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| Dave Hill 2007-04-27, 9:25 am |
| On 26 Apr, 22:32, Sacha <s...@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> Today, I heard a piece of Devon gardening folklore that was new to both me
> and Ray. "Don't put out your bedding until after the first full moon in
> May". Anyone know whether this can be backed up by experience?
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I have found that first and last frosts almost always happen 3 days
either side of full moon when you have a clear sky, you can get a
radiation frost.
When I lived in Hastings in the late 50's and the early 60's, we
reconed first frost could be last full moon in Sept. and the last
could be as late as the first full moon in June, but things have
warmed up a little since those days.
Here in South Wales I am finding Last full moon in Oct and first full
moon in May.
This is why we used to sow runner beans at the beginning of May and
once they were through we would inter sow another batch of seed so
that if the first ones got frosted there was a back up set already
starting.
David Hill
Abacus Nurseries.
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"Sacha" <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Today, I heard a piece of Devon gardening folklore that was new to both me
> and Ray. "Don't put out your bedding until after the first full moon in
> May". Anyone know whether this can be backed up by experience?
The moon doesn't affect the weather.
I prefer this saying:
The moon and the weather may change together,
But a change in the moon does not change the weather.
Col
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| On 28/4/07 09:41, in article 59gfloF2jis5kU1@mid.individual.net, "Col"
<reddwarfer2@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> The moon and the weather may change together,
> But a change in the moon does not change the weather
Yes, it's good. But I don't believe it. ;-) We see too many weather
changes with moon changes. And do you think the equinoxes affect the
weather?
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| Muddymike 2007-04-28, 5:25 pm |
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> On 28/4/07 09:41, in article 59gfloF2jis5kU1@mid.individual.net, "Col"
> <reddwarfer2@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
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I have nothing to contribute on the moon v planting out theme but just had
to say I love your new sig Sacha.
Mike
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| On 28/4/07 21:12, in article _tmdnc9lHucjN67bRVnyiwA@brightview.com,
"Muddymike" <MikeRogers@mattishall.org.uk> wrote:
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> "Sacha" <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> I have nothing to contribute on the moon v planting out theme but just had
> to say I love your new sig Sacha.
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> Mike
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Thank you, Mike. ;-)
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| 'Mike' 2007-04-28, 5:25 pm |
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> On 28/4/07 21:12, in article _tmdnc9lHucjN67bRVnyiwA@brightview.com,
> "Muddymike" <MikeRogers@mattishall.org.uk> wrote:
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> Thank you, Mike. ;-)
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"Sacha" <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On 28/4/07 09:41, in article 59gfloF2jis5kU1@mid.individual.net, "Col"
> <reddwarfer2@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
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> Yes, it's good. But I don't believe it. ;-) We see too many weather
> changes with moon changes. And do you think the equinoxes affect the
> weather?
>
The British weather changes frequently, as does the moon.
It's not surprising that they are seen to change together, especially
if you are looking for it. But you probably won't notice it if the
weather changes if the moon hasn't. It's just coincidence.
As for the equinoxes, well that's just anpurely astronomical
phenomenon as the sun appears to move from the Northern
to Southern hemisphere, or vice versa. Such a transition cannot
possibly affect the weather.
Col
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| On 29/4/07 07:29, in article 59isabF2ktof9U1@mid.individual.net, "Col"
<reddwarfer2@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
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> "Sacha" <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:C2595DFD.4AC32%sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk...
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> The British weather changes frequently, as does the moon.
> It's not surprising that they are seen to change together, especially
> if you are looking for it. But you probably won't notice it if the
> weather changes if the moon hasn't. It's just coincidence.
>
> As for the equinoxes, well that's just anpurely astronomical
> phenomenon as the sun appears to move from the Northern
> to Southern hemisphere, or vice versa. Such a transition cannot
> possibly affect the weather.
>
And yet people who sail will often notice a change in the weather during the
equinox - equinoctial gales are infamous. I don't have any explanation for
it, I've simply observed it many times. It's a bit like labour ward staff
who remark that there's a sudden influx of women in labour around the time
of the full moon - but that's a form of propagation that's OT for urg! ;-)
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| Stewart Robert Hinsley 2007-04-29, 3:25 am |
| In message <C25A06E9.4AC7F%sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk>, Sacha
<sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> writes
>On 29/4/07 07:29, in article 59isabF2ktof9U1@mid.individual.net, "Col"
><reddwarfer2@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
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>And yet people who sail will often notice a change in the weather during the
>equinox - equinoctial gales are infamous. I don't have any explanation for
>it, I've simply observed it many times. It's a bit like labour ward staff
>who remark that there's a sudden influx of women in labour around the time
>of the full moon - but that's a form of propagation that's OT for urg! ;-)
>
Weather conditions vary seasonally, and the equinoxes are fixed with
respect to the seasons, so it's not surprising that certain weather
conditions are correlated with the equinoxes. (I think Col had his
tongue in his cheek.)
