are not royalty
and
thus are not relevant to this group unless royal matters somehow
involve
them. I should have known better, I admit. PK has *never* recovered
from
that blow - she is seething with fury and jealousy because having
spent
years, dismissing my knowledge of some aspects of British life that
she will
never know anything about, the proof that she was dead wrong was
staring her
in the face. She hasn't been able to let the matter rest ever since,
which
is why you have been primed like a leaky pump and aimed in my
direction.
And - please - don't try to pretend otherwise to this group. Too many
of us
have seen PK's string-pulling for too many years to believe you are
acting
entirely under your own volition. If there is any action to be taken
against you in the future, PK will most certainly be implicated in
it.
Once, *many* years ago, I made a slip and posted as Sacha Villiers
when
normally I posted as 'Morley' and of course, one of the sweet little
things
here was onto it like a knife and started this whole ball rolling,
even that
long ago. PK wasn't even around then but I do know about the emails
that
went around and I know about them from people who received them, so
lying
won't work.
You, Danny are not very good at this sort of research and I suggest
you give
it up. You have posted one lot of just slightly off information
after
another and all you are doing is proving to this group what a spiteful
fool
you are and how incapable of following genealogical information, just
like
Phyllis, who didn't even know what 'associated' meant and who took
Hull as
gospel - something that even the owner of that site didn't claim for
it! He
was shocked and I'd say, contemptuous of PK's claims, when I wrote to
him,
asking him to update the site after PK's meddling. He hadn't
realised
ignorant fools of her type were using his site to berate and insult
others.

Now, you can carry on like this until doomsday, quite frankly. All
you are
is a bore. If harm comes to my family because of you, you will take
the
consequences and yes, I have taken steps to ensure that. In the
meantime,
post as much drivel as you wish. You chop it around so selectively,
you
omit the malice of PK so deliberately, you make mistakes so
ignorantly, that
to be frank, you are welcome to witter on to the three or four people
who
bother with you. From now on, into the kill file with you, you
mammoth
bore.


Finally, may I point out to you that this is a royalty group and that
as my
family and I are not royal, we have no place in lengthy and really
rather
dull discussions of this sort. PK has spent years threatening me
with
disclosure of my family's history but being under a legal warning from
me,
she has incited you and the vicious Su-T to do her dirty work for her.
Both
will take the consequences, along with you, if any manic lurker here
acts
upon the information you have given them. You have put some members
of my
family in particular, in real danger and believe me, you're going to
know
about that if anything happens.
--

Sacha
(remove the weeds for email)

Either you are as big a liar as your Leader or you are a moronic
fool. On
the assumption that you could be either, given your posting history, I
will
point out to you and the group that when I wrote that, PK had spent
days
ferreting around the internet, trying to prove I was *not* the mother
of the
10th Earl of Jersey, and that the person on ATR who had congratulated
me on
my son's engagement was mistaken that his mother is me, and that she
had
tried to show that I was not, in fact, married to my first husband,
though
why that mattered to her, heaven alone knows. She went into envy
overdrive
and sent post after post after post, asking others for information to
prove
that the poster to atr was mistaken and that I was not WHO I HAD NEVER
SAID
I WAS.
Until that point of her anxious, jealous, manic digging, nobody on
this
group knew from my postings that my son is the 10th Earl of Jersey.
She and
the people who then emailed her the information are the ones
responsible for
that appearing here and forcing me into replying to avert
embarrassment to
the member of atr who was profuse in their apologies to me for letting
PK
loose and, in my own naivete in the hope that the admission from me
would
put the matter to rest, where it belongs. My children are not royalty
and
thus are not relevant to this group unless royal matters somehow
involve
them. I should have known better, I admit. PK has *never* recovered
from
that blow - she is seething with fury and jealousy because having
spent
years, dismissing my knowledge of some aspects of British life that
she will
never know anything about, the proof that she was dead wrong was
staring her
in the face. She hasn't been able to let the matter rest ever since,
which
is why you have been primed like a leaky pump and aimed in my
direction.
And - please - don't try to pretend otherwise to this group. Too many
of us
have seen PK's string-pulling for too many years to believe you are
acting
entirely under your own volition. If there is any action to be taken
against you in the future, PK will most certainly be implicated in
it.
Once, *many* years ago, I made a slip and posted as Sacha Villiers
when
normally I posted as 'Morley' and of course, one of the sweet little
things
here was onto it like a knife and started this whole ball rolling,
even that
long ago. PK wasn't even around then but I do know about the emails
that
went around and I know about them from people who received them, so
lying
won't work.
You, Danny are not very good at this sort of research and I suggest
you give
it up. You have posted one lot of just slightly off information
after
another and all you are doing is proving to this group what a spiteful
fool
you are and how incapable of following genealogical information, just
like
Phyllis, who didn't even know what 'associated' meant and who took
Hull as
gospel - something that even the owner of that site didn't claim for
it! He
was shocked and I'd say, contemptuous of PK's claims, when I wrote to
him,
asking him to update the site after PK's meddling. He hadn't
realised
ignorant fools of her type were using his site to berate and insult
others.

Now, you can carry on like this until doomsday, quite frankly. All
you are
is a bore. If harm comes to my family because of you, you will take
the
consequences and yes, I have taken steps to ensure that. In the
meantime,
post as much drivel as you wish. You chop it around so selectively,
you
omit the malice of PK so deliberately, you make mistakes so
ignorantly, that
to be frank, you are welcome to witter on to the three or four people
who
bother with you. From now on, into the kill file with you, you
mammoth
bore.

Finally, may I point out to you that this is a royalty group and that
as my
family and I are not royal, we have no place in lengthy and really
rather
dull discussions of this sort. PK has spent years threatening me
with
disclosure of my family's history but being under a legal warning from
me,
she has incited you and the vicious Su-T to do her dirty work for her.
Both
will take the consequences, along with you, if any manic lurker here
acts
upon the information you have given them. You have put some members
of my
family in particular, in real danger and believe me, you're going to
know
about that if anything happens.
--

Sacha
(remove the weeds for email)

Either you are as big a liar as your Leader or you are a moronic
fool. On
the assumption that you could be either, given your posting history, I
will
point out to you and the group that when I wrote that, PK had spent
days
ferreting around the internet, trying to prove I was *not* the mother
of the
10th Earl of Jersey, and that the person on ATR who had congratulated
me on
my son's engagement was mistaken that his mother is me, and that she
had
tried to show that I was not, in fact, married to my first husband,
though
why that mattered to her, heaven alone knows. She went into envy
overdrive
and sent post after post after post, asking others for information to
prove
that the poster to atr was mistaken and that I was not WHO I HAD NEVER
SAID
I WAS.
Until that point of her anxious, jealous, manic digging, nobody on
this
group knew from my postings that my son is the 10th Earl of Jersey.
She and
the people who then emailed her the information are the ones
responsible for
that appearing here and forcing me into replying to avert
embarrassment to
the member of atr who was profuse in their apologies to me for letting
PK
loose and, in my own naivete in the hope that the admission from me
would
put the matter to rest, where it belongs. My children are not royalty
and
thus are not relevant to this group unless royal matters somehow
involve
them. I should have known better, I admit. PK has *never* recovered
from
that blow - she is seething with fury and jealousy because having
spent
years, dismissing my knowledge of some aspects of British life that
she will
never know anything about, the proof that she was dead wrong was
staring her
in the face. She hasn't been able to let the matter rest ever since,
which
is why you have been primed like a leaky pump and aimed in my
direction.
And - please - don't try to pretend otherwise to this group. Too many
of us
have seen PK's string-pulling for too many years to believe you are
acting
entirely under your own volition. If there is any action to be taken
against you in the future, PK will most certainly be implicated in
it.
Once, *many* years ago, I made a slip and posted as Sacha Villiers
when
normally I posted as 'Morley' and of course, one of the sweet little
things
here was onto it like a knife and started this whole ball rolling,
even that
long ago. PK wasn't even around then but I do know about the emails
that
went around and I know about them from people who received them, so
lying
won't work.
You, Danny are not very good at this sort of research and I suggest
you give
it up. You have posted one lot of just slightly off information
after
another and all you are doing is proving to this group what a spiteful
fool
you are and how incapable of following genealogical information, just
like
Phyllis, who didn't even know what 'associated' meant and who took
Hull as
gospel - something that even the owner of that site didn't claim for
it! He
was shocked and I'd say, contemptuous of PK's claims, when I wrote to
him,
asking him to update the site after PK's meddling. He hadn't
realised
ignorant fools of her type were using his site to berate and insult
others.

Now, you can carry on like this until doomsday, quite frankly. All
you are
is a bore. If harm comes to my family because of you, you will take
the
consequences and yes, I have taken steps to ensure that. In the
meantime,
post as much drivel as you wish. You chop it around so selectively,
you
omit the malice of PK so deliberately, you make mistakes so
ignorantly, that
to be frank, you are welcome to witter on to the three or four people
who
bother with you. From now on, into the kill file with you, you
mammoth
bore.


Finally, may I point out to you that this is a royalty group and that
as my
family and I are not royal, we have no place in lengthy and really
rather
dull discussions of this sort. PK has spent years threatening me
with
disclosure of my family's history but being under a legal warning from
me,
she has incited you and the vicious Su-T to do her dirty work for her.
Both
will take the consequences, along with you, if any manic lurker here
acts
upon the information you have given them. You have put some members
of my
family in particular, in real danger and believe me, you're going to
know
about that if anything happens.
--


Sacha
(remove the weeds for email)

Either you are as big a liar as your Leader or you are a moronic
fool. On
the assumption that you could be either, given your posting history, I
will
point out to you and the group that when I wrote that, PK had spent
days
ferreting around the internet, trying to prove I was *not* the mother
of the
10th Earl of Jersey, and that the person on ATR who had congratulated
me on
my son's engagement was mistaken that his mother is me, and that she
had
tried to show that I was not, in fact, married to my first husband,
though
why that mattered to her, heaven alone knows. She went into envy
overdrive
and sent post after post after post, asking others for information to
prove
that the poster to atr was mistaken and that I was not WHO I HAD NEVER
SAID
I WAS.
Until that point of her anxious, jealous, manic digging, nobody on
this
group knew from my postings that my son is the 10th Earl of Jersey.
She and
the people who then emailed her the information are the ones
responsible for
that appearing here and forcing me into replying to avert
embarrassment to
the member of atr who was profuse in their apologies to me for letting
PK
loose and, in my own naivete in the hope that the admission from me
would
put the matter to rest, where it belongs. My children are not royalty
and
thus are not relevant to this group unless royal matters somehow
involve
them. I should have known better, I admit. PK has *never* recovered
from
that blow - she is seething with fury and jealousy because having
spent
years, dismissing my knowledge of some aspects of British life that
she will
never know anything about, the proof that she was dead wrong was
staring her
in the face. She hasn't been able to let the matter rest ever since,
which
is why you have been primed like a leaky pump and aimed in my
direction.
And - please - don't try to pretend otherwise to this group. Too many
of us
have seen PK's string-pulling for too many years to believe you are
acting
entirely under your own volition. If there is any action to be taken
against you in the future, PK will most certainly be implicated in
it.
Once, *many* years ago, I made a slip and posted as Sacha Villiers
when
normally I posted as 'Morley' and of course, one of the sweet little
things
here was onto it like a knife and started this whole ball rolling,
even that
long ago. PK wasn't even around then but I do know about the emails
that
went around and I know about them from people who received them, so
lying
won't work.
You, Danny are not very good at this sort of research and I suggest
you give
it up. You have posted one lot of just slightly off information
after
another and all you are doing is proving to this group what a spiteful
fool
you are and how incapable of following genealogical information, just
like
Phyllis, who didn't even know what 'associated' meant and who took
Hull as
gospel - something that even the owner of that site didn't claim for
it! He
was shocked and I'd say, contemptuous of PK's claims, when I wrote to
him,
asking him to update the site after PK's meddling. He hadn't
realised
ignorant fools of her type were using his site to berate and insult
others.

Now, you can carry on like this until doomsday, quite frankly. All
you are
is a bore. If harm comes to my family because of you, you will take
the
consequences and yes, I have taken steps to ensure that. In the
meantime,
post as much drivel as you wish. You chop it around so selectively,
you
omit the malice of PK so deliberately, you make mistakes so
ignorantly, that
to be frank, you are welcome to witter on to the three or four people
who
bother with you. From now on, into the kill file with you, you
mammoth
bore.


Finally, may I point out to you that this is a royalty group and that
as my
family and I are not royal, we have no place in lengthy and really
rather
dull discussions of this sort. PK has spent years threatening me
with
disclosure of my family's history but being under a legal warning from
me,
she has incited you and the vicious Su-T to do her dirty work for her.
Both
will take the consequences, along with you, if any manic lurker here
acts
upon the information you have given them. You have put some members
of my
family in particular, in real danger and believe me, you're going to
know
about that if anything happens.
--
Sacha
(remove the weeds for email)

Either you are as big a liar as your Leader or you are a moronic
fool. On
the assumption that you could be either, given your posting history, I
will
point out to you and the group that when I wrote that, PK had spent
days
ferreting around the internet, trying to prove I was *not* the mother
of the
10th Earl of Jersey, and that the person on ATR who had congratulated
me on
my son's engagement was mistaken that his mother is me, and that she
had
tried to show that I was not, in fact, married to my first husband,
though
why that mattered to her, heaven alone knows. She went into envy
overdrive
and sent post after post after post, asking others for information to
prove
that the poster to atr was mistaken and that I was not WHO I HAD NEVER
SAID
I WAS.
Until that point of her anxious, jealous, manic digging, nobody on
this
group knew from my postings that my son is the 10th Earl of Jersey.
She and
the people who then emailed her the information are the ones
responsible for
that appearing here and forcing me into replying to avert
embarrassment to
the member of atr who was profuse in their apologies to me for letting
PK
loose and, in my own naivete in the hope that the admission from me
would
put the matter to rest, where it belongs. My children are not royalty
and
thus are not relevant to this group unless royal matters somehow
involve
them. I should have known better, I admit. PK has *never* recovered
from
that blow - she is seething with fury and jealousy because having
spent
years, dismissing my knowledge of some aspects of British life that
she will
never know anything about, the proof that she was dead wrong was
staring her
in the face. She hasn't been able to let the matter rest ever since,
which
is why you have been primed like a leaky pump and aimed in my
direction.
And - please - don't try to pretend otherwise to this group. Too many
of us
have seen PK's string-pulling for too many years to believe you are
acting
entirely under your own volition. If there is any action to be taken
against you in the future, PK will most certainly be implicated in
it.
Once, *many* years ago, I made a slip and posted as Sacha Villiers
when
normally I posted as 'Morley' and of course, one of the sweet little
things
here was onto it like a knife and started this whole ball rolling,
even that
long ago. PK wasn't even around then but I do know about the emails
that
went around and I know about them from people who received them, so
lying
won't work.
You, Danny are not very good at this sort of research and I suggest
you give
it up. You have posted one lot of just slightly off information
after
another and all you are doing is proving to this group what a spiteful
fool
you are and how incapable of following genealogical information, just
like
Phyllis, who didn't even know what 'associated' meant and who took
Hull as
gospel - something that even the owner of that site didn't claim for
it! He
was shocked and I'd say, contemptuous of PK's claims, when I wrote to
him,
asking him to update the site after PK's meddling. He hadn't
realised
ignorant fools of her type were using his site to berate and insult
others.