The phases of the moon are not tied to the seasons, and there's no
obvious mechanism for it to effect the weather. However, somewhat to my
surprise, I find that there are papers reporting a correlation between
rainfall and phase of the moon in the US (with different phase
relationships in different regions).
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| On 29/4/07 08:53, in article yn7bBfKu7ENGFwvD@meden.invalid, "Stewart Robert
Hinsley" <{$news$}@meden.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <C25A06E9.4AC7F%sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk>, Sacha
> <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> writes
<snip>[color=darkred]
> Weather conditions vary seasonally, and the equinoxes are fixed with
> respect to the seasons, so it's not surprising that certain weather
> conditions are correlated with the equinoxes. (I think Col had his
> tongue in his cheek.)
>
> The phases of the moon are not tied to the seasons, and there's no
> obvious mechanism for it to effect the weather. However, somewhat to my
> surprise, I find that there are papers reporting a correlation between
> rainfall and phase of the moon in the US (with different phase
> relationships in different regions).
See? There are things we know not of. ;-) Some time ago, I was at lunch
with some friends and my fellow guests were a retired Admiral and his wife.
He's also a keen sailor of somewhat smaller boats! Having had a really
awful sail from Turkey to Cyprus when my skipper "got the date wrong" at the
equinox (!) I thought that here I had my expert witness. I asked him if
he'd ever observed this equinox effect and he said "Often but I have no idea
how or why it happens". Which was kind of reassuring and disappointing at
the same time. So perhaps we have to put it down as something inexplicable
- just one of those things that we know happens but nobody can explain.
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| 'Mike' 2007-04-29, 9:25 am |
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"Sacha" <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On 29/4/07 08:53, in article yn7bBfKu7ENGFwvD@meden.invalid, "Stewart
> Robert
> Hinsley" <{$news$}@meden.demon.co.uk> wrote:
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> <snip>
> See? There are things we know not of. ;-) Some time ago, I was at lunch
> with some friends and my fellow guests were a retired Admiral and his
> wife.
> He's also a keen sailor of somewhat smaller boats! Having had a really
> awful sail from Turkey to Cyprus when my skipper "got the date wrong" at
> the
> equinox (!) I thought that here I had my expert witness. I asked him if
> he'd ever observed this equinox effect and he said "Often but I have no
> idea
> how or why it happens". Which was kind of reassuring and disappointing at
> the same time. So perhaps we have to put it down as something
> inexplicable
> - just one of those things that we know happens but nobody can explain.
>
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> Sacha
> South Devon
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That is http://www.gardenbanter.co.uk which Hubbard is advertising. Well
worth a look and full of lots of interesting information from lots of
sights.
Go and take a peek over the fence.
Mike
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| ®óñ© © ²°¹°-°³ 2007-04-29, 1:25 pm |
| On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:17:21 +0100, "'Mike'" <3d&6d@woolies.com> wrote
and included this (or some of this):
>That is http://www.gardenbanter.co.uk which Hubbard is advertising. Well
>worth a look and full of lots of interesting information from lots of
>sights.
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>Go and take a peek over the fence.
Looks OK to me.
If anybody here says anything interesting why shouldn't they reference
it on banter?
You cannot post on an open forum and claim copyright, especially if
you are properly quoted and cited. You even have to make a strenuous
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"Sacha" <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On 29/4/07 07:29, in article 59isabF2ktof9U1@mid.individual.net, "Col"
> And yet people who sail will often notice a change in the weather during
> the
> equinox - equinoctial gales are infamous. I don't have any explanation
> for
> it, I've simply observed it many times. It's a bit like labour ward staff
> who remark that there's a sudden influx of women in labour around the time
> of the full moon - but that's a form of propagation that's OT for urg! ;-)
There is likely to be a generral change in the couple of weeks
around the autumn equinox to cooler and more unsetled conditions.
However that's just because autumn is coming on.
Nothing special happens specifically on the day of the equinox just
because the sun happens to have moved south of the equator.
Col
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"Stewart Robert Hinsley" <{$news$}@meden.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Weather conditions vary seasonally, and the equinoxes are fixed with
> respect to the seasons, so it's not surprising that certain weather
> conditions are correlated with the equinoxes. (I think Col had his tongue
> in his cheek.)
Not at all.
There is a general change just because the seasons are changing
but nothing happens at that particular moment.
Col
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