Now, you can carry on like this until doomsday, quite frankly. All
you are
is a bore. If harm comes to my family because of you, you will take
the
consequences and yes, I have taken steps to ensure that. In the
meantime,
post as much drivel as you wish. You chop it around so selectively,
you
omit the malice of PK so deliberately, you make mistakes so
ignorantly, that
to be frank, you are welcome to witter on to the three or four people
who
bother with you. From now on, into the kill file with you, you
mammoth
bore.

Finally, may I point out to you that this is a royalty group and that
as my
family and I are not royal, we have no place in lengthy and really
rather
dull discussions of this sort. PK has spent years threatening me
with
disclosure of my family's history but being under a legal warning from
me,
she has incited you and the vicious Su-T to do her dirty work for her.
Both
will take the consequences, along with you, if any manic lurker here
acts
upon the information you have given them. You have put some members
of my
family in particular, in real danger and believe me, you're going to
know
about that if anything happens.
--

Sacha
(remove the weeds for email)

Either you are as big a liar as your Leader or you are a moronic
fool. On
the assumption that you could be either, given your posting history, I
will
point out to you and the group that when I wrote that, PK had spent
days
ferreting around the internet, trying to prove I was *not* the mother
of the
10th Earl of Jersey, and that the person on ATR who had congratulated
me on
my son's engagement was mistaken that his mother is me, and that she
had
tried to show that I was not, in fact, married to my first husband,
though
why that mattered to her, heaven alone knows. She went into envy
overdrive
and sent post after post after post, asking others for information to
prove
that the poster to atr was mistaken and that I was not WHO I HAD NEVER
SAID
I WAS.
Until that point of her anxious, jealous, manic digging, nobody on
this
group knew from my postings that my son is the 10th Earl of Jersey.
She and
the people who then emailed her the information are the ones
responsible for
that appearing here and forcing me into replying to avert
embarrassment to
the member of atr who was profuse in their apologies to me for letting
PK
loose and, in my own naivete in the hope that the admission from me
would
put the matter to rest, where it belongs. My children are not royalty
and
thus are not relevant to this group unless royal matters somehow
involve
them. I should have known better, I admit. PK has *never* recovered
from
that blow - she is seething with fury and jealousy because having
spent
years, dismissing my knowledge of some aspects of British life that
she will
never know anything about, the proof that she was dead wrong was
staring her
in the face. She hasn't been able to let the matter rest ever since,
which
is why you have been primed like a leaky pump and aimed in my
direction.
And - please - don't try to pretend otherwise to this group. Too many
of us
have seen PK's string-pulling for too many years to believe you are
acting
entirely under your own volition. If there is any action to be taken
against you in the future, PK will most certainly be implicated in
it.
Once, *many* years ago, I made a slip and posted as Sacha Villiers
when
normally I posted as 'Morley' and of course, one of the sweet little
things
here was onto it like a knife and started this whole ball rolling,
even that
long ago. PK wasn't even around then but I do know about the emails
that
went around and I know about them from people who received them, so
lying
won't work.
You, Danny are not very good at this sort of research and I suggest
you give
it up. You have posted one lot of just slightly off information
after
another and all you are doing is proving to this group what a spiteful
fool
you are and how incapable of following genealogical information, just
like
Phyllis, who didn't even know what 'associated' meant and who took
Hull as
gospel - something that even the owner of that site didn't claim for
it! He
was shocked and I'd say, contemptuous of PK's claims, when I wrote to
him,
asking him to update the site after PK's meddling. He hadn't
realised
ignorant fools of her type were using his site to berate and insult
others.

Now, you can carry on like this until doomsday, quite frankly. All
you are
is a bore. If harm comes to my family because of you, you will take
the
consequences and yes, I have taken steps to ensure that. In the
meantime,
post as much drivel as you wish. You chop it around so selectively,
you
omit the malice of PK so deliberately, you make mistakes so
ignorantly, that
to be frank, you are welcome to witter on to the three or four people
who
bother with you. From now on, into the kill file with you, you
mammoth
bore.

Finally, may I point out to you that this is a royalty group and that
as my
family and I are not royal, we have no place in lengthy and really
rather
dull discussions of this sort. PK has spent years threatening me
with
disclosure of my family's history but being under a legal warning from
me,
she has incited you and the vicious Su-T to do her dirty work for her.
Both
will take the consequences, along with you, if any manic lurker here
acts
upon the information you have given them. You have put some members
of my
family in particular, in real danger and believe me, you're going to
know
about that if anything happens.
--


Sacha
(remove the weeds for email)

> http://groups-beta.google.com/group...owse_thread/...
> 599e89adc930dc/7eb0dd3bcc3e2190?q=sacha&rnum=18&hl=en#7eb0dd3bcc3e2190
> this from someone who "claims" she does not post her family
> information LOL.


> she used her x husbands name while married to her new one, very WEIRD.


Either you are as big a liar as your Leader or you are a moronic
fool. On
the assumption that you could be either, given your posting history, I
will
point out to you and the group that when I wrote that, PK had spent
days
ferreting around the internet, trying to prove I was *not* the mother
of the
10th Earl of Jersey, and that the person on ATR who had congratulated
me on
my son's engagement was mistaken that his mother is me, and that she
had
tried to show that I was not, in fact, married to my first husband,
though
why that mattered to her, heaven alone knows. She went into envy
overdrive
and sent post after post after post, asking others for information to
prove
that the poster to atr was mistaken and that I was not WHO I HAD NEVER
SAID
I WAS.
Until that point of her anxious, jealous, manic digging, nobody on
this
group knew from my postings that my son is the 10th Earl of Jersey.
She and
the people who then emailed her the information are the ones
responsible for
that appearing here and forcing me into replying to avert
embarrassment to
the member of atr who was profuse in their apologies to me for letting
PK
loose and, in my own naivete in the hope that the admission from me
would
put the matter to rest, where it belongs. My children are not royalty
and
thus are not relevant to this group unless royal matters somehow
involve
them. I should have known better, I admit. PK has *never* recovered
from
that blow - she is seething with fury and jealousy because having
spent
years, dismissing my knowledge of some aspects of British life that
she will
never know anything about, the proof that she was dead wrong was
staring her
in the face. She hasn't been able to let the matter rest ever since,
which
is why you have been primed like a leaky pump and aimed in my
direction.
And - please - don't try to pretend otherwise to this group. Too many
of us
have seen PK's string-pulling for too many years to believe you are
acting
entirely under your own volition. If there is any action to be taken
against you in the future, PK will most certainly be implicated in
it.
Once, *many* years ago, I made a slip and posted as Sacha Villiers
when
normally I posted as 'Morley' and of course, one of the sweet little
things
here was onto it like a knife and started this whole ball rolling,
even that

I've stopped here because frankly the woman does go on and on and
on .....

> [Reply: Your usual BS & threats. Your justifications for acting

ugly, &
[color=darkred]
[color=darkred]
[color=darkred]
[color=darkred]
[color=darkred]
> Really? Then no doubt your family will have something to say to you about
> your behaviour to the families of others. How *very* typical of you to now
> start hiding behind someone else's supposed children. What a filthy wretch
> you are.


Let others make up opinions about people Sacha, why are you ALWAYS in
the middle. You use really nasty language, what happened to you in
your childhood to warrant such a sick mind.

Ageless

2007-10-25, 1:25 pm


<helene@urbed.coop> wrote in message
news:1193329510.344318.126780@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> Here a selection of your favourite rants Sacha Queen of Usenet. Your
> majesty, I though to give you some of the treatment you give others.
> But these below are all true, written by you to others and one wonders
> indeed where you get the time and how do you manage to carry so much
> evil in you.
>



boring pointless, tedious crap snipped

> the middle. You use really nasty language, what happened to you in
> your childhood to warrant such a sick mind.
>


you pointless peasant

<plonk>


ASBO

2007-10-25, 1:25 pm


"Ageless" <notvalid@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:Ry3Ui.92385$e72.81647@fe07.news.easynews.com...
>
> <helene@urbed.coop> wrote in message
> news:1193329510.344318.126780@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> boring pointless, tedious crap snipped
>
>
> you pointless peasant
>
> <plonk>
>


do feed the troll


the pukes been trolling hre for years under different names .....


Charlie Pridham

2007-10-25, 1:25 pm

Have you realy nothing better to do with your time? Its been another
lovely day here!
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea
Alan Holmes

2007-10-25, 1:25 pm


<helene@urbed.coop> wrote in message
news:1193329510.344318.126780@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

And your point was?


Jennifer Sparkes

2007-10-25, 1:25 pm

The message <MPG.218ad904c34ce3859896a9@News.Individual.NET>
from Charlie Pridham <charlie@roselandhouse.co.uk> contains these words:

> Have you realy nothing better to do with your time? Its been another
> lovely day here!


Agree Charlie - but alas not weatherwise here in Bristol.

Grow up Helene ...

Jennifer
keith kent

2007-10-25, 1:25 pm


"Alan Holmes" <alan_holmes@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:cH4Ui.5248$h67.2400@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
>
> <helene@urbed.coop> wrote in message
> news:1193329510.344318.126780@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> And your point was?


There is only one way to deal with people like this -Hunt them down and get
the baseball bat to the kneecaps!:-}
On a serious note i would!!
>
>



Gary Woods

2007-10-25, 1:25 pm

Charlie Pridham <charlie@roselandhouse.co.uk> wrote:

> Its been another
>lovely day here!


And here in the northeastern U.S. as well.... temp approaching 50F, which
is about right (finally!) for the season. I've been happily trimming and
weighing the garlic crop, which hung in the shed to cure for a while.
Greens are still doing nicely in the garden, and Dear Lady is complaining
about the quantity of lettuce I keep bringing in. Time to try out some
Kale, which is in its glory now that things are cooler!

As for the loonies, I've gotten less tolerant in my old age: They get
killfiled as to those misguided souls who have to quote the whole rant
before making a brief reply.



Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G
Gary Woods

2007-10-25, 5:25 pm



>killfiled as to those misguided souls

^^
do

Fat finger syndrome.


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G
BAC

2007-10-25, 5:25 pm


"Gary Woods" <garyusenet@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:h9n1i3lb94hor0ok417thvh4as6avf959c@4ax.com...
> Charlie Pridham <charlie@roselandhouse.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> And here in the northeastern U.S. as well.... temp approaching 50F, which
> is about right (finally!) for the season. I've been happily trimming and
> weighing the garlic crop, which hung in the shed to cure for a while.
> Greens are still doing nicely in the garden, and Dear Lady is complaining
> about the quantity of lettuce I keep bringing in. Time to try out some
> Kale, which is in its glory now that things are cooler!
>


Red Russian Kale has been particularly tasty over here this year, IMO.


Nick Maclaren

2007-10-25, 5:25 pm


In article <H15Ui.850$5R3.101@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
"keith kent" <keith3@ntlworld.com> writes:
|>
|> There is only one way to deal with people like this -Hunt them down and get
|> the baseball bat to the kneecaps!:-}
|> On a serious note i would!!

Now, now - this is uk.rec.gardening - we don't do such things. What I
say is "compost them!"

For some reason, I keep thinking of Helen of Troll - was this the
pest that launched a thousand posts?


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
Sacha

2007-10-25, 5:25 pm

On 25/10/07 17:25, in article
1193329510.344318.126780@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com, "helene@urbed.coop"
<helene@urbed.coop> wrote:

> Here a selection of your favourite rants Sacha Queen of Usenet. Your
> majesty, I though to give you some of the treatment you give others.

<snip>

Thank you, Helene. I'm glad you did that because now those who read your
posts will see how you operate.

For your information, one of the people you cite in that post was served by
my American lawyer with a Cease & Desist letter which I posted to that
group. This was because of a serious libel she made against me.
Another who boasted of her immensely wealthy relatives, naming them and
accusing me of all sorts of unspeakable things up to and including murder,
being the child of a prostitute and being 'run out' of my native island,
was stopped by her relatives after I and others she'd treated the same way,
wrote to them and contacted the charity that employed her to please her rich
father. I warned them they would be sued and indeed they would have been
had they not removed the keyboard from her grasp. So, Helen will you be if
you continue to harass me and stalk me. That's a promise.
Another - the man you quote - turned out to be a designer of pornographic
web sites and to be notorious for the kind of rambling garbage you've
reproduced. You're in good company, Helene - right where you belong.
I must remember to ask our MP about how Quangos use public funds.


Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'


Sacha

2007-10-25, 5:25 pm

On 25/10/07 19:37, in article ffqnq7$jlq$1@gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk, "Nick
Maclaren" <nmm1@cus.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

>
> In article <H15Ui.850$5R3.101@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
> "keith kent" <keith3@ntlworld.com> writes:
> |>
> |> There is only one way to deal with people like this -Hunt them down and get
> |> the baseball bat to the kneecaps!:-}
> |> On a serious note i would!!
>
> Now, now - this is uk.rec.gardening - we don't do such things. What I
> say is "compost them!"
>
> For some reason, I keep thinking of Helen of Troll - was this the
> pest that launched a thousand posts?
>


Lor' I hope not! One is more than enough from that quarter!


--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'


helene@urbed.coop

2007-10-25, 5:25 pm

On Oct 25, 7:51 pm, Sacha <sa...@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> Thank you, Helene. I'm glad you did that because now those who read your
> posts will see how you operate.


Frankly I don't give a turnip about what you think anymore.

I've had enough to show that I can't control myself with idiots like
you. You are not liked by many, and those that do are doing it because
they know your husband or some are simply tolerant of you - I think
its a generation thing. My phone call message to you was kind and
calm, but I can't prove it. That alone is immensely frustrating. I'm
no longer interested in staying in a forum that is controled by a
cheap woman like you. You will twist and change everything, even my
trip to Devon and your nursery. You make it sounds as if I was some
sort of pervert. It is reallly bothering me you see, seeing you
parading all over the place with your lies. Friends tell me to ignore
you but I have gained so much in this forum for my dissertation and
courses that I do. Though not much has come from you I must say. I
wish you were not there or on a long holiday when this forum is nice,
and for you never to return.

Sorry Charlie, Jennifer .... I can't be ignored anymore, it's silly, I
like conversation and I like people, but Sacha won't give it a rest
and will constantly attack me like on the other thread. Being told I'm
morphing, or trolling or whatever isn't nice after so long writing
here, because it makes me look as if I'm not worth being listened too
and therefore I've no place here anymore. You both know who I am but
never say anything. Some idiot claiming to know nothing about
gardening has recently proposed to someone to wait for her plant that
has never flowered for the seeds to drop and grow next year. It's
sometimes so frustrating to see none of you saying anything, just
letting it pass because that idiot happened to be a mate of Sacha. And
that has happened in other forums where Sacha posts.

I'll pop over in the spring, but from now till then I've better things
to do. You know where to find me though. Cheers.

X@X.X

2007-10-25, 5:25 pm

On 25 Oct 2007 18:37:59 GMT, nmm1@cus.cam.ac.uk (Nick Maclaren) wrote:

>
>In article <H15Ui.850$5R3.101@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
>"keith kent" <keith3@ntlworld.com> writes:
>|>
>|> There is only one way to deal with people like this -Hunt them down and get
>|> the baseball bat to the kneecaps!:-}
>|> On a serious note i would!!
>
>Now, now - this is uk.rec.gardening - we don't do such things. What I
>say is "compost them!"
>
>For some reason, I keep thinking of Helen of Troll - was this the
>pest that launched a thousand posts?


The faeces that launched a thousand shits?
Bob Hobden

2007-10-25, 5:25 pm


<helene@urbed.coop> wrote ..
> Here a selection of your favourite rants Sacha


Thank you for that post Helen, most enlightening.
Probably not in the way you intended though. :-)

- -
Regards
Bob Hobden
17mls W. of London.UK


Dave Poole

2007-10-26, 3:25 am

All I can say is that the original morphing of 'La puce' to 'Puke' has
never been better demonstrated than in this last outpouring of vitriol
and bile. The woman's obviously completely deranged. In the 10 years
that I've been on URG no-one has been so completely focused and
persistent in their abuse of others and determination to disrupt.

Dare I say it, but even Mike Crowe seems positively avuncular and
jovial by comparison. At least all he does is stir things up a bit
and go on about 'NG owners', which is relatively harmless with no real
damage done. Puke's infestation of this NG is becoming somewhat
sinister.

Fuschia@summerborder.net

2007-10-26, 9:25 am

On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:25:10 -0700, helene@urbed.coop wrote:

>Here a selection of your favourite rants


Well I don't know either of you personally, but having read those
quotes they seem to be from someone robustly defending themselves from
unpleasant characters, and good luck to her.

On the other hand, from your actions of having researched and posted
them (no doubt selectively to give the worst possible picture), and
particularly from the provocative way you used the lady's name as the
title of the thread, you seem to be someone of a jealous and spiteful
nature.

Why don't you leave this forum alone, or at least restrict your posts
to ones about gardening?
Janet Tweedy

2007-10-26, 9:25 am

In article <1193378596.461425.67960@o3g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, Dave
Poole <daverpoole@hotmail.com> writes
>All I can say is that the original morphing of 'La puce' to 'Puke' has
>never been better demonstrated than in this last outpouring of vitriol
>and bile. The woman's obviously completely deranged. In the 10 years
>that I've been on URG no-one has been so completely focused and
>persistent in their abuse of others and determination to disrupt.
>
>Dare I say it, but even Mike Crowe seems positively avuncular and
>jovial by comparison. At least all he does is stir things up a bit
>and go on about 'NG owners', which is relatively harmless with no real
>damage done. Puke's infestation of this NG is becoming somewhat
>sinister.
>



It's only a matter of time before the media delves into newsgroups and
forums to bring to the attention of Joe Public the more outrageous
threads and ramblings
Now there's an awful thought ...............
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk
Sacha

2007-10-26, 9:25 am

On 26/10/07 12:43, in article B2CQ94C1LdIHFwV6@ukonline.co.uk, "Janet
Tweedy" <jan@lancedal.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <1193378596.461425.67960@o3g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, Dave
> Poole <daverpoole@hotmail.com> writes
>
>
> It's only a matter of time before the media delves into newsgroups and
> forums to bring to the attention of Joe Public the more outrageous
> threads and ramblings
> Now there's an awful thought ...............


The press does look at newsgroups, believe me.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'


Cat(h)

2007-10-26, 9:25 am

On Oct 25, 5:25 pm, hel...@urbed.coop wrote:

Snip.

Yet more vindictive and tiresome crap from a chronic attention seeker
giving rise to no less than 20 posts so far (21 with mine).
The killfile is our collective friend, folks.

Cat(h)

judith.lea

2007-10-26, 9:25 am

On Oct 25, 7:02 pm, Jennifer Sparkes <jspar...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
> The message <MPG.218ad904c34ce385989...@News.Individual.NET>
> from Charlie Pridham <char...@roselandhouse.co.uk> contains these words:
>
>
> Agree Charlie - but alas not weatherwise here in Bristol.
>
> Grow up Helene ...
>
> Jennifer


Hi Jennifer, the weather here in France is not good today either and I
wanted to get out into the garden

I haven't been commenting on Helene's behaviour and in fact I have
posted very little and content myself reading and trying to learn
something. Hopefully things will now settle down on here and I can
start contributing a little more than I usually do.

My only comment on the matter is that I think Sacha has had a lot of
bashing and, in my opinion, it was totally unfair and unjustified.

Judith

Martin

2007-10-26, 9:25 am

On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 13:06:04 +0100, Sacha <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:

>On 26/10/07 12:43, in article B2CQ94C1LdIHFwV6@ukonline.co.uk, "Janet
>Tweedy" <jan@lancedal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>The press does look at newsgroups, believe me.


The BBC gets some of it's more ridiculous Eastenders plots from satirical
posters to the Eastenders newsgroup, allegedly.
--

Martin

Alan Holmes

2007-10-26, 1:25 pm


"Gary Woods" <garyusenet@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:q1o1i3p9uiqd40fuaio60dn75q6d53nc80@4ax.com...
>
>
> ^^
> do
>
> Fat finger syndrome.


It must be catching!(:-)


Alan Holmes

2007-10-26, 1:25 pm


"Sacha" <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:C34796BC.5D425%sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk...
> On 26/10/07 12:43, in article B2CQ94C1LdIHFwV6@ukonline.co.uk, "Janet
> Tweedy" <jan@lancedal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> The press does look at newsgroups, believe me.


I must read the Maily Dale a little more closely!


Bob Hobden

2007-10-26, 1:25 pm


"Sacha" wrote >>
> The press does look at newsgroups, believe me.
>

Am I the only none that notices things mentioned here that appear in
Gardeners World a couple of weeks later. Could be a co-incidence but it
happens too often IMO. Not that I watch it much these days, bring back
Percy.

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
17mls W. of London.UK


Bob Hobden

2007-10-26, 1:25 pm


"Cat(h)" wrote
> Snip.
>
> Yet more vindictive and tiresome crap from a chronic attention seeker
> giving rise to no less than 20 posts so far (21 with mine).
> The killfile is our collective friend, folks.
>

I used to think that and still use it on occasion for the moronic trolls but
some people need watching.

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
17mls W. of London.UK


Martin

2007-10-26, 1:25 pm

On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:57:17 +0100, "Bob Hobden" <bobh@invalid.com> wrote:

>
>"Cat(h)" wrote
>I used to think that and still use it on occasion for the moronic trolls but
>some people need watching.


There'd be less friction here if the emphasis was on ignoring.
--

Martin

judith.lea

2007-10-26, 1:25 pm

On Oct 26, 5:57 pm, Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:57:17 +0100, "Bob Hobden" <b...@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> There'd be less friction here if the emphasis was on ignoring.
> --
>
> Martin


<Grin> I read that as ironing and thought "what does he mean?" :-))

Judith

Martin

2007-10-26, 1:25 pm

On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:30:30 -0000, "judith.lea" <judith.lea99@googlemail.com>
wrote:

>On Oct 26, 5:57 pm, Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
>
><Grin> I read that as ironing and thought "what does he mean?" :-))


It's all that doing the dirty washing in public. :-)
--

Martin

judith.lea

2007-10-26, 1:25 pm

On Oct 26, 6:35 pm, Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:30:30 -0000, "judith.lea" <judith.le...@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> It's all that doing the dirty washing in public. :-)
> --
>
> Martin- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Aah, yes, I understand :-) email me can you as I have lost your email
addy.

Judith

Sacha

2007-10-26, 8:25 pm

On 26/10/07 17:57, in article 5oekhsFmhv4hU1@mid.individual.net, "Bob
Hobden" <bobh@invalid.com> wrote:

>
> "Cat(h)" wrote
> I used to think that and still use it on occasion for the moronic trolls but
> some people need watching.


Yes. The kill file allows the worst offenders to persist unseen and
unchecked.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'


Janet Tweedy

2007-10-26, 8:25 pm

In article <5oekdpFmefptU1@mid.individual.net>, Bob Hobden
<bobh@invalid.com> writes
>
>"Sacha" wrote >>
>Am I the only none that notices things mentioned here that appear in
>Gardeners World a couple of weeks later. Could be a co-incidence but it
>happens too often IMO. Not that I watch it much these days, bring back
>Percy.
>



I remember mentioning an unusual horse chestnut once and it appeared in
the Telegraph about three weeks later then in GW about 6 months ago! Me
first, me first ......................
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk
Martin

2007-10-27, 9:25 am

On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 00:45:25 +0100, Janet Tweedy <jan@lancedal.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

>In article <5oekdpFmefptU1@mid.individual.net>, Bob Hobden
><bobh@invalid.com> writes
>
>
>I remember mentioning an unusual horse chestnut once and it appeared in
>the Telegraph about three weeks later then in GW about 6 months ago! Me
>first, me first ......................


Is this the time to post photos of unusual shaped carrots?
--

Martin

Martin

2007-10-27, 9:25 am

On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 00:01:10 +0100, Sacha <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:

>On 26/10/07 17:57, in article 5oekhsFmhv4hU1@mid.individual.net, "Bob
>Hobden" <bobh@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>
>Yes. The kill file allows the worst offenders to persist unseen and
>unchecked.


If they are unseen, who cares? :-)
--

Martin

BAC

2007-10-27, 9:25 am


"Sacha" <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:C3483046.5D4C3%sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk...
> On 26/10/07 17:57, in article 5oekhsFmhv4hU1@mid.individual.net, "Bob
> Hobden" <bobh@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>
> Yes. The kill file allows the worst offenders to persist unseen and
> unchecked.


OTOH, non-use of the filter facility and continually 'rising to the bait'
only seems to prolong and instensify exchanges of verbal vitriol.


Gary Woods

2007-10-27, 9:25 am

"BAC" <casswalk@NOSPAMdircon.co.uk> wrote:

>OTOH, non-use of the filter facility and continually 'rising to the bait'
>only seems to prolong and instensify exchanges of verbal vitriol.


I agree: Trolls need to be fed, and if ignored eventually wither and die.
I always think of the "monster" in "Forbidden Planet."

It's raining pretty seriously in the Northeastern U.S., with our first
freeze predicted tomorrow night. I haven't even had a frost yet on my
hilltop.


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G
Alan Holmes

2007-10-27, 9:25 am


"Janet Tweedy" <jan@lancedal.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:KI6yy6RVwnIHFwW$@ukonline.co.uk...
> In article <5oekdpFmefptU1@mid.individual.net>, Bob Hobden
> <bobh@invalid.com> writes
>
>
> I remember mentioning an unusual horse chestnut once and it appeared in
> the Telegraph about three weeks later then in GW about 6 months ago! Me
> first, me first ......................


You are surely not admitting to be a reader of the Telegraph?

Shame on you!


judith.lea

2007-10-27, 9:25 am

On Oct 27, 2:43 pm, Gary Woods <garyuse...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> freeze predicted tomorrow night. I haven't even had a frost yet on my
> hilltop.


I brought in all the tender plants and geraniums and put them in the
barn, it's a lovely day and hot enough to eat outside. The nights are
another matter, frost last night and snow flurries are predicted on
Sancy. not enough to lay, just a light dusting. Are you in New York
State Gary?

Judith

Gary Woods

2007-10-27, 9:25 am

"judith.lea" <judith.lea99@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Are you in New York
>State Gary?


Yes; in the hills about 30 miles west of Albany; perhaps 180 miles west of
Boston (the American one). 1400 feet elevation, so a bit cooler than the
maps would indicate. That's a two-edged sword: my summers are a bit
cooler, but I usually get the first frost somewhat later than the valleys
below.


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G
Charlie Pridham

2007-10-27, 1:25 pm

In article <adi6i3pa9dv9vhbitnv424c5el97phhrp2@4ax.com>,
garyusenet@earthlink.net says...
> "judith.lea" <judith.lea99@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Yes; in the hills about 30 miles west of Albany; perhaps 180 miles west of
> Boston (the American one). 1400 feet elevation, so a bit cooler than the
> maps would indicate. That's a two-edged sword: my summers are a bit
> cooler, but I usually get the first frost somewhat later than the valleys
> below.
>

Is that the Albany-new york of Clematis 'Betty Corning' fame? (Wife of a
mayor there 1920's-1930's)
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea
judith.lea

2007-10-27, 1:25 pm

On Oct 27, 3:24 pm, Gary Woods <garyuse...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> "judith.lea" <judith.le...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> Yes; in the hills about 30 miles west of Albany; perhaps 180 miles west of
> Boston (the American one). 1400 feet elevation, so a bit cooler than the
> maps would indicate. That's a two-edged sword: my summers are a bit
> cooler, but I usually get the first frost somewhat later than the valleys
> below.
>
> Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
> Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G


I know where you are, lovely countryside.

Judith

Gary Woods

2007-10-27, 1:25 pm

Charlie Pridham <charlie@roselandhouse.co.uk> wrote:

>Is that the Albany-new york of Clematis 'Betty Corning' fame?


Indeed yes; Erastus Corning was mayor through, I think, the late 70s. He
was a branch of the family that owned Corning Glass...old money (at least
for us; you folks have much older). The George Landis arboretum across the
valley from me has that Clematis. I keep meaning to snitch a cutting or
two, after making a suitable donation. Does that violate the "cuttings
will succeed only if stolen" rule?


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G
Sacha

2007-10-27, 1:25 pm

On 27/10/07 00:45, in article KI6yy6RVwnIHFwW$@ukonline.co.uk, "Janet
Tweedy" <jan@lancedal.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <5oekdpFmefptU1@mid.individual.net>, Bob Hobden
> <bobh@invalid.com> writes
>
>
> I remember mentioning an unusual horse chestnut once and it appeared in
> the Telegraph about three weeks later then in GW about 6 months ago! Me
> first, me first ......................


Yes! Something I said on another group was quoted in the DT a few years
ago, giving my name. I don't know who wa more surprised - the people who
had been making libellous remarks or me, who had been refuting them!
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'


Sacha

2007-10-27, 1:25 pm

On 27/10/07 09:34, in article tut5i3delsmuaesd79fgajbs9giog4omd0@4ax.com,
"Martin" <me@address.invalid> wrote:

> On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 00:01:10 +0100, Sacha <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>
> If they are unseen, who cares? :-)


Newbies who don't know the difference.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'


Charlie Pridham

2007-10-27, 1:25 pm

In article <87m6i31aaua1r7ch98vugsq5ia25qglpgo@4ax.com>,
garyusenet@earthlink.net says...
> Charlie Pridham <charlie@roselandhouse.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> Indeed yes; Erastus Corning was mayor through, I think, the late 70s. He
> was a branch of the family that owned Corning Glass...old money (at least
> for us; you folks have much older). The George Landis arboretum across the
> valley from me has that Clematis. I keep meaning to snitch a cutting or
> two, after making a suitable donation. Does that violate the "cuttings
> will succeed only if stolen" rule?
>
>
> Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
> Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G
>

Thats more or less how Betty got it! apparently found on a house front in
the mid west and taken all the way to Texas as a cutting in a potato.
Still has the best scent of any summer flowering clematis.
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea
Sacha

2007-10-27, 1:25 pm

On 27/10/07 09:32, in article frt5i39of35ok4b4fme1isljlnltov30b7@4ax.com,
"Martin" <me@address.invalid> wrote:

> On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 00:45:25 +0100, Janet Tweedy <jan@lancedal.demon.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>
> Is this the time to post photos of unusual shaped carrots?


Tsk, Martin! This is a non-binary group. ;-)))

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'


Martin

2007-10-27, 1:25 pm

On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 17:56:18 +0100, Sacha <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:

>On 27/10/07 09:32, in article frt5i39of35ok4b4fme1isljlnltov30b7@4ax.com,
>"Martin" <me@address.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>Tsk, Martin! This is a non-binary group. ;-)))


Just as well :-)
--

Martin

Sacha

2007-10-27, 1:25 pm

On 27/10/07 17:59, in article nir6i3d6ke5ec8vrfn5e0u5k1r72puid2t@4ax.com,
"Martin" <me@address.invalid> wrote:

> On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 17:56:18 +0100, Sacha <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>
> Just as well :-)


I got that book "Play with your Food" about the veggie carving artist. It's
just brilliant!
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'


Martin

2007-10-27, 1:25 pm

On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 18:59:17 +0200, Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:

>On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 17:56:18 +0100, Sacha <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>
>Just as well :-)


http://lovecarrots.wordpress.com/2007/02/
--

Martin

Martin

2007-10-27, 1:25 pm

On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 18:08:46 +0100, Sacha <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:

>On 27/10/07 17:59, in article nir6i3d6ke5ec8vrfn5e0u5k1r72puid2t@4ax.com,
>"Martin" <me@address.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>I got that book "Play with your Food" about the veggie carving artist. It's
>just brilliant!


http://www.kunstgalaxie.de/shop/images/large/ELF92.jpg
--

Martin

Space

2007-10-27, 1:25 pm


"Sacha" <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:C34928F9.5D6B2%sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk...
> On 27/10/07 09:34, in article tut5i3delsmuaesd79fgajbs9giog4omd0@4ax.com,
> "Martin" <me@address.invalid> wrote:
>
> Newbies who don't know the difference.
>


Sacha, that is patronising to newbies. newbies to URG are not necessary
newbies to newsgroups.

I have said this before, if someone asks for advice the onus is on them to
ensure the advice is sound. I.E compare to other advice.

It is NOT your responsibility to hold everyone's hand.

I say kill file or ignore.




Sacha

2007-10-27, 8:25 pm

On 27/10/07 18:17, in article ltydnc-vt8Ff777aRVnygQA@bt.com, "Space"
<space@bt.internet.com> wrote:

>
> "Sacha" <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:C34928F9.5D6B2%sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk...
>
> Sacha, that is patronising to newbies. newbies to URG are not necessary
> newbies to newsgroups.
>
> I have said this before, if someone asks for advice the onus is on them to
> ensure the advice is sound. I.E compare to other advice.
>
> It is NOT your responsibility to hold everyone's hand.
>
> I say kill file or ignore.
>

And you are...........?


--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'


?

2007-10-27, 8:25 pm

On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 00:33:25 +0100, Sacha
<sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

>On 27/10/07 18:17, in article ltydnc-vt8Ff777aRVnygQA@bt.com, "Space"
><space@bt.internet.com> wrote:
>
>And you are...........?


And who, exactly, do you think YOU are?

Space

2007-10-28, 3:25 am


"Sacha" <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:C3498955.5D70F%sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk...
> On 27/10/07 18:17, in article ltydnc-vt8Ff777aRVnygQA@bt.com, "Space"
> <space@bt.internet.com> wrote:
>
> And you are...........?
>


what was the point of that question?

Janet Tweedy

2007-10-28, 9:25 am

In article <HiHUi.4499$%j2.2876@newsfe2-win.ntli.net>, Alan Holmes
<alan_holmes@nowhere.com> writes

>
>You are surely not admitting to be a reader of the Telegraph?
>
>Shame on you!
>
>

Well I like their gardening section. A friend gets Saturday's mail and
they hide their column by Chris Beardshaw in the depths of holiday
advertisements and those for woolly slippers and/or lose weight in three
seconds stuff. They give him a measly few columns and that's all there
is!
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk
Janet Tweedy

2007-10-28, 9:25 am

In article <MPG.218d7bdd81dfb1b39896b7@News.Individual.NET>, Charlie
Pridham <charlie@roselandhouse.co.uk> writes

>Thats more or less how Betty got it! apparently found on a house front in
>the mid west and taken all the way to Texas as a cutting in a potato.
>Still has the best scent of any summer flowering clematis.



It is a lovely little plant and has done really well up my pergola this
year, flowering for ages. Not too showy but a steady display of flowers.
I just regret that, at a distance, the flowers are difficult to make out
amongst the leaves.
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk
BAC

2007-10-28, 9:25 am


"Gary Woods" <garyusenet@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:mvf6i35becdlkttm992k9kiksf9sdt45rh@4ax.com...
> "BAC" <casswalk@NOSPAMdircon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> I agree: Trolls need to be fed, and if ignored eventually wither and die.
> I always think of the "monster" in "Forbidden Planet."
>
> It's raining pretty seriously in the Northeastern U.S., with our first
> freeze predicted tomorrow night. I haven't even had a frost yet on my
> hilltop.
>


I hope you have a good winter. I'm thinking of starting one of those 'we're
bound to have a bad winter because the trees are groaning with berries'
threads :-)


Martin

2007-10-28, 9:25 am

On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 11:07:50 +0000, Janet Tweedy <jan@lancedal.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

>In article <HiHUi.4499$%j2.2876@newsfe2-win.ntli.net>, Alan Holmes
><alan_holmes@nowhere.com> writes
>
> Well I like their gardening section. A friend gets Saturday's mail and
>they hide their column by Chris Beardshaw in the depths of holiday
>advertisements and those for woolly slippers and/or lose weight in three
>seconds stuff. They give him a measly few columns and that's all there
>is!


I read Paddy Burt's article every week and have for years.
--

Martin

Martin

2007-10-28, 9:25 am

On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 11:46:03 -0000, "BAC" <casswalk@NOSPAMdircon.co.uk> wrote:

>
>"Gary Woods" <garyusenet@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:mvf6i35becdlkttm992k9kiksf9sdt45rh@4ax.com...
>
>I hope you have a good winter. I'm thinking of starting one of those 'we're
>bound to have a bad winter because the trees are groaning with berries'
>threads :-)
>


We had the first hard frost in Holland in October since 2003 this week.
--

Martin

Alan Holmes

2007-10-28, 9:25 am


<?> wrote in message news:poi7i3heelvpp1gii4q72b7nnrj0qlqr5p@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 00:33:25 +0100, Sacha
> <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> And who, exactly, do you think YOU are?


She is someone who posts under her real name, not some sad person like you!

>



Alan Holmes

2007-10-28, 9:25 am


"Janet Tweedy" <jan@lancedal.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:gdfonLDG2GJHFwLv@ukonline.co.uk...
> In article <HiHUi.4499$%j2.2876@newsfe2-win.ntli.net>, Alan Holmes
> <alan_holmes@nowhere.com> writes
>
> Well I like their gardening section. A friend gets Saturday's mail and
> they hide their column by Chris Beardshaw in the depths of holiday
> advertisements and those for woolly slippers and/or lose weight in three
> seconds stuff. They give him a measly few columns and that's all there is!


That must be one of the pages I don't get to read as they are buried so
deeply in other uninteresting stuff!


Sacha

2007-10-28, 9:25 am

On 28/10/07 12:46, in article cw%Ui.101639$yN2.46026@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net,
"Alan Holmes" <alan_holmes@nowhere.com> wrote:

>
> <?> wrote in message news:poi7i3heelvpp1gii4q72b7nnrj0qlqr5p@4ax.com...
>
> She is someone who posts under her real name, not some sad person like you!
>

Don't worry about it, Alan. It's just some shape-shifter trying to make
trouble.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'


helene@urbed.coop

2007-10-28, 9:25 am

On Oct 28, 1:01 pm, Sacha <sa...@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> Don't worry about it, Alan. It's just some shape-shifter trying to make
> trouble.


Space has posted here for years and is not a shape shifter but a
dedicated gardener. Stop telling lies just because you want to control
this forum. Learn to read people's post and take to email anything
which is not relevant to gardening.


Space

2007-10-28, 9:25 am


<helene@urbed.coop> wrote in message
news:1193577991.933986.262580@v3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 28, 1:01 pm, Sacha <sa...@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Space has posted here for years and is not a shape shifter but a
> dedicated gardener. Stop telling lies just because you want to control
> this forum. Learn to read people's post and take to email anything
> which is not relevant to gardening.
>


Helene - I don't think they were talking about me. this was a response to
somebody else.
sacha - hopefully my thoughts are correct on this?

although I think you, Helene, may have me confused with someone else. A
dedicated gardener? Oh too funny!! I wish!


all I asked about was a non-invasive ivy and look what happened.

Fuschia@summerborder.net

2007-10-28, 9:25 am

On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:41:24 -0000, "Space" <space@bt.internet.com>
wrote:

>
><helene@urbed.coop> wrote in message
>news:1193577991.933986.262580@v3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
>Helene - I don't think they were talking about me. this was a response to
>somebody else.
>sacha - hopefully my thoughts are correct on this?
>
>although I think you, Helene, may have me confused with someone else. A
>dedicated gardener? Oh too funny!! I wish!
>
>
>all I asked about was a non-invasive ivy and look what happened.



Helene - this doesn't do you any good. Please stop it.
Space

2007-10-28, 9:25 am


<Fuschia@summerborder.net> wrote in message
news:p959i35jnqt62i71q8bskiur315ivlnusc@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:41:24 -0000, "Space" <space@bt.internet.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Helene - this doesn't do you any good. Please stop it.


why did you post this below my reply to Helene. This is enough stirring
going on at the moment. the way the above reads it would appear you are
inferring that Space & Helene are one and the same.

Helene was correct - I am Space and not a sock puppet or whatever phrase is
applicable to what is going on in URG.

back on topic - I have decided against an ivy.


Fuschia@summerborder.net

2007-10-28, 1:25 pm

On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:09:02 -0000, "Space" <space@bt.internet.com>
wrote:

>
>why did you post this below my reply to Helene. This is enough stirring
>going on at the moment. the way the above reads it would appear you are
>inferring that Space & Helene are one and the same.
>


Space, I am VERY sorry. That is not at all what I meant. I was just
asking Helene not to keep sniping at Sacha. This illustrates
perfectly why these squabbles should be kept out of the newsgroup.

ASBO

2007-10-28, 1:25 pm


<helene@urbed.coop> wrote in message
news:1193577991.933986.262580@v3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 28, 1:01 pm, Sacha <sa...@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Space has posted here for years and is not a shape shifter but a
> dedicated gardener. Stop telling lies just because you want to control
> this forum. Learn to read people's post and take to email anything
> which is not relevant to gardening.
>
>


oops the troll is back - early spring this year


Me

2007-10-28, 1:25 pm

On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 15:00:32 GMT, "ASBO" <retireddigger@nospam.co.ru>
wrote:

>
><helene@urbed.coop> wrote in message
>news:1193577991.933986.262580@v3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
>oops the troll is back - early spring this year


Whose sockpuppet is this?

I think I know...
Sacha

2007-10-28, 1:25 pm

On 28/10/07 13:26, in article
1193577991.933986.262580@v3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com, "helene@urbed.coop"
<helene@urbed.coop> wrote:

> On Oct 28, 1:01 pm, Sacha <sa...@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Space has posted here for years and is not a shape shifter but a
> dedicated gardener. Stop telling lies just because you want to control
> this forum. Learn to read people's post and take to email anything
> which is not relevant to gardening.
>
>

It's been a short winter, Helene. Do at least *try* to keep your promise to
leave this group in peace until spring.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'


Sacha

2007-10-28, 1:25 pm

On 28/10/07 13:41, in article zbmdnaoUe5g0DLnanZ2dnUVZ8qydnZ2d@bt.com,
"Space" <space@bt.internet.com> wrote:

>
> <helene@urbed.coop> wrote in message
> news:1193577991.933986.262580@v3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
> Helene - I don't think they were talking about me. this was a response to
> somebody else.
> sacha - hopefully my thoughts are correct on this?
>
> although I think you, Helene, may have me confused with someone else. A
> dedicated gardener? Oh too funny!! I wish!
>
>
> all I asked about was a non-invasive ivy and look what happened.
>

Don't worry, this has nothing to do with you and everything to do with
Helene throwing one of her notorious tantrums.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'


Sacha

2007-10-28, 1:25 pm

On 28/10/07 14:09, in article fPmdnTxMhd--BbnanZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com,
"Space" <space@bt.internet.com> wrote:

<snip>
>
> back on topic - I have decided against an ivy.
>
>

Oh dear, I'm sorry but this did make me laugh!! ;-)) What would you like
instead? ;-)

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'


Space

2007-10-28, 1:25 pm


"Sacha" <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:C34A6896.5D9C8%sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk...
> On 28/10/07 14:09, in article fPmdnTxMhd--BbnanZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com,
> "Space" <space@bt.internet.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
> Oh dear, I'm sorry but this did make me laugh!! ;-)) What would you like
> instead? ;-)
>


I think an ivy would cause too much emotional distress. it would remind
heavily of the time in URG when there was nearly a truce...... but history
repeated itself and war broke out instead.

I'm going with your suggestion - Holboellia coriacea.

Sacha

2007-10-28, 1:25 pm

On 28/10/07 16:28, in article u5CdnTIXsY9LJbnaRVnyjAA@bt.com, "Space"
<space@bt.internet.com> wrote:

>
> "Sacha" <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:C34A6896.5D9C8%sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk...
>
> I think an ivy would cause too much emotional distress. it would remind
> heavily of the time in URG when there was nearly a truce...... but history
> repeated itself and war broke out instead.
>
> I'm going with your suggestion - Holboellia coriacea.
>


I hope you can find it easily enough? And that you like it, of course!
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'


helene@urbed.coop

2007-10-28, 5:25 pm


Sacha wrote:
> Don't worry, this has nothing to do with you and everything to do with
> Helene throwing one of her notorious tantrums.


Liar. When you saw Space giving me time and space you attacked her
asking her 'who are you'. Now you're saying it was a mistake?

You accuse me of morphing when you know who I am. You push my buttons
continually. I don't hide, I use my name, my business name, and I
don't worry about what I say because it is what I think. I have
nothing to hide. You snipe at me all the bloody time. I've tried to
phone you for a truce but you didn't want to know. Instead you've lied
saying that I was manical. You're wicked and a liar, and senile at
that. Learn to read the post before accusing people of morphing.

And I'm not surprised you cannot do sodoku. 8 years old can do
sodoku !!

Sacha

2007-10-28, 5:25 pm

On 28/10/07 19:14, in article
1193598888.525359.10570@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com, "helene@urbed.coop"
<helene@urbed.coop> wrote:

>
> Sacha wrote:
>
> Liar. When you saw Space giving me time and space you attacked her
> asking her 'who are you'. Now you're saying it was a mistake?
>
> You accuse me of morphing when you know who I am. You push my buttons
> continually. I don't hide, I use my name, my business name, and I
> don't worry about what I say because it is what I think. I have
> nothing to hide. You snipe at me all the bloody time. I've tried to
> phone you for a truce but you didn't want to know. Instead you've lied
> saying that I was manical. You're wicked and a liar, and senile at
> that. Learn to read the post before accusing people of morphing.
>
> And I'm not surprised you cannot do sodoku. 8 years old can do
> sodoku !!
>


Be quiet you tiresome fool. You've seen the disgust and contempt in which
you are held here. You said you were leaving until spring. For God's sake
GO!

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'


Cath

2007-10-28, 5:25 pm

helene@urbed.coop wrote:

>
> Sacha wrote:
>
> Liar. When you saw Space giving me time and space you attacked her
> asking her 'who are you'. Now you're saying it was a mistake?
>
> You accuse me of morphing when you know who I am. You push my buttons
> continually. I don't hide, I use my name, my business name, and I
> don't worry about what I say because it is what I think. I have
> nothing to hide. You snipe at me all the bloody time. I've tried to
> phone you for a truce but you didn't want to know. Instead you've lied
> saying that I was manical. You're wicked and a liar, and senile at
> that. Learn to read the post before accusing people of morphing.


If I were you I'd:

1. Report her to her news service provider News.Individual.NET
abuse@individual.net

2. Sue her for libel

Ageless

2007-10-28, 5:25 pm


<helene@urbed.coop> wrote in message
news:1193598888.525359.10570@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>
> Sacha wrote:
>
> Liar. When you saw Space giving me time and space you attacked her
> asking her 'who are you'. Now you're saying it was a mistake?
>
> You